Community | March 26, 2010 | 46 comments

Zimbabwe PM Morgan Tsvangirai rejects gay rights move

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"I totally agree with the president," he said, state media report.
Homosexual acts are currently illegal in Zimbabwe. Mr Mugabe once said gays were "worse than pigs and dogs", sparking international condemnation.
Gay rights has become a controversial issue in several African countries in recent months.
Mr Tsvangirai joined his long-time rival Mr Mugabe in a power-sharing government a year ago but relations between the two men remain tense..."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8588548.stm
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46 comments // Zimbabwe PM Morgan Tsvangirai rejects gay rights move

  • ryan8566
    • +2
      ryan8566  
    • i make no apology for my 'typical sense of disgust'. the topic was of the torture and beheading of homosexuals....where would you draw the line...asians, catholics, moslems, italians, etc?

    • 2 years ago
  • HellastOne
  • HellastOne
  • perspectives
  • observer2121
    • -3
      observer2121  
    • In Zimbabwe it would be political suicide to support this issue. No matter what you may truly think a politician must not support gay rights. Just like in America a politician is dead meat if he is an atheist.

    • 2 years ago
  • chinese_democracy
  • ryan8566
  • HellastOne
  • HellastOne
    • -1
      HellastOne  
    • Lets Just F*n Face it Being Gay is just Wanting to Have (Unnatural) Sex with someone of the Same sex because thats what Tickles your Funny bones... THAT IS IT! nothing More and Nothing Less... Does One Think thats Gross?.. Does one have the Right to Judge?.. Gay simply Means Sex... whos Cares who has Sex with who... as Long as it Doesn't interfere with the Normal lives of the "Normal" People around them... until someone Could Prove that Gays Specifically help Spread waves of disease i Say let them have at it... in The Comfort and stability found behind Closed and locked doors... shut windows... so as to not and insult... man this world F*kn G3Y!...

    • 2 years ago
  • feetoot
  • ryan8566
    • +2
      ryan8566  
    • "controversial"? yeah, i'd say torture and beheading of people for who they are
      fits that!
      it sucks that 'their relationship is tense'...been there!...maybe some counseling
      is in order, before they call it quits.

    • 2 years ago
  • Dersex
  • tylervictoria1
  • Neudx
  • tylervictoria1
    • +4
      tylervictoria1  
    • Neudx:

      definitly, just kill the gays and let the children starve. I'm really starting to love contemporary african culture. Just to let you know, before the "white man" came, homosexuality was commonplace in a lot of african tribes. what you see now is just a regurgitation of what evangelicals have been pushing down their throats for so many years

    • 2 years ago
  • Dersex
  • tylervictoria1
  • tylervictoria1
  • artemis6
  • UrbanGypsy
    • +4
      UrbanGypsy  
    • The whole continent of Africa still has a LONG way to go. Its not just economic and political backwardness, but social backwardness.

    • 2 years ago
  • Neudx
    • -2
      Neudx  
    • UrbanGypsy:

      Every country and continent have their personal view of things.... what is normal to us, they might think is taboo like being gay is taboo to a lot of countries but that doesn't mean the country is backward.

    • 2 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
    • +1
      UrbanGypsy  
    • Neudx:

      I think it is backward when you have to resort to punishing homosexuality with death, like is happening in Uganda. Now the rest of those countries want to follow with similar laws. If that isn't backwardness then what is?

    • 2 years ago
  • ryan8566
  • randallr01
  • ryan8566
  • RaceBannon
    • -2
      RaceBannon  
    • can we lay off africa? Who helped messed it up in the first place, come on someone say it? All the racist (well so far just "the racist") are coming out to bash the country as savage, and all the progressives are there to make pretentious self masturbatory comments about africa being un-accepting. Well ask yourselves who made africa into this religious, cultural machismo mess? Who benefits from africa being a nation of idiots? Answer those questions and you'll find the solution.

    • 2 years ago
  • liveBK
    • +5
      liveBK  
    • RaceBannon:

      wow. First off, Africa is not a nation. Secondly, Africa is not full of idiots. Yes, the slave trade and colonialism, and post-colonial moral negligence have been and continue to be extremely detrimental to much of Africa. However, that does not in any way make gross human rights violations okay or excuse dictators from responsibility for their actions.

    • 2 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
    • +1
      UrbanGypsy  
    • RaceBannon:

      Hey nobody is pointing a gun to their heads. If they want to be taken seriously, they need to stop blaming others and start showing that they are responsible for themselves. That includes homophobia...

      Hiding behind the mask of imperialism, colonialism and state sovereignty is what incompetent and abusive regimes do to justify the things they do.

      The Europeans who they spend their entire time blaming for their problems almost all respect human rights and defend the rights of homosexuals.

    • 2 years ago
  • RaceBannon
    • +2
      RaceBannon  
    • liveBK:

      i meant to correct the nation thing, but I am in a hotel right now my wifi connection along with my patience for spell checking is pretty limited at the moment.

      As for my comments I'm not excusing anything, but I try to see where the problem lies. Its not like africa is going to come out of the cultural dark ages per say just because we did, but of course this is a similar mentality to when the europeans came to north america and had their little manifest destiny parade wiping out a majority of the natives (they are savages we are civilized god fearing men with guns, etc). In short africa is at culturally in a different era than we are today. How we speed up their social evolution is really a matter for us to determine, I figure some hope the internet will save them but that little problem of poverty is also a hurdle.
      You may not like what I said and thats fine, all I'm asking is for people to think on these type of matters as to avoid the typical responses of disgust.

    • 2 years ago
  • lilysol
    • +1
      lilysol  
    • RaceBannon:

      Can people please please please stop calling people racist when it does not apply. It dilutes the power of a REAL problem and is turning it into a political football. After that's said, RaceBannon I understand where you're coming from because the cyclical effects of the the extreme and brutal violence, exploitation, and pillaging of the continent during colonialism that began centuries ago and in many places ended only a decade or so ago definitely have stripped Africa's power and potential. Similarly, in many places, the people's original religions, languages, tribal affiliations, etc are forever lost. This is why, yes, they should receive aide, tools to grow, and empathy but it's condescending and frankly dehumanizing to say that they have no responsibility or accountability when it comes to human rights violations as they are not children, imbeciles, or animals. It is not up to the West to determine what they prefer or disapprove of culturally, but it is right of the international community to hold them accountable to those basic standards of safety we are granted as humans.

    • 2 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
    • +1
      UrbanGypsy  
    • RaceBannon:

      Its okay, no offense taken Race. I was just making my point. I agree with you, it isn't easy changing attitudes about homosexuality, and not to mention a host of other things. But I think the first step is to condemn the actions and let others know that they are wrong.

      People can question what constitutes "wrong," but when we stop and realize that innocent human beings are being killed and their rights abused, then I think it is our duty to show them that they still have friends and people across the world who are willing to offer them some solidarity. There is nothing more crushing than to be oppressed and ignored by the world...

    • 2 years ago
  • eden49
  • Einsam_Data_Old
  • eden49
  • GodsnLiberals
    • -7
      GodsnLiberals  
    • I am not worried..THE UNITED NATIONS WILL correct this..

      before it was the christians..now here comes the gay athiests..

      going to save africa from this savage culture mindset..AAHHAHAHAHHAHAH

    • 2 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
  • CalgarC
  • Mattchicago
    • +4
      Mattchicago  
    • they would rather rape young woman and have wars rather then having equal rights not just for gay people but for the whole country as a whole.

    • 2 years ago
  • mysticalweave
  • randallr01
  • emarston
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