Billionaires and Mega-Corporations Behind Immense Land Grab in Africa
source: http://www.alternet.org/world/145970/billionaires_and_mega-corporations_behind_immense_land_...
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sk8bs55
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what's the difference between corporations and corporals? there isn't corporations wage "wars" physical or financial in the name of good business and their "employees" fight for them. see: (haliburton, blackwater, etc.)it's a classic strategy: if you can't convince them, confuse them; if you can't beat 'em join 'em; divide and conquer, etc.
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sk8bs55
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crystalman
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Dont most of us know individuals who are wrapped up in the cloth of altruism and dont give a damn about the people around them? As I have mentioned before, it is a trait associated with idealist intellectuals. A great book on it is "Intelectuals" by Paul Johnson
Observing this altruism/ratbag dissonance is one of the factors that lead me to the fundamental position I have often expressed on these forums: that concern for the well-being of abstract "others" ( eg, environmentalism ) is always at the cost of real people in ones immediate community. That "morality" tends to foster the former over the latter and that the only humanly valid ethics is to concentrate squarely upon the needs of ones own community, family, self...ones own "tribe".
A skewed moral superiority is the conscience behind much criminal psychology. I think this may be why socialism is always corrupt.
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crystalman
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CaptB
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crystalman:
So what you are proposing is that we become isolationist within our own community. If we don't help others we will be better off in the end? I don't know if you are referring to city, state, country or what level of isolationism you refer or prefer?
I also do not agree that altruism (wanting to help others and do good, beneficence) is tied to being a ratbag. On the contrary, I find selfish people that are unwilling to donate their time or money to help others as unconscionable. However, that is why I am in the health care field.
You also try to tie saving the environment and helping others to moral superiority and a criminal mind? We tried isolationism prior to WW2. If we don't play a part in world economics we run the risk of repeating the past.
You can remain selfish and only help yourself. However, I hope that others see the futility and not helping others and what you sow when you live that life.
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CaptB
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jubal
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CaptB:
Right on captb.
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jubal
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crystalman
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The whole green movement has come about due to the mysterious need for human beings to have a feeling of moral superiority.
In the western world where traditional religious values and morals have been completely jettisoned a new moral superiority system has been invented.
How else would all our celebrities be able to claim a moral high ground in their conspicuous world of sex drugs and excess consumption.
Through lip service to green issues and so called human rights issues of the moment.
Unfortuntaely most of them are as hpocritical as their earlier ancestors who would moralise from the pullpits when in fact they themselves were leading completely immoral lives.
Many of the contemporary movers and shakers in this movement who aren't celebrities have all so often trodden the same path of student marxist activities in their youth shrilling at others on how they should live their lives and how and what they should think to a comfotable and privileged middle age of shrilling about green issues.
However I am also fully aware that the green movement is simply a bunch of privileged people who have no genuine intention of actually making sacrifices themselves and will just expect people in the third world to bear the brunt of all the sacrifices they deem necessary.
Observation of such types in the field, as it were, quickly shows such people to be visceral haters of their own society. This gives them the right to be immoral thieves.
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crystalman
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tommic
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crystalman:
Overloiad brain Dump
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tommic
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CaptB
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crystalman:
So everyone tied to the green environment happens to be a social elite from Hollywood hopped on narcotics and just doing it to rationalize their sinful lifestyle?
Yep, that is exactly what I think of to justify not destroying the rain forest or global warming concerns.
Or do you go against over 95% of scientist in the world and claim that we don't need to be concerned about the earth and that global warming is not occurring?
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CaptB
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crystalman
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CaptB:
Global warming is NOT occurring. Get with it bro...hasn't anyone told you?
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crystalman
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observer2121
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After reading this I am finding myself more understanding of Robert Mugabe's actions towards foreign firms. Mugabe is using his power to enrich himself and his cronies by demanding 51% ownership in foreign owned companies operating in Zimbabwe, of course you have to be well connected to benefit and that is the downside but at least Mugabe is getting tough with these foreign corporations who are only out to rape and pillage their way through Africa's resources.
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observer2121
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CaptB
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No right or wrong? The countries are willing to sell the land. They will profit from the deal. I hope that the leaders will share the profits with their people. I hope that the land will allow the local population to work in some form. I hope that the corporations do not treat the lands as toxic landfills that will hurt the people. No regulations, we just have to trust a corporation that is concerned about the bottom line (i.e. profits).
