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Proof That Jesus Existed: They Found the Nail Used to Crucify Him!

source: http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/2010/03/proof-that-jesus-existed-they-found.html

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The four-inch long nail is thought to be one of thousands used in crucifixions across the Roman empire. Archaeologists believe it dates from either the first or second century AD. The nail was found last summer in a decorated box in a fort on the tiny isle of Ilheu de Pontinha, just off the coast of Madeira. Pontinha was thought to have been held by the Knights Templar, the religious order that was part of the Christian forces which occupied Jerusalem during the Crusades in the 12th century. The knights were part of the plot of Dan Brown's best-selling novel, The Da Vinci Code. Bryn Walters, an archaeologist, said the iron nail's remarkable condition suggested it had been handed with extreme care, as if it was a relic.

"It dates from the first to second centuries," he told the Daily Mirror.

While one would expect the surface to be "pitted and rough" he said on this nail the surface was smooth.

That suggested that many people had handled it over the centuries, with the acid on their hands giving it a "peculiar finish".

Christopher Macklin of the Knights Templar of Britannia said the discovery was "momentous".

He said the original Knights Templar may have thought it was one of the nails used in Christ's crucifixion.

The nail was found together with three skeletons and three swords.

One of the swords had the Knight Templar's cross inscribed on it.

Link: http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/2010/03/proof-that-jesus-existed-they-...
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168 comments // Proof That Jesus Existed: They Found the Nail Used to Crucify Him!

  • Almibry
  • Almibry
  • ryan8566
  • shavfo17
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      shavfo17  

    • the Jewish historian Josephus wrote about Jesus and his followers, so there is documentation of his existence outside of the bible. 100 years later a roman historian added the whole crucifixion thing. nothing about rising from the dead though. and besides that there were dozens of "messiahs" running around at the time and hundreds of crucifixions. whose to say those nails weren't from Apollonius of Tyana or Simeon of Jerusalem or Spartacus' rebels.

    • 2 years ago
  • Daniel_Bernard
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      Daniel_Bernard  
    • shavfo17:

      Actually the account Josephus gave is thought by some to be a forgery. The fact that he was around after Jesus had lived and he was an avowed Jew till the day he died, among other things contradict the depiction of him in his supposed work Testimonium Flavianum. Euseibus, a Christian doctor was the first person to reference Josephus' work in 324 AD and also happened to be a proponent of a movement that held it was ok to lie to people as long as it got them believing in Christ. Coincidence?

    • 2 years ago
  • shavfo17
  • s_peak
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      s_peak  

    • How is that proof? We already know the Romans, and MANY OTHER CULTURES did crucifixions. Did they find Jesus' DNA on the nail? Yeah I didn't think so.

      Seriously anyone reading this needs to watch this video. All religions share many aspects and it's all easily explained by the study of the movement of the sun. Back in the day... what did people do to ponder creation? They looked to the sun. Watch this... and question your beliefs like a real human being. Finding out you're wrong should be a beautiful thing... because it means you're growing.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQLD59fK_Iw

    • 2 years ago
  • ImissLaura
  • shavfo17
  • vicgal
  • ryan8566
  • mitekillem
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      mitekillem  

    • I have an idea for a movie. As a part of a Delta Force assignment, Chuck Norris must follow his enemy back in time to 1 AD. The gate he uses to go back in time leaves an illuminous spot in the sky above the city of Jerusalem. He tracks his enemy from Egypt to Nazareth and back. He fights corruption in the streets. He cures the blind with his fists. The waters dare not move as he walks on them, in fear of a torrential ass-beating.
      If he serves you water, and tells it's wine; It Is Wine!
      He had a pose of 12 dudes, and one fine ass momma' following him everywhere.
      At some point he discovers his enemy has gone beyond this world, and into the next.
      Chuck tells his pose that he's going to the otherside to lay down some thick roundhouse kicks to the chest of his enemy.
      ...And then, he's coming back.
      His pose knowing how absolutely awesome he is, does as he says.
      So they help him cross over so he can finish his mission.
      On his way back, he meets Death, who then immediately soils himself and runs off.
      Chuck comes back unopposed, and undefeated. He then returns back to his original time.

