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Home Bible Studies Are Being Banned In Many Areas Of The United States

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Are home Bible studies slowly being made illegal in many areas of the United States? Unfortunately, the headline above is not a joke. It is actually happening in many areas of the country.
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125 comments // Home Bible Studies Are Being Banned In Many Areas Of The United States

  • CaptB
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      CaptB  
    • Jose_Luiscruz are you hearing any voices? Does God talk to you? Does Jesus talk to you?

      I am wondering if you have truly studied other religions? Have you truly tried reading the Qua-ran? Have you truly tried to open your heart to Allah? He is a peaceful god.

      So I am gleaning you have not tried to study Mormon beliefs, or pretty much anything but your own belief system. No Wiccan or paganism I am assuming?

      So you are essentially a product of your environment where your parents or friends convinced you through peer (pure) pressure to believe in what you do?

    • 2 years ago
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • The responses to this article make me want to bash my face into things, with comments like the one made by Jose_Luiscruz, what else do you expect me to do? By the way, I'm not putting you on the spot Jose_Luiscruz, but I hope you find therapy, I know many good therapists. One day, you'll take your medication and wonder why you've wasted your time on Earth worshiping an old torture device when there's so many beautiful and miraculous things that do not revolve around us puny humans and an outdated book we wrote.

    • 2 years ago
  • remanns
  • Almibry
  • sue4e3
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      sue4e3  
    • Almibry:

      you sound bitter that is ashame second you seem to be enjoying yourself preeching your religion here good luck with trying to convert us believers into nonbelievers .it does seem to get sticky when you start getting into peoples beliefs don't you think

    • 2 years ago
  • laserdog
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      laserdog  
    • Almibry:

      Assuming that people practice their religion out of stupidity or fear seems as ignorant as them assuming that you need saving.

      Yes they are some really bad examples of religious people who make the rest of them look bad. Similarly there are some bizarrely aggressive anti-religion people who think they're doing people a favor.

      IMHO people goto religion not out of fear or old stories. They go to be around other people who want to be better people.

      Some people are happy with where they're at, and can deal with life, these people probably don't have a lot of use for the tenets of religion, and good on then.

      But life is bad for some people, lots of things out of their control, and even if the end benefits don't exist, doesn't mean it didn't make them feel better in the meantime.

    • 2 years ago
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • sue4e3:

      Ah yes, my children gather and listen! I offer you salvation through yourself. I say I have stood before the light and I see reason! The world is a beautiful place and you are only limited by your will and ingenuity. I do not believe God speaks through me, and even if he did, we should all agree that you can't hear him through any means but your own. The world is scary, and your life will pass before you know it, but rejoice in the fact that it was ever given to you in the first place. You will not find truth on your knees before the pulpit. Your priest is a human, like me, like you. His clothes do not make him any better. Faith will keep you strong, and doubt will keep you flexible.

      That's preaching.
      Kiss, kiss love.

    • 2 years ago
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • laserdog:

      Well at least I'm honest and don't act all passive aggressive leaving you wondering about what I really want like some people who say they love me then threaten me with an eternity of torture. "IMHO people goto religion not out of fear or old stories. They go to be around other people who want to be better people." Well, that's one way to look at it, but in my experience, people go to church to be around people who all agree on the same principles and that's how you get religious groups that protest outside of funerals holding signs that say "Thank god for dead soldiers" or outside churches with signs saying "God hates fags" and they give their churches specific names so you know what prejudices they have.

    • 2 years ago
  • Almibry
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • Almibry:

      I tend to agree,...........but go to a Unitarian church in Austin Texas with the christians n wiccans n "gay power" spiritual-humanists n agnostics n whatnot,.....and you DO rapidly get a sense of people striving for a sense of " 'G'reater Community,......lesser 'g'od. "

      ---damn,....I just mad a T-shirt.

    • 2 years ago
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • Almibry:

      Yah. Did. I just don't have an emotional reaction to it. As long as he is not "LIVE",...screaming in my face and impeding my ability to freely walk down a sidewalk,....well,...I don't like hypocrites,...ever,....THAT pisses me off. That guy actually MAY wear a hair shirt and mortify his flesh; not my thing,...but internal consistency is central to my value system. I don't know him,...so no button pushed.

      Besides,....you are a "TAUNTER",....I assume it keeps your blood flowing and your interest up.

