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No joke: South Carolina now requires ’subversives’ to register | South Caro-La-La-Land...

source: http://rawstory.com/2010/02/south-carolinas-subversive-activities-registration-act-force/

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Five-dollar registration fee for persons planning to overthrow US government

Terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions -- or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison.

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50 comments // No joke: South Carolina now requires ’subversives’ to register | South Caro-La-La-Land...

  • MotherForTruth
  • artemis6
  • CalgarC
  • MotherForTruth
  • desertcat
    • +1
      desertcat  

    • I wonder what terror group is going to have the first member to join? My money on the teabaggers. Have you ever seen one carry a sign with all the words spelled correctly.

    • 3 years ago
  • CalgarC
  • bentonon_11
    • +1
      bentonon_11  

    • To all you southerners out there, just wanted to apologize for my previous comment about southerner intelligence.. I was drunk and completely out of line. I've met plenty of southern geniuses who are good people and I was wrong in my statements. Please forgive me all beautiful southern folk??

    • 3 years ago
  • Joshua_Nyholm
    • 0
      Joshua_Nyholm  

    • This reminds me of Philip K. Dick's novella, "Minority Report." Before you even commit a crime the government knows, right when you think of something "subversive" the government already knows. Why don't we just install a TV that can watch us at every moment and tell us what to do at all times? Oh wait too late...

    • 3 years ago
  • bailey78
  • CalgarC
  • MirrorLake
    • +6
      MirrorLake  

    • Why don't they just add a little check box to the the census?

      Are you planning to overthrow the US Government?
      Yes [ ] No [ ]

      If yes, would you please describe when/where/how:
      ________________________________________
      ________________________________________
      ________________________________________
      ________________________________________

      Thank you.

    • 3 years ago
  • unimatrix0
  • Blimey_tudor
  • SleepDirt
  • bailey78
  • CalgarC
  • Progresshiv
  • Almibry
  • bailey78
  • Kamilo
    • +1
      Kamilo  

    • and it will get overthrown under judiciary review. Pay attention in civics class people, this isn't really news.
      Also just realized, this story is from 2 months ago! Why is it here?

    • 3 years ago
  • toyotabedzrock
  • bentonon_11
    • 0
      bentonon_11  

    • Dear lord! Defenders of southerner intelligence just CANNOT catch a break.. I know it's wrong to stereotype an entire region, but can't we just this one time? Please??

    • 3 years ago
  • Almibry
    • +1
      Almibry  

    • "...two or more persons, which directly or indirectly advocates, advises, teaches or practices the duty, NECESSITY or PROPRIETY OF CONTROLLING (emphasis mine), conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States [or] of this State." Aren't we supposed to control our government? Isn't that the whole point of democracy? You have to register to work with the system? So we're just supposed to bend over and take it, is that what the message is? STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!

    • 3 years ago
  • live4da206
  • bombastinator
    • +1
      bombastinator  
    • live4da206:

      One could always start for them I suppose. I wonder if one is allowed to register for OTHER PEOPLE. Could be a great revenue generator. Don't like someone? Spend five bucks and have him listed as a subversive. More fun than a flaming bag of poop on his front steps and you can do it from home.

    • 3 years ago
  • interditx
  • MotherForTruth
  • HowdyDo
    • 0
      HowdyDo  

    • This is just like the marijuana tax in Texas - it's illegal to possess, but if you don't have your tax stamps on your bag, it's another charge they can add on to the list. Is overthrowing the government that big of a problem in SC???

    • 3 years ago
  • good_stuff
    • +2
      good_stuff  

    • Well, at least they didn't take it too far... Individuals who want to overthrow the government don't have to register as long as they keep it to themselves.

      Wait, didn't the OK City and Unibomber act alone?

    • 3 years ago
  • obamaisajoke
  • live4da206
  • fun_size
  • bombastinator
    • 0
      bombastinator  
    • obamaisajoke:

      Um, I'm betting that law came from the republicans not the democrats. It's been a long time since South Carolina was known as a democratic hotbed. IIRC it's better known for it's low education levels, crushing poverty, and high rate of republican voting. It's amazing how those seem to go together.

