Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care

Dude, does your post even remotely pertain to this thread? WOW.....

PS the time for cries of "stop, thief, stop!" were about 6 years ago, and guess what? They went unheeded, as everyone was too busy getting rich off their fake real estate wealth to notice and/or care. So the thieves are long gone and got off scot-free after raiding the Treasury (whatever happened to Mozilo?).

So now that it's too late, are you trying to close the barn doors after the horses are long down the road? Only now, AFTER the biggest raiding of the gov't coffers, you're just NOW trying to save us?

Face it: this carcass has been picked over, but good....

Being an adult, I have the ability to choose on my own when to be ashamed of the country and when not to. Nothing is black and white srg. There are things to be proud of (the responders on 9/11) and things to ashamed of (the Iraq War or the response to Katrina) and lots of things in between. I do find it funny that you include this long list of things you're clearly upset by (and I assume ashamed of) and then blast Michelle Obama for her shame. I guess you're the only one who's allowed to express your feelings, huh?

As for your situation with your health care...I feel sorry for you. The system has abandoned you. And IF Obama had passed a Nationalized Health Care program similar to the VA, then you might have a legitimate fear about how things are going to go (thought I'd disagree), but that's NOT what he passed at all. Maybe you should throttle back on the rage and do some reading on the actual law. You might be surprised by what you find.

Good luck.

I know this guy's removed, but to claim that "words on paper" have no power is bullshit. What about our Declaration of Independence? Or any religious text or any law that is signed or any lawful agreement between two parties. Words on paper is a big deal and words on paper have been pissing people off for centuries. For this guy to write it off as a silly nuisance is infuriating to a word-smith.

Yeah, just goes to show there are in fact edumacated (sic) dummies in ALL professions.

Need you be reminded of the Muslim Army psychiatrist who shot up the troops he vowed to serve, or the biologist professor who killed her colleagues after failure to make tenure? Fact is, some of the most educated members of society are prone to developing superiority complexes, based on years of those who've told them how smart they are, etc.

If this guy WAS influenced by the AM radio infotainers, then he's a fool: he seems not to understand that he's a TARGET for the average Joes as part of the health care PROBLEM, as an over-paid elite doctor. So he's siding with the WRONG side, and is too stoopid (sic) to realize it. He's going to have to start carrying a Tea Party protest banner in front of his own practice, if he buys the spiel....

White collar professionals are no better than anyone else, and just because this guy has worked in heath care all his life, doesn't make him an authority on this new law. There are people in all lines of work who are selfish pricks. This guy is no different just because he has a Dr. before his name. Besides, based on your other post, it doesn't seem like you think Doctors are always right...I guess only when you're trying to slam Obama. Typical.

"Lying liberal"?

Sorry, but anyone who uses the Jesse Jackson fallacy ("if it rhymes, it MUST be true", as utilized by Johnnie Cochran, "if the glove fits, you must acquit") automatically disqualifies themselves from any serious consideration in a debate.

Republicans have lots of Fans
Like Palin, O'Reilly and Beck
Keep the tired, poor, huddled masses
with nooses round their neck.

So grab yer gun let's have some fun
and terrorize the blue
Our sources have left us completely blind
and totally without a clue.

See? If it rhymes it IS true. :o)

isn't "lying liberal" onomatopoeia or alliteration or something? Me not fail inglush or nuthin . . .

Yeah, the "nobodies read it" accusation arguably applied to the bank bail-out legislation, where Paulson demanded IMMEDIATE action from Congress, where REPUBLICANS and Bush started the "shoving legislation down our throats!" stuff where no one read it first.

Nowadays? Let's see: 2,500 pages, divided by 365 days (as it took a year to pass). That works out to 6 pages a day of that large-print legislation, hardly a major challenge for even a 5 y.o. child.

I dare say you're simply parroting the non-sense spewed by the likes of Rushbo/Hannity/Beck, etc. And just because THEY have a hard time reading without moving their lips (none of them finished even a full year at the local community college, BTW), it doesn't mean we're ALL such idiots.

