8 Reasons the US has Become a Nation of Slaves

Save your money.

Doing away with Black Slavery made more slaves of every other Race. We should have paid the Blacks to remain slaves! Now we all sit around minimum wage campfires the wolves coming closer no wait, they're at the door with an eviction notice and they -oh wow- they wear badges.

Did you really say that?

I was put on some great meds last Friday. Ain't it Cool?

That would help to have better unions without the corruption of union officials that weakened them

Yeah, because the unions have proven themselves so trustworthy; It's not like they're trying to make the citizens of this country pay the benefits and retirements of the auto companies, oh you mean they are, wow that's hard to believe, didn't see that one coming. :-P

That doesn't make sense. The middle class funded both Election campaigns to the tune of $700+ million smackers. Destroying the hand that feeds you is usually considered a poor move. (Pun intended). So if they are making that move up the rail it tells voters they have switched horses to win.

They're now riding the corporate horse passing laws to favor them, and the voters can go to grass.

They're now riding the corporate horse passing laws to favor them, and the voters can go to grass.

They're now riding the corporate horse passing laws to favor them, and the voters can go to grass.

And then to the Glue Factory.

The middle class (suburban and urban) tend towards Democrat.
The filthy rich, rural poor and working class tend towards Republican.

That's why the Republicans don't like the middle class.

They don't like the poor and working class either, but they found the right propaganda tool to manipulate them; religion and paranoid fears of communists, gays, and Islam.

Completely drunk or totally uninformed. You have no idea about what you're talking about on the breakdown of politics.

Amazing how a drunk uninformed person who has no idea what he is talking about accuses me of being him.

Take a look at the red/blue maps.
Rural, poor states are Republican Red.
Urban wealthy states are Democrat Blue.
East and West costs= Blue.
Central states= Red.

Even within each state, the urban areas tend towards blue, and the rural areas tend towards red.

But go ahead, just keep denying reality when it does not match your expectations.

WAIT! The Republicans are Reds? Wow. Who would've guessed THAT?! Man, this is like better than a visit from Santa, and even he's a Red too! Well shucks Maw, we're just surrounded by REDS. The movie we saw last night was right!

I wondered that too- conservatives always used to call liberals "reds" and "pinkos" yet for some reason the people who made the election maps settled on red for republican, blue for democrat. And how is it they all agreed on the same colors?

Red makes me think of a Stop sign, so the Republicans surround themselves with them, to protect their businesses & money. Blue makes me think of being real Cold, which Democrats are towards the fetus by allowing abortions, demanding abortions actually. They didn't all a sudden one day "agree"; the names fit like a glove to what they are inside each group, so the names stuck... making it appear as if they were all stricken with agreement.

Utopian sky, the working class tends to vote more democrat, a large portion may vote republican, but the majority: democrat.

That depends on the definition of "working class", it's an ambiguous term.

I'm using it to mean above "poor", but below "middle class".

They are the group on the line so the split is close, so it depends on if they are rural working class or urban working class.

There is a political difference between urban and rural working class, bur working class isn't very ambiguous. The working class are people who sell their labor to others, and do not manage anybody else.

No, it is not exactly slavery. It's WORSE than slavery. Indentured servants were required to have food and housing. We pay for both through a system of money based around debt. Even the creation of money is out of debt. There have been slaves throughout history who had jewels and nice clothes and all kinds of nice possessions. Our taxes are all devoted to a war that we don't want... inflation and scarcity are regulated by a company that is independent of the federal government (the federal reserve) but that can have it's top members appointed by the federal gov. For decades our money has been very carefully controlled to keep us in line. and we're seeing repeats of 1920 and a few other times when competition to the big guys has been re-consolidated to the center. The banks own us... and we keep working and making things that are complete bullshit (and sometimes things that have no value whatsoever, or do not even exist) just to keep the money coming in to the banks.

Here's a quote from Abraham Lincoln... who knew that central banks would lead to slavery:

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war"

And here are some more quotes from men who knew the dangers of a central bank system.

"A great industrial nation is controlled by it's system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world--no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men."
-President Woodrow Wilson

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."
-Thomas Jefferson

“The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe.”
-Abraham Lincoln

The list goes on and on. Our system exists the way it does because the assholes that own everything want to keep it that way... and there's no other reason. Voting cannot change it. We are slaves.

Jefferson was a slaveholder. When he left for France to take on the role of ambassador for four years he left his estate in the hands of his daughter and slaves. During those four years any one of those slaves could have left. But they stayed on and it was recorded by his daughter that they wept for joy when he returned.

True, there have also been bad slave masters. But what decision would any sensible person make if he or she had no possible way to meet their biological needs. Would they wish to be a Jefferson slave, or would they choose destitution?

The Wilson, Lincoln and Jefferson quotes need to be spread far and wide.

Or just let the present population of America die naturally while importing an entire whole new population drilled in 1950's textbooks.

eeh! Wrong!

...I was brave in '84...

YES. Just so. Ditto. Nailed it. No doubt. So true. +^d.