    • 2 years ago
  • Almibry
  • Arc_Angel
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      Arc_Angel  
    • Is this just Christians only or other groups of practice along with it?
      Either way, our situation in this country for our own rights is deteriorating rapidly. Most people would say that it isn't that serious or a huge problem compared to other things. For believers however, its just another step to the end. If this begins now, how long till the end to our right to Religion.
      Authentic or not, the situation is clear that we should start taking notice on just free our Free Rights really are.

    • 2 years ago
  • laserdog
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      laserdog  
    • Arc_Angel:

      Well the title talks about "Bible" studies, and the reporting site has likely only cherry picked examples of persecution of Christians.

      I suppose the headline "Half a Million US Churches doing just fine and not being bothered by anybody" has less of a ring to it.

    • 2 years ago
  • Bushido
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      Bushido  
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    • http://signsofthelastdays.com

      The origin website is signsofthelastdays.com. Sorry, but I refuse to take anything seriously from a website with such a ridiculous name. Not to mention that it is a bit of a stretch to believe that followers of the most dominant religion in the country are being systematically oppressed.

    • 2 years ago
  • monsieurturtle
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      monsieurturtle  
    • The problem with this prohibitive action is when it is not fairly implemented, which gives people some justification in suspecting that the action is not based in objective observance of the law. There should either be equal freedoms or equal restrictions in this instance, and any alternative, especially when it prohibits religious freedoms, should be opposed vehemently.

      It's good to see that Gilbert, Arizona is now reconsidering the ban, but the excuse of "traffic safety" did not hold up well when it was shown that many other gatherings were permitted on a regular basis with no kind of prohibition (football parties, girlscout events, business gatherings, and home-based daycare businesses).

      I'm not accusing Gilbert, AZ of being outright discriminatory, as it is more likely that they restricted one side of policy without keeping a wide perspective. However, it is a signal that those concerned with maintaining personal or legal freedoms should be thorough when analyzing the fairness of the system. (I'm reminded of a story about a Dania, FL manufacturing plant that kept enforcing its parking-in-the-rear-of-the-building only on its black employees, who obviously noticed sooner or later).

      Whether or not one agrees with or identifies with religion, the freedom to choose our belief (or lack thereof) is an important freedom that we should not allow to be abused or reduced.

    • 2 years ago
  • laserdog
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      laserdog  
    • monsieurturtle:

      We're really missing some vital details here.

      Are the police specifically targeting these religious meetings, or are they responding to neighborhood complaints?

      If the police are showing a pattern of institutional discrimination, that's clearly an issue and something that needs to be addressed.

      However if the police are being summoned by locals, and they respond and find a violation, they clearly have to enforce the law. The fact that the locals are inconsistent with complaining really isn't something anyone can do anything about.

      Bad neighbors can make anyone's life difficult. There isn't much to do about it other than keeping your nose clean and obeying local ordinances.

    • 2 years ago
  • carmalite
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      carmalite  
    • The crazies yelling that they can't pray at school probably created this headline to incite the other nuts.
      A person can pray all the time if they want to, and it does not have to be outloud.
      But I guess the crazies have not read the part of their bible where Christ tells them to pray in their "closet."
      And no one is going to stop anyone from reading the bible or studying it at home unless they have so many cars out there that they are causing a traffic pfoblem or doing it so loud that they are disturbing the peace.

    • 2 years ago
  • indecisiveh
  • indecisiveh
  • iloveflynn
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      iloveflynn  
    • If this article was truly was it implies it is, then I would be outraged. It would be a violation of our First Ammendment and basic human rights. But it's just about the neighbors complaints, not their Bible study.
      It's called parking across the street, or carpooling. Get used to it.

    • 2 years ago
  • laserdog
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      laserdog  
    • Sometimes vindictive neighbors call in fire code violations!

      News @ 11.

      Spinning it into a nationwide progressive conspiracy @ 12.

    • 2 years ago
  • CalgarC
  • MisterWizard
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      MisterWizard  
    • whether it's the word of God or not is not the issue. this would be and should be a violation of the 1st ammendment,(freedom of speech). people have sex, smoke pot, read dirty magazines, watch silly TV, and do all kinds of crazy stuuf in their private homes.

      someone please give me ONE logical reason as to why reading or studying any one book in the privacy of your own home should ever be illegal and banned. is that not what used to happen in the old soviet union ?

    • 2 years ago
  • trut
  • good_stuff
  • CalgarC
  • BrushwithDeathToothpaste
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      BrushwithDeathToothpaste  
    • The article is true. One of the reasons we have zoning laws is to keep traffic and public disturbance to a minimum in residential areas. However the two examples given have ended up as follows:

      1. Rancho Cucamonga, California - The town is letting them do it anyways even though neighbors have complained about the 20-40 cars that park there each week.

