Community | March 16, 2010 | 17 comments

IRS Suicide Pilot Is Not a “Terrorist,” But Environmental Activists Are?

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A man intentionally flew his airplane into an IRS office in Austin as a part of suicide attack yesterday, and left behind a manifesto outlining his anti-government grievances, but politicians and the press are somehow unsure about whether it should be labeled terrorism. Meanwhile, a bill was introduced in Washington State this session labeling civil disobedience and First Amendment activity as “eco-terrorism.”
It’s not an isolated instance. Across the country, at the state and federal level, both pre-9/11 and post-9/11, corporations and the politicians who represent them have campaigned to label animal rights and environmental activists as the “number one domestic terrorism threat.” Even the most radical underground groups like the Animal Liberation Front and Earth Liberation Front have never harmed a human being.

Yet those who have murdered abortion providers and flown planes into building escape the label.

Let’s take a closer look at the systemic disparities.
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17 comments // IRS Suicide Pilot Is Not a “Terrorist,” But Environmental Activists Are?

  • corndog67
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  
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    • http://www.vanityfair.com/images/culture/2008/11/cusl12_25best0811.jpg

      These were the important parts:
      "(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
      (B) appear to be intended—
      (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population"

      Since it doesn't matter what other motives are be it protesting the IRS, cruelty to animals, liberating oppressed populations, because endangering the human life of others is never justified that is the fallacy of the "ends justify the means"

      If the people feel the need to protest something that strongly that they would give their own lives for it then, do like the monks in Saigon did and set themselves on fire to make a statement.

      But involving others like flying a plane into a building or blowing up an animal testing lab is not the method to use that is the definition of a terrorist.

    • 1 year ago
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  • imadvanced
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      imadvanced  
    • The legal definition of terrorism is in part defined by the motive of the actor. If a pilot crashes into a building on accident or to kill a specific person its not terrorism. If your motive for crashing into a building is to protest (i.e. influence) IRS policies or intimidate a civilian population, then it is terrorism. Domestic terrorism is defined in Chapter 18 of the United States Code in section 2331.

      "(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
      (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
      (B) appear to be intended—
      (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
      (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
      (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
      (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States

      http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00002331----000-.html

      Because Joe Stack was protesting IRS policies, it was an act of terrorism. In a way, that makes sense. Accidents won't make people feel "terror" in the same way that an intentional attack against our government or civilian population would.

      {edited for grammar}

    • 1 year ago
  • 02
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    • imadvanced:

      Yes, but -
      The target group was IRS - not the general public. The purpose of terrorism, as produced by our friendly middle-eastern types is to do war-like crimes, specifically to impact the general public - so as to move the public will to change or influence government policies.

      The public, in the IRS case, are all sympathetic. Negative reactions were entirely about a potentially death producing and coarse action, not about an otherwise overt action against the IRS.

      I do not believe the public felt it was the "terrorism" that, as a term, has been applied and used in the modern colloquial sense.

      So, it is an disingenuous twist in order to abuse power by one group against activists.

    • 1 year ago
  • imadvanced
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      imadvanced  
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      I agree completely that the legal definition of terrorism is overbroad and covers much more ground than the commonly held perception of what terrorism actually (not legally) is. I also agree completely that the definition of terrorism is very dangerous because it gives the government a way to (as you say) abuse activists. To me, this is especially dangerous because if Joe Stack was a member of political groups that as a whole don't endorse his actions or even believe they were right or justified, the members of the group can be labeled as belonging to a "terrorist organization" or even charged with the even more frighteningly overbroad "material support of terrorism" crime.

      However, if you go by the words of the statute (which only requires one of the three items under (B) to be met), it is clearly terrorism.

      The government, of course (in theory), is bound by the laws of the US. I almost think the Obama administration's refusal to admit that this was a terrorist act is related to the fact that he doesn't want to admit there was a terrorist attack on US soil during his tenure in office.

    • 1 year ago
  • CaptSutter
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      CaptSutter  
    • imadvanced:

      Like I said earlier calling Mr. Stacks actions anything but terrorism is newspeak. Years ago, the phrase was "one man's terrorist is another mans freedom fighter". So Joe Stack, the Unibomber and timothy McViegh are terrorists.

      Calling Tree-sitting or sugar in the gas tank "terrorism" is just "newspeak".

      "nothing comes of violence, nothing ever could"

      In the end I would hope that enough people are smart enough to make up their own minds.