I agree with you yet I hate to think of anyone's dreams being crushed, especially when someone has worked very hard for them. Fortunately, I won't need to be surrounded by materials you speak of to have made my life worth living. My perspective is that if I use my life to benefit humanity, regardless of my income and possessions,or even without recognition, I won't feel disappointed at the end.

You know, once people have attained a lasting ambition, it can be difficult and painful to let go of it. So in that sense, I will feel compassion for honest people who must sacrifice the luxuries they were waiting for.

Just because we can change our job and drive Ferraris doesn't mean we're not slaves. Our cage is just larger. I think we're much closer to slaves than any other class. Voting doesn't do shit because of lobbyists and corporate powers behind the curtain... the patriot act speaks for itself... Education is on a steep decline... (slaves weren't allowed to have books most of the time, right?) and honestly I think this form of slavery is MUCH more clever. The times they are a changin' and we may need to change our definition of "slavery" as well. I'm not sure if everyone can "better" themselves in this country... because I don't understand what you mean by "better". Does better mean that we get money? and diamonds? and lots of food? Because all of the wealth that we waste comes from somewhere else. The food (And things) we over-consume is (are) taken basically from other nations in one way or another. This taking pretty much always leads to suffering, starvation and death. Some examples to note are: the Acai Berry, diamonds, cobalt, etc. We are slaves... but we aren't at the bottom of the totem pole.

Slavery has existed in EVERY CIVILIZATION THROUGHOUT ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY. Why do people think that things have changed? Slavery is more alive today than it ever was.

I see what you are saying about economic slavery. However, I still have to disagree. Back in the day when the mines kept people at bay (prior to unions) and paid its workers with company coupons that could be redeemed in the company store and kept the families in debt, that was a form of slavery. Today the companies are making more and more and not increasing the hard working middle classes wages. So with that fact I agree with you. However, we still have the freedom to choose to work wherever we want. To quit our jobs and go to college and make our lives better. We are not forced by any entity to do anything except pay taxes for the wages we make.

Slavery economically is the only way I can see you saying slavery though. Feudal society in England was a form of slavery. Indentured servitude was a form of slavery. Today though, we do not have slavery in America. Period. To say otherwise is an insult to African Americans that were slaves.

I started working in a seafood restaurant cleaning other people's food scraps off heavy plates when I was 11 & 12 years old, and I'm white. You can't take my slavery away either. Go fish. It ain't flyin' here man. I was paid under the table 10 cents an hour. When they passed minimum wage they made every American an equal slave. And the waittresses were left out so the women were left even worse slaves!

I worked beside Blacks who were real Blacks too, solid dark men with deep booming voices who should have been kings. I had the best co-workers this world has ever seen. You couldn't have a better friend.

The United States Minimum Wage Law lowered the bar. It gave "human resources personnel" the hammer they needed to pound every new employee into a mold marked Slave. This isn't some college debate class. They had their slavery then, we have our slavery now. You don't like it invent a new word for slave.

I have one => Dunkin' Donuts baker. Wait! I have another => long distance truck driver. Average their wages against their hours is still spells SLAVERY. Add waittress to that. Mom was one. Waittresses die poor, usually of lung cancer from breathing customer's cigar & cigarette airborne filth.

That's slavery, to the death.

I see what you are saying about economic slavery. The wages have not increased under the trickle down theory. The wealthy keep getting wealthier and the disparity is greater than it has ever been in history.

However, there is a choice that people make at the age of accountability (lets say 14) when they can start making decisions on how well they will do in school. Or if they will try and become more educated at whatever job they have. Are you docile and happy with where you are at or taking college classes on the side. I think we can all make more based on how much you are willing to sacrifice.

So if you can say make $50,000 plus in your lifetime if you become educated and possibly over $150,000 with education.

Of course, I am a slave to the lottery, because that is my retirement plan. Unrealistic as it may seem, hahaha.

I say crush the ultra-wealthies dreams of greed. Tax them at pre-Reagan levels of 70% to help pay for things like we used too. The wealthy are not sharing their wealth, and I will use the WalMart heirs as an example. The employees are kept in literal poverty while each of the WalMarts are worth over $20 billion apiece (5 of them) and their company makes over $400 billion annually. Walmart considers full time 27 hours a week and WalMart tells their employees to seek healthcare through the state. They have all given to charity less than 1%, disgusting.

Now, Gates and Buffet have given a vast majority to charity and are altruistic for their actions.

Dreams for the ultra-wealthy are only filled with greed and selfishness. Can you truly be a billionaire without crushing someone at some point?

Crush the Consumer and hear the lamentation of their women!

Granted, those are minimum wage jobs and not glorious. However, you could have quit at any time and no one was beating or whipping you. You were not confined to living quarters or a particular property. You could travel anywhere you wanted, eat what you wanted, and say what you wanted. You were free and still are free. Maybe oppressed socio-economically, but you are not a slave.

We bounce ideas off one another here and share different ideas. SO I agree this isn't a debate class, no one wins or loses. We just have our own ideas and some people agree and others disagree. Others form their own opinions and ideas based on all the ideas they see.

