Female Sex Tourism Flourishes

+^d Worthy observations.

Interesting observations , thank you .

So, what you are saying is, you are a sad, uptight old man, yearning for the days before women's liberation, when men and women were socially constructed archetypes that all must conform to, instead of simply the two sexes of humanity.

You are right- the men of your age and those who are younger ARE as different as night and day- too bad you are so confused as to which ones are living in the dark ages, and which are in the light.

there are times WIS, that your talking too much is just arrogant howling wind, and then there are moments when your point of view is compelling...and while I may only occasionally agree with you, you have my respect for knowing why you believe what you believe, and speaking your mind.

Instead the women community is calling this "liberating".

hmmm, I guess I haven't been keeping up, but I haven't read any comments from women calling this type of behavior liberating. Most of the women commenting here are advocating for equality in the sense that what is wrong is wrong and what is right is right, and it is not a gendered distinction.

who are these militant feminists you love to refer to? I suspect they are a dying breed, a holdover, perhaps, from the inception of a movement, but I have yet to encounter one of them on current, and there is a pretty diverse representation of women on this site.

Your comment is either based on a lack of critical thinking skills and strong belief you know “what is wrong is wrong and what is right is right” or it is based on your belief that you are an experienced expert in feminism, the "liberating" expressions, and societal female/male balance trends.

and I presume you got all that from your crystal ball?

although you completely missed the point of what I was attempting to say

Thats why you always need 2 boys,....( doing a mans job and all that.)

-----sorry,...that WAS a joke

LOL.... BEST LINE THIS YEAR!!

Wow. Complete wastes of life; I'm sorry, it's true. These kids need to get their act together. You know what I do with my Spring Break? I do more studying. I still have a social life, a girlfriend, a job... But come on.

I speak to both the guys and girls seen in this video.

Its kinda hard for any girl to have respect for these sluts other than their worth as dicks.

*whoosh* is the meme, I believe.

You totally took what LinXitoW said out of context.

This video's editing is just about as annoying as the people it's about.

Oh, and it's funny, because I go to UCSB, so I'm around these type of people all the time. Hell, I live with some of them.

Halloween here is just *spectacular*.

Maturity level =/= GPA level. I've drank before, and I've been on both sides: these girls (and guys) are pretty irresponsible in these videos.

To go on Spring Break with the intention (direct or indirect) of randomly getting laid? Yes, I'm calling them sluts.

You GO GIRL!!

I repent my "waste of life" remark. That was uncalled for. However, you still do not (and cannot) deny the fact that the majority of the girls in this video are, indeed sluts. The fact of the matter is yes, you can party on spring break and still do well in school - that's fine and you probably can achieve a good GPA; unless of course you party throughout the semester--in which case I must question your "best college" statement when, at the best colleges, there is no room for partying unless you're majoring in basket weaving.

But to expose yourself, especially as a woman like that (to people you don't know) is completely reckless and IS irresponsible, which leads to an immaturity issue. Talk of rape and being jumped by men, using acid, having alcohol poisoning... Tell me, choirtramps23, are these all virtues of mature women with 4.0GPAs? Would I want ANY of the women in this video to be in any position of rank--such as a lawyer, doctor, politician, etc.? Hell no. I barely want them flipping burgers. I am not generalizing anyone; and please do not attempt to use logical fallacies on me.

edit: this is classic:

Choirtramps23: "Be careful who you generalize.

It's common for sexually repressed people to harbor resentment against those comfortable with expressing sexual intimacy."

And you somehow achieved a 4.0 and are now in law (or have completed)? Damn, I may go to med school. For the record, I am not sexually repressed; so, in your own words--Be careful who you generalize.

Thank you for posting this video, it is an eye opener.

If they want sex a lot, what's the problem? As long as they're careful about STDs.

