Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran?

Nothing wrong with animals. I know some animals that are smarter than people. I had a dog who was smarter than most people. Literally.

But at least the heart's in the right place - :-}

hi jammer!

Leanardo was able to express himself because he had some money available to him.
We have a different society now. The small steal and inhibit progress.

But he did draw pictures. Mostly mechanical devices.

The problem is most people don't decide what to believe in- they just believe what their parents believe, and what their cultural background believes.

Putting out info like this is good, so people will learn to examine their beliefs intelligently, based on facts.

ADULTS!! ?? Adults? - ?

So you are saying get rid of religion because it rots the brain?
Yes of course Einstein was not a Jew at all. Besides that this has to be one of the most ignorant things I have read this year.
The mind can expand and grasp as much information as it is fed. Attack religion all you want just do not be stupid on your approach.
While I am on this I might as well add that I believe in God yet I am well on my way to getting a degree in civil engineering. So am I stupid for believing in God? If so, you might want to go read and expand your own knowledge before you begin criticizing people for their beliefs.

It's like saying you're a good lover even though you have a chess game on your ipod.

More importantly, as you study this life we have, you'll find you are in a universe - that is the very thing you have been hoping to know with your belief in God - only you'll find you have more information than everyone who ever dreampt up the notions placed for their "God"

You know more. You will begin to acknowledge that the billions of galaxies and the trillions of stars -that you can see are the flesh of any God you were so fervently believing in- so out-weigh in preponderance the little cartoon visions you had been entertaining, that you, yourself could design several equally viable and equally absurd religions to match in veracity those that been taught and believed in by all the millions and millions of unfortunates who threw their lives away believing in them.

In order words, you will soon see that the "God" that is taught and hoped for - is a complete fabrication and does not amount to anything when compared to what you can understand about the Universe.

The earnest writers and creators of these religions, simply did not have, remotely the information that is now available - or they would have written things differently.

Now, this means you're going to have to look at what you know and can come to know about the Universe - because it makes human thoughts and histories really stupid little abstracts. Beyond stupid.

But know this: you'll be better and happier for it.

well said

in your opinion, I am not intolorant o fpeople who practice religion, I do not talk about it with them unless they start the conversation. History speaks for itself regarding religion, I have no more need to defend my statement other than that.

First: yes, there religions that advocate good things, and religions that advocate bad things. The end results of religion are not always bad.

But the core mentality of religion is always bad- the concept of having blind faith in something with absolutely no proof whatsoever. It is ignorance raised to a virtue.

If you don't know something you don't know it- period.
To claim that is a fundamentalist stance or closed-minded is completely ridiculous.

It is the ultimate example of an open mind to admit that there are things you don't know, without having to make something up to fill the void, and cling to that made up thing blindly.

Second: no, "secular states" have never been responsible for atrocities. Bloodthirsty, power hungry dictators have been.

Blaming Stalin's actions on the lack of religion is like blaming Hitler's actions on having a tiny mustache.

Religion does breed intolerance absolutely. Its tough to deal with people who believe that by having faith in one ancient book over another makes them superior to you. Every organized religions tells its followers it is the "only Truth" and that any who dont believe are heathens and should be either killed or converted.

Personally i feel that organized religion as a whole is a sham to put power and money into the hands of the few. But it isnt necessarily bad... it just lends itself to be twisted into something so evil and corrupt that people ignore the good morals the stories are supposed to teach in the first place.

your critique of tommic involves 2 fallacies:

1) ad hominem - you make an unnecessary personal attack with your name calling

2) red herring - the fact that atrocities were committed for other reasons than religious has no bearing on the fact that religion was, is and continues to be the source of so much violence, misery and atrocity.

just trying to keep it real little buddy - looks like you are just another pea in a pod as well

Religion is made up of 'people' - it's 100% those people. It is nothing without them. tommic words are good - and wholly truthful and wholly reflective of reality.