Oh, the IRS thingie about them collecting payments, and looking into Medicare fraud? Perhaps you'd prefer starting a NEW, REDUNDANT Federal agency to do this, ust to have BIGGER more inefficient redundant government? That's real efficient, huh?....

Sorry, but the insurers have so screwed up their role (as the big banks screwed up, not only their businesses, but threatened the entire World economy) with corruption and outright bald-faced thievery, that there's little point to let them further screw it up.

People from Mt Dora... *sigh* He got confused so easily too. Thanks for the video +^'d

I love how Cavuto gets confused by the doc's own confusion, and the interview just sort of trails off from there... Keep Classy, Cavuto! :)

lol if they were ceo's and big pharma they could join the govnment in shaking down (looting) the people.
In this case that would not be the GOP but a certain other party of treacherous scum.

What makes you believe that when the GOPers voting party line on the bill got kick backs for voting no, and receive kick backs for putting this country on the road to ruin for the previous 8 years they had the president's seat?

Funny you guys were nowhere around talking about "corruption" and "treachery" until a Democrat took office. Suddenly the country is now "full of corruption". I think you people are full of something else entirely...

Dude, it's both parties.

Now go scurry off: you've polluted this thread with enough BS opinions to last a week, at least. It's morons like you who get riled up by Faux News after being fed at the altar of Rush/Hannity/Levin, etc, and thus think you know of what you speak....

What flavor of kool-aid are you drinking?

OK, I'll tell you why.

You think you'll be seeing BO and his kids down at the local DC free clinic? You actually THINK BO et al ARE socialists (and hint: despite what Hannity/Beck may shout, he is NOT)? You think you'll see them slumming down, hanging in the line of the local free clinic to get their "Obamacare"? Do you really think that accomplishment and hard work DON'T deserve special services that are unavailable to Billy Bob in Bumfuckity, AL?

Man, you really ARE naive, lapping up the Faux News crap, if you DO think that!

For one, why SHOULD they NOT have access to different care? You don't think National security concerns, much less their hard work and sacrifice, entitle them to receive executive-level medical care? If you DON'T, then look in the mirror, and ask yourself who's promoting the socialism here: you or them! If the fact that BO and Pelosi are multi-millionaires doesn't convince you they're not socialists, then this fact alone SHOULD.

Did you know POTUS and high-level leaders of Senate and Congress actually get executive medical care from a doctor (with a staff of 16) who maintains an office in the White House? Did you know the same doctor (usually a military doc) has a team of specialists at his beck and call, and has the resources of military hospitals near-by for testing, if needed?

Well, people sometimes forget that so-called "free-market" capitalism (said with tongue planted in cheek, since Bush interfered with the concept in the name of saving it!) allows not just freedom to SUCCEED, but freedom to FAIL! In fact, freedom to fail IS part of the process.

If this urologist thinks offending the MAJORITY of the population (Obama did win, right?) and violating his ethical codes (as well as State law) is a good business plan, then so be it. We'll see some free-market justice in action in the future, I suspect.

On the misinformed 12 year old public... you got that right. We have corporate America to thank for the misinformation, no matter what the info is.

Dude, if you're going to insult someone the least you can do is insult them in a response to one of their statements, and not in a random post. Dick move. -\/'d

You can die from an untreated bladder infection. It's not the same.

big difference between skin color and just being politically gullible.
"his own time" LOL
It is his own time.

not his own time. while he is a doctor, he must act like a sensible person. just like teachers can't go into class and start making out with their boyfriends or girlfriends instead of teaching. form 9 - 5, the laws and rules must truely say that he must not be the thing he treats. there is a difference between physiological and psychological distinctions between people, but they are still distinctions, so its a great example. if you dont like "go away if you dont have my political view" then maybe you wouldn't like "go away if your a jew".