Ha. The term slut does not mean openly sexual women. Women that are in tune with their sexuality are more selective about the men they sleep with, and tend to take into account that drinking until they're fall down drunk and tripping on acid increases their chances of being raped, (especially when all they're wearing is a couple of stamps and a post-it.) Slut is used when a women is promiscuous because of an apparent lack of self respect and suddenly ceases to care who's fucking her. Furthermore, I'm not sure the words, "passionate" or "erotic" are too fitting for any woman that says, "I just wanna get laid." Something about the word "laid" doesn't prompt anything erotic. The only image that comes to mind is a drunken gang bang. Every woman wants to be made love to. But a slut wants the momentary feeling of importance and physical(but not quite emotional) connection sex appears to give them; and of course they are forever running through a never ending stream of guys because the guys could care less about them as people. They have vaginas and not enough brains to use them wisely, and that's how the college guys like tthem. And they fit right into "I'm not the brightest bulb, but look, I have boobs, and uh, yeah, please just like me."

If you really have a 4.0, you'll realize that you don't have to flaunt your body openly to get attention from guys. I know you apparently love your body, but would you really walk into a group full of college guys, and blame them for following their instinct as men to sow their seed? You were just begging to get raped. And it reflects poorly on you. You put yourself in a situation that promoted the end result. Do you honestly think men are going to stand their and be completely unmoved by a nude women, completely unprotected, when they can easily get away with it?

I'm not opposed to nudity in the slightest. I'm training to be a nurse and I think the human body is beautiful, but you can't expect things to be peachy keen when a bunch of underage girls knowingly go drinking with random men wearing next to nothing, and end up getting raped and assaulted because of it. They are all old enough to know that men like the female body and that alcohol impairs their minds. So you can stop protecting stupid girls who were probably told countless times by their parents about the importance of not getting drunk on spring break. Drinking is fine, but in responsible amounts. Getting fucked up in any place other than your home or a close friend's house is a bad end waiting to happen and only YOU are to blame.

And maybe trying to boost these girls' self esteem by assuring them their actions aren't slut worthy will help them to overcome their lack of self esteem....or....perhaps it will just reinforce their behavior as sluts. I knew plenty of girls in school who would sleep with way too many guys, and they even seemed to enjoy other girls hating them. They believed that the girls envied them. But really, we, myself included in this, were just disgusted by their lack of restraint and self respect.

So maybe you should watch the video again, Ms. Smarty, and notice that the only person saying anything intelligent the entire movie, is the cab driving mother. Everyone else is getting fucked up, raped, assaulted, tripping, and basically overduing the party scene. I like to party too, but not drinking water while drinking, lying to your parents about your drug use and only doing it because you're a sheep, seem like pretty stupid party favors. And I won't be surprised if you attempt to say that I'm generalizing. But I'm a woman too. The girls in that video could not have had 4.0s in anything other than dick sucking.

I want to address your sexually repressed counter, first.

A suggestion within this context is typically indicated by a direct or indirect question with some veil of uncertainty. I saw no direct or indirect question; rather, I saw a declaration that--at best--was a complete assumption, not a suggestion. "Based on your comments," your mind has been made up to believe that I am sexually repressed. You were not "hinting at a possibility" as you falsely indicate. This is irrelevant, anyway, as I am fine with nude beaches, fine with responsible sex, with women who want to show their breasts as men flaunt their chests in public; fine with being open about sex with my parents, with my future kids when necessary, as well as occasionally going to the adult store or even having a casual discussion about sex with friends of both gender. If there is any more uncertainty about my supposed sexual repression, please indicate.

Well, choirtramps--either you're a genius, or that "best college in the country" doesn't particularly make me admire your 4.0 if you could party as much as you claim to have. Of course, this all falls to opinion, and what each of our definitions of a good school really is.

I stand by my statement that I am not generalizing. I'm calling a spade a spade. This isn't a matter of free roaming nude beaches in Europe, choirtramps. What you say about Europe is partially true that yes, nudity is looked at in a much more liberal manner (though Europe isn't without rape, either). Unfortunately for us, though, American men still seem to be more vulnerable to their instincts (Do note, I attack not only the women, but the men in that video as well). You cannot contrast a culture elsewhere in the world when we are discussing America. By your logic, a woman should walk down back alleys in NYC--just because she should be capable of doing so--and ignore the inherent and real danger of being kidnapped/robbed/raped/murdered.

