News alert: Tea Party threatens gun violence if Health Insurance Reform bill passes

You have earned it!

I think you should do something to really serve your country. Refuse to serve in an unjust, illegal racist genocidal for-profit war.

But you don't have the balls to do anything that your leaders don't tell you to do. Don't even try to think. You don't have permission.

Violence is not the answer.

i feel it..its really not..but it just pisses me off because i don't understand their agenda...some of these fools do need a good ass kickin tho

Their agenda is to take what the RNC tells it to do and go out and pedal fear to the media. Just like when in 2000 the RNC sent supporters from Washington to Florida to contest the hanging chads. They rioted and broke into the building and made it look like Americans were outraged.

This is the same kind of fake outrage to spread fear and misinformation. The Fox News channel will be covering it all in rabid detail.

You nailed it CaptB.

unless they start it

Abso-fcuking-lutely, fear mongering at it's best.

Like a carpenter on pay day.

yOU SEE THE CAMO HATS, THAT'S ALL i NEED, AND CALLING A SITTING REP A NIGGER, i THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT THEY ARE MADE OF NOW.

thats the only reason why it was included.

and who stops the tyranny of retards, like palin, or beck, or rush, or orielly. Fuck them retards. Promoting fear, just to save the insurance corporations from losing profits. You talk about tyranny, you've never seen tyranny cept on tv, in other countries. Go see the world and then talk. Those guys know, and that makes you the stupid on, because you believe them. They manipulate you and you let them. If you would read the bill, as I have, you would know, it's about as close as you could be to what the GOP resented 14 yrs ago. They fought social security. They fought medicaid. They fought the 8 hour workday and 40 hour workweek. They fought unemployment. The only reason they fought segregation was to try to get the black vote. But poor ppl aren't dumb. We know who helps the poor, and it isn't the gop.

i can't tell if your being serious? your statement is so full of faullacies i can only hope your being sarcastic.

it's not that we think all the people that disagree are ignorant.... but most are. our health care is a horrible state, we need reform. people need to compromise but its hard when politicians have insurance lobbyist throwing money at them. maybe this plan isn't the best but is a step in the right direction.

and people only blame bush for the things he did to put our country in this situation. i think a lot of the people who have problems with the current administration fail to realize that the state our country is in right now is b/c of BUSH and CHENEY.....

Bush did ruin our economy. However, not everyone that is a republican friend of mine is stupid, ignorant, or uninformed. Just retarded...just kidding. We just have different points of view. The democrats just happen to be in charge after what Bush did to our nation. The majority, we the people, voted Obama into office. So it is our turn to make the decisions from the moderate left.

I do not mind if our taxes are increased. We need to pay down the 11 trillion dollar deficit Bush put us in. No matter how healthcare changes some people will be happy and others will complain. I don't know if unemployment will jump though, I don' think there is a correlation with healthcare and unemployment. I think Obama will take another term to get us out of this economic slump we are in and turn it around.

Seriously, I didn't mean to say that republicans are retarded in any way. However, if you could loosen your helmet strap because it is difficult to hear you talk when it is so tight, hahahaha.

And when it works? will all the obstructionist apoligize and admit they were wrong? You've got to see that the main reason conservatives are against this is because if it works, which i think it will, there's no chance they're gonna win elections, but if they keep the stalling tactics up, they can stretch this til 2012, and then say, "see, Democratics couldn't do a damn thing, vote em out"

Your taxes will only rise if you make 250,000 dollars annually...as an individual. Even then, it is only a 3.8% increase. There's also an excise tax of 10% on tanning bed services. Strange, but true.

Other than that, nothing will "soar." So...read the bill before you insult it, mk?

Well, duh! Obama didn't create this mess. I realize that doesn't matter now, but why in the world are people angry at the person who is actually on their side? Time will show what I'm saying and all the threats in the world are just a JOKE. Just like thes people. Pathetic excuses for human beings.

dont say that; many world leaders have been assassinated. some are willing to make sacrifices for what they believe in, and if that means they have to kill someone and go to jail for the rest of their life or getting the death penalty then they just might do it...

now i would never wish death on anyone, its just that-thats been human history since the dawn of man... so dont say people aren't willing to make that sacrifice.

Jon who are trying to fool, yourself or others. No way do you have even an ounce of personal bravery to sacrifice yourself for anything. Please, stick to blogging.

11 years of military service and five scud attacks all for U.S. imperialism mean nothing? Fuck you.

