TIME Magazine Lists Fluoride as "Environmental Toxin"

DId you? Apparently not.

Haha... touché! That is correct. I am simply playing devil's advocate. I hate to see people making science fit their desired result.

One should note that fluoride occurs naturally in many water sources and in some areas must be removed in order to achieve the allowable levels for human consumption.

Also note that the World Health Organisation has set "healthy" levels of fluoride at between 0.5 to 1.0 mg/l.

Okay, now i'm scared. "formation of beta-amyloid plaques (the classic brain abnormality in Alzheimer's disease)"

Ugh. Plaques?

Kind of explains why Alzheimer's is so prevalent now days.

Uh... no. Poor diet and too much TV explains the prevalence of Alzheimer's.

You obviously don't do any research and reading. Just jump on a thread and start popping off at the mouth. Not saying poor diet isn't a factor but you need to read the research and see just how much Fluoride does contribute to it. And that is Fluoride added to the drinking water, not so much the toothpaste.

Sorry Snag, I am a firm believer that proper diet, combined with regular brain exercise (like crossword puzzles or IQ style tests), along with complete body exercise, are the best prevention for Alzheimer's.

The major studies that associate fluoride with Alzheimer's seem to be talking about levels much higher than those used in water treatment. Also, the problems with fluoride and aluminum cookware show that the problem was the aluminum, not the fluoride. However, the problem occurred because the fluoride caused the aluminum to leach into the water.

To be clear, I don't support it's addition to drinking water. But fluoride has been clearly proven to reduce tooth decay. So I fully support it's use in toothpaste. Just don't swallow.

I do worry that some areas of the world provide supposedly "safe" drinking water that still contains unhealthy levels of heavy metals and other undesirable elements.

Some people choose to drink bottled water, but we are seeing more and more studies showing problems with quality control.

The simple answer, use a good filter at home and insist on filtered water when you are away from home. And, no, I don't sell water filters... ;-)

is "fucks up" the actual medical term used or..

:p

I found it appropriate LOL

it 'fuckin' should be.

ow, my Wernicke's area hurts.

There is no easy cure or medication that heals diabetes (eating healthy in most cases can prevent it), liver cirrhosis (not doing drugs and alcohol and safe sex), HIV/AIDS (safe sex), cancer (there are a multitude of reasons, genetic and chemicals), heart related issues (eating healthy, genetic predisposed).

It all comes down to the companies provide something that helps people. There is no legislation that can be passed to force them to find cures. The NIH try to find cures, but they don't pay as well as the private industry.

Where I do think there should be legislation changes are the price gouging that occurs in the U.S. In Canada, Europe. All three regions pay different amounts for the exact same medications at the same strengths. The companies state that they require money for further research and thus they can jack our prices up. I believe that the costs should be spread across the spectrum to all countries and not just the U.S.

I also think that GNC should have the products they sell be regulated by the FDA. I am able to make some weight loss powder in my garage and get a nice label and buy some ads in a health magazine and have NO ONE monitor what I am doing. It is a billion dollar industry.

Thanks for responding.

I'm still skeptical of the research made for curing things. Why would they fund research for a cure that makes no profit when they could fund the research for a treatment. For them to be funding cures that wont make them as much money would be assuming that they care about the welfare of the people. I think they care about the people as much as Wal-Mart pretends to on their commercials.

I definitely agree with what you said on the FDA regulation laws. I really like your analogy too. It's ridiculous how many bottles are labeled "not evaluated by the FDA."

I concur, these corporations would make no money off of a cure. However, they could garner billions off of a lifetime's supply of a medication. Death will most likely ensue if you don't take the meds. The only silver lining is that after 15 or so years other companies can make a generic form of the drug to reduce the price. So after 15 years it will get cheaper. I don't know if that is much consolation for you though.

They no longer fund research in colleges , to find NEW cures because , it is now focused on finding new uses for old patentable drugs . Statins for children recently , for instance . Statins , hormone replacement therapy , anti depressants , ritalin for add . birth control . You do have good observation skills . In india , for years , there has been a birth control shot that men can get annually . It will not be promoted , to little profit in it . And what of medicinal herbs ? They cannot be patented , therefore , no profit in them . Fluoride ? Industrial waste , that would have to be expensively disposed of . Profit ? Oh yeah . If they were nationalized , that might help . A LOT . Simply because they have no real interest in an individual's health , but getting everyone on drugs THEY can patent . The HIV cocktail , is one good example . Old dugs with a new use . There will be no cure for aids , just expensive , drawn out , robbery .

Fight back! Screw big pharma! Stay healthy with proper diet and excercise. And always research alternative treatments when your body needs a bit of help. If your doctor prescribes something, ask them about herbal alternatives, or find another professional for a second opinion.

Voted up. Excellent find. I agree with you. It should be a choice. You should be able to buy fluorinated water if you want it but should not be forced to drink it if you don’t. As the website, says "there are many equally effective and less-intrusive ways of delivering fluoride to people who actually want it, " than putting it in the water supply and I am sure there is still a market for people who want fluorinated water.

Now, having said that people should have the right to choose. We have had fluoride in the water for over 50 years now. It is not going to be something that comes about readily. There are govt officials that are entrenched in delivering this item for the welfare of the children. It really does help maintain a good dentition. However, it does have to remain a right of the populace whether or not they have white teeth.

On a side note, it is still construed as child abuse to let your child suffer with tooth decay and gum disease. Neglect, and CPS can ask you to help the child, and if refused can take custody of the child so that someone can assist the child seek medical care and not suffer. The kids are innocent. As adults it just gets expensive and most insurance programs only cover $1200 a year for general items, and usually only 50-80%. So I am all about fluoride. I add it to my cheerios in the morning for good measure (just kidding about the cheerios, hahahha).

lol. You would be surprised what people add to their cereal. I heard someone on this website claim they added booze to theirs every morning, and judging from the character of his/her comments, I would say it was most likely true!