    • 1 year ago
  • imadvanced
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      imadvanced  
    • CaptSutter:

      I agree. Calling tree-sitting or sugar in the gas tank "terrorism" would be ridiculous. The (in my opinion) overly broad definition of terrorism passed by Congress wouldn't even cover it. Labeling that "terrorism" would simply be a way to stigmatize an organization. This stigmatization would marginalize such an organization and reduce its ability to express its beliefs. It could be argued that it would infringe on the organizations first amendment rights (if done by a government actor).

    • 1 year ago
  • Argon18
  • keithponder
  • tommic
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      tommic  
    • Flying planes into building= crazy people terrorist or not, mentally umbalanced
      enviornmental activist= hero, want to save what man is so willing to destroy, some are a little extreme but nobody's died. Its called Protest protected under first Amendment to the Costitution, active protest included.

    • 1 year ago
  • CaptSutter
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      CaptSutter  
    • George Orwell had a name for this.
      New Speak
      double good good to you for bringing this up.
      "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is power and love is hate"
      What do you expect form illiterates who thrive on ignoring history?

    • 1 year ago
  • lizziehoffman
  • ibrake4rappers13
  • thedirtman
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      thedirtman  
    • The related story tagged at the bottom is also interesting:

      "Homeland Security Says Timothy McVeigh Isn’t a Terrorist, But Peace Activists Are"

      This is what fighting “terrorism” in this country has become.

      Timothy McVeigh is responsible for the Oklahoma City Bombing, the deadliest act of terrorism in this country prior to 9/11, killing 168 people, but a Homeland Security official says he’s not a terrorist. Neither is Eric Rudolph, who killed two people and injured hundreds others in a bombing campaign against abortion and a “homosexual agenda.”

      Pennsylvania’s Homeland Security Director James Powers said:

      “Tim McVey [sic] is not a terrorist, just very angry with the U.S. government,” Powers said. “Whether a person is a terrorist or a criminal is irrelevant to me.”

      You know whom he and the state police do consider terrorists? The Earth Liberation Front, Animal Liberation Front, and Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty, even though actions by those groups have been “relatively minor,” by their admission. Those groups have never injured anyone, let alone killed hundreds, but the Pennsylvania state police is offering free, yes free, “risk and vulnerability assessments” for corporations to help protect their profits from pesky activists. [Sounds kind of like that leaked State Department presentation, doesn't it?]

      Unfortunately, this is not an isolated, “news of the weird” kind of incident. It’s systemic.

      The Maryland State Police have admitted classifying 53 nonviolent activists as terrorists, including opponents of the war and the death penalty, and tracking them in state and federal “terrorism” databases. Cops infiltrated organizing meetings and rallies, and spied on political email lists, similar to the government infiltration of the RNC.

      The groups targeted, including the Maryland Campaign to End the Death Penalty and the Baltimore Pledge of Resistance, aren’t suspected of harming anyone, aren’t suspected of bombing anyone, aren’t even suspected of vandalizing property.

      Their crime? They’re “fringe people,” says Thomas E. Hutchins, the former state police superintendent who authorized the operation.

      “I don’t believe the First Amendment is any guarantee to those who wish to disrupt the government,” he said.

      Get this, one activist was described in police databases as having a “primary crime” of “terrorism-anti-government” and a “secondary crime” of “terrorism-anti-war protesters.” This wasn’t an isolated abuse of power, this is a coordinated campaign of harassment and intimidation.

      The gloves are really starting to come off, folks. Years ago, government officials were using these same tactics, but under the pretext of going after illegal, underground groups like the Earth Liberation Front. Now, they are openly, brazenly, harassing and infiltrating nonviolent activist groups with no connection–not even an ideological connection–to saboteurs. Why? This “War on Terrorism,” above all else, is an ideological war.

      In some ways, though, I think folks should take some pride in that. Considering what is mainstream government policy now, I’d much rather be in the camp of “fringe people.” As Billy Bragg said, “If you’ve got a blacklist, I want to be on it.”

    • 1 year ago
  • thedirtman
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      thedirtman  
    • thedirtman:

      "Their crime? They’re “fringe people,” says Thomas E. Hutchins, the former state police superintendent who authorized the operation."

      I say its not fair to treat the fringe that way... I mean just because they're from France?

      More seriously though, what could be the motivation for the strange definitions for terrorism?

    • 1 year ago
  • trut
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      trut  
    • thedirtman:

      Corporations, environmentalists could stop or delay corporate interests, want to label anyone who may get in their way as terrorists. enjoy your fascism

    • 1 year ago
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