So you are not a slave, because you can quit your job and talk someone into giving you money to go to college or trade school to better yourself and make more money. Even borrow money from the govt and a bank to go to school. You have options, but they can be risky. Even pay for school on a credit card. Not the wisest of choices. Join the military and sacrifice some freedoms and get money to go to school.

That sounds like something that Conan the Barbarian would say, hahahha. Or something from Leviticus.

We do have the freedom to choose where we want to work... but all of the money really just goes back to the people who are producing the most raw resources... and mainly that's oil. Many of the industries out there revolve around the use of oil... and in a way, we all provide for the oil companies. We indirectly fund them weather we like it or not because of the way our infrastructure is set up and held to stagnation. The rest of our money is made and moved through the banks, which, as we've seen... are a broken institution... but they all basically go back to the federal reserve... where our money is created and then loaned to the banks with interest already on it.

I may say this often around here... but inflation and perceived scarcity are regulated intentionally. in 1920 (and again in 1929... and again in......) the stock market crashed because JP Morgan posted an article in one of the papers that he owned that said some banks were going bankrupt. People withdrew from the newer banks and they crashed... consolidating the money back into the big banks. Many thousands of small banks were crushed that year. This made JP Morgan (and Rockefeller among others...) a sum of money equal to billions of dollars by today's standards of inflation.

Inflation on our money is basically like a debt that we can never pay off. It's a carrot on a stick. The poverty line moves up and standard of living goes down. This keeps us working harder for the same standard of living... and inflation happens, essentially, because the banking system serves to profit a select few. Adding debt (with interest) and inflation together makes things worse.

Further... income taxes (apart from being 100% unconstitutional) go wherever our government wants them to go... which means war... because war means more money and more oil for the machine. We don't vote on where our taxes go... and the public opinion has nothing to do with how that money is spent. Our tax dollars are used for the financial gain of the country which tends to equate to our loss. Some of those taxes are going directly to corporate contracts, as well. Again the biggest companies are taking a piece of our wage against our will.

I have to continue to disagree with you here... as I really think what we have here is a new form of slavery. The definition is only slightly different... but I think the scale it's on makes it much worse. The perception of freedom is to be expected... but it really sounds and feels like slavery to me.

I say scrap society and start over. Isms are wrong! Marketing and Sales have no meaning.... The things we do for work are wastes of time. Managing the Earth's resources intelligently requires cooperation of the entire planet and it is, in fact, the only true concern of the human race if we intend to survive... A world without money is a world that is free.

We will never know that world.

Perception. To you. Yep. But you aren't everybody, and they know it. This is nothing more -and nothing less- than Divide and Conquer the board game in action.

This situation has psychologists, sociologists, accountants and pencil pushers, all of them concentrated together to figure out hmm, what percentage of the population can we do ~Fill in the Blank insult and/or atrocity~ to without causing a very bad reaction? They are very aware of perception and in fact they depend on it because it's what makes their mess succeed. For instance, they pretty much know how many soldiers can die horrible deaths on a Daily Basis that the public will find acceptable and necessary to achieve some stupid objective, and that if the number of soldier deaths goes above that number -and stays up for X amount of days in a row- that it would tend to cause an undesirable result, in this case riots by parents and friends alike demanding the war be stopped.

It's an equation.

So like okay, if the total of soldiers starts out heavy in deaths one morning their field commanders would quickly withdraw to a position of relative safety to prevent further deaths THAT DAY, always keeping the dead soldier number below the dreaded threshold.

And like you, s_peak, may be offended if your sensibilities are more defined but you aren't everybody and they know that. They have the population defined and know there's only say 10% of the population having your level of offended, and they know they can tolerate you and your ilk because they know the overall numbers will hold you back and down, because so long as others don't join you they know the lack of action by your fellow citizens will exert a penis pinch on you and you will stay shrunk down doing nothing.

Except you might sit around typing to a blog about it, which they know is a defusing outlet as unimportant to them as you sitting at a bar talking out your feelings to a bartender who doesn't really give a flying leap what bothers you. As long as everyone in the bar feels differently the bartender knows you aren't a threat to the overall stability of the clientele there that night.

It may not be a written equation but it is one. In so many areas of our lives these people have come to realize what percentages they can upset without a reaction wave coming back at them. Think of it as a soft tsunami. But every so often they allow the planes to make it through to the towers to prick us and find out has the equation numbers changed. So like okay, after the real towers went down they learned from that. They learned how many emergency responders can get deadly ill from breathing toxic dust til they banded together and paid a class action lawyer.

Everything that happens gives them updated numbers, which are then their new parameters to not exceed. They pretty much know even how long the new numbers will be dependable & reliable, so about the time those parameters are getting old and unreliable they have to allow -or cause- a new situation to prick us and find out how much of our blood dripping on the ground we will tolerate.

Then they just govern within those parameters.

Take Obama for instance. He's constantly pricking the People, on numerous levels and topics, finding many new parameters, and the results are then fed into the machine. So right now they've discovered they can promise new green technologies then change their mind and the People tolerate it. Such as the complete about face on oil drilling off the Virginia coast, a threat to the entire VA seafood supply chain & industry, and yet the seamen and fisheries represent a very small number of people who constitute an acceptable loss of livelihood to the larger total of Virginians.

