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Christian In Pakistan Burned Alive, Wife Raped By Police, Because They Refused To Convert To Islam

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The persecution of Christians in Pakistan is becoming very brutal and very deadly. The truth is that it is no longer safe to be a Christian in Pakistan anymore. A Christian man in Pakistan's Punjab province is literally fighting for his life after radical Muslim leaders, backed by police, burned him alive for refusing to convert to Islam while his wife was raped by police officers. This incident, which took place on March 19th, is just the latest in a series of deadly attacks on Christians in Pakistan.
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284 comments // Christian In Pakistan Burned Alive, Wife Raped By Police, Because They Refused To Convert To Islam

  • corndog67
  • DRudeBoy
  • DRudeBoy
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      DRudeBoy  
    • God be with this man, I hope he and his wife survive and find strength in this experience. I hope the people who did this are brought to justice.

    • 2 years ago
  • Kelly61
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      Kelly61  
    • Funny how all our efforts to "make the world safer" seem to have the opposite effect. I don't remember this sort of thing happening before we started trying to "influence" the region.

    • 2 years ago
  • keithponder
  • Napalm814
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      Napalm814  
    • Im just as annoyed by Christians as the next guy, but thats pretty absurd. Imagine what they'd have done to one of those Mormon door-to-door missionaries. Crazy world...

    • 2 years ago
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  • Omnomynous
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      Omnomynous  
    • Who was it said: "this is because of people doing something horrible in the name of religion... ", that's about it. There isn't one of the 3 major religions that advocate any manner of violence, they all teach against it as do their prophets. Religion can be a bad thing a tool used to manipulate and control, and all kinds of evil granted, but not everyone who practices or follows an organized religion is a bad person or a completely ignorant sheep. I hope that trying to stereotype, and being intolerant of those who find some kind of peaceful meaning in religion, makes those of you doing it feel better. And even if it were total bullshit (religion) why try to piss on some peaceful persons' security blanket?

    • 2 years ago
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    • Omnomynous:

      So they might take heed - and think - and do themselves a favor and throw religion off.

      Just throw off the bad baggage. Get free. Free as the sweet air.

    • 2 years ago
  • dariusvons
  • corndog67
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      corndog67  
    • Omnomynous:

      The majority of religions brainwash their constiuents (slaves?). The basic premise of most religions is that "WE" are the right ones, the other are misguided. And Muslims are trying to rule the world. If that isn't obvious to you, I'm sorry, you can't be helped.

    • 2 years ago
  • artemis6
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      artemis6  
    • Omnomynous:

      Because being raised in that security blanket deprives many of the ability to be truly autonomous in the moral choices they make . It is called Decidophobia . Clinging to external rules for personal conduct does not a moral person make . Personal integrity and inner moral compass , does . That requires growing up with independent thought , and critical thinking skills . Which are purposely stunted in religion , by the requirement of FAITH .

    • 2 years ago
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • "A Christian couple in Pakistan was sentenced to 25 years in prison for touching the Quran without properly washing their hands first." Now if only we could bring that level of dedication to cleanliness to the food industry...

    • 2 years ago
  • dariusvons
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    • dariusvons:

      They get nutty! No bullshit. They think anyone maligning that book should be done away with. I saw some Muslim businessmen interviewed and asked that exact question.
      They were matter of fact - just a normal and correct way of life for them, such people should killed immediately - no more thought than that.

    • 2 years ago
  • dariusvons
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      ha! i'm starting a campaign to convert all qurans and bibles into toilet paper... also, I'm going to broadcast videos of myself and others using the books for TP, bird cage liners, paper towels...

    • 2 years ago
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    • dariusvons:

      Make a series of them for YouTube. Saturate the public mind. Maybe you'll make a difference.
      Maybe you'll get famous.
      Maybe you'll marry a movie star!

      May-be

    • 2 years ago
  • dariusvons
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      maybe i'd be famous enough to get a fatwa calling for my death? could I be so lucky? I'm sure I could make up some sort of religious thing (just as they do) saying it's within my rights to follow my religious beliefs and a tennant of my faith is that qurans and bibles are the only thing holy or 'clean' enought to wipe this royal ass... I think I could pull it off.

