Fox Poll: IRS beats Tea Party in popularity
source: http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0408/fox-news-poll-finds-irs-rates-americans-tea-party/
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After months upon months of enthusiastic, cheer-leading coverage of any rally that involved tea, tea bagging or tea partying, the Fox News network has miraculously disproved itself by producing a new poll that finds Americans think more highly of the Internal Revenue Service than they do the vocal conservative minority.Atop the fourth page of a Fox News Opinion Dynamics poll released April 8, the questioner explains that respondents would be read a series of names and asked whether their opinion is positive or not. The most popular among the names is Barack Obama, who scored a 50 percent approval rating. Second was the Internal Revenue Service, at 49 percent.
Down below Democrats and even below Republicans is the "Tea Party," at 36 percent approval. This particular poll's questions reference the "Tea Party" as though it were a unified group, akin to a third party actor, instead of what it really is: a disparate collection of middle to fringe right wing groups that originally came together as an organizing platform for Congressman Ron Paul, but were popularly coopted and briefly organized by old guard Republicans into a series of loud and angry demonstrations against the health reform laws.
Naturally, ratings for individual political leaders were lower than ratings given to entire political parties, but when asked about Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, respondents were especially harsh, giving them 16 and 29 percent favorability, respectively.
The only single politician who scored lower than Democratic leadership was House Minority Leader John Boehner, one of the GOP's top men and a key public face for the party, with just 12 percent approval.
Naturally, Fox News went on to ask poll respondents questions like how in-line they think their values are with the "Tea Party" and whether they were less likely to vote for their congressperson if they cast a yes ballot on health reform. They also asked people to rate how health reform made them "feel," set to a scale of "good" or "bad," and if they "feel" like the United States' economy will suffer because of the new laws.
The placement of the IRS in double-digits over the "Tea Party" in favorability is startling, especially considering how vocal most of the group's loudest activists are concerning taxes. Though virtually all lower and middle class Americans received a tax cut by President Obama, 90 percent of tea party respondents to a February CBS poll were oblivious to this fact.
"Fox’s poll finding is particularly humorous considering that a recent conservative attack on health care reform has been to falsely claim that it would lead to the hiring of 16,500 IRS agents to enforce the law," noted Matt Corley, writing for Think Progress. “'I suspect every Republican candidate will campaign on a promise to cut off all funding in January for the 16,000 IRS agents,' said Newt Gingrich recently. 'You don’t need a health Gestapo in the United States.'”
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2helenahandbasket
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Tea Party be damned, I think it's telling of this ridiculous poll that the IRS beat out EVERYONE except Barak Obama. The IRS is the second most popular item in the nation? LOL!!
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2helenahandbasket
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SleepDirt
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2helenahandbasket:
Tell that to Fox. They report, you decide.
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SleepDirt
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ddhboy
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Fox News will just report that as over a third of Americans belong to the tea party.
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ddhboy
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neocongo
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Two or three levels of irony in this post. Thanks SleepDirt!
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neocongo
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Davidod
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They DO deserve credit for releasing a poll that pretty much makes them look like fools, anyway. Wouldn't have thought they felt any need to do this, unless they're actually trying to live up to their "fair and balanced" slogan now, LOL!
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Davidod
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SleepDirt
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Davidod:
That they do. Except that it was most likely an accident
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SleepDirt
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MAssappeal
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I wonder if they would've had higher ratings if they embraced the "tea bagger" thing instead.
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MAssappeal
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Peloquin
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I would have joined the Tea Party if it wasn't $45.00 a plate. I haven't been able to afford to do anything with the Tea Party, and now I could care less about it. Their events are money makers for people with their own agenda. It's definatly no longer grass roots, not if the people they are trying to represent can't afford to input their own activism.
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Peloquin
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reeleyes
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im not surprised. as much as i dont like fox news, i still like to laugh and they are the best comedy on tv these days.
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reeleyes
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Kurta
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Wouldn't it be great if the IRS beat out Fox news in popularity? I'd rather lose money to the government than lose brain cells watching fox news.
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Kurta
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eden49
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"Can you hear the drums Hernandezsdfhhjj?