And yet underneath it all, if ya lift up the rug and look for the dirt you will recall that Virginia's Richmond politicians and industrialists are developing a space port off the coast, and the space port will require a massive amount of petroleum-based fuel to operate and CREATE LOTS OF NEWFOUND WEALTH FUNNELED TO RICHMOND. In short they've determined exactly how to keep the People sedated into a mild slumber, occasionally opening their eyes then falling back asleep.

They also know how much pain we can take at the pump AND how big a counter event they need to stage to wow us, which defuses the pump pain. So like when we were paying so much for gas they probably peppered reports out at us through the News Media of news of a new high-mpg car on the near horizon "being developed as we speak" so by doing counter moves like that they've found they can raise the pain level above normal parameters and life goes on [doing their bidding].

And there isn't a thing you can ever do about any of it... but stand there, your jaw on the ground, blogging hate at your fellow Americans for being lazy do-nothngs. They know the Internet divides us into a billion screaming voices all saying something different. We've been royally Tower of Babel-ed.

And further, they know they need extra incoming immigrants to dilute the number of people who know the score and the game. So they adjust the number of allowed immigrants to act as a cooling stack for radioactive rods, keeping them (voters) at the desired temperature.

Not mattering at all what the voters actually think or want. Those intangibles stopped having importance when the population of the United States exceeded 230,000,000 or so, a number they now recognize they can never allow again, so bring in more immigrants (+ making the voters feel warm & cozy that so many in the world are clawing their way to get into America and dip their fingers into our cool clean highly-prized democratic water).

With more numbers in America they gain even more control.

Now you take Virginia again okay? They have a little scam going here for purposely keeping a set number of job-injured civilians never getting proper medical attention, because if the Disabled were to begin getting healed and there wasn't any jobs for them it would cause a problem. Plus an additional aspect => the physicians voting Republican PLUS monied physicians contribute a much higher donation rate to the Republican re-election committees.

All of which has had them not treating me correctly even though my own family was very much needing me to resume making a paycheck. We were not even cannon fodder to their machine, and that truly is what we have here now => an unfeeling machine that grinds us into fresh meat and keeps re-grinding us in, for instance, one little overseas war after another, as long as they stay within parameters (# of soldier deaths per day, week, year).

This game is played across every board, whether its the Environment, Ecology, smokestack emissions of Mercury versus how many people actually get sick from it, they know the small percentages will be tolerated by the greater majority who shouts them down for stopping new jobs creation.

All of which means they know they NEED a certain number of people unemployed at all times to provide that shouting down the energy & numbers it needs to be effective.

You're dealing with a high IQ machine. Rocky Balboa. A thousand Goliaths. A thousand highly-organized Goliaths.

And while all of this has been refined again & again to handle Americans, I've seen indications this method of tossing cold water on a nation's populace has spread to other countries and a consortium of world leaders headed by United States President Barack Hussein Obama is now at work to handle the world, gaining now the ability to steer the masses to go a stampeding in any direction they want it to go at any given time they need it to.

They even know how many emaciated little children we can take on TV [as long as they are of a Minority we hold in general disdain as being low achievers ANYWAY].

For instance, one prime example is how they keep bringing a halt to new energy source technologies... that threaten them. Oh sure, they'll placate us til we feel like we're having the best dang sex we ever had our every want indulged in, front side, back side, all sides by multiple partners at the same time even, but while we drown in our own ecstasy their focus is on keeping the old technologies.

The peoples of planet earth are thoroughly screwed.

Purposely leaving x number of country's leaders out of their loop to keep from raising eyebrows.

Nikolai Tesla perhaps the greatest inventor of all time died in January 1943. Federal agents invaded his property and confiscated all his remaining notes. I figured out several of his "lost" inventions on ONE DAY, not just the flying craft fuelless power.

One day, and the government scientists have had them for 67 YEARS.

They already know how to make the spacecraft shown in 1940's comic books. They have the Jaguar XKE and you/we have nothing but a TV set to watch candlepower phallic rockets slowly, painfully budge their weight off a lauchpad... groaning a herculean effort to grind past 18,000 mph escape speed fingers crossed they don't explode.

1960's stuff, and you all go Ooh and Ahh like monkeys stroking the side of a mysterious obelisk. You're never going to be given the 21st century. You get pinata candy from the college-educated elite and nothing more. They know how to extend your lifespan and have the health of a weightlifter. They have it. Not you, peon.

You pay for it, they have it. Spaceships that run circles around propulsion rockets. They have it. Not you.

You are lower than Slaves. You're a worker ant.

I agree that it would be ideal to live in a utopian society. I doubt that the wealthy would want to start over. Considering they are living at the top of the heap. The wealthy are the ones also in charge of the "free market" and in control of the corps. Who happen to influence the G-8, who happens to influence the IMF and World Bank. It is all a web and we are all interconnected.

Our planet seems to be just a resource pot for the planets corporations. I feel bad, but there is little I feel I can do.

The protesters are no longer allowed to even protest within a 3 mile radius of the G-8 during their summits now.