The genetic engineering of rice and crops is what bothers me most. Where the crops can only be harvested once and the country has to purchase the staple year after year. The G-8 and globalization, is it good or bad?
I find it wrong on so many levels. In the next 20-30 years water will be what wars are fought over in the Southern Hemisphere.
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CaptB
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JanforGore
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http://current.com/items/92315215_how-food-and-water-are-driving-a-21st-century-...
Colonialism is slavery. Biofuels and animal feed are what this is going for while then also feeding a fossil fuel intensive industrial agriculture industry that is stripping our soil of carbon and nutrients. The clearing of land to grow BTcorn and GM soy monocultures for feed and fuels are STARVING people in developing countries. It is also not as much a problem of lack of food, it is ACCESS to food. Multinationals are land grabbing in Africa and forcing farmers to grow luxury crops instead of having food sovereignty to grow food to feed themselves which is what they want to do. Local sustainable agriculture will not only feed the planet but balance our climate as well.
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JanforGore
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GodsnLiberals
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everything in everybody's life from head to toe are given to you by corporations..
chances are you work for a corporation..you ride a car made by a corporation..your computer is made by a corporation..your internet is a corporation..
shit even the coffin you would be buried in is made by some corporation..
something to think about...
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GodsnLiberals
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crystalman
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GodsnLiberals:
Bang on pal. Expose the hypocrisy.
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crystalman
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GodsnLiberals
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here comes the bleeding hearts..well why dont we see what africa is NOW...i mean i seen several religious and liberal orgnizations and charities .WELL THESE POOR AFRICANS ARE IN WORSE SHAPE..
sorry you guys had your chance........
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GodsnLiberals
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crystalman
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GodsnLiberals:
You tell'em. Double standards abound amomg the phonies.
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crystalman
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chinese_democracy
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Not even a little bit surprised....I'm more curious as to what will become of the natives and the land.
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chinese_democracy
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GodsnLiberals
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chinese_democracy:
it could not be any worse that what "live8" and decades of "we are the world" charities that had been milking this continent...
i believe its going to be a good thing
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GodsnLiberals
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crystalman
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GodsnLiberals:
Exactly.
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crystalman
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itoldyouso
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sell outs
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itoldyouso
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dariusvons
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not all that different from what happened in america with manifest destiny... too bad it's not overrun by only to men (rockefeller and carnegee)... but in africa it's monsanto and who knows what others.
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dariusvons
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twohawks
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Wow, heck of an article.
I wasn't going to post, then I saw oni's comment and figured, what the hell...I wonder if/how this could be a (an example) ramification not unrelated to such fears expressed by Brazilian and other third world countries with regard to the notion that corporate influences may use the global warming issues to facilitate rushing in for land and financial domination in third world nations.
I wonder, for instance, how these following views/reports may tie in (we may only guess if some of these corps have monies vested in said Ethiopian land snatching...
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Debates in Brazil Over Corporate Role in Deforestation
http://www.rightsandresources.org/blog.php?id=464 (see links within the article itself)
A recent article on allegations of corporate-led deforestation in Brazil appeared on Bloomberg.com. The story, Alcoa Razes Rain Forest in Court Case Led by Brazil Prosecutors, examines the role played by major corporations such as Alcoa and Cargill in the continuing deforestation and forest degradation of the Amazon. Focusing on the legal battles that pit Alcoa and Cargill against various governmental actors in Brazil, the article sheds light on the confluence of corporate interest, weak governance and inadequate legislation in the continued deforestation of the Amazon, and the related dispossession of indigenous peoples. The article touches upon mining, cash crops and cattle-raising in considering the incentives for deforestation in the face of the environmental damage these activities engender.================================================
Corporate power: Agrofuels and the expansion of agribusiness
Author: GRAIN Date: July 2007
http://www.grain.org/seedling/?id=478
Corporate interest in agrofuels has gone from a casual trot to a full-on stampede over the last few years. For business and politicians alike, agrofuels are certainly one of the more palatable “renewable” forms of energy because they fit easily into the existing petroleum-based economy. But they also present opportunities for profit that the new order of “green” business has wasted no time in capturing. Big money is now flowing into agrofuel projects across the world – with big consequences. - 1 year ago
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twohawks
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coconutjackson
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First they take all the resources and minerals, and now they want to take everything else thats left of the beautiful continent. Shame!