I remember long ago another starry night like this
In the firelight Hernandezsdfhhjj
You were playing with yourself and softly strumming your guitar
I could hear the distant guns
And sounds of bugle calls were coming from afar......"... - 3 years ago
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eden49
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SleepDirt
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Hernandezsdfhh? That you Jammer? They are on to you.
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SleepDirt
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Rockfanatic1016
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Irresponsible
Ravenous
statesmen - 3 years ago
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Rockfanatic1016
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Varex_Sythe
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I don't mind the IRS. But then again, I file my taxes early every year and I usually overpay my taxes so that I have a return.
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Varex_Sythe
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Rockfanatic1016
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choosing if you like the IRS or the tea party more is like choosing between a turd sandwich and getting kicked in the balls. I have to say i dislike the IRS more than I hate the tea baggers. one doesn't take my money and spend on shit i hate...
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Rockfanatic1016
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SleepDirt
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Rockfanatic1016:
Yeah, both do. Teabaggers don't realize how much they are the recipients of taxpayer largesse.
Red states receive more welfare than blue states. Conversely Blue states contribute more to the tax coffers.
"The results, when you crunch the fragmented state data, are striking. In 2003, according to the Tax Foundation data, the blue states contributed $966 billion to the federal Treasury and got $830 billion back. The reds paid $697 billion and received a whopping $909 billion. Welfare queens, indeed."
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SleepDirt
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UtopianSky
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I would love to see how FOX spins this.
Something like "50% of public hates Obama!" and "Effect of Liberal Media Lies about The Teabag Party!"
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UtopianSky
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Armageddon_Now
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I always felt left out because I drink my tea in private. Friggin' elitists.
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Armageddon_Now
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EdJoyProductions
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Did they forget how to write misleading poll questions or something?
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eden49
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...colour me confused...
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eden49
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nursediesel
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Where the hell did they find anyone that feels positive about the IRS?
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nursediesel
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Varex_Sythe
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nursediesel:
I don't mind the IRS. But the point isn't that people had more positive things to say about the IRS, the point is that people had more negative things to say about the teabaggers.
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Varex_Sythe
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UrbanGypsy
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nursediesel:
Either that or the Tea Party is REALLY unpopular.
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UrbanGypsy
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ocanada
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nursediesel:
Fifty percent of the nation gets a federal tax rebate.
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ocanada
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nursediesel
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ocanada:
Yeh, a great savings plan, huh? You pay the government extra money so they can use your earned money for what ever they feel is best and then refund the amount without even a thank you or (GEE WHIZ) interest. Wouldn't it be wild if we went back to: you paying the government taxes after you take home your pay. Nope, we'd actually miss the money then. And realize how much we give them. They take it out every pay so it feels like 'not much'. Maybe the polls should be in April !
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nursediesel
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SleepDirt
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nursediesel:
Why would you expect interest if the tax is not due to begin with?
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SleepDirt
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cmdinc
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SleepDirt:
not the brighest are ya.
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cmdinc
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nursediesel
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SleepDirt:
You don't get it do you? The government takes your money all year and uses it without giving you anything for borrowing it! Gee, you should start a bank. At least you'd get interest if you would put it in a saving account or a CD.. But I guess to most people it's a christmas account!
So can I borrow a couple thousand from you for the next year? I'll give some back in a year. - 3 years ago
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nursediesel
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SleepDirt
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cmdinc:
Smarter than you, but that's not saying much, is it?
With all you right-wingers snivelling about paying taxes, here you are awarded an exemption you have fought tooth and nail for and than you and the Diesel dufus and the rest of the teabaggers turn around whine about how the fucking government should pay interest on taxes withheld. Doesn't work that way, chump.
Taxes (and the interest which ardently feel you so richly deserve and can't stop bitching about) go toward the costs associated with running a nation that has 309,049,000 citizens.In your Utopian vision of the world, government would shrivel up and dissappear and corporations like Blackwater would rush in to fill the vacuum and we'd all live in the perfect Ayn Rand authoritarian fascist state.
If you don't like paying taxes, then I suggest that you and Nurse Ratchet...