The federal government of the United States imposes a progressive tax on the taxable income of individuals, partnerships, companies, corporations, trusts, decedents' estates, and certain bankruptcy estates. Some state and municipal governments also impose income taxes. The first Federal income tax was imposed (under Article I, section 8, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution) during the Civil War, then again in the 1890s, and again after the Sixteenth Amendment was ratified in 1913. Current income taxes are imposed under these constitutional provisions and various sections of Subtitle A of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended, including 26 U.S.C. § 1 (imposing income tax on the taxable income of individuals, estates and trusts) and 26 U.S.C. § 11 (imposing income tax on the taxable income of corporations).

I don't know if this is what you are referring too? The little film I watched didn't seem to cite these codes?

Just a difference of opinions. The oil companies are the third most powerful set of corps in the U.S. I agree, our economy does revolve around oil.

I believe the constitution was a living document that we have amended over the years. I have a basic question, if we don't pay taxes how will our society work? Do you propose no form of government and anarchy? If the federalist ideas of state run entities were to pervade and only states taxed the populace and we had 50 separate states then you would propose we should not be taxed by them. If the federal govt were abolished by not having taxes the interstate road system that Eisenhower established wouldn't be funded. The military, FBI, CIA, NSA, NIH, CDC, and all govt oversight would not exist. Suggesting that the free market and private industry take over these roles is...not feasible to say the least.

All countries tax their citizens to some extent. You are not happy with how the federal govt use our money if I am not mistaken. I am not happy with all the things they do with our money, but that is how our govt has migrated in the last 80 years.

In the bible and ancient Rome and Greece is what I think of when I think of slavery. Complete oppression of a group of people. Sexual abuse of the women, they are complete property of the owner, complete submission to their master. The slave can be whipped and even killed with NOTHING happening to the master, after all, it is his property. To call a man/women a piece of property has been outlawed in our country and most others. So when you refer to slavery, you are referring to a form of economic slavery that is mild and used as a euphemism. We are all free today to do what we want.

3 miles? What's that? The distance of bullets? Good move.

Individual citizens are under the States => the States are under the Federal Government => so if the order of hierarchy was honored the Fed Gov't would only be able to draw tax monies from the States.

That would put things in proper order & perspective. The State would be dealing with the Federal Government and less abuses would be allowed, while when the individuals like Walks in Storms are easy pickings for the whale-size bureaucracy.

The Federal Government shouldn't be able to tax individuals because individuals don't stand a frog's chance in a refrigerator of winning.

I know you pay taxes to both the state and federal govt. All federal law supersedes state law, unless the fed govt allows the state to have a law that doesn't interfere with federal law.

People complained about England back in the days of the revolution when Britian taxed us without representation. Now that we have representation and we have our own government we can't just let 50 individual states run their own little states. We need a UNITED states, in which the CDC can assist ALL 50 states. We can't have 50 little CDC's in each state. We need a military, so all 50 states citizens pay for a bevy of things that make us a nation and not a collective of 50 individual little states. You may not agree with it, but we spend our tax money to help keep America connected and running.

Three miles is a little far for the distance of a bullet. I am not sure what your statement implies? Are you suggesting that a bullet is how you are going to stand up and fight? When we have a conversation and you don't agree do you always resort to threats of violence? Do you happen to consider yourself a tea bagger?

We fought against Great Britain because we didn't have representation when they were taxing us and our tea. So some colonist got together in Boston dressed as Indians and dumped some tea into the ocean.

So you don't want to pay taxes. Simply petition your representative and possibly run for public office and try to change things politically. Good luck with that. If you do promote violence, I doubt you will do well in a federal penitentiary. Tell me how that works out for you as well.

Can you say militia group.

I don't pay any taxes at all. I draw a disability check. I don't have a gun or bullets. I was just responding that if they made people back away from a conference by 3 miles it was a distance enough to prevent bullets reaching them.

And all that other stuff you wrote is OFF BASE from what I wrote. The taxpayers should pay their taxes to States => then the States and their lawyers could deal with the Federal Government's high salary lawyers on an even playing field to obtain their cut of the loot from the States. I didn't say a thing about military or none of that other stuff you dredged up.

I was just saying a proper hierarchy would work better, if indeed anyone thought working better was a desired objective. Apparently it isn't and my post was to make sure everyone understood the name of the game isn't to work more smoothly or fairly. It's to bludgeon taxpayer blood from their cold dead hands..

Yup. I agree with you there. It's all totally calculated. When we die it's just market research.

I think i saw your Herder walking around the other day...

Agreed.

The "we are slaves" thing is libertarian propaganda - I find it quite insulting to those who are or were slaves for real.

Try getting your definition from Webster's. You will find that some of the descriptions there exactly fit what the article is saying.

Substitute the word slave with Employee, then consider the way the system works. You apply for a job and they say we will start you out at this Wage (many times the minimum). They start you so low the only way to have a decent living is to work two jobs at that wage.

It may not fit an old definition of slavery but it makes a dandy new definition... because what the human resources person is really telling you is you are being paid what they pay everyone else [no matter how exceptional a person you are]. This is very denigrating. This is being treated like a Slave of times past, only without physical chains.

