Climategate Investigation A Monumental Whitewash

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One down, two to go: First “investigation” into data fixing scandal clears scientists, says warming is real
A Parliamentary investigation into the climategate scandal has cleared the scientists involved of any data fixing and subversion of the peer review process, and notes that the scandal provides no evidence to challenge the notion that human activity is causing catastrophic global warming.
The House of Commons’ Science and Technology Committee Report (PDF), the first of three investigations into climategate, produced its report after only a single day of oral testimony.
The report concludes that UN IPCC affiliated scientists at the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit, led by director Phil Jones (pictured at the hearing), did not tamper with data in an effort to exaggerate the threat of global warming.
The Report states that “The scientific reputation of Professor Jones and CRU remains intact”.
The committee added that it found nothing sinister in Jones’ use of the words “hide the decline” and “trick” with regards to data on temperature changes.
The committee contends that when Jones stated “hide the decline” in an email to his colleagues, he was referring to discarding erroneous data, rather than deliberately concealing it.
The report also states that Jones’ use of the word ‘trick’ “appears to be a colloquialism for a ‘neat’ method of handling data.”
The Committee pulled this explanation from testimony by the CRU itself, which stated:
…as for the (now notorious) word ‘trick’, so deeply appealing to the media, this has been richly misinterpreted and quoted out of context. It was used in an informal email, discussing the difficulties of statistical presentation. It does not mean a ‘ruse’ or method of deception. In context it is obvious that it is used in the informal sense of ‘the best way of doing something’. In this case it was ‘the trick or knack’ of constructing a statistical illustration which would combine the most reliable proxy and instrumental evidence of temperature trends.
Scientist Steve McIntyre, who is mentioned over 100 times in the hacked emails has consistently explained how this explanation is insufficient and falls flat on its face.
On his blog, Climate Audit, McIntyre rebuts the Parliamentary Committee’s conclusion, noting:
“Contrary to [the University of East Anglia's] claims, there is no valid statistical procedure supporting the substitution of tree ring proxy,”
“This is absurd.” McIntyre added, “The trick was not a “neat” way of handling data, nor a recognized form of statistical analysis. The trick was a clever way of tricking the readers of the IPCC 2001 graphic into receiving a false rhetorical impression of the coherency of proxies – a point understood at the beginning by Jon Stewart of the Daily Show, but now misunderstood due to continued disinformation.”
McIntyre points out that at no time did even the CRU itself contend that any of its data was “erroneous”, so to conclude that it had to dispose of such data is ludicrous:
In addition, their suggestion that Jones and others were doing nothing more than “discarding data known to be erroneous” is simply absurd. There was no testimony to the Committee (nor has it ever been suggested) that the tree ring data was measured incorrectly or that the data was “erroneous” – the data is what it is. The tree ring data goes down instead of up – but that doesn’t make it “erroneous”. It only means that the data is a bad proxy – something that was concealed from IPCC readers.
McIntyre submitted notes to the Science and Technology Committee on this very detail of the matter, however, it seems his detailed description has been completely disregarded.
The idea that the “trick” was not to conceal data that was out of step with the scientists warming thesis also falls down when you consider that the code within the CRU’s climate models prove that temperature numbers were “artificially adjusted” to hide the decline in global warming since the 1960’s.
This information was leaked along with the inflammatory emails referring to it and provides the real smoking gun. However, predictably, there is no mention of the coding in the STC report....
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unimatrix0
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prisonplanet is a conspiracy theory joke
climate change is real, climategate is a distraction
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unimatrix0
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hammywill
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Who cares what the CAUSE of Global Warming is?!
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hammywill
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WakeUpPeople
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hammywill:
If the cause is due to greenhouse gas emissions, then we would logically aim to curb GHG emissions. That's why it matters. So we can adjust our behaviors.
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WakeUpPeople
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hammywill
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WakeUpPeople:
We can adjust our behaviors anyway, is what I was getting at. Regardless of whether or not we caused it.
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hammywill
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WakeUpPeople
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hammywill:
Absolutely we could and should. That of course does not mean that we will. The debate about the science will go on ad nauseum with skeptics clearly wanting to be the experts and climatologists defending the fact that they are the experts. Whether right or wrong, we need to transition completely to clean renewable energy because what we are burning now is filthy, dangerous, and finite.
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WakeUpPeople
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Saladin
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Part 2 of practically the only person who makes sense on either side of this issue.
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Saladin
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Saladin
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Part 1 of 2 of a four month old debunking of "climategate" from a non-partisan scientist.
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Saladin
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Saladin
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Soooooo...