I'm not sure if you want me to cite my resources now, but I would say that it is a fact that Spring Break (for the type of women in discussed video) greatly increases the risk of rape, injury, and generally--bad habits. Again, I don't want anyone who has been dropping acid looking after my kid in the Hospital. So whether a woman should be capable of what she is doing or not is irrelevant; what stands is reality--and YOU are at an increased risk when your judgment is impaired. The men are highly at fault, too; so don't paint me a woman hater. Spring Break takes the smart girls and turns them into blabbering materialistic idiots. I'm not saying you cannot party or drink, but as said, be responsible about it.

At the beginning of this discussion, you were defending the women in this video blindly--claiming what they were doing was not wrong, and that you yourself did this. You are defending these women because you see yourself as one, and do not like the notion of being called a slut, yourself. Now in light of further discussion, you are claiming that the girls in this video (as selective as it is, I agree, yet strongly brings to front the issue at large) still need to grow up and "have a lot of learning to do." So, are they immature or not? :-). People can change to a certain extent, yes, and I know the people in this video are out there in the world with substantial positions of authority. I would still prefer, however, the individual who was responsible his or her whole life. I'm going to assume a bit (bear with me): I believe when given the choice, every employer would, too.

I'm addressing a problem that I don't expect to change: America's teenage population hides behind its stereotypical immaturity. Because most teenagers and young adults are looked at as reckless, these young men and women know nothing more is expected of them, and thus continue following suit. When is the wake-up call? At which point, is it too late?

If someone does not call these girls sluts, then it is very possible that is what they will always be. Judging by context (a connection by logic, nevertheless an assumption), you admit these girls are sluts, you just don't believe in directly calling them by the word, slut. Do you believe they'll wake up one day, then suddenly decide to stop sleeping around randomly (I've been neglecting to touch on the topic of STD's, too), drunkenly? Living in ignorance is going to have more of an impact on their bad habits than temporarily lowering their self-esteem for the betterment of their lives in the long term.

If women want to expose themselves carelessly to men, then somehow feel protected by the fact that they "should" be able to expose their body without dire consequences, then they are free to do so. Still won't stop the rape. Still won't stop the STDs and drugs. Still immature. You are right, choirtramps, these women have the right to be (more elegantly put by request) openly lustful and... Carefree. Still, it won't benefit them in any way.

Consider your children. Would you not worry about your daughter going on spring break, not even a little after watching this video and having done the same things, too? Someday, when I'm a father, I don't think I could sleep when there is a high probability that my daughter is doing everything I've spoken out against. I will always encourage a safe environment to drink/smoke/have sex in; spring break is not a safe environment.

If word games truly do not interest you, don't take offense to what we on the other side call your type, sluts. Embrace it.

Because the "courts" agree, truly means nothing outside of the "Justice system" when determining what is truly right, or wrong. Don't let the indoctrination of law school impair your judgment outside of the court room; it presents you with little backing, and lowers your ethos in discussion.

I'm glad the girls recognize their mistake after the fact, but where is the premonition or logic for preventing the girl from getting raped in the first place? Empathy dictates I should feel bad for the girl; she probably didn't know what she was getting into. However, If she lacks the forethought to avoid those situations in the first place, I have little sympathy. In contrast to what you said, it should be regarded who is to blame.

If you care about yourself and your gender, then why are you so against the mistakes I'm pointing out which lead to a lifetime of "trauma," for these girls?

Hypocrisy once again. A, "self-righteous shrew" is vague; and by all definitions--each of us in this discussion could be defined as one, so do not exclude yourself. You, too, have made Ad Hominem attacks, Choirtramps.

Guess I'll make one, too: Just curious, are you defense or prosecutor? Because you're much smoother with defending than attacking.

