Community | March 21, 2010 | 24 comments

GWB speechwriter Frum describes huge mistake Republicans made on healthcare reform.

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George W Bush speechwriter David Frum describes the huge mistake the Right Wing, assailed by wing nuts and Fox newz made in failing to compromise on healthcare reform.
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24 comments // GWB speechwriter Frum describes huge mistake Republicans made on healthcare reform.

  • Ricky84
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      Ricky84  
    • Great video. Made a lot of good points and added a bit of perspective. This is the type of stuff that belongs on the front page.

    • 1 year ago
  • ocanada
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      ocanada  
    • It is true that this is a conservative piece of legislation. It maintains the private insurance system while giving them a mandate for care something A.H.I.P. has been lobbying for now in at least the past two decades. This bill bares more in common with Mit Romney's plan in Massachusetts, Lincoln Chaffee's counterproposal's to Hillarycare, and the counterproposal this year drafted by Paul Begalla, Bob Dole, and Tom Daschle. Today the sky didn't cave in. Fire and brimstone didn't rain down and now Democrats can run on actually achieving the most difficult plank of the party platform.

      All republicans now have to run on in the midterm is a teabagging movement that spat on representatives John Lewis a civil rights pioneer who marched arm and arm with Martin Luther King Jr. and Andre Carson who has faced more discrimination in the last decade as a muslim that they would spit on them and chant nigger in 2010 not 1960 is beyond belief. Mike Pence is from Indiana, the same as Representative Carson. Pence spoke out with the teabag protesters only hours before they were spitting, cursing, and chanting Nigger at his fellow congressman from Indiana and he thinks he can distance himself from those comments while he wraps himself in a teabag!!!! No he can not. He needs to be maid to pay! He will pay, he must pay. There is a fury building that he has decided to foment and he will pay! H will inherit the fury of wind and it will be soon. We will see how history treats a legacy of hate versus a legacy of inclusion and accomplishment.

    • 1 year ago
  • unimatrix0
  • diabolical44
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      diabolical44  
    • saw this live on msnbc yesterday and I was shocked to hear it. I think this is a case of a republican taking a step back and realizing that republicans are going to be down in history on the wrong side of history. Just like civil rights, social security, and many other progressive movements have judged them on the wrong side of history. The record will show that republicans offered no ideas or concepts what so ever. They brought nothing to the table and should absolutely be ashamed of themselves.

      Politicians are sent to Washington to get things done. The republican party has set getting re-elected and getting back in power as their main objective.

    • 1 year ago
  • tommic
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      tommic  
    • The insurance carriers by virtue of their outlandish premium increases are sealing their own fate. A public option will emerge. Even lawmakers in Washington D.C. cannot condone these increases. These increases are bringing state budgets to their knees with huge state deficits emerging. Single payer would be best, health care insurance should not try to carry the same profit lines as life, disability, homeowners or car insurance. Had the insurance companies been not quite as greedy they would have never faced this day. Public option first with single payer eventually. Its just a matter of time.

    • 1 year ago
  • diabolical44
  • blackheartman
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      blackheartman  
    • diabolical44:

      Oh, is that in the same way that we thought the Patriot act would be repealed by now or allowed to expire? The same way we thought we would be out of Iraq by now? The same way that we thought that Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Rice, etc. would be held accountable for their criminal actions by now? The same way that we thought all of this illegal surveillance would be brought to an end by now? The same way that we thought habeus corpus rules would be re-established for all by now?

      Gee, I guess you have a different take on that old saying: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twenty or thirty times, and I'll keep believing you."

    • 1 year ago
  • blackheartman
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      blackheartman  
    • I have no problem throwing my money into the pot for the good of the commons. I have a very big problem, however, being forced to throw my money into the profit pot of the insurance industry. Let's not muddy the waters here, corporatecrats. This bill hands it all away to the insurance industry. As I read in an inciteful comment at another site: the two main thrusts of the bill are the public mandate and no denial for pre-existing conditions. So let's see, it boils down to 1)We are being forced to become customers of a for profit industry and 2)they must allow us to patronize them.

      By the way, according to the bill, an insurance company can STILL DENY someone for a pre-existing condition, but they must pay a fine if they do. Hmmm, let's see, I think I'd trade paying a few small fines in exchange for 30,000,000 new customers.

    • 1 year ago
  • neocongo
  • brit50
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      brit50  
    • Failing to compromise!!!!!! If anyone is failing to compromise, it's the Democrats and Obama. No wonder Republicans stood against this healthcare bill, it is a huge spending bill along with no written agreements on abortion.

    • 1 year ago
  • kennymotown
  • observer2121
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      observer2121  
    • brit50:

      Obama held a meeting where republicans had a chance to give their input and the only thing they offered was to tear up the legislation they had already passed and to start over. They had nothing to offer. Obama signed legislation stating that no federal dollars would support abortion. This is a bill that will help people have access to healthcare for that I am willing to spend more in taxes if need be. Stay in Texas.

    • 1 year ago
  • lilysol
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      lilysol  
    • Very true observations (from GWB's speechwriter? lol). Though I have no interest in the Republican fallout after legislation passes (demote all the crazies), intelligent checks and balances from Republicans would have benefited healthcare reform, but instead they demonized the President and the bill and shook their fists like the grumpy old men they are. I don't know that they'll regret it though. They can continue to spout anger and hate until they get reelected and beat out some Dems in the next election. They'll then take credit for the positive after effects of reform.

    • 1 year ago
  • neocongo
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      neocongo  
    • Cynical left or cynical right, we know, we know, it's not perfect. It's not legislation that by far, is going to please everyone. But it is a God Damn start, and it's taken decades to get here, so deal with it.

    • 1 year ago
  • common_sense_please
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      common_sense_please  
    • This post points out the major problem everybody outside the Beltway has with this legislation that is supposedly health care reform.

      The Republicans started out with good intentions--they just overplayed their hand and now the Democrats feel like they have to mount a giant push back and pass this really crappy bill so they can prove they have the majority and can pass other bills if necessary.

      The whole thing is just a bunch of crap now because NOBODY from EITHER party really cares about reforming health care -- instead they are worried about padding their re-election campaigns and writing the attack ads they will use against their opponents.

    • 1 year ago
  • kennymotown
  • Daniel_Peddicord
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      Daniel_Peddicord  
    • kennymotown:

      it's nice to see a level head. No legislation is perfect, and they all got pork, so let it all settle out and we will see if America is going to explode because of one bill. It never has before, so I'm not concerned...

    • 1 year ago
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  
    • Daniel_Peddicord:

      Thanks Daniel for your complement. It will of course take time to fix it and we need more help from politicians not afraid to do the right thing. The Government after all is us, you and me and our neighbors. Democracy moves slowly at times but right now I feel proud to have invested so much time and energy to accomplishing something that will begin to make a difference. Everyone here on current has helped in the debate at times it has gotten heated and I'm sure it will be heated in the future, but thats democracy. Elections have consequences for us all and getting involved at the political level is our job as citizens. We can not afford to sit back and let crooks and liars run the show, join a party right or left it will make a difference. And as my favorite talk show host Thom Hartman ends his show everyday, "Tag your it"

    • 1 year ago
  • Chique
  • kennymotown
  • neocongo
  • kennymotown
    • +3
      kennymotown  
    • It has been my belief this choice the Republicans have made to stand in the way of reform will end up costing them votes for years to come.

    • 1 year ago
  • observer2121
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