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coconutjackson
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CarolineS
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Suprised a story so political damaging has this made it onto currents top ranked, but this makes me happy to know i can read about REAL stories on here still!
The irony and tragedy of the fact that this country can produce enough food to feed it's millions upon millions of starving (and feed them well) instead chooses to send it off in exchange for money that average africans will never see.
Bob Geldof can organise a million concerts, but he'll never save Africa and he knows it. - 1 year ago
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CarolineS
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Maeveeo
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Oh so now they wanna grab up whats left of Africa , fuck it up till it becomes a WASTELAND !
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Maeveeo
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Oni_noni
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Okay...I'm ambivalent. On the one hand, it makes me sick to know that these rich wastes of oxygen are buying the fertle land right out from underneath the people who have lived there for practically ever. On the other hand, I'm sure most African nations could use the income. Honestly, I don't think it will benefit them in the long run. Okay, no longer ambivalent. I'm just vomitty (I modify words as I please) .
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Oni_noni
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jubal
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Hasn't this always been the case, land grabs are like taking a kid to a candy store.
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jubal
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MoonLoon
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How can an entire continent be "helped", when their leaders, civil servants, police, and every other dickwad with a small degree of power, conspires to extort bribes from anyone attempting to relieve the suffering of the poor. The major problem in Africa is Africans!
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MoonLoon
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tommic
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Explotation of Africa is nothing new, it has gone on for the last several centuries.
The world bank is complicit in the legal stealing of resources by making world bank loans contingent on mineral resource rights or oil rights which they control and are ultimatly sold for a fraction of their real worth and bingo the mega companies get really rich on deals like these. Vile and disgusting, and people wonder why civil war goes on in African countries like football games on sunday.
Rebel leaders find an easy following when their countries get ripped off, then those same companies profit from the very wars they cause. Worse than vile and disgusting, really too bad the CEO's of these megaliths couldn't be on the other end of a bullet. - 1 year ago
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tommic
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crystalman
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BTW Bush gave more aid to Africa than any othe US president. Africans love him.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/popular-in-africa-bush-has-given-...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/30/AR2006123000941....
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crystalman
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JuliusBC
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crystalman:
Crystalman, you are correct on the aid Bush gave to Africa. That is the one thing he did that was remarkable. I am still confused by the out of character move on that one. I am still totally BAFFLED!
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JuliusBC
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crystalman
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This post expresses an absolute and callous contempt for the welfare of the African people. It is in a subtle, cynical and pernicious way, quite racist. Voted down.
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crystalman
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crystalman:
Good observation! I agree with you totally. What many people also fail to see is what the French people did with their colonies and stealing all their natural resources to only build up their own country. You should see some of the surrounding buildings outside of Paris which are now simply tourist attractions where so much african resources and blood was spent. My intitution tells me that africa will be the only remaining continent on this planet and ultimatly the black race will be destroyed.
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Anthony_Gordon
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JaneBond007
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A land that will be cultivated to manufacture grains and rice in fields or other crops will lessened the hunger in many countries.
Even the food regulatory board for Africa will experience change and they will said that they will be richer in feeding many people.
Various crops can be planted too.
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JaneBond007
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crystalman
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Sounds like a good development to me. It might bring those shitholes out of the dark ages and primitivism into the light of the modern world, prosperity and progress.
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crystalman
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crystalman:
What? This has to be the most bigoted thing I've seen said on Current in a long time.
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booksellergirl
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stupidy
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It is all true, and disgusting. Corrupt politicians in these countries should should be prosecuted in the courts for these land deals, but they wont, because it has become acceptable. Next time you eat Mange Tout or Baby Corn in winter have a think whose land was stolen and sold to feed you, and where the family that used to farm the land might be now.
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stupidy
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onechance
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In other news... Billionaires behind every other grab as well not limited to but including: education grab, health grab, government grab and general male grab-ass...
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onechance
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JuliusBC
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I can only guess that they also have their eyes on the possibilities of slavery. OH, I forgot, for the most part, that is illegal now. Africa helped to build America so why not do their part now in helping the rest of the world.
Even if many are being compensated for their removal, it doesn't establish a future for them and their families not to mention the violation of their wills and desires.
If these wealthy countries and/or individuals would help the country of Africa and it's people get on their feet and become self-sufficient this could be a win win situation if it were done right. It appears; however, that it is only business as usual.
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JuliusBC