“This is absurd.” McIntyre added, “The trick was not a “neat” way of handling data, nor a recognized form of statistical analysis. The trick was a clever way of tricking the readers of the IPCC 2001 graphic into receiving a false rhetorical impression of the coherency of proxies"
....is talking about the one fucking e-mail this whole "scandal" is about, when a later paragraph says....
"In addition, their suggestion that Jones and others were doing nothing more than “discarding data known to be erroneous” is simply absurd. There was no testimony to the Committee (nor has it ever been suggested) that the tree ring data was measured incorrectly or that the data was “erroneous” – the data is what it is. The tree ring data goes down instead of up – but that doesn’t make it “erroneous”. It only means that the data is a bad proxy – something that was concealed from IPCC readers."
...which admits it was about fucking TREE RING DATA. What people have said it was fucking about ALL ALONG.
To top it all off? THIS WHOLE "hide the decline" IS ALL IN ARTICLE WHICH IS PUBLIC, PUBLISHED INFORMATION IN THE JOURNALS. NONE OF IT WAS SECRET, -EVER-.
Wow, some big fucking scandal huh?
Meanwhile, the caps are still melting, the oceans are still acidifying and the only coherent motive these conspiracy theorists have for the supposed falsification of data (that they've never shown) is that governments want a reason to raise taxes.
This whole thing is one Orwellian mess. The conspiracy nuts hack these e-mails (even though the public journals say the same thing), release them to the media who then jumps ALL OVER IT, and then claim the media is "silencing" them as a part of the conspiracy even though NO ONE attempts to defend the researchers in the public realm.
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Saladin
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obamaisajoke:
Right, and because it's 55 degrees right where you are it could NEVER be a different temperature somewhere else.
Hurrrrrrr.
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Saladin
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tbowman131
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if anyone is interested in a BALANCED version of what happened with climategate, check out the linked Economist article... but beware, it's full of that "science" stuff
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tbowman131:
Very good article. I highly recommend reading it.
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zakthezomb13
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the guy in the pic is straight gangsterrrr...
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zakthezomb13
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WakeUpPeople
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/climategate-scientists-vindicated...
Okay, there will be three inquiries into the 1000 stolen emails. They said they wanted more time with the first inquiry, but there was nothing that showed any wrongdoing thus far in the investigation which started in November, although they told Jones to be more forthcoming with the freedom of information requests. Perhaps the next 2 inquiries will be more revealing.
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WakeUpPeople
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Dagum
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WakeUpPeople:
But the committee doesn't seem too independent if it is being led by Sir Muir who “vehemently supports the notion of anthropogenic global warming” and has made up the panel of experts. (Unless he balanced the view points.)
Hopefully the committee will take more than a day to hear oral testimony and write their reports for the next charges.
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Dagum
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Dagum:
I thought this was informative.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/09/peer-review-block-scientific-p...
There were a few parts of this that made me raise an eyebrow to their word choice, but I think overall, there doesn't seem to be anything illegal or manipulative with regard to the raw data. In fact, despite what they may have said in whatever manner they meant it, the peer-review process played out as it was designed. Several of the "skeptical" papers that Jones reviewed were still submitted to the IPCC. I'm sure as always that there is more than meets the eye, but I do not think that the errors in Jones's diction are a slam debunk of anthropogenic climate change. I'm interested in your thoughts on this article. Please read if you have the time.
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UtopianSky
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The global warming deniers don't care about science or facts.
They just believe whatever they want to believe.
I would not be shocked if the majority of them are Creationists. - 3 years ago
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MoonLoon
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Classic Double Speak!
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Dagum
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...With reference to charges of subverting the peer review process [8] by Jones and the CRU, the report states “the evidence we have seen does not suggest that Jones was trying to subvert the peer review process”, adding that academics should not be criticised for “informal comments” on papers.
So when Phil Jones wrote the following to climate scientist Michael Mann of Penn State University: We “will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!” [9]that was not a declaration of intent, according to the STC investigation.
The committee essentially believes it is A-OK for the CRU scientists to routinely refer to any research offering alternate viewpoints as “disinformation [10]“,”misinformation [11]” or “crap [12]” that needs to be kept out of the public domain. The committee sees no problem with the fact that those same scientists have the power to do just that.
It is backwards and upside down to constantly refer to a “scientific consensus” in order to back up claims of human induced warming and then to essentially state that it doesn’t matter whether or not the scientists at the head of that same consensus have operated within a culture of stonewalling dissenting evidence, theories, data and viewpoints.
After one afternoon of interviews, the STC report concludes “We have found no reason in this unfortunate episode to challenge the scientific consensus.”
“There was no evidence to challenge the ’scientific consensus’ that global warming is induced by human activities.” the report states elsewhere.