Slave versus today's Employee = very denigrating.

I disagree. A slave has no option to choose what he wants to do. An employee can choose to leave the job and I disagree that everyone gets paid the same. I believe that hard work pays off. An employee can work and go to school to attain an education. Why exactly does a person work two jobs? Perhaps the job they do does not require much expertise. Tell me about their educational achievements and you will have your answer right there.

Me and my family got here in 1992 with nothing but the clothes on our backs and we are not slaves. We live better than some people who were here before us. My parents didn't sit back and complain, they got up, worked, went to school to learn English and now we are part of the Middle Class. They never stopped stressing the importance of an education to me.

Stop blaming the system. People need to look at the mirror and take responsibility for their lives...

You're funny. For every one of you there's a thousand native born Americans not living your life & experiences. When immigrants come here it's in the Republicans great interest to guarantee you succeed, so you have enjoyed a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts. When YOU succeed they succeed so YOU have to succeed.

I've worked harder than you have ever worked. I inherited a bum thyroid gland from the wrong parent. I not only did your work I didn't repair or rest at night for the next day. I started the next day wasted like I finished the previous day. So I wasn't able to do all that night time studying and stuff you and a few other posters here have AUTOMATICALLY assumed every American was healthy enough to do.

You & they are suffering an awesome myopia, a distorted view looking through the eyes of success, totally ignoring and not giving a DAMN that other people are different from you, but there you go on a MORAL MARCH blasting others who are unable to do all that studying.

In America there has also been a rise in dyslexia and other illnesses because Americans have become poorer slaves, so the pregnant Moms haven't been able to afford better foods. This has caused native born Americans already HERE to be having crippled malnourished children with many more congenital disease syndromes.

None of which phases your ass living in a pre-manufactured success story. What a vastly-limited and stunted person you are to be so ignorant and callous of your countrymen that it gives you so much JOY to beat them around the head when they are already suffering so much sicknesses to limit their ability to imitate your achievement.

For your information even though I was fighting to have enough energy to keep my heart beating and my brain functioning, I did get out there and fight what I consider to have been the best damn fight to succeed I was heads above the effort YOU put out, for I had to fight to stay alive. We moved into a 44 ft. trailer with Mom, shared ONE CAR, my wife and Mom each worked two jobs in Richmond VA I worked nights as a donut baker in Colonial Heights, juggling my 1st son too, so I could attend truck driving school, a job a person with my health had absolutely no business doing...

when the trucking industry was de-regulated and the expected earnings were cut in half and less. My first job driving paid 2 1/2 cents a mile. All that hard work to get a job that didn't pay us enough to better our position at all. It was the same flat-on-our-back we had gotten from my becoming a master of Dunkin' Donuts baking.

My intention was to make the monies required to start a donut shop of my own all along. Well, when I asked the Small Business Administration for assistance they told me no, can't help ya friend, we have Affirmative Action and have to help the Blacks and Women [open more flower shops]. This town had PLENTY of flower shops so the women's failed, and the Blacks whatever they opened also failed, while a master tradesman like myself was stepped on to help THEM.

How dare you Sir impugn me and mine for these external crap treatments. You were given favored status and help you may not be aware was even extended to you. Your attitude tells me you are a lowlife. You harbor a seething hate towards Native Born Americans. You don't belong here sir, you simply don't belong here with the level of Hate you have expressed towards me.

The Americans I grew up with in the 1950's were heads above you. You are in a ditch next to them and you likely will never stand any higher.

As far as my lack of success hahahaha in 1989 I saw how to get electricity for this world from lightning, submitted it to the US Dept of Energy and they turned it down. In 2000 I tried to move a new type of windmill I had that was greatly more efficient than most designs. It was stolen and used in a new military transport plane you know nothing about because they hushed it up to keep people like YOU stupid and ignorant, and also thinking Americans are beneath you.

In 2003 I fixed a new car engine building on the work of a great scientist named Hertzberg -his compressed nitrogen engine that had failed to displace gasoline in 1997- and all the people over the years that I've told have all to a man & woman kept my engine from doing that. I have many other and better zero pollution engines than that one since... and they too have all been kneecapped, my family artificially kept down financially not benefiting from my engine systems that do not combust any fuel nor produce any pollutants.

You are not my superior. You just have more money. I live on a higher plane than you even know a man can live in for I live next to God. You scrape around beating people up to make sure everyone understands how great you are. You aren't.

You aren't better than a Native American Indian either. I'm blessed by the Creator in being 25+% Hopi. My work and non-polluting engines were my destiny to make. The prophecies they have plus all the Revelation prophecies are coming true. Your world is about to be dissolved by a heaven-based Kingdom of God. Enjoy your silver spoon life while you can. It's about to be brought to an end of its Age and a new Age began that will bless all believing mankind.

With your attitude of Hate I can know you won't get it. Unless you wake up from your LaLa Land life and start making necessary changes. You probably won't so, Good-bye.

Wow, whose the hater now? You made assumption after assumption and personally insulted me. No worry, I'm a big boy.