      2. Gilbert, Arizona - The town has reconsidered the zoning law to allow smaller congregations to gather in residential areas.

      The sharp right turn into Gay and Lesbian child adoptions has nothing to do with the issue and shows the article is pretty much full of shit.

    • 2 years ago
  • tommytripper
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      tommytripper  
    • how can i say this...

      i think everyone should read the Bible and Qur'an as well as Greek mythology, books on different aspects of traditional paganism (you can skip the new age Wicca crap), Hinduism and then just keep seeking out different religions to read up on... and no i am not joking

      hopefully you will find what you are looking for... or you will be like me and simply call it all man made road apples.

      i think however it is important to understand history and all its aspects, and religion has been a huge part of modern human history, it has inspired people and it is destroyed people. there are those who claim to have absolute truth, and yet they are among the first to break a common thread in all religions, thou shall not kill. but for some reason they do not apply this to themselves, or some how ignore it. or worse dehumanize someone of with a different set of ideas or beliefs and through this justify killing them.

      religion is a cancer on human reason, self improvement and humans taking responsibility for their flaws. for example, those who "find" Jesus on their death beds and some how expect it to wash away a life of doing ill to others. why not find salvation of self by living a good life and helping others? could you imagine, 6 billion people working together, putting aside religion, race, education, wealth, greed, status and simply working towards improving the lives of everyone around them

      i have seen forty thousand people do this, the community was not with out its bumps, and people acting only in self interest, but to watch pockets people build structure after structure in many cases not even being able to talk to each other because they do not speak the same language verbally, did not hinder their ability to help each other out. with a smile, an honest hug and nod of understanding. and a little booze and blunt never hurts to inspire people to work that much faster.

      you do not need an invisible friend to be a good human, but it seems to help justify doing some crazy ass sht.

    • 2 years ago
  • GodsnLiberals
  • slarabee
  • BrushwithDeathToothpaste
  • Uncle_B
  • slarabee
  • AldousHuxley
  • Uncle_B
  • CalgarC
  • trut
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      trut  
    • GodsnLiberals:

      That`s just like a Conservative, let`s go back to the middle ages and act like Muslims. I suppose you would keep on lowering people`s living standards until you could be the leader of your own all boys choir.

    • 2 years ago
  • LucaBoy
  • GodsnLiberals
  • CalgarC
  • CalgarC
  • Almibry
  • Almibry
  • trut
  • Almibry
  • trut
  • sk0j0
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      sk0j0  
    • This is a crock. Even if it isn't... Christian have had to underground before (still do in some countries) and they can survive it again.

    • 2 years ago
  • pos_nir
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      pos_nir  
    • quote: " If your not with us your with the terrorists "

      quite simply put = if you really beleive in peace and free will get ready for war

    • 2 years ago
  • cynker
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      cynker  
    • just fight for your right to say what the hell you like to who you like and to belive whatever nonsense you like.

    • 2 years ago
  • Almibry
  • suzane
  • Jose_Luiscruz
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      Jose_Luiscruz  
    • hello to all my brothers and sister in Christ. if i may say, even if this article is BS well, this is soon to pass because it is written in the word of GOD, the BIBLE. the persecution of Christians. second, with comments like the ones that ALMIBRY make what else can we expect from the world. and by the way almibry i am not putting you on the spot i just wish u can had a relationship with jesus, like i have and many other do too. although some christians can be hard to stand an trust me i know. well are all very easy going people that like to help others (well for the most part) so almibry what i'm trying to say is that one day you will stand before god and give an account for your life on earth, an just imagine if he asked you why did you not believe in me? i just wonder what your answer would be...... just think about that before you answer me mad an in rage. love u girl be safe

    • 2 years ago
  • Crenshaw_Brothers
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • Jose_Luiscruz:

      I don't want your love. It is not unconditional, you hide all sorts of stipulations in it. I will ever face your god because he doesn't exist. I do believe in God, but not the same way you do. I say I believe in God for the same reason I say I believe in gravity: it doesn't exist, but it's a lot easier to say I believe in gravity than to say I believe in the pressure created by space/time. Simply: God is too valuable a tool for me not to use. You hide behind a mask of good will when you mean to say you're better than me and I'm going to burn for eternity while you sit on marshmallows, jackin off with Jesus to the sound of a cherub playing a harp. Do you even realize how ridiculous that really is?
      I live my life well, and if your god is really so petty that he would damn me because I have a different definition of him, than that would only further justify my contempt for him. Keep your love to yourself, unless you promise to contain it in a basement, perhaps?