("I suggest you spend less time judging your classmates and concentrate on your own self worth."......"Nobody likes a self-righteous shrew.") Direst quote from you.Hmmm...Seems a little bit like you're judging me. And 'shrew' must be slang, right? Though you may not have time for "word games", I have plenty of time to weed out your hypocritical statements. And you, true to form, will dismiss me as whatever negative adjective you can find in your pocket thesaurus, perhaps "juvenile" or "irrelevant" or "abhorrent". But the truth of the matter is, you don't even focus on anything other than defacing me when you ought to be focused on the actual topic, future lawyer. Good luck persuading a jury with that.

I know my own self worth. But I'm not prepared to feel bad for women who facilitated their own demise. And again, you fail to address the fact that they themselves were in some form responsible. I do feel empathy for people, but not people that make the same mistake reapeatedly, after receiving counsel on their problem, and continue to bitch and moan about it.

Again, the actual formal use of the word slut has a meaning. I don't go around calling women sluts just for having lots of sex. It's the way they conduct themselves with it, that EARNS them that title. And I openly concede that I have no right to title them this, because human beings SHOULD not be judgmental, but we are. And I am. And they judge me right back, sometimes in the form of a shrew, maybe a little self-righteous, even compassionless.

If you will hold men to their actions, then hold women to the same standard. A woman knows the effects of alcohol. I won't advocate rape, but I will advocate more intelligent use of women's brains. If you drink...you may be unable to properly distinguish between right and wrong, obviously. So perhaps getting wasted or high out of your mind, is not a good formula for a safe night. The girls were even laughing about the fact that they got "lost on the beach." They are partially responsible. America is not a playground. There are people that don't give two shits about moral rightness, and they prowl on women. Women need to get a clue, and protect themselves by not allowing the situation to even take place.

So using your 4.0 GPA, and your ability to party hard too, don't apply to these girls and the way they're behaving. Did you get fall down drunk? Lie to your parents? Did you even get raped? The video has truth to it, or it wouldn't spark a need in you protect them, which is you just trying to justify YOUR own irresponsibility. Come up with an argument about their actions, something more than just trying to call me names. A 4.0 law student should be able to do that, even if she's partying.

Well, thank you for not calling me any names. And you've made valid points, which I can say I agree with.Your depiction of the beach scene sounds a bit innocent when I compare it to what was shown in the video, but I agree that people need to experience things. I just wish girls could have a bit more hindsight. As long as they learn from their actions, I see no reason to hold their mistakes against them.

And I apologize for the remark made to the Leonard boy. Just felt a little bent about the shrew comment.

Guys cannot be blamed for "following their instinct as men to sow their seed," simply because they "like the female body" and "alcohol impairs their minds?" WTF?

So a girl cannot be recklessly under the influence, but a guy can?

"Its kinda hard for any guy to have respect for these sluts other than their worth as holes"

WTF kind of retarded statement is that? people are products of society, and the media bombards us with images of sex everywhere we look, take a look at your own life before you put down other, oh and btw, your mother was a hole too!

oh and this isn't modern feminism, this is women trying to act like men!

PLEASE stop with your ridiculous uneducated ignorant words, they are burning my eyes!

"It's common for sexually repressed people to harbor resentment against those comfortable with expressing sexual intimacy" Most intelligent sentance i've read all day

@jake leonard: And you somehow achieved a 4.0 and are now in law (or have completed)? Damn, I may go to med school. For the record, I am not sexually repressed; so, in your own words--Be careful who you generalize......

yeah sure your not sexually repressed!

Key word is "common," not factual. Moreover, whether this is truly a valid statement or not has not actually been discussed. Don't make presumptions on me, Caroline, just because you disagree with my reasoning. You're attacking me, not my argument. You join the discussion by taking a side, then ambiguously misinterpret what people say; on top of that, you reply with insults and feeble attempts at harming my self-esteem. Makes me realize how intelligent choirtramp's replies are.

Now if you cannot actually analyze what choirtramps and I have been discussing, please keep to your ignorant self. You honestly sound like a little child. "I'm not sexually repressed, YOU ARE!" "Nuh-uh!" "Sure..." That style of arguing--rather fighting--is reminiscent of the days when I was six...

