Lesbian Sergeant Outed by Police and Discharged Under DADT

gay people are part of army tradition regardless of what you want to ignore

speaking of ignoring;

gay people have been, and always will be a part of the military. it's inevitable. that tradition has and always will include gays and lesbians

Sometimes sarcasm should be a tad more obvious. You run the risk of sounding like a total ignorant idiot. (and this is me assuming since you brought puppies into it that you are being sarcastic)

This is something completely different. They had no leeway here for that "good soldier" stuff. Once they're told someone is homosexual they have to dismiss them, simple as that. These homophobe policemen basically deliberately got her fired because of their own pettiness, that's all there is to this story.

Well, I hate the idea of DADT, but what you say here isn't completely unreasonable.
If a soldier can be gay and survive the military, as you say, then there really shouldn't be a problem.

At the same time, I think the gay rights struggle gets a little slap in the face every time something like this happens. It's really not all about practicality like you outlined above, it's about the principle of equality under the eyes of the law.

Assuming she really was causing trouble, maybe you're right, she shouldn't have joined the club. Doesn't mean she was wrong to make trouble though.

"There are 1000s of soldiers who were ..... in possession of drugs or contraband, AWOL, or any number of military violations, but because they were good soldiers"

"My father told me a story about a Puerto Rican under his command that was busted with Drugs, weapons, and the dumb SOB came in a day late on a pass. My father was asked by the command one question, "Is he a good soldier?" My father said, "Yes, sir.""

how the hell does any of that equal a good soldier? seriously? people like that are the reasons people die. those people are the real blue falcons. if those people don't give a fuck enough to make the decision to do simple shit like get high or have some dumb worthless contraband over their job; they are in no way "good soldiers". people like that, and the morons who allow it to go on should be kicked out.

worthless wastes of the government money

and people who "are living in the closet" and "doing there job no questions asked" are getting kicked out?

i'm ranting more about the immense amount of bad soldiers that go unchecked. i've dealt with a lot of idiots who are all around scumbags who still get promoted when they deserve the boot. there is too much favoritism, much more than in the private sector.

You don't have influence over anything, you're a nobody. Loser.

"I am the only one who could actually have influence in this matter. "

how so?

"It is people like me that you have to convince"

that is why i'm responding. i'm not just saying i'm right and you're wrong, i'm just stating my opinion and perspective on the issue. i respond to you because you're comments have been civil and not ignorant.

plus, my comments aren't very emotional at all (except for the part about blue falcons cause i hate fuckups in the military). i only got emotional because i am way more passionate about keeping the army squared away and bad soldiers are pretty much scum of the earth to me.

Wow, you own a rifle, you must feel so special. I am sure now you are the only person on Current who owns a gun. Congradulations, Special little guy!!

Listen goofball, anyone can say after the fact that a statement is just a metaphor. To do so is the lowest form of reasoning.

never thought about that, very interesting perspective.

when you are discharged you don't go to a congressional board, you go to a military board

the military isn't doing anything to end the policy and they should

when you go to a military board to get discharged, those there are forced to discharge you by FEDERAL LAW set by the National Defense Authorization Act passed by CONGRESS.

just sayin...Congress created the monster, Congress needs to kill it.

agreed. yet sadly i've lost hope in waiting for congress do fix anything. plus, i'm against outside forces having "too" much influence on the military. i think the military can (and should) push to remove this policy on it's own.

they were gonna review it but they postponed that for some reason i dont remember why though..

a "one year study" is a bit different then removing the law all together

it's a small step but it was started by the military, not obama

http://www.slate.com/id/2243421/

"Instead, the military is taking its time. First, Gates is appointing a study group to figure out how best to implement the repeal if it's passed. That means examining potential changes in Pentagon policies on benefits (say, if two men are married), base housing (can they live together?), fraternization (can they, er, hang out?), and misconduct. The study will also examine questions of whether or not gays in the military hurt "unit cohesion"—a phrase that became a rallying cry for DADT supporters when it was passed in 1993. That could take as long as a year. The military would then have another year actually to put the policy in place."

the video where gates spoke to congress shows it, but it's late, gotta sleep

"in a way is does have some over sight from the executive branch seeing as the head of the DOD is Robert gates who was appoint by the president."

so what? that makes it all obama's plan? bush and bush senior hired him so did they play a part in it too? lol