There is nothing wrong with getting a morning drink....as long as it has flu...just kidding, hahaha.

That is like saying well I already have cancer who cares about my diabetes. Just because there are bigger fish to fry doesn't mean that this is not a fish!

Can fluoride kill you and cause cancer? Well yes, but if anything is taken in abundance it can do damage. This was a vast Communist conspiracy back in McCarthy's day, but to listen to its resurgence is almost comical. Except, that I think there are people that are serious. Ask your dentist and start looking up scientific (quantitative and not qualitative) research. New England Journal of Medicine and look up some studies done by the FDA. The FDA is in charge of ensuring our safety, and since we place this in our water and it affects our dentition, I think we would be remiss if we didn't contact the ADA (American Dental Association) for their opinion.

You name a drug that you have taken and look up the first 15 possible side effects that are listed. All of these drugs can lead to death or cancer if taken in abundance (over-dosing).

Get it, over dosing means that you take to much for your body to handle. We also have cyanide in our water at small levels too. Are you suggesting we not drink water at all? If you want to stop brushing your teeth with toothpaste it is all good. Don't take the optional fluoride rinses from the dentist either. But to spread fear about fluoride??? I am going to need some reliable sources that are scientifically based, and not a magazine trying to sell their commodity. Show me some scientific research, some evidence that shows we are in danger.

Where did you learn about the pineal gland being calcified by chemicals?

So what you're saying is that everyone who was born and raised in a location that doesn't fluoridate their water can levitate objects with the power of their "third eye"?

POE
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My understanding is that:

1. Fluoride builds up in our bodies.
2. Most cities add extra fluoride to the tap water.
3. Most of the food crops in the U.S. are watered with this same, extra-fluoridated tap water.
4. We eat these crops and end up consuming huge amounts of fluoride as a result.
5. This does not even take in to account the additional sources in the form of toothpaste, pills and various dental recommendations.
6. Most of the fluoride does not know to go to our bones and so accumulates throughout of entires system, causing serious health problems.

Thank you for posting these informative ideas. I agree with you completely. Chemicals can be dangerous if not taken in the proper amounts.

1. Does fluoride build up in our teeth? Or where are you referring to does this chemical manifest? What studies from the New England Journal of medicine suggest that this supposedly dangerous drug pose a threat to us?
2. In cities that are in colder environments where people do not consume as much water will place 4 to 6 parts per million ( that is 4 particles out of 1 million particles). People that live in Arizona in the summer will historically drink more water than someone say in Anchorage, Alaska. So you are correct, but you made it sound sinister.

Fluoride is present in most foods and water so you can't avoid ingesting it unless you're prepared to stop eating and drinking. However, fluoride is water soluble and doesn't accumulate in our bodies. It mineralizes in bones and teeth ( which is why dentists like it). Fact is you pee out 99.9% of what you ingest and the rest leaches out of bones and teeth over time if it isn't replenished.

I live in the red zone...
Time to look up advanced home water filtration systems.

Now pesticides is something that I can agree with. This is something that is dangerous in our communities and does affect our livers and kidneys in a negative manner.

I'd take them off it, just in case. When I was a kid, my doctor prescribed some medication for me that caused suicidal tendencies (so I am a little biased), but he didn't know that at the time. The field of pediatrics is always changing, trust your gut.

the more research you do on flouride the more you'll realize that you should def. not be useing flouride on your daughters. I learned this the hard way, after a nurse used flouride on my sister and lied to me saying they were just vitamins. This incident def. made me question how safe flouride is and prompt me to look into it.

Ask your dentist, but brushing technically once a day is fine. Use a modified bass technique, small circular strokes at an angle that points at the gum line. You can technically use water and a toothbrush. You are just trying to get off the white stuff (plaque) that builds up and will later turn into a rock (calculus). That is the stuff that you can feel with your tongue. The calculus will irritate the gums over time and will cause them to pull away from the rocky barnacles (calculus) that builds up. So as long as you take that white film off your childs or your teeth you are good. Fluoride will strengthen the enamel and prevent caries from eating away at the enamel. Your dentist will have really cool photos to describe. They make money either way.

I strongly suggest NOT using baking soda, it is very abrasive and will eat away your enamel. This will expose something called dentin tubules and cause you experience tooth sensitivity. Which at that point you will require Sensodyne toothpaste or an application of some special goo from the dentist on your teeth.

DO NOT let your children or animals eat a tube of toothpaste. It could get them sick and have future problems. Just like vitamins can hurt your child (Flintstones) if they consume to many of them related to the Iron. Iron can be dangerous if taken in large amounts by children.

Be skeptical in all things and research for yourself. Talk to your local dentist and try not to mention that you read something off the internet and it scared you. You might get a smirk, hahaha.

Never mind sorry, my bad.

This doesn't look like something from the dentist office, it looks more like something from a farm. I think if you were to take a handful of pure fluoride and ingest it that you would be in the ER shortly.

What’s worse is that it is added to most municipal water supplies in the U.S. and Europe. Unless you have a well, every time you drink a glass of tap water, you are ingesting Fluoride, ostensibly to help your teeth.

The upside is most water filters will remove most of (if not all) it.

An Activated Alumina Defluoridation Filter or Reverse Osmosis Filtration system are the only two ways to remove fluoride from water.

Most water filters such as Brita, Pur, contain carbon filters which do not remove fluoride.

The most effective way to remove fluoride is Reverse Osmosis Filtration but a ROF system is not really affordable by most people< including myself ;(.

I didn't know that... hmm. +^'d