See? I can attack you, too. Especially since you did not provide me with any logical counter-argument to disprove or concede to.

Maybe people shouldn't look to the media for guidance on how they're supposed to live their lives...? I sure do not.

I definitely don't want women to start acting like men. There are many times when I see what my gender has done or how we act, and I just lower my head. These women can think for themselves, don't blame media or society for their actions.

Critical thought is on a separate plain from right and wrong altogether, I agree. In law, you are taught the art of persuasion, not necessarily the art of truth; are you not?

You bypassed my entire point regarding calling the girls sluts. Correct me if I'm wrong, but originally, you deemed the girls within the video not to be sluts. Now, you just do not wish to call them that merely for the sake of helping them, or supporting their self-esteem. Your stance has changed, has it not?

I view this Ad hominem fallacy is a fallacy with regards to the argument as a whole, not a specific point. When we are discussing the girls in this video, whether they are called sluts or not, whether it's appropriate to call them that, etc., then you punch low with sexual repression (as one example), I would consider that an Ad Hominem fallacy by redirecting the discussion to ME when you should be directing your statements to my arguments presented in my posts; and every one of my posts has had an argument pertaining directly to the original point of this discussion. You're essentially saying that because you assume I'm sexually repressed, my reasoning/argument is invalid. This is most definitely a fallacy; though perhaps it's more closely related to the Fallacy of Opposition.

In all honesty, what is your focus in international law? What career fields are there upon graduation?

"The justice system is the only thing that separates society from an ethical reality. To view law school as 'indoctrinating' contradicts the fundamental purpose of law school- critical thought."

Maybe I misinterpreted this slightly vague statement. By separating society from an ethical reality--after you declare right and wrong subjective concepts pertaining to individual ethics in the real world--you said exactly what I reiterated (perhaps without meaning to); that critical thought is separate from the morals of "right" and "wrong," in law school/the court room. This equivocation is getting tiresome.

So what, exactly, are you taught? I concede that I do not know much about law school.

If slut apparently has multiple definitions, why are you arguing against my viewpoint and judgment, especially when, whenever I talk about the word--you bring up your definition as if it is truly the correct definition. I understand your definition of the word. Regardless of your supposed arguments, you retaliated with aggression rather than reason on my mere opinion. There are several different perspectives which really cannot be argued. While you're talking about the usage of the word, slut, I'm discussing the maturity and the foresight which these girls lack. In fact, maybe my argument has succeeded, for all I wanted you to realize was that these girls were careless and irresponsible; since you admit to that in an earlier post, I will call this argument done.

Some reflection:

You view these girls as young and needing to grow up (gain maturity is implied, here). They are sluts in your eyes, but of a different definition; yet whenever someone else uses the word slut, you interpret it as the general definition it is given by most, and not your own. Calling them a slut will lower their self-esteem, thereby continuing to make them sluts.

Furthermore, sex with many people is okay in your eyes--and that's fine; I honestly don't care. With these matters, it's like arguing which food tastes better.

I will view these girls as young and needing to grow up, all the while calling them what I believe they are, sluts (to my definition). My definition is a woman who sleeps around for the instantaneous moment of pleasure; who views sex separate from love. Most importantly, a slut is reckless, and oftentimes puts herself into bad situations and thus lacks foresight. I won't say it directly to them, but indirectly--like on a message board such as this. Perhaps it may cause reflection for some who read this. As you said, with many of the situations that these girls get themselves into, it will cause them trauma for the rest of their lives. Play with fire--or men, drugs, and sex--you're going to get burned, unfortunately.

I called the women wastes of life in the video; that was uncalled for. I already conceded to that (though it was not a generalization, more an invalid statement). You missed this one: You addressed the maturity level of the women in the video; by feeling like the victim, you used yourself as a representative for the women in the video (sort of a generalization). Because you're able to maintain good grades in school does not exclude the fact that these women get themselves into easily avoidable "situations." Once again, you close saying slut is disrespectful to women, yet you interpret it as being