    • 2 years ago
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  • eden49
  • eden49
  • eden49
  • Toughth
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • Religion once again proves it is one of the most powerful sources of human idiocy... Good luck to the man who was burned. I hope he can survive without too much disfigurement.

    • 2 years ago
  • fun_size
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    • UrbanGypsy:

      Uhhh sorry to say those are some terrible looking burns across his head and upper torso. Chances are he will be horribly disfigured as a result of his injuries... if he even lives. I know im kind of a downer but it is what it is...

    • 2 years ago
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  • KSirys
  • AmericanStandard
  • Confucius
  • vaxart
  • dariusvons
  • artemis6
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  • jon_foshee
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    • jon_foshee:

      Anyone who has seen any religion posts in the last spell of time has had to put up with my varying proscriptions against religions. I see the universe as the creator/creation (and for good reason) and all notions of "God" other than that are ridiculous human thoughts and nothing else.

      We have humans imagining deities inside one huge reality, that seems to go on forever and ever, in which all 'things' are contextually equal. Meaning we are no more important than a gas bubble on Titan.

      So "God" for most people is a cartoon. And I suppose because mommy told them it is real, they place their personal worth in believing it.

      But it's only a cartoon and exists no where else in the Universe -at all. Just little ideas in little minds.

      Islam is one of the religions. And apparently has a penchant for such crimes as are described here. The Christians haven't been doing this particular kind of stuff for some time.

    • 2 years ago
  • artemis6
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    • artemis6:

      I wrote him a letter, once. I said for him to imagine himself as a squash plant. It grows out of the soil, lets out leaves all over and flowers, - which become squash; which rot and spill their seeds and then fold up and die away - but a new squash plant arises the next year.
      But to then speed up the notion to 300 generations - of plants rising up, twisting and wriggling around and dying away, one after the other. Realizing that we are like one of those generations - and realizing that there is no beginning nor ending to the generations, rising up, dancing and dying away.

      Because he also would fall back into the hope that -maybe- there'd be God up there.

      But everything's God. And none of us will beat fate - because it is God - and we are but a temporary dance, dancing the dance.

    • 2 years ago
  • artemis6
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      Very cool . The poets and mystics have for thousands of years expressed that same thing . What need have I of "faith" or religion , when I have experience ?

    • 2 years ago
  • Dejan_Croatia
  • EmperorThan
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      EmperorThan  
    • AGAIN, like my comment on the last article. NOT REALLY NEWS.

      As in 'new'. This is NORMAL for that region. If you want to be any religion you want MOVE TO AMERICA. If you don't move to America you are subject to the fucked up fucking fuck fuck laws of that region that you live and we can't help you...

    • 2 years ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • KSirys
  • Bushido
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    • KSirys:

      You pray for his family, the perps will pray to have this man and his family smited. Let's see who is answered first...if anyone.

      Maybe it's like other mythical things and the magical prayers will nullify one another.

    • 2 years ago
  • KSirys
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      KSirys  
    • Bushido:

      wow... relax all knowing one.. I don't pray or follow a religion. But I do respect everyones beliefs and choices. If i'm going to pray and probably just say a few words, it's going to be for something that's going to help others.

      So relax with the bullshit comment...

    • 2 years ago
  • Almibry
  • Bushido
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      Bushido  
    • KSirys:

      Religion has yet to justify its existence on Earth. Catholic Priests molesting children*the crusades+suicide bombers, multiplied by the inquisition, times the rationalization of any action no matter how despicable, added to the stifling of hundreds of years of potential scientific progress does not justify all the art in the Sistine Chapel.

      I am not here to say whether God exists or not, but even I know that if he does, our interpretation of his message is fucked.

      Forgive me for knocking your well-intentioned, if not superstitious, gesture towards the aggrieved, I just fail to see how a prayer to the same God who allowed this man's wife to be brutally raped in his name is going to change his apparent feelings of indifference as a result of even your sincerest pleas.

    • 2 years ago
  • keithponder
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    • Bushido:

      Because you fail to see how prayer works is your problem and nobody else's.God didn't burn this man up.

      Prayer, and spirituality were here long before religion and the word we call 'God' was.

      That 'God' word is not even 1,000 years old yet.