    • 3 years ago
  • common_sense_please
    • +3
      common_sense_please  

    • By "subversive organization," the law means "every corporation, society, association, camp, group, bund, political party, assembly, body or organization, composed of two or more persons, which directly or indirectly advocates, advises, teaches or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States [or] of this State."

      Damn South Carolina -- this means no Tea Party conventions or KKK meetings or "birther" rallies or Democrat or Republican National conventions can be held in your state unless they register with the Secretary of State....way to screw up your tourist attractiveness and tell your almost former governor off for traveling to Argentina to be with his "soul mate".

      But I guess its a good thing it was Virginia that declared April Confederate History Month--because if South Carolina did that they it might have caused the governor further embarrassment and ethical hassles if he paid the $5 registration fee with tax payer money.

    • 3 years ago
  • common_sense_please
    • +1
      common_sense_please  

    • Irony--if I want to overthrow the government I need to pay the government and announce my intentions to overthrow them.

      Also this is basically an incentive to make every effort to succeed in overthrowing the government because --if I only attempt it and fail-- I get arrested for not registering. But if I succeed they no longer exist and thus can't arrest me for anything.

    • 3 years ago
  • Almibry
  • Gordie_Caie
    • +1
      Gordie_Caie  

    • "every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control,"

      Sounds like the US gov should register in SC.

    • 3 years ago
  • Incredulous
  • tylervictoria1
    • +1
      tylervictoria1  

    • this isn't a new law, we've actually had it since the 50's. trust me though, if anyone's planning a gov overthrow they're not registering and being from south carolina they probably don't even know what a subversive is.

    • 3 years ago
  • Humdrum
  • mitekillem
    • +1
      mitekillem  
    • tylervictoria1:

      If we didn't know what it was...why would we put it into a law. The definition is pretty much spelled out all over the article. It's to act on intentions of insurrection; or to plan to overthrow a government.

      Also...I'm pretty sure the 1st Amendment protects your speech, so even if you did talk or preach it, there's nothing they should be able to do legally.
      If protesters can use vitriolic signs at a marine's funeral, and be protected, so should everyone else.

    • 3 years ago
  • JonRaymond
  • bombastinator
    • 0
      bombastinator  
    • Image
    • Humdrum:

      Not if it's true.

      Let's look at the numbers. http://nces.ed.gov/naal/estimates
      The states with the lowest literacy rates are actually the ones bodering mexico because they only measure english literacy. If it was english/spanish the numbers might be different. So if we rempve places like California, texas, Florida (borders Cuba, same issue.), and New York (contains NYC, immagrent central fo over a hundred years) As of 2003 SC's illiteracy rate was 15%. That's only slightly under the national average but remember we are removing the two biggest states both of which have illiteracy rates approaching 25%. So all of a sudden 15% doesn't look so good any more.
      Now one interesting bit is how hard it is to find this data online. The official site doesn't even allow the states to be ranked in order, a point I find fascinating. We can, however, at least compare some states. Since this at least to some extent a republican/democrat thing let's try the most traditionally blue states. Minnesota: 6%. Maine, 7%. Wisconsin, 7%. Vermont, 7%. Less than half. Washington 10%. Illinos 13%, starting to get close, but it's not really all thattraditionally blue a state.
      Now let's look at som traditionally red states also known for being "ignorant". Alabama 15%. Arkansas 14%. (Well they did have Clinton for a while) West Virginia, 13%. That's illinos numbers but they don't have a major city on the order of Chocago as an excuse. Tennessee, 13% again with the same caveat as West virginia.

      Looks pretty accurate to me.

    • 3 years ago
  • tylervictoria1
  • Humdrum
    • +1
      Humdrum  
    • JonRaymond:

      You're not very constructive, are you? A country of 300,000,000 people has problems that need fixing, and you're just going to poo on the carpet? Perhaps the mindset that you are displaying is one of the many problems.

    • 3 years ago
  • timetide
    • +3
      timetide  

    • My first thoguht was: Are the "subversives" dumb enough to register? Because i know personnaly that if I'm trying to overthrow a country, announcing my intention to do so might be detrimental to my cause.

    • 3 years ago
  • HowdyDo
  • bailey78
  • regjoeschmo
  • donkeyfly69

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