Only when Muslims do it. White people are allowed to do whatever they want.

freedom of speech and exercising your 2nd amendment isn't domestic terrorism. has a shot been fired? or are you proposing thought police?

i was just asking..... never know....the patriot act has stripped away a lot of our rights...

but as stated when its a bunch of white rednecks with guns it is not a threat..... i don't think their freedom of speech was questioned. they have the right to say any ignorant thing they want. even if it is technically threatening the life of the president.(which is not covered by "freedom of speech")

are they fucking serious.... these people are fucking IDIOTS . "we dont want healthcare reform b/c we dont know why." Fox news and glenn beck told us to hate it.
gotta love the guy w/the GW Bush hat on...he definitely knows what is going on.lol

See... there's a direct correlation between intellect and "conservatism".

"I don't know"

OMG! purple kool-aid, Fox news, little blue death pills, even if we do reform health care, you can't cure stupid.

The ignorance is RAMPANT!!! They need to shoot themselves in the foot. I wonder where they got these ideas from...Faux Comedy Channel? Too bad none of them can READ for themselves. Well, at least comprehend.

Guess what? Health care reform will lower your health insurance premiums. By insuring those who now use the emergency rooms as a last resort when their health gets out of control and then need critical care instead of regular preventive care, we will all spend less money on health care. You are paying for these people already in hidden costs to your insurance. This bill will not raise your taxes or your premiums. It will lower them.

Wake up.

I hear you John...footin the bill with you, and the thing is, the government isn't about to filter some of that 65% of the budget away from the DOD to fund this, they're going to find ways to pilfer even more out of our paychecks, and I'm not against health care reform, I'm just not so sure our government is capable of reforming anything, especially their own insatiate appetites for spending our money.

They are listening to your voice. In the form of a vote, and your vote adds up to electing someone that you feel conveys your ideas. You might have to concede a few things if your candidate doesn't agree with you on 100% of the issues. Or you could run for office, but it is pricey. Joe the Plumber was an average guy (Making over $300,000 a year in charge of his own plumbing company) that tried to make a go of it.

I don't want to upset you more. But go online and look what our budget is spent on for the past 50-60 years. How much we spend on TARP dollars, military, roads, everything. The pork barrel projects seem insignificant when you see BILLIONS of dollars spent on things.

We need fiscal responsibility, but who decides how the money is spent? YOUR VOTE. Your voice.

A breath of fresh air. Someone with a brain.

What I'd like to say is: They'll just have to let you opt out of the government. Oh, and don't use our roads with your car too. Get it?

they were all in love w/bush......

Exactly! You are so correct. For the most part they are KKK.

Actually Cuba has health care for all. Their health care system is better than that in the U.S. We allow 45,000 to die for lack of health care every year. That's 15 times the number that died in 9/11, multiplied by every year that passes without health care reform. This is the third world of health care in America.
http://gothealthcaremovie.com

I think it is YOU my friend who should go.

And Cuba gives all of its citizens health care. Hmmmm.

Well JohnA, we are going to have to tax you one way or another. So if you don't help pay for it up front, you will be charged in the end.

Just think, if you work 62 hours a week you can help support 3 kids from...just kidding. I know you work hard for you money. I am assuming that you get taxed between 15-20% of your income and there many things that you don't agree with how the government spends your money. I do think we do need more social programs like the European countries. I think we need to cut down on our military spending and homeland security and invest a portion of that into the FBI.

The budget is a huge concern for most of us. Whoever is in charge decides how we will spend the 4 trillion a year. We are currently 11 trillion in debt. I don't think tax cuts are going to get us out of this mess. I fear we may have to raise taxes in the future to get us out of our debt.

I will take it in the end, that's for sure. And I'm pretty sure which end it will be.

Maybe it makes life better for people with NO HEALTHCARE. Can you possibly think of anyone else besides yourself?

This plan does not raise anyone's taxes. The plan pays for itself largely through reform of health insurance corrupt and criminal practices.

Why confuse people with the truth. You are absolutely right, it does not raise taxes. No one wants to help out though, and no one wants to pay taxes unless it helps them personally.

