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Thousands rally against wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

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Thousands of protesters — many directing their anger squarely at President Barack Obama — marched through the nation's capital Saturday to urge immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.

At least eight people, including activist Cindy Sheehan, were arrested by U.S. Park Police at the end of the march, after laying coffins at a fence outside the White House. Friday marked the seventh anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

"Arrest that war criminal!" Sheehan shouted outside the White House before her arrest, referring to Obama.

At a rally before the march, Sheehan asked whether "the honeymoon was over with that war criminal in the White House" — an apparent reference to Obama — prompting moderate applause.

The protesters defied orders to clear the sidewalk on Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the White House and park police say they face charges of failure to obey a lawful order.

Activist Ralph Nader told thousands who gathered in Lafayette Park across from the White House that Obama has essentially continued the policies of the Bush administration, and it was foolish to have thought otherwise.

"He's kept Guantanamo open, he's continued to use indefinite detention," Nader said. The only real difference, he said is that "Obama's speeches are better."

Others were more conciliatory toward Obama. Shirley Allan of Silver Spring, Md., carried a sign that read, "President Obama We love you but we need to tell you! Your hands are getting bloody!! Stop it now."

Allan thought it was going too far to call Obama a war criminal but said she is deeply disappointed that the conflicts are continuing.

"He has to know it's unacceptable," Allan said. "I am absolutely disappointed."

The protest drew a smaller crowd than the tens of thousands who marched in 2006 and 2007. Protests in cities around the country also had far fewer participants than in the past.

San Francisco's rally brought out Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the top-secret Pentagon Papers study of the Vietnam War and is the subject of the recent documentary film, "The Most Dangerous Man in America." He likened the protest and others like it around the country Saturday to a day of demonstrations organized against the conflict in Vietnam in 1969.

"They thought it had no effect," he told the crowd in San Francisco, referring to the 1969 protesters. "They were wrong."

Ellsberg said President Richard Nixon was planning to escalate the war around that time, but held off.

Protesters in Washington stopped at the offices of military contractor Halliburton — where they tore apart an effigy of former Vice President and Halliburton Chief Executive Dick Cheney — the Mortgage Bankers Association and The Washington Post offices.

Anna Berlinrut, of South Orange, N.J., was one of a number of protesters who have children who have served in Iraq, and said her son supports her protests.

"If there were a draft, we'd have a million people out here," Berlinrut said when asked about the turnout. The exact number of protesters was unclear, as D.C. authorities do not give out crowd estimates. Organizers estimated the march, which stretched for several blocks, at 10,000.

Despite the arrests, the protest was peaceful. At the outset, police closed a portion of the sidewalk in front of the White House fence after protesters tried to use mud and large stencils to spell out "Iraq veterans against the war."

Once the sidewalk was closed, the protesters stenciled the message on the street using mud they had carried in buckets to the rally.

Sheehan has been a vocal critic of the war since her 21-year-old son Casey was killed in Iraq in April 2004. She staged a prolonged demonstration in 2005 outside former President George W. Bush's ranch near Crawford, Texas.

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37 comments // Thousands rally against wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

  • ryan8566
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      ryan8566  
    • but everyone sat quitely while bush/cheney started an illegal war against iraq,
      which the current administration is winding down....$400 billion, 4000 soldiers killed, countless maimed for life and we leveled the country, due to arrogance.

    • 1 year ago
  • Monkey_Films
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      Monkey_Films  
    • ryan8566:

      Millions are still standing by while the war IS NOT winding down under this President, whom I voted for, and another illegal war has been increased while we have now illegally entered a couple of other countries and plan another war in Iran. You're partisanship blinds you to the ongoing atrocities under your 'Party'. BTW, to say yes it's wrong but your side sat by and watched first sounds like a schoolyard argument between kids playing kickball. It's my ball so I make the rules, lol. I voted for Obama but I don't claim a partisanship, both parties make me sick now. Nothing ever gets done when the argument is we're in the majority now, bitches! That's Democracy, we live in a Republic where everyone works together, preferably.

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
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      artemis6  
    • The real is desperation , and ignorance . This 'culture of war' is fertile soil of abominable actions , extremist religions . If there were a network of safe schools and hospitals , do you really think the Taliban would not wither ? They would , because people would have another option . Even if the older generation stayed with the Taliban , the children would slip away from them with each passing generation . It is happening here too as people turn away from education and the economy suffocates . Extremist grow here too . For the very same reasons .