    • 2 years ago
  • Bushido
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      Bushido  
    • keithponder:

      It's not my business when it is private, but he made it my business by putting it out there on a public forum. As such, I am now free to express my disdain for the appeasement of mythical deities.

      Besides, religion should be discussed critically when it begins to interfere with the way the rest of society conducts day-to-day business. We will never evolve as a species if we continue to justify every heinous action with religion.

      The last time I checked we have the Texas school board changing texts to be more religious (which affects all of our children), gays unable to marry, suicide bombers killing people in the name of religion, and small sects of the population making world altering decisions based on religious convictions like "the world is only 6,000 years old" or "Obama is the antichrist".

    • 2 years ago
  • Bushido
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      Bushido  
    • keithponder:

      Yep because before that we had Zeus and other pagan deities that people used as justification to commit atrocities.

      I see how prayer and religion works, as did Freud when he wrote that “there is no distinctively religious need – only psychological need” and “If ever there was a case of a lame excuse we have it here. Ignorance is ignorance; no right to believe anything can be derived from it.”

      Spirituality is great, but that can be pursued without religion and without God. People can join yoga or a philosophy class if they feel the urge - and no one gets murdered, burnt alive, or raped!

    • 2 years ago
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    • Bushido:

      Yeah, I think if people want to feel good, they should go out to an over-look. Over the ocean, or over a river, or over a field - top of a mountain - or just the hill out back. Sit there. Listen. Quiet down for a moment.

    • 2 years ago
  • keithponder
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      Yeah, I think if people want to feel good, they should go out to an over-look. Over the ocean, or over a river, or over a field - top of a mountain - or just the hill out back. Sit there. Listen. Quiet down for a moment.

      Once again, how do you justify trying to tell some one else how to get in touch with their inner self. Both you and Bushido are just practicing control.

    • 2 years ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • Bushido:

      "It's not my business when it is private, but he made it my business by putting it out there on a public forum. As such, I am now free to express my disdain for the appeasement of mythical deities."

      It's still not your place to try and tell an individual what faith they do or don not have the right to practice, what can believe in or whether they can pray or not. That's called CONTROL.. A public forum gives you the right to discuss you personal or collective beliefs or lack there of.

      You or I don't always ways know what's best for ourselves, so when did we figure what's best for everybody else ?

    • 2 years ago
  • KSirys
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      KSirys  
    • Bushido:

      You don't have to understand and you don't have to see the logic in it. But I was raised Catholic and believe the magical being in the sky is only there for a reason and that reason is for others to use him for their own purpose.

      My Aunt is the most loving person in the world and she's catholic. But i don't go around questioning her belief or put her down, when she's been raised one way and believes that one day, the fairy in the sky is going to come down and get her. I don't need to question her, attack her or make her make me believe in what she believes. You know why? because it's call RESPECT and FREEDOM OF CHOICE!

      As for me, if I decide to pray to Zeus, Satan or even Clinton, I have the right to do so. If you choose to debate me on it, sure... why not, lets do so. It's your right to question my belief, but when you question me, trust me... i will question your acts from now and your logic as well.

      Lets see if you like it when someone is questioning your beliefs, or when all your doing is making a statement or sharing...

    • 2 years ago
  • KSirys
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      KSirys  
    • Almibry:

      Don't know, but if you're going to do so, don't do it because i'm going to wish him well... do it because you mean it... or are you just posting to attract attention?

    • 2 years ago
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  • KSirys
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      KSirys  
    • This is sad, but as fun_size and iloveflynn said before... this is because of people doing something horrible in the name of religion...

      I hope they find these people and hang them... it's not enough and their peers probably won't do much to them, but at least they will no longer think that their religion is beyond human Law!

    • 2 years ago
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    • KSirys:

      That's exactly what won't happen. They are being good Muslims as far as their peers are concerned.
      They feel pretty good about what they did.

    • 2 years ago
  • BIGDADDYMELVIN
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    • BIGDADDYMELVIN:

      Since people are people, what is your agenda? -That you'd think appropriate for others? Remember, everybody has to go and make their own mistakes and see why they were mistakes - for them.
      That means, you're lucky to teach by example alone. And a good example is what people might remember.