HAHAHA, you will get used to it. You may not even notice after about 10 years, hahaha.

that's the plan on paper jon, but it has to be enforced to work, and God, look at all of the things the federal government runs now and how well they enforce when it comes to corporate crime, and let's be honest, it is the corporate crime that has caused the current mess we are in. The only government run program I know of that works like a well-oiled machine is the IRS, but that's only if you are a working citizen. If you are a corporation, or born with a silver spoon in your mouth, Helmsley said it best, "taxes are for the little people."

let me say this clearly so it might get thruogh. "WE DON'T WANT FREE!!! WE WANT AFFORDABLE!!!'

You're already paying for the millions of uninsured people that go to the emergency room so they don't have to pay. Funny world, yes?

You picked the wrong bill to support in that case.

Boo hoo, poor you. Listen, you're not the only one who works their tail off and pays taxes. But you really don't get it. People go to emergency rooms now and the taxpayers pay big bucks for that. There's a much more intelligent way to distribute health care. Only losers deny their own people health care.

THAT is funny

It's still funny...

I have it up, too.

XD

They have been led to believe 'fear' works. Fortunately the law is on our side. Use their guns and go to jail. Threaten violence and go to jail. When cannabis is reclassified, our government will need new 'meat', somewhere to get houses, cars and money. Maybe they can start collecting from 'radical' teabaggers, crooked bankers, crooked health insurance company executives, cheating stock brokers, the list goes on.

It's time to get tough with the actual criminals, or wanna be criminals in America. Take their personal posessions. It worked in the 'war on drugs'. Even if it didn't, it did help the coffers in America. We could use the cash!

Conniepae two thumbs up right on! The new war on ignorance I'm with you all the way baby.

perfect timing, now that's irony.

well said.

While I agree with the sentiment theoretically. I have to say that "Individual Liberty good, Corporate Power (less individual Liberty) Baaaad" is as much a truism.

I agree. Mind you, it is impossible for Corporations to get huge without Government getting in bed with them and creating favorable laws, which is inevitable in our republic turned democracy (mob rule). Dems and Reps get money from the Corporations in exchange for favorable legislation that benefits nobody but the Corporations, Unions, lawyer etc...this is anything but Capitalism (free markets) it is Fascism. There is no difference between Government, Corporations, Unions, Lawyers etc. It is one group stealing as much as they can from those who belong to no group. The good thing is Economics is real...and economic reality is a law of the universe which we are now witnessing. I will rephrase my og statement to- as government (corporations, unions, etc) increases in size and power Individual liberty decreases. I believe in separation of Everything and State. viva life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness.

Anarchist?

Putting anyone in the dirt won't accomplish anything. Though they are morons for thinking that they will actually get to the president, wishing them to take a dirt nap is stooping to their ignorant level.
I would imagine there's a direct correlation to their intellect and their infantile ideologies.

American's these days don't have the balls for a "civil war". Even if they did, it would be retarded... what are they fighting for? Pepsi vs. Coke?!

I'm only saying if they are threatening gun violence then so be it, those who wish to bring out your guns will die in your boots especially for this ignorance.

Yeah, they reap what they sow, live by the gun, die by the gun would be deserving, but when I read your post I guess I interpreted it incorrectly.

That's your opinion. My point was people will need to actually see it cause ruin in their daily life for such an action. The bill hasn't even passed yet! Don't get me wrong... I'm against the bill, but I'm against it for my own reasons. (I think it's a payday for private insurance, and that it won't help. Single-payer is the only worthwhile solution.) But when they stop and think about fighting, they will realize it's pepsi vs coke.

Yep that does happen quite a bit! But you got my drift after all is said and done.

"Do you think people actually vote for who they think will do the best or vote because of what they see on the TV?"

Yes I do, that's how the 2 party system works. It's Pepsi vs Coke. You can vote for the State Capitalist who believes in abortion rights, or the State Capitalist who is mostly pro-life.

That's also how the tea-bag movement worked. You can't honestly believe this would be happening if McCain won.

I do believe people will wait to see what happened before they react. Sure there are some that won't, but for a full scale civil war? Please. People aren't willing to die for this. They hold their signs in protest, but when they hit 65 they'll be wondering where their social security and medicare is.

About Obama getting elected, you answered your own question. On TV, he promised everything the people wanted, and is now under delivering... that's why it's ratings suck. It's not because of this, but because of everything he promised, he's NOT doing.

I agree, some people may react, but their numbers will be very few.

Scott, I realize alot has happened to you over the last two years but you don't seem yourself. More like the Scott Summers of the early part of the decade. You have already fought though a Civil War, an attack on your species and now live openly in San Fran. Scott don't forget your the undisputed leader of mutant kind now, get it together.