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
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      artemis6  
    • Excellent ! I am glad to know from Daniel Ellisberg , that protests do have an effect . I thought I has waisted a fair portion of my life in ineffectual actions ....

    • 1 year ago
  • treewolf39
  • Monkey_Films
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      Monkey_Films  
    • treewolf39:

      Excellent addition, Dems should check him out very well. He is a friend and confidant of this administration and it is no exaggeration to say his mind is as sick or sicker than anyone in the Nazi party.

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
  • bking74
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      bking74  
    • I am not going to attempt to try and convince anyone that the initial invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan was morally just or even essential to our national security. But it is vital that we defeat the Tailiban, Al Qaeda and other extreme terrorist groups. No one can argue that regional stability is the road to our nation's and the world's safety. If we were to withdraw from Afghanistan the nation would be plunged in chaos as religious terrorist groups fought tribal warlords and foreign nations would manipulate the various factions for their own selfish agenda's. True, Iraq (mostly in the south) has a long way to go back signs of improvement are evident. The infrastructure is being rebuilt, stability and security in the north is pouring much needed oil revenue in the nation and U.S. troops are handing over more and more power to the Iraq government. Nothing short then the complete destruction of the Tailiban and Al Qaeda can be accepted in Afghanistan, what the cost. If the Taliban regains power in Afghanistan not only will the Afghan people be subject to barbaric religious laws. But, the war would spill over to Pakistan, which is currently fighting it's own "War on Terror". Several terrorist groups are engaging in a war with the sole purpose of overthrowing the Pakistan government, gaining access to nuclear weapons and to export terrorism across the war. An alliance between Pakistan-based terrorist group, Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Taliban and Al Qaeda not only cross the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan at will but control sections of Pakistan. The Swat valley is a haven for these terrorist groups and pose an extremely dangerous threat to the national security of Pakistan. Withdrawing our troops from Afghanistan and turning our backs on Pakistan would not only directly lead to the destruction of both countries but plunge the world in a war of terror that will consume us all. I also have several issues with this article. The author claims the U.S. Military lacks a clear military plan and mission. This is of course not true, the Marines in the south of Afghanistan are experiencing their objective in eliminating the last few pockets of Taliban militant groups with the help of local tribal militia. Also the U.S. Army is sending the 10th Mountain and 101st Airborne to eastern Afghanistan close to Pakistan's border, with the purpose of the complete destruction of the Taliban and Al Qaeda. If the American public is tired of the U.S Military engaging in what seems endless war after war then the American public must take back control of their government and radically change our foreign policy.

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • bking74:

      I agree that the Taliban must be PERMANENTLY BANNED from the planet. They are like a noxious weed that will come back. It must be removed by the root. But at what cost. There has to be a limit. There has to be a better way.

    • 1 year ago
  • Sw3rv
  • roheasy
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      roheasy  
    • Yeah this shits fucked up..its 2010 and were wasting ridiculous bread on the dumbest shit...we could fund wars out the ass but cry our eyes out over some healthcare bill? we rather spend money on weapons than medicine for our own folks who need it

    • 1 year ago
  • Monkey_Films
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      Monkey_Films  
    • roheasy:

      Don't believe the easy explanation, ever. The healthcare bill is a bill of many kinds. Page 1382 of the bill gives the President the funding to start a civilian military with all of the money, equipment and funds of our regular military. Talk about bankrupting the country. Guess what else, these people aren't to protect you from foreigners but are to patrol the streets and spy on Americans. This is, or was, completely illegal in this country and for very good reasons. These are nothing more than Brown Coats, SS, BAD NEWS! Why would that be in the Health-Care bill? Don't just read snippets in the news or even listen to the news. These days you can't make any decision without in-depth research of your own.

    • 1 year ago
  • WeAreChangeKy
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      WeAreChangeKy  
    • Awesome post, Jan. These wars are lies, they are incredible polluters, they destroy lives and land. I'm sick of all the money we spend to destroy the world while the planet and the people could use a little help. There are murderers amongst us and they should be arrested. Imagine what we could do to help 'green' the planet with all of that war money. Sick.

    • 1 year ago
  • CaptB
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      CaptB  
    • We need to pull out of Iraq as soon as possible. I would like for us to APOLOGIZE for going into their country under false pretense and offer them some sort of conciliatory financial settlement. Although, I know that we cannot admit Bush was wrong openly in this manner. Spreading our form of govt, democracy, is not our right to impose on others, because there NEVER were WMD or Alquaeda (sic) in Iraq.