      I call it The Greatest Movie EVER!!!
      If you don't think so, you can talk to Chuck.

      http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg253/scykill/Funny%20Shit/RippedJesus.jpg

    • 2 years ago
  • noephoto
  • maxjunk
  • RoBot_rOcKer
  • simall08
  • ImissLaura
  • s_peak
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      s_peak  
    • simall08:

      The love of your creator can mean many things to many people, but it is indeed beautiful to know you are united with the creative force, whatever it may be. As long as you don't disbelieve in things like evolution, you're still human... because if your understanding of creation serves to disconnect you from the world... and if your understanding of creation shades your view of provable, scientific, logical processes of the earth and universe... then you need to rethink your belief. Seriously. If you ignore logic in favor of magic you have lost your free will to think. That's all I'm saying.

    • 2 years ago
  • s_peak
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      s_peak  
    • ImissLaura:

      Even worse... organized religion has been used for centuries for PROFIT. And then they spend the money made in the church on billboards against gay marriage while the world rots. They COULD have given that money (enough to feed and clothe at least one village somewhere) to help people who actually need it.

      Spirituality is good... but organized religion has been polluted by the profit motive. Even the bible we currently use is the "King James Version" right? I mean.. you know he had a panel of people CHANGE the bible specifically to keep people in line and paying taxes, right? The bible is used to control the masses. If you think I'm lying then you are under the spell.

    • 2 years ago
  • irie_ojo
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    • s_peak:

      Some people want to keep that salad-bowl over their head and pretend to be euphoric. Tweedle-dee...
      That's what they have come to for their life path.

    • 2 years ago
  • eden49
  • carmalite
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      carmalite  

    • Crucification was a very common way to put people to death at that time. It was just one of the many sadistic and cruel ways they killed people. There were probably thousands of nails like thata and this is one the knights templar found.

    • 2 years ago
  • bking74
  • deathvoices
  • CalgarC
  • chinese_democracy
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      chinese_democracy  

    • I wonder how authentic people will think it is when we see it in an auction in the coming months.... Anyways, congratulations to the the believers. Now they have physical evidence to reaffirm their delusions in order to combat heathenistic atheists proof, which is usually things like dinosaur fossils (i hope my sarcasm is apparent here)

    • 2 years ago
  • UndoInfluence
  • Logos51891
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      Logos51891  

    • The article said that the Knights Templar MAY have thought the nail was genuine. It could be a hoax like thousands of other so called relics. However, I could be wrong.

    • 2 years ago
  • Juas
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      Juas  

    • Is there DNA in the nail? Maybe we can clone the Jesus?
      Maybe we can mash it up with a dinosaur's DNA and have our great God Raptor Jesus.

      Damn.

    • 2 years ago
  • disorderdis0rder
  • CalgarC
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  • iloveflynn
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      iloveflynn  

    • I don't need or want proof that Jesus was crucified.
      There is an argument that if God could be proven to exist, then He does not exist.
      We believe in Him soley on faith alone, and that's the way He designed it to be.

    • 2 years ago
  • blackheartman
  • irie_ojo
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      irie_ojo  
    • iloveflynn:

      shitty design..... let their be war and famine in my name....give money to the church when you have so little....... worship me no matter.

      " if God could be proven to exist, then He does not exist. " is the best line ever... takes all doubt from your mind huh....

      if you believe in him soley on faith alone, then why are churches the biggest, most profound buildings in every town...it amazes me when i pass through a poor small town and the church shadows everything in town. then the people attend the service only to be asked for more money (collection tray). and the priest usually live a pretty posh life. shouldnt he have nothing except for the church.(and a lil boy now & then)lol....

      religion is bullshit.........causes more conflict then peace

    • 2 years ago
  • Lucretia_Gross
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      Lucretia_Gross  
    • iloveflynn:

      Right, you take Christianity's weakest point and turn it into it's strongest. That way no one can ever question it outright. You have a default response to everything: Faith.

      Pttttttttttttttttttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhttttttttttttttttttttt!

    • 2 years ago
  • iloveflynn
  • iloveflynn
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  • randallr01
  • Found_Avenue
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      Found_Avenue  

    • "...[SOME GUY] said the original Knights Templar MAY HAVE THOUGHT it was one of the nails used in Christ's crucifixion..."

      Now there's some hardcore PROOF if you ask me...!
      Yeah, you NAILED it!

    • 2 years ago
  • Progresshiv
  • blackheartman
  • eden49
  • Progresshiv
  • blackheartman
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      blackheartman  

    • Hey, i found a reindeer antler buried in my backyard the other day. Reindeer don't live in my neck of the woods, so I guess one of Santa Claus's reindeer must've dropped it. Yay! I just found the PROOF that Santa Claus is real.

    • 2 years ago
  • slarabee
  • blackheartman
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  • eden49
  • eden49
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    • eden49:

      The movie - a good, upper-mid production where a little flower, when ingested, makes the mind speed up so fast that one may see fairies which, according to the plot, dot about all around us but so fast they are just out of our ability to see them. The flower let's you see them - and they are naked, sexy little imps. Eden YOU would love it.

      It's supposed to be right when Sir Conan Doyle came out in the Strand with his fair stories.

      By the way, did you see Fairy Tale, A True Story? Top budget, top actors, wonderful story.

    • 2 years ago
  • eden49
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      eden49  
    • 02:

      ahhh, you know me so well, watched that movie many times...and, sitting on the balcony one night, about 1am, quiet & still, not a breeze, and a tiny gold ??? flew past, zig zagging, then stopped, suspended, then flew straight past again...fast, and so bright...scared the crap out of me...

    • 2 years ago
  • irtehjoe
  • mindcruzer
  • jpvt
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      jpvt  

    • This doesn't prove anything. The Templars were formed 1,000 years after the death of Jesus. The odds that it is a nail used in the crucifixion of Jesus are almost non-existent. It's just another fake relic, like Shroud of Turin, used to fool medieval people into attending one church as opposed to another one.

    • 2 years ago
  • slarabee
  • Tyr
  • Found_Avenue
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      Found_Avenue  
    • slarabee:

      Actually, Slarabee, there seems to be a big controversy as to whether or not Jesus existed, at least here on current. As a non-Christian, I found myself in the midst of some Jesus-related religious debate here on Current at one time. I wrote something to the effect of "listen, Jesus was simply a man who existed on this planet. He didn't have any more holy powers than you or I..."

      Well, the backlash I got was HUGE... and not from religious zealots who were furious at my statement, but from NON-RELIGIOUS Zealots who were furious that I claimed that Jesus was actually "a man who existed on this planet..." They went nuts and ripped me a new one!

      Funny, but true story.

    • 2 years ago
  • slarabee
  • 402Chicago
  • s_peak
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      s_peak  
    • slarabee:

      Honestly I think the debate over Jesus' existence misses the point entirely. It really doesn't matter. I personally believe he was nothing more than a character in a story book... we have lots of historical records and geological studies and logic... that tell are telling us that the bible is probably made up entirely or mostly made up. However, I think the entire notion of religion has been distorted and broken by profit, essentially. Spirituality can be beautiful... but when RELIGION requires you to sacrifice your connection with the world and anything provable with logic and reason... then religion is just plain wrong. For if god put fossils here to "test our faith" then nothing in the knowable world can truly be known. and what god would want that?

    • 2 years ago
  • CloudsforBrains
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