    • 2 years ago
  • mr_tibbles
  • Confucius
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      Confucius  
    • BIGDADDYMELVIN:

      like glen beck, you continue to try to divide people by making assumptions about the attitude of "current" as a single entity... you dont have to be religious to see that anyone getting burned alive if fucked up and barbaric in this day and age. i dont know why i bother commenting on current articles anyway, not very many people seem to view them

    • 2 years ago
  • keithponder
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    • BIGDADDYMELVIN:

      Yeah. Damn CURRENT. They would allow a trolling idiot moron jerk like you to remain on this site. You attack everybody and you've never made a constructive positive comment about anything , while others get run off.

      You must be a plant. Why are you still here ?

      Why aren't your comments ever removed ?

    • 2 years ago
  • Rodashar
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      Rodashar  
    • @fun_size You believe the inclusion of these peoples religious affiliation is some how irrelevant to the conversation?? The entire article is about how these people were victimized because they would not denounce their beliefs. The message would have been the same had it been Catholicism or Judaism.... bottom line their religion gave the desire and excuse to carry out such a terrible act. Show me a single religion that can coexist with the standards of the international community. Where no ones life is worth more than any others and every person has the same basic rights and privileges. It is a fact that Muslim extremest are among the most violent people on the planet.

      We can sit here a debate these peoples social standing and poverty but that just makes them more susceptible to the lies of this backward and extremely harmful religion. We cannot allow people to run around killing whom ever they choose in the name of their religions. it has to stop somewhere. These people did nothing wrong... unless you believe they deserved to be beaten, raped and burned for having a slightly different belief system.

      Way to stand up for the extremist but where would the internet be with out trolls like you.

    • 2 years ago
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • Rodashar:

      I think it was the fact that your article ended with, "The reality is that the persecution of the last days is only just beginning. Millions more Christians will be tortured and millions more will be killed before all of this is over. Are you ready to give your life for the Messiah? There may come a day when someone will kill you if you do not deny your faith. Now is the time to decide what you will do when faced with that choice and now is the time to get yourself mentally prepared for what is coming." that led fun_sized to believe that this article was biased to favor Christians and single out extremist Muslims. That was the impression I got after reading it anyway, it sounds very much like the "poor Christian" line that gets played over and over.

    • 2 years ago
  • fun_size
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      fun_size  
    • Rodashar:

      Did you actually read my post or was it too long for you to finish?

      "This is a terrible incident however and i hope the offenders get whats coming to them. Humans can do horrible unimaginable things to one another in the name of religion."

      These are the last two lines of my post. Obviously im not standing up for people who burn others alive and rape women. The thing is look who posted this story. Their name is Revelation an obvious allusion to Christian beliefs. This post is meant to make Muslims look bad... people post these weekly. Plus im an atheist... i think all organized religions are scams to funnel money and power to the select few. So actually i think you agree with me...

      For future reference there is a handy "reply" button at the bottom of each post. You dont need to do an @ thing to respond to my post.

    • 2 years ago
  • corndog67
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    • fun_size:

      Muslims are making themselves look bad by not policing themselves. The know who the terrorists are. The authorities in Pakistan know who the people that are killing the Christians are, but since they are Muslims themselves, hey, no problem.

    • 2 years ago
  • dariusvons
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    • corndog67:

      it's that whole dicotomy... 'they came and killed the jews, and I said nothing, for I was not a jew. they came and killed the blacks, and I said nothing, for I am not black. they came and killed the kurds, and I said nothing, for I am no kurd." the problem is that this apathy allows them to do it to anybody, and sooner or later they will come for you.

    • 2 years ago
  • fun_size
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      fun_size  
    • Gotta love these single out the Muslim extremist posts. There are over a BILLION Muslims around the world. Many live in some of the poorest nations on Earth and have little to no education. It doesnt mean that every Muslim is a crazed murderous person who wants to kill the non-believers.

      This is a terrible incident however and i hope the offenders get whats coming to them. Humans can do horrible unimaginable things to one another in the name of religion.

    • 2 years ago
  • corndog67
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    • fun_size:

      The offenders? In Pakistan? They'll get what's coming to them, they'll be made a general in the army, or King, or Prime Minister or some other happy horseshit. When everyone there agrees with you, I guess that makes you the King.

    • 2 years ago
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