      Afghanistan will never be rid of the political and religious ideations that manifest over there. Regardless how long we stay, they are the same impoverished people that have little to no education and soak up a few religious leaders rhetoric.

      We need to draw a line and establish some endpoint in Afghanistan. Some benchmarks. If we can arrest or kill 50%, 60%, or 70% of Alquaeda (sic) then we pull out.

      Should we invade Pakistan? That is where the majority of these people are hiding out at. We have given the Pakistani Govt over $500 million to allow the U.S. to fly over their country at the onset of the war. Where do we stop with just invading countries?

      N. Korea and Iran are not doing exactly what we want, does that give us the GOD given right to invade. Or the moral highground to invade their countries because we need to spread...democracy? Rid them of weapons that we find dangerous?

      Do we have the right to impose our will on others if they hinder our economic progress? In regards to oil, water rights, minerals, textiles? Invade if someone cuts off our oil, lets say when Venezuela nationalized their oil reserves?

      War should be our last resort, not an option for economic development. I do feel sorry for the arms industry, oh wait, they manufacture wars, their jobs are safe.

    • 1 year ago
  • tylervictoria1
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • tylervictoria1:

      Right, so stay and waste billions and put lives in jeopardy and continue generations of hate and resentment which is what they really want to get the same result. Sounds perfectly logical to me. And if you think "Al Qaeda" is the only reason we are over there now I have some swampland in Florida to sell you. Remember, Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq until we invaded. The same is more than likely true for Afghanistan. And of course, those who make up Al Qaeda were considered our allies in the 80s when Russia was in Afghanistan under Reagan ( who actually called Bin Laden a "freedom fighter" when they started all of this cr**) when we were told we had to fight off the "commie bastards" ( the bogeyman du jour) to "save democracy". People really are easy regarding being fed the propaganda... Fear, fear, fear.

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
  • Monkey_Films
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      Monkey_Films  
    • tylervictoria1:

      Al Qaeda never has and doesn't exist. Nobody call themselves that except CIA. Yes, Iraqis are shown attacking Americans but those are called insurgents. An insurgent is not a terrorist, they are people who don't want strangers with guns in their neighborhoods. What we are fighting in Afghanistan are guess, insurgents. It's easy to call them a name, invade and then show the resistance fighting back and claim that's your proof.

      What if foreigners were using Mt. Rushmore for target practice? Wouldn't you hope some local boys would do their best to stop it?

      The wars we are in are indirectly killing you, my friend. Something is happening to the planet and dropping bombs and driving around 1mph gas guzzling tanks and flying jets everywhere are putting us ALL at greater risk. Let the 'terrorists' be and let's take that money to seed the oceans with fine iron. The result would eliminate most of the CO2 problem that we are having.

    • 1 year ago
  • GodsnLiberals
  • JanforGore
  • jubal
  • bking74
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      bking74  
    • JanforGore:

      We don't want or need ignorant assholes over there with us. Believe it or not the U.S. Military does not want psychos or cowards, that punk would never make it past basic, forget Advanced Infantry. The fool would fail the ASVAB anyways. The U.S. Army does not suffer fools lightly.

    • 1 year ago
  • GodsnLiberals
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      GodsnLiberals  
    • what we need to do is hire cindy sheehan as ambassador of peace. We should send her ass to pakistan to negotiate peace for us..and lets see how far she gets..

      people are tending to forget that we are fighting an perverted type of ideology that would behead the likes of cindy sheehan..

      its a bad case of out of sight and out of mind...she sits comfortably behind the protection of our military..

    • 1 year ago
  • torres_tn
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • torres_tn:

      Well, 2/3 of the world came out to protest the start of the invasion of Iraq... now, it appears that becasue Obama in in the White House war is now OK. I find it to be totally hypocritical and outrageous.

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
  • JanforGore
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Hmm, why is it that the Democrats who were so outspoken against this under Bush are now silent? Hundreds of billions of dollars spent on wars that now seem to be just everyday out of sight out of mind events. Boy, this govenrment sure is good at brainwashing people. Even the media coverage of these 'wars' has dwindled down, because now passing this healthcare bill is all that is going on in the entire world.