Do you honestly believe that someone who voted for Obama would read that sign and say, "Oh well, I doubt they are REALLY going to refuse me." Even if they went in for treatment, don't you think they might be worried they weren't getting adequate care??

Sure its his opinion, but it has absolutely no business in this setting. What he wants to do in his PRIVATE life is his business.... but this isn't his private life.

He completely ignored the hippocratic oath.

"I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.
I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm."

Great post.

About the endless paperwork. It now takes 5 people per one doctor to handle paperwork. This health insurance bill won't hurt, nor help, that.

Agree. Something needs to be done about that.

Agree. I know many doctors who simply want to practice medicine but instead they are busy with paperwork and forced to run their practice as a business instead.

"I will not permit considerations of gender, race, religion, political affiliation, sexual orientation, nationality, or social standing to influence my duty of care."

Being a doctor is more than cutting people open. It requires a sympathetic ear, and a comforting demeanor. I'm sure if this guy handled an openly liberal patient, his manner would interfere with the healing process.

I'm all for freedom of speech, but the oath means something. If he wanted to express himself, he need only do so anonymously.

Your argument of unconstitutionality is irrelevant to the conversation, because he's already taken the oath, and thus agreed to its terms.

This is no more a violation of the Oath than doctors that prescribe drugs that patients ask for by name simply by what they were told from an advertisement. Not including the fact that those doctors aren't addressing the real issues of poor health, I.E. diet, lifestyle, etc.

And I suppose one could argue this is also in violation of, "Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice" if you think that being unwilling to provide affordable health care is intentional injustice.

I'm going to repost what I wrote in response to JohnAdams when he made the reference to liberals thinking that the prank that ended up towing many Glenn Beck watcher's vehicles was funny, but this expression of political bias was not.

"The primary difference that made the towing prank funny was that it was not really harmful to the well being of anyone. Sure people got mad because of it, but no one suffered because of it. However, this has many potentially harmful consequences. If someone is in distress from a painful bladder issue that could become more serious if undiagnosed and/or treated sees this sign and in his/her pain stricken mind takes it literally (because seriously, as it is written it's obviously a joke to whomever reads it like a kick in the balls is obviously a joke to whomever receives the kick) then they might look for help elsewhere and waste potentially valuable time.

Shortly put, this kind of "joke" isn't funny because it could have very serious consequences beyond having to pay a fine that the receiver of the joke can easily afford."

Basically, if one person in pain and/or distress who is not thinking clearly sees that sign and instead of seeking medical aid turns around because they took that sign literally, then that doctors sign will be in violation of his Hippocratic Oath because sarcastic or not, he is communicating that he will not treat people of a certain political persuasion.

You are absolutely wrong. By your tortured logic, if I put a sign on my business that said "occhipij is not welcome here", then it would be your fault for not ignoring my sign. If you can't see how incredibly stupid that sounds, then you are blinded by your own agenda and simply shouldn't be taken seriously.

You assume that if someone is in enough distress that their judgement is impaired that they will head directly to the ER. If the person is a regular client of the doctor and has a good idea that the problem causing them such distress is a urinary tract problem, it's not unreasonable for the person to go to a place where they are more familiar first. In this case it would be the person's Urologist.

Just out of curiosity, what if he opened the office up for the day, but put the closed sign up. He wouldn't be denying anyone service so long as they walked through the door, but how many people do you think would see the closed sign and turn away just because it was telling them "CLOSED"?

Doctors are obviously allowed to close their offices, but it's negligent to NOT be within reach for after-hours care by not having, say, an answering service (doc avail by pager), or to have some other reasonable instructions for patients to contact him when the office is closed, or with clear instructions to direct the patient where adequate care is available (it's not enough to say, "Seek other care").

If the doc makes a referral to a colleague whom they KNOW to be incompetent, that's also a cause for a potential malpractice suit, known as 'negligent referral'.