Maybe instead of blaming the system you should blame your "bum thyroid gland." I'm sorry to hear that in any case. But millions of Americans do not have that excuse. They all like to blame their current state on things that are out of their control. The truth is that the vast majority of Americans who did not graduate high school or failed to attain an education were perfectly fit people. They just failed to take advantage of their opportunities.

Education is free in this country and if you are enough of a good student then you win a scholarship. You are a special case and there is nothing you could do about your thyroid condition. But like I said, there are plenty of Americans who are complaining and have only to look in the mirror to see why they are the way they are...

And don't try to downplay what my family has done. We came here to a country where we did not even know the language. Do not be jealous of our success. My dad began in this country as a Pizza Delivery man and my mother cleaned houses, this while having to support a child... I never saw them bitching about the system, only working hard days and nights.

Self-deluded eh? Buying up all your own pig slop is very unbecoming.

The only self deluded one here is you. I'm not the one waiting for the kingdom of heaven to come down and fix everything for me.

Your desperation to strangle me is showing. I completed Hertzberg's air-powered car to be a tornadic dynamo (no fuel required), figured out several of Nikolai Tesla's "lost inventions" and invented the engine Albert Einstein wanted, a timed-release power of the sun engine.

Go find someone else to talk your tripe to.

Your super hard working parents are forced to have to work super hard, plus long hours late into the night, to afford the necessities of life. In 1987 an inventor named Floyd Sweet built a device that attracted Cosmic Energy from earth's atmosphere. It was an energy collector system we still don't have... purposely socked away somewhere.

Many such astounding Energy sources have been hidden, shelved and withheld from the world. This makes you and your parents slaves of whoever is doing this, apparently a secret group that continues the slavery. Some people call these warehoused technologies a Truth Embargo.

And you praise them.

Then you lie about me, saying I said I hate you. I never did that. I hate your broad brush attitude toward the Sick of this nation who are unable to run the steeple chase of Slaves, and I hate watching slave's children being sent off to fight and die somewhere, and yet SO WHAT?! => Just open US borders and bring in fresh slaves! => Fresh, totally-ignorant-of-everything Slaves with strong backs.

All of which means the slavery and hiding of energy sources beyond your Miami imagination has new crutches to keep walking.

You and your parents are just fresh bodies being brainwashed and USED as pawns to insult Americans and you have done that in your postings above exceedingly well.

Obviously the modern picture of slavery requires a change in definition. We are slaves to money. If we want to vote with our dollar (which is the only way we can vote anymore) we can barely even accomplish this anymore... as most of us want to see a transition away from oil... but literally everything we use comes back to this one natural resource. All the money goes back to just a handful of companies... so you almost have no choice in allegiance to what you want to support commercially. We are held against our will in a way. Mortgages and taxes (income tax is said to be unconstitutional by many, including some IRS agents who resigned and no longer pay taxes with no repercussions) stick us in one place... inflation (which is caused intentionally, as we've seen in the past) is used to keep us working for that carrot on the stick. We're given cars and drugs and TV and money... but until we have access to free water and can legally grow our own fuel sources, we are not free. I find it insulting to slaves currently around the world that we continue to consume cobalt and diamonds which keep them enslaved and killed. The mentality we support here (of consume first, ask questions later) essentially spreads more slavery through the world. We're not at the bottom of the totem pole, and saying we're slaves may seem extreme... but we literally outsource our slavery now because we live in the first world. Money is the true master to which we are all enslaved.

We may not fit the actual definition (Which has almost no bearing on the modern world, if you ask me) but our addiction to money, in one way or another supports the spread of human slavery... and keeps us from creating real infrastructure change in our country.

I think it's insulting to think that we are free. The world should not work this way. I think words like "libertarian" only serve to divide us more, while I'm on the subject of the world not working right.

s_peak, you're making lots of great comments today. When I was a young teen my family needed money (so I thought, what little I made washing dishes missing textbook time went to cigarettes and beer). So when I was at the restaurant there was this little guy couldn't hear. He worked two jobs, both dishroom stuff. He made nice paychecks added up tho. I've thought about him many times through the years. One night he stepped off the bus to walk home and a car hit him. They said tore his head off.

Well, my head hasn't had that yet but instead my life got torn off and also to a large extent my children. I worked at Double Envelope in Hollins but it was so loud there I left while I still had my hearing and learned to bake Dunkin' Donuts. I thought that learning a "good trade" would be a good thing to do.

That was 1971. I was tricked into accepting a "salary" which I thought meant good pay. I was paid $70.00 a week and the first 6 days I worked 70 hours. I was exhausted and slept 24 hours through Sunday. I've since learned my thyroid was actually inherited from the wrong parent. I was running on body energy no thyroid. I was to work for Dunkin' on & off on into 1981 and the pay rarely got better, and hospitalization wasn't anywhere to be had.

That was something people got in some far distant land.

Then I thought ya know, I believe I could be an excellent truck driver if I just had a shot, so we worked 5 jobs with one car while I attended school for 3 weeks in 1975. Was it a step up? Well, they had de-regulated trucking a few years before so the rats who got out started "schools" to pass their trade on to the suckers coming up like me who still thought driving a truck paid well, provided for the driver's family, buy a house, standard garbage my family never got.