    • 1 year ago
  • bking74
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      bking74  
    • JanforGore:

      Thank you for trying to bring attention to the general apathy of the American Public and lack of in-depth media coverage. Regardless of your personal opinion of the "War on Terror", we still have over 80,000 U.S. troops in Iraq and 47,000 troops with more to come in Afghanistan. I fully support the right of the American public to peacefully protest the direction of the war and our President. A sudden and complete withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq and Afghanistan would plunge the entire region into chaos, threatening the security of the entire world. I would like to hear some well thought out plans and ideas then just simple anti-war slogans.

    • 1 year ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • bking74:

      I don't know if it shoulld or could be sudden at this point, but it damned well should be complete. And as for plans, how about us actually doing what we say we need to do regarding weaning ourselves off of foreign oil? How about allowing it's people to truly be able to reclaim their country and their farmland without US AID AND MONSANTO to be able to grow sustainably to have more options for agriculture than just growing poppies? They have nothing else because everything else has been taken from them. Our policies on drugs, oil, and war in general have brought us to this place. Sending troops into these areas accomplishes nothing of real substance. Afghanistan after more than thirty years of war is a wasteland because of it and the longer we are there the more generations will come along to resent us. War does not end terrorism.

    • 1 year ago
  • treewolf39
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      treewolf39  
    • bking74:

      You know as well as anyone that the war on terror with its mandate, will never end. The only way out is to change our thinking. Our CIA will make sure that the american military always has a job. Hearts and minds. The people of the world are the same. We love, live, learn, work, sleep, fight, and fuck. We want safety for our families and food for our tummies and peace with God. Do not pretend that the american military has these interests at heart. Every time a civilian is killed a terrorist is created.

      Accountability would be a start in the right direction. Also our support of Israel needs to stop until they start an honest peace process. Oh and Iran is not the great Satan who would wipe the world out with nuclear weapons.

    • 1 year ago
  • roheasy
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      roheasy  
    • treewolf39:

      everytime a civilian is killed a terrorist is created?? what kinda shit is this do you know how many civilians were killed and how many REAL terrorist there actually are?

    • 1 year ago
  • treewolf39
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      treewolf39  
    • roheasy:

      No, but I do know that they are popping up in our country. Everyone is someones father, mother, brother, sister, son ,and (or) daughter. Someone on this site who I really respect said Fuck with my family and I turn into a Neanderthal. In other words if you kill one of mine all bets are off. Do you think that it is any different for an Iraqi?

    • 1 year ago
  • roheasy
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      roheasy  
    • treewolf39:

      so whose fault is it that their loved ones are dying? if they killed your mom how would you react? sucicide is extreme but going 51 50 aint..you know the wars are bullshit..why are so many veterans (american) killing one self?? they know the truth more than you and i.. but your talking about some corny ass neanderthal remark? terroism is a fucking scare tactic. the taliban is weak iam sorry. they need to be stopped but we got bigger problems in the US..we cant spend billions over seas accomplishing jack shit but trouble

    • 1 year ago
  • treewolf39
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      treewolf39  
    • roheasy:

      Boy I agree with you here. Suicide is a side-affect of mental torture. I would not want to kill anyone for any reason, I think I would have trouble living with myself. I try to respect all life. That being said, there is no way to wipe out terrorism. It has always been a problem to the establishment. The one thing about the people of the middle east is they know how to hold a grudge. I know the wars are bullshit. If our government had been doing their job 911 would never have happened. Where do you think terrorism comes from? Do you have a way to show that we are actually fighting terrorist or is our military just stabilizing a region to acquire its natural resources?

    • 1 year ago
  • bking74
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      bking74  
    • roheasy:

      The recent increase of suicides among U.S. soldiers breaks my heart. The reasons are varied as the individuals who feel so desperate and hopeless that they take their own lives. Some are from multiple deployments, others from destroyed home lives, destructive marriages, massive unemployment and a malaise from soldiers who feel that they have been deceived and lied to by the previous Administration. But, with all due respect to think the Taliban is weak or not a threat is just foolish thinking. The Afghan people are among the most determined, focused and brave soldiers, I have ever faced. Many of their tactics are considered cowardly (but then again how much courage does it take to fly a predator drone) but they will fight to the death with inferior arms when cornered. Their belief in the righteousness of their cause is unshakeable, but they can be defeated. The Taliban must be defeated. The world is not safe with an unstable Pakistan. What's horrible and I question I avoid asking myself is that is our military simply being used as an arm of the Industrial Military Complex to pacify nations for the sole purpose of increasing the profits of these International Corporations.

    • 1 year ago
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