Same concern: avoiding patient abandonment charges, which also is considered malpractice (and harm must result, or the cause is not worth pursuing).

This guy has really opened a can of worms here, by basically telling EVERY patient in his practice that's he's discharged ALL of them from his care, without knowing for sure which patients will perceive themselves as being discharged (how does the doctor knows WHO actually voted for Obama or not?). At the very LEAST, he'll have to send a letter to ALL patients in his records, explaining that he didn't mean it, that NONE were discharged, and he still expects to maintain a 'doctor/patient' relationship with them in the future (unless they contact him to request a transfer of care to another provider).

Point being, hanging a sign like this on the door's practice is ABSOLUTELY a malpractice lawyer's wet dream, as it basically declares 'open season' on the doctor for claims from ALL existing patients, who reasonably can claim 'patient abandonment'.

EVEN IF the claim is FRAUDULENT, and patients DO know better, the doc literally doesn't have a leg to stand on in his defense (except his middle leg).

PS don't be surprised if this urologist's medical malpractice carrier decides to drop him, as well; trust and believe, malpractice carriers do NOT appreciate egotistical doctors who increase their liability, based only on their over-blown egos and big mouths. Same goes for egotistical doctors who open themselves up to sexual harassment claims, too: just a hot mess that carriers don't want to deal with!

A doc without medical malpractice coverage, and unable to secure it, might as well just hang up their shingle (or look into self-insurance, by posting a large bond with the State Medical Board, something most docs don't want to do).

And the new law is socially responsible? Anyone advocating more rules and laws to affect individuals rights should understand more rules and regulations seldom affect the masses positively. Less rules more freedom and the rest will work itself out. Those who will exploit others the most always are immune to the new rules. Majority of the time they are the ones lobbying for the new rules which most effect the little guy. Keep your rules. Let the rest of us have our freedoms to choose what to do with our own lives. Those that don't like the choices of others that might serve the public should seek services elsewhere.

i can tell you listen to bill maller because details don't matter to you.
This doctor denied nobody medical treatment.

I can tell your a complete moron because reality doesn't matter to you. This doctor Said he wanted to deny medical treatment to anyone who wasn't as bat shit crazy as him. He definately broke the hipocratic oath, and continues to break it by having such an evil demonic set of mind. He didn't deny medical treatment to anyone? This simple gives free right for everyone to post signs like his... but im sure that's exactly what demonic people like him want. and they are welcome to do it, as long as they take responsibility for them. Here's a fine story:
a man walks down the street, on a door to his side there is a sign. the sign reads "jews, please go to another store." the man is angry because he is a jew, he walks into the store to have a talk with the biggoted owner. "hey, my aryan brother! wat would you like from my store?" the owner asks. The man responds, "I'm a Jew. why does your store claim "best prices for everyone" when it tells jews to use another store? im going to report you biggotry and your hipocracy to the German restoration police." "hahahaha," responds the owner, "you silly Jew, your not as smart as aryans... I know its against the new tyranious laws to deny you jews service! that's why im going to give you my best products and prices (not really though, clearly i hate jews so im going to give you crap)! its just a sign HAHAHA im not denying you fair service...but if it makes some of you bastards think twice before entering my store, all the better. HAHAHAHAAH. all the sign gives Is an earfull of my opinion, frowned upon as it may be, last time i checked that was not illegal. HAHAHAHAH Its not Illegal to harrase you into segregating yourselfs. HAHHAHAHAAH, im sure my ARYAN brothers will all agree with me and come to my defense... YOU have nothing on me you disgusting JEW!
The End... thanks for supporting the cause

It's "Maher", troglodyte.

I think from now on, whenever someone pops on this thread and makes the lame argument that the doc would treat the person IF they ignored the sign we should refer them to this post. Very well said choirtramps23.

sooo by your low moron standards, biggot signs are allowed as long as the smart-ass says they dont matter. Riiiiight. thanks for embarasing this nation. read my responce to montesooma as few posts up.