I worked a lot more hours at Dunkin' and then even more hours driving [since trucks break down a lot, time spent in truckstop garages]. I was usually gone 125-150 hours a week, still didn't know my thyroid didn't work so I would pull over and crash my slumbering face right on the steering wheel sometimes for 8 straight hours.

And many of those jobs still no hospitalization, so we were among these poor crap Americans too irresponsible wuthless human being Americans to pay our own way. Yep, many was the time standing somewhere on the job, just like Dunkin' paid 2-3-4 cents a mile waiting for a tire to be mounted, waiting in line for hours unable to sleep having to move the truck up when the line moved then expected to resume driving and unload on time.

By 1978 we got a raise to 6 cents a mile, 4.3 if you were 2nd seat less senior co-driver. I had hospital coverage there though, but not enough "salary" to actually get much services done like dental, eyeglasses, liposuction, corrective surgeries of any kind. And then I remember the little dishwasher with his two minimum wage hourly pay paychecks and I have to say that "dumb" little man made more than I had made.

Caveat: the "physicians" continued to pass me through the D.O.T. driver's physicals til 1986 when all bleary eye tired and taking a drug for tennis elbow I stepped past the edge of a high straight truck bed and slammed into the ground. Since no thyroid meant I healed very little [+ v/slowly] when I was back doing long distance 1987-1989 I had a very fogged up mental going on and made a poor judgement that got me slammed with a 1,000 lb. bale that dropped 8 feet + bounced up & down on me 3 more times + propelled me forward at light speed and then vectored my chest down into the asphalt.

The little man died easy. My wife went to cleaning people's homes and they gave her her old children's throwaway toys so my boys could have something new. My middle son dead at 26 from the poison polio shot and sugar cubes I was given as a young man in school. We've all had the sh*t punched out of us but right now I'm about to get these Gravity Wheels licked yep, so I wrote to Lego to see if they wouldn't like a marshmallow in the fire.

Lego replied today, said they have plenty of marshmallows and don't accept outside ideas and oh, may your family have a great life. -Woodrow Marshall Riley of Roanoke Virginia said the above, April 19 2010, a blessed white Anglo-Saxon, + 25/50% in some places Hopi inventor and visionary.

p.s.

And I fully expect a heaven-based Jesus Christ to special deliver a judgement to this country soon in the battle of Armageddon so we can enjoy Peace on Earth from his Kingdom. All countries and worldly governments are to be replaced so that the words can be true "the Meek shall inherit the earth and find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace".

And I'll get my murdered son back, murdered dead by "Science" protecting the majority with their rushed-up production-line poison vaccines they used diseased monkey kidneys to develop... against a disease few people ever contracted, and of the ones who did most coughed it off like a cold.

oh... I'm proud ta be an AMERICAN where at least I know I'm Free blah blah blah so stand UP, blah blah blah... God bless the U S A.

I'm looking forward with great anticipation for that Blessing to reach terra firma US soil any day.

Some counseling might be a good idea, and tell the birds I said "hello"

Uh, okay. :)

I can't joke with you, this is serious. YOU need to seriously talk with someone. These are signs of delusion. Just talk with someone that can help you understand what is going on. The birds do indeed talk to one another. However, you do not have telepathy and they do not talk to you or others with your mind.

...can't see your hands...

...has anyone got a nug...

Yes you're correct. Psychic abilities are increasing in the US population. It has been increasing hand-in-hand with increasing of the wireless radiation that creates an "Energy Mesh" between us all. Our thoughts are not strong enough alone to have this level of psychic but aided by the wireless energy it is happening.

It gives a few people bragging rights they so desperately crave but the birds have very thin skulls the radiation penetrates. All these "free" phone services international calling is being offered us to get everyone to push against the limits of IP-4 so they can initiate IP-6 increased bandwidth.

It's my contention the radiation is easily passing through the soft belly,stomach and womb into the newly-conceived fetus~child in the hopes the radiation will speed up Evolution.

Uhm, in the meantime if you're hearing birds talking it could be you live in an area that has an extra intensity of this energy mesh. The radiation passes easily through soft human eyeballs and thereby directly entering into our brain.

I strongly suggest evasive action. You sir are the canary in the coal mine. You tell me the pregnant women in your area are in grave danger and their developing child. These college-educated money-driven and success-driven idiots oops entrepreneurs are considering your sickness and death -and the children- as acceptable collateral damage.

They are trying to cause the next Einstein.

where did you here this?

'...we need to stop fighting each other..'
Amen to dat brudda

I doubt you would say that if you had worked as a temp in the electronics industry because they didn't want to disrupt the bottom line with such things as benefits and they were as easy to dispose as Kleenex when they weren't needed.

Those 8 reasons are only the effects not the cause of the wage slavery. The cause is the same as it was during the time of the first transcontinental railroad. Lack of regulatory enforcement

No, I would and will again...

The ONLY slaves in this country ARE the Tea baggers and the RepublicanTs!