Of course, the committee did not spend any time looking at the science, and it was never the intention of the investigation to vindicate the scientific theory behind anthropogenic global warming, however, those two juicy quotes will serve to do so in the eyes of the media and the public at large.
The STC investigation into climategate is farcical on its face. The Committee itself admits that it’s report is insufficient and does not cover all the issues. Phil Willis, the committee’s chairman, noted that it had to produce something quickly before the British general election, and a possible change of government, in May.
“Clearly we would have liked to spend more time on this,” Willis said, adding “We had to get something out before we were sent packing.”
Though the Committee condemned the CRU for withholding information requested by outsiders under Britain’s freedom of information laws, it failed to determine whether Professor Jones had actively deleted information to prevent requests to publish it, as indicated by requests made by Jones in emails to his colleagues.
“The culture of non-disclosure at CRU and instances where information may have been deleted to avoid disclosure, particularly to climate change sceptics, we felt was reprehensible,” Willis told a news conference [13].
However, the report does not indict Jones on these charges, perhaps because, as revealed by one of the MP on the committee in comments to The Times of London [14], all members had agreed not to question Professor Jones too closely because of his “fragile condition” – now that’s what I call getting to the bottom of the matter.
Phil Willis also said that the further two pending inquiries into the e-mail scandal would provide a more in depth review. However, as we have previously reported [15], we can hardly expect the so called “independent” investigation led by Sir Muir Russell to be in any form impartial, given that Russell himself vehemently supports the notion of anthropogenic global warming and has constructed a panel of “experts” that share the same views.
Those views clearly contradict the founding principle of the inquiry – to appoint experts who do not have a “predetermined view on climate change and climate science”.
Thus, any notion that this investigation might shake the foundations of the perceived “consensus” on climate science, by being anything other than favourable to Phil Jones and the CRU, is highly unlikely.
Once again it will be left to the alternative media and the blogs to expose these whitewash reports for what they are, given that the vast majority of the corporate mainstream media will undoubtedly run with headlines such as “Investigation Clears Climate Scientists” and “Warming Science Vindicated”, headlines that will be repeated ad infinitum by warmists, carbon trading scam artists everywhere.
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Dagum
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McIntyre is, according to the Wall Street Journal, a "semiretired Toronto minerals consultant" who has spent "two years and about $5,000 of his own money trying to double-check the influential graphic" known as the "hockey stick" that illustrates a reconstruction of average surface temperatures in the Northern hemisphere, created by University of Virginia climatologist Michael Mann. He does not have an advanced degree and has published two articles in the journal Energy and Environment, which has become a venue for skeptics and is not carried in the ISI listing of peer-reviewed journals.[3]
McIntyre was also exposed for having unreported ties to CGX Energy, Inc., an oil and gas exploration company, which listed McIntyre as a "strategic advisor." [4] He is the former President of Dumont Nickel Inc., and was President of Northwest Exploration Company Limited, the predecessor company to CGX Energy Inc. As of 2003, he was the strategic advisor of CGX Energy Inc. He has also been a policy analyst at both the governments of Ontario and of Canada. [5]
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Steve_McIntyre
So an extremely vocal climate skeptic (with absolutely no education in the field of climatology but with longstanding ties to energy and mineral exploration) is the main source for quotes in this article. He was not part of the investigation and could therefore not be a good witness for the depth of the inquiry.
Watch your sources Dagum. Find something credible. Alex Jones and Steve McIntyre are a little too biased for a fair report.
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WakeUpPeople
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Dagum
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WakeUpPeople:
Don't attack the messenger, attack the claims. I won't swing one at Al gore to make a serious point. There are hundreds of other sources outside the simplified MSM who are saying its a white wash.
Look at the charge "of subverting the peer review process"
How can you not conclude from the evidence submitted in the investigation. The email between Jones and Mann saying that:
"we will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is" is not evidence of attempt to subvert the peer review process."
The whole investigation was joke. 10 years of emails, the charges involve subverting science used for a global concept and the issue is disposed with 1 day of oral testimony?
The committee itself admitted they wanted to produce something quickly before the British general election.
Also the main source isn't McIntyre, its the Transcript of the investigation.
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Dagum
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Dagum:
I'm not saying that there is no merit to the claims. I was not a part of the investigation, so I cannot say definitively what was discovered or discussed. I am however saying that the messenger's credibility is important. ~(and you'll be hard pressed to find me quoting Al Gore.)~ While I appreciate his efforts in advocating the science, I think his political affiliation may have immediately "skepticized" a large portion of America.
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WakeUpPeople
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Dagum:
I promise I'll look more into it.
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Dagum
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WakeUpPeople:
I want to post the orginal transcipt but I can't find it on the net anywhere right now.
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Dagum
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Dagum
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We are painting the roses red.
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Dagum