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According To The 9th Circuit Court Of Appeals, God Is "Patriotic" And No Longer "Religious" | Crooks and Liars

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Why do we have judges in office that don't know the history of the pledge in the first place?
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43 comments // According To The 9th Circuit Court Of Appeals, God Is "Patriotic" And No Longer "Religious" | Crooks and Liars

  • dariusvons
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      dariusvons  
    • good thing these judges will be there for EVER! like stom thurmon... these nutbags will be in office for decades... ruining education and scocial standards for another few generations. assholes belong in guantanimo.

    • 1 year ago
  • Varex_Sythe
  • royulery
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      royulery  
    • this scares me. my ancestors have suffered greatly under the white man's god. the right to take america from it's people came from that god and we don't know how we pissed him off. i wished that the gods of old america were stronger or that my people were better fighters.

      i pledge allegiance to the flag and my beloved america but the current office holders are lawers for pete's sake. when the government invokes god, somebody's gonna get hurt.

    • 1 year ago
  • tylervictoria1
  • dariusvons
  • tylervictoria1
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      tylervictoria1  
    • i don't know about anywhere else, but in my school you have the option not to say the pledge if it offends you. i live in south carolina, so if we have that option then everyother state's had for about fifty years now.

    • 1 year ago
  • CaptB
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      CaptB  
    • Religion combined with government scare me more than Cheney on caffeine. I do not want to move towards Iran, Saudi, or a Taliban like government. Religion should be separate.

      Or, if we do allow it, should we allow Baptist, Mormon, Catholic, Jewish, Native Indian, Sikh, Church of Christ (4 different sects), or Wiccans to represent what we find holy? I guess it depends on what your religion beliefs are.

    • 1 year ago
  • bailey78
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      bailey78  
    • I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all !!!!!!!!!! I love My country. I fear my Goverment.

    • 1 year ago
  • bking74
  • Vierotchka
  • ibrake4rappers13
  • Vierotchka
  • ibrake4rappers13
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      ibrake4rappers13  
    • Vierotchka:

      Well while Jesus was on earth (according to the bible) he made direct claims to being God.

      Jews dont accept this claim, therefore you cant make the claim that Jews and Christians worship the same God

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • ibrake4rappers13:

      Actually, nowhere in the Bible does Jesus make such a claim, and yes, "Allah" (which is the Arabic word for God and also used as such by Arab Christians) is the God of Abraham, and therefore the same God whom the Jews and the Christians worship. But you knew that.

    • 1 year ago
  • desertcat
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      desertcat  
    • bailey78:

      with liberty and justice for all. does that apply to those men being held at Gitmo, to the gay community. What about the foreigners who serve in our military, fight in our wars then denied citizenship? This really isn't a question for you, as you probably feel the same way I do, more for the Supreme Court.

    • 1 year ago
  • CalgarC
  • CalgarC
  • ibrake4rappers13
  • Vierotchka
  • bailey78
  • bailey78
  • bailey78
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      bailey78  
    • desertcat:

      Well Desertcat Let me put it this way.I believe that the people that are Gitmo are victims of an unjust war. They are now Fucked no matter what. The Gay community can do whatever they want Just don't hit on me I like women . Now where was I Oh yea if you serve in the U.S. military then you should be given citizenship after you get out with an Honerable disscharge. I was taught Respect by my parents as I grew up. I do my best to treat others with the same respect that I my self ask for. If you don't stand for something then you will fall for anything. Does this help you any? if not I will try again only with big words.

    • 1 year ago
  • desertcat
  • handbanana89
  • bailey78
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      bailey78  
    • desertcat:

      Yea man I have five cats and two pit-bulls they play well togeather but We (The Wife an I) like to take the dogs to diffrent Parks In other towns. Saves on Doggy Doo Detail in the Yard.

    • 1 year ago
  • desertcat
  • bailey78
  • ibrake4rappers13
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      ibrake4rappers13  
    • Vierotchka:

      "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

      The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."

      Book of John

      Notice how it says "the word was God" and then it says "the word became flesh"

      Thats Jesus.

      I have many more verses i could show you.

    • 1 year ago
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • The founding fathers were atheists. It's a fact that many like to pretend isn't true, so finding proof of it is turning into a mission, because I really don't feel like doing anything other than copying and pasting, but look up the "Quotable Atheist" for starters. Some of the quotes from the founding fathers leave little doubt as to what they thought about religion. One of the main reason why they left Brittan.
      "The United States Constitution was written and ratified by elected officials representing a coalition of Enlightenment rationalists and evangelical Christians who were deeply concerned about entanglements between religion and government." This is a total load of crap, early settlers and Americans were puritans, which is one of the roots of evangelicalism, along with pietism, and methodism, but "the root of" is not the same as "is".
      Rulings like this leave me with the distinct feeling that someone wants to watch me burn to death in this world because they're not secure enough in their belief that I'll get what I deserve in the next.

    • 1 year ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Almibry:

      The Founding Fathers were mainly Deists, not atheists. George Washington also was sworn in on a Bible (reportedly a Masonic Bible since it was known he was a Mason) and is said to have inserted 'so help me God' at the end of the oath he took as president (though there is also debate regarding this.)

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
  • CaptB
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  
    • The Court is arguing that the term "God" is meaningless to the state as far as having any religious significance goes?

      Isn't the court ruling insulting if you are a religious person and believe God has religious significance?

    • 1 year ago
  • EthicalVegan
  • bking74
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      bking74  
    • This is such a waste of time and resources of the Legal system. I am so sick and tired of the chaos and hatred that religion causes. I am as Patriotic as they come, I have dedicated my life to serving this country. I am also Irish Catholic and believe in the Holy Trinity which is a complete paradox because of the violence I have been a part of. This whole debate is a waste of time. Lets focus on more important issues.

    • 1 year ago
  • kitteneater
  • occhipij
  • kennymotown
  • occhipij
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  
    • occhipij:

      What does the article say about the insertion of under god in what year? I think it was 1952 or 1953. A very long time since the country was founded. In fact I believe the RED scare was going on at that time and it was a common knowledge that the commies were atheist. But keep being afraid and lean on your GOD idol!

    • 1 year ago
  • Almibry
  • pjacobs51
  • kennymotown
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