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SleepDirt
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SleepDirt
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SleepDirt:
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Or the two of you could just charter a one-way, private, non-FAA-regulated filght to Somalia where you can live out your libertarian dream.
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SleepDirt
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cmdinc
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SleepDirt:
zzzzz..zzzz oh um ok what was it you were saying???
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cmdinc
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treewolf39
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This is sad because people in america should be upset with their government. Blame the corporate media for grabbing and promoting the crazies over reporting the truth of the nation and the true affect of the policies our nation embraces.
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treewolf39
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UtopianSky
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treewolf39:
I don't think people are truly A-OK with the government- it's just with all of the nutjobs out there openly attacking the government it makes it look good in comparison.
Imagine of a bunch of vegetarians started terrorizing McDonalds: bombing restaurants, distributing false stories about burgers made out of roaches, attacking customers, stalking owners and managers, etc.
People's reactions would be "sure McDonald's is bad, but it's not THAT bad. chill out."
I think that's what we are seeing here.
There is no way 49% of people actually like the IRS. It's just compared to the teabagger nutjobs, most people realize the IRS is a necessary evil.
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UtopianSky
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CarlosIsDown
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treewolf39:
Should the tea party denounce or do nothing about the nut jobs in their ranks?
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CarlosIsDown
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treewolf39
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CarlosIsDown:
Here is the problem Carlos. How to sever Glenn Beck from the Ron Paul. Oh and then there is the southern race issue. Needed is someone who is louder then Fox with enough creditability to lay out the beliefs of the Tea Party party.
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treewolf39
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treewolf39
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UtopianSky:
HOW Fucking long, do you propose, we let McDonald's poison our families?
Perhaps the media could concentrate on a less radical portion of the Party. I really don't like the way the government murders people with the money they collect through the IRS.
BTW all good ideas for eliminating fast food.
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treewolf39
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SleepDirt
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UtopianSky:
True. I find myself defending Obama when in fact I find many of his policies indefensible. Especially state secrets, civil liberties and 'defense' issues.
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SleepDirt
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UtopianSky
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treewolf39:
I have a feeling what I wrote flew over your head.
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UtopianSky
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UtopianSky
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SleepDirt:
Me too- Obama is a great politician, but he is a politician.
Like it or not, all politicians have a sleazy side to them.In a way, the nutjobs attacking his birth certificate, his religion, and his teleprompter make it impossible to criticize him on his legitimate failings.
Without realizing it, the teabaggers are HELPING Obama, by making it look like all voices of opposition must be crazy.
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UtopianSky
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treewolf39
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UtopianSky:
Not quite. I just don't agree. Americans are pissed but what are we supposed to do? We voted for change and we got the same. The tea party is the loudest of a very reactionary group fanned by crazy politicians and talk show hosts. These people do not represent the real dissatisfaction across the country.
The tea party might disappear if they weren't touted as news every night.
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treewolf39
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SleepDirt
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UtopianSky:
I agree. though, as far as I can tell Bernie Sanders is an exception, though someone might be able to find legitimate cause to claim otherwise.
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SleepDirt
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Dagum
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Faux!
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Dagum
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CaptSutter
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Of course it really unfair to lump all of the tea party crowd into one box. I suppose the truth is that the most visible "tea party" is the astro-turf variety. Basically the thugs and hooligans you can sweep off the street offering them a free weekend bus ride to DC and back.
It sounds a bit like Tammany hall. The astro-turf crowd is a very effective political machine and calling its foot-soldiers the "base" is a bit insulting to the thinkers and activists who started the "tea-party" movement back with Ron Paul.
My guess would also be that the racists and homophobes are more "the easily led" rather than "the leaders and thinkers."
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CaptSutter
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SleepDirt
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CaptSutter:
Quinnepac poll
Tea Party movement---
* 74 percent are Republicans or independent voters leaning Republican;
* 16 percent are Democrats or independent voters leaning Democratic;
* 5 percent are solidly independent;
* 45 percent are men;
* 55 percent are women;
* 88 percent are white;
* 77 percent voted for Sen. John McCain in 2008; - 3 years ago
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