    • 2 years ago
  • sue4e3
  • remanns
  • H3ADLINE
  • CPr0ffitt
  • Almibry
  • H3ADLINE
  • Almibry
  • hombre76
  • H3ADLINE
  • H3ADLINE
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      H3ADLINE  
    • H3ADLINE:

      Seriously people, if an article sounds suspicious, it probably is. Especially if the website is from the, um, "enthusiastically" named: SIGNS OF THE LAST DAYS!!!! D= Sometimes the denizens of Current make me question their I.Q. *sigh* Just...wow.

    • 2 years ago
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • I say this is a good first step, I so wish it to be true. Hopefully all Christians will be forced to become basement worshipers, too afraid to preach to anyone in the outside world, because I sure am tired of hearing their crap.

    • 2 years ago
  • CPr0ffitt
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      CPr0ffitt  
    • Almibry:

      The reason i voted this down is that I don't believe our message is crap, it's the manner in which we go about spreading the word of God. I certainly don't evangelize, I have friends that do. Faith is a very personal matter and I firmly believe that if people seek to find Christ then they will. But perpetuated intolerance is certainly not the way to go let's be more positive! *that last part had a little sarcasm, but I think you get my point.*

    • 2 years ago
  • SarahAna
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      SarahAna  
    • Almibry:

      You look like such a cute sweet girl. I'm surprised you're being so rash. As though all Christians are out waving their crosses in the streets damning people to hell. You wish that they'd be afraid to worship? What would they be afraid of? That non-christians will go around burning down churches and the government will pass laws against Christians? Sounds pretty irrational and intolerant. And no, not all Christians are kooks. The ones that make the news are kooks and those are the only ones you hear about!

    • 2 years ago
  • LinXitoW
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      LinXitoW  
    • Almibry:

      I think she is absolutely right. Either your a classical christian and believe things from the bible, of which a lot are just downright stupid, or you're one of the "modern" ones who says the bible is pretty much BS....but lets just selectively take out the good stuff and believe in that. You dont need wierd mumbojumbo to follow the Golden Rule.

    • 2 years ago
  • Uncle_B
  • Crenshaw_Brothers
  • DRudeBoy
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • CPr0ffitt:

      I get what you're saying, but what you're saying simply isn't true. It's a personal choice ("you can lead a horse to water...) but I still get people knocking on my door all the time trying to convert me, and I really just want to be left well enough alone. I really do wish they would just go away, or stay in their basements. Hey, if they liked the great outdoors better, I'd tell 'em to go get lost in the woods.

    • 2 years ago
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • SarahAna:

      I used to be Christian, and they wanted me to be afraid of something I couldn't see/touch/explain, I'm just wanting to return the favor. And leave my looks out of it. Your pic looks like a huge wang, and you're on God's side?

    • 2 years ago
  • Almibry
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • DRudeBoy:

      What about my right to sleep in without someone trying to instill the fear of God in me? I don't get apes waking me up wanting me to see the truth of Darwinism, so I like the apes more. The real fall of man wasn't eating from the tree, it was falling from the tree.
      I feel violated when someone tells me they're going to pray for my soul. I feel violated when someone knocks on my door, and instead of a "Hi, how 'ya doin'?" I hear "If you died right now, would you go to heaven or hell?" I would much rather these people never see the light of day, but I'd be happy if they just stayed in their basements when they get the urge to convert someone, or preach at me about how badly I need saving, or about how beneficial being born again is. Unlike some people, I'm busy growing up (can you tell?).

    • 2 years ago
  • Crenshaw_Brothers
  • Crenshaw_Brothers
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • Crenshaw_Brothers:

      I actually prefer it when they ask "If you die now, will you go to heaven or hell?" Because I can pretend to be scared, and ask if they're threatening to kill me. It really throws them off and if they take too long to leave on their own, I'll tell them I'm beginning to feel like I need to defend myself or call the cops and they really don't like it when you do that. I pretended I was having an orgy once... Awkward... Satanic ritual would be more fun.

    • 2 years ago
  • SarahAna
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      SarahAna  
    • Almibry:

      Where the hell do you see a wang? It's a photo from my wedding where my husband is getting my garter. I have no idea how that could be mistaken for a wang. And no, i'm not on God's side. your comment was just a bit much.

    • 2 years ago
  • DRudeBoy
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      DRudeBoy  
    • Almibry:

      They're not violating any of your rights, and this isn't characteristic of all Christians. IF you don't want to talk to them, you can walk away, they can't come into your house. By your logic, it's okay for fundamentalist Christians to take away homosexual rights because it makes them uncomfortable.

      I can tell by your attitude, you aren't busy growing up; you have bigoted stereotypes about Christians.

    • 2 years ago
  • trut
  • Almibry
  • Almibry
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • DRudeBoy:

      From Dictionary.com
      big·ot
         /ˈbɪgət/ Show Spelled[big-uht]
      –noun
      a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
      Word Origin & History
      1590s, from Fr. bigot (12c.), in O.Fr. "sanctimonious;" supposedly a derogatory name for Normans, the old theory (not universally accepted) being that it springs from their frequent use of O.E. oath bi God. Plausible, since the Eng. were known as goddamns in Joan of Arc's France, and during World War I Americans serving in France were said to be known as les sommobiches (see also son of a bitch). But the earliest French use of the word (12c.) is as the name of a people apparently in southern Gaul (which led to the now-doubtful, on phonetic grounds, theory that the word comes from Visigoth). Sp. bigote "mustache" also has been proposed as a source, though the sense is not adequately explained. The earliest English sense is of "religious hypocrite," especially a female one, and may have been influenced by beguine. Sense extended 1680s to other than religious opinions.
      big·ot (bĭg'ət)
      n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
      [French, from Old French.]
      Word History: Bigots may have more in common with God than one might think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal, it is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or very possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on Old French bigot meant "an excessively devoted or hypocritical person." Bigot is first recorded in English in 1598 with the sense "a superstitious hypocrite."

    • 2 years ago
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • DRudeBoy:

      I don't fit this definition of a bigot because I have no problems with mustaches, or french nuns, nor do I have a problem with other thought processes, what I have a problem with is people who try to force their beliefs on me, who think that it's more important to agree on the name of god and read the right book with the right set of interpretations then it is to live a good balanced life. And if I've been hypocritical, I'm sure you would have jumped on that by now, so that's not the case. Sure I can walk away from any conversation I feel like, but maybe I've just had bad experience with people who've tried to convert me because some were very rude and would not leave my family alone for weeks. My mother finally had to call the cops on them because they were bullying my older sister. I have a problem with organized religion because they're typically the intolerant ones, not me.

    • 2 years ago
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • Almibry:

      Fuck the Normans. I'm keeping my sax-on while they bend over for my sword thrust so my feet are not soiled by the earth they have trod upon or the seed they have spilled between their toes.

      But perhaps I hold a grudge too long.

    • 2 years ago
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • Almibry:

      More to the point; to grant credit where due,.....the Norman/Saxon relationship IS the origin of the phrase "Having Sax". (Also the advocation of "sword swallower".)

    • 2 years ago
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • Almibry:

      Don't even get me STARTED on "Priests"; pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,tt (spits the blood of hypocrite-invaders and irritated dislodged phlegm into the cold waters of the English channel.)

    • 2 years ago
  • remanns
  • Omnomynous
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      Omnomynous  
    • And this submission reflects why Current is weak, of course the stereotypical views held of those who would consider themselves "Christian" (you know followers of Christ, not some televangelists teachings or representation of what Christianity is.), isn't helping a damn thing.

      Not surprised hate mongers voted this smoldering pile of sh!t up... Besides that it's probably a "false flag", I seriously doubt a Christian even wrote that.

      Here so I don't miss my chance; Kill the Christians!!! (yaye look I'm ignorant and petty too)

    • 2 years ago
  • neocongo
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      neocongo  
    • Another persecuted Christian article that is completely unsourced and unsubstantiated. What a sad way to attract followers.

    • 2 years ago
  • CPr0ffitt
  • Crenshaw_Brothers
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      Crenshaw_Brothers  
    • Im athiest. I dont care if it is being mede "illegal". The only thing that matters to me is that it is your constitional right to freedom of religion but dont complain because some people are not of the same religion.

      There is NO need for religion in this country its screwed up enough. It is not right.

      AND (this is unrelated) i dont want "God" in schools, its unconstitutional.

      Outlaw relgion.

    • 2 years ago
  • MirrorLake
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      MirrorLake  
    • "Persecution of Christians is only going to get worse from here on out, so you better buckle up and get ready.

      This is going to be quite a ride."

      ahahahahahahahaha

    • 2 years ago
  • UndoInfluence
  • FlexSF
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      FlexSF  
    • If this were true I would continue to hold disgust towards the money laundering anti gay christianist lunatics. Those rotten bastards voted away my right to get married.

    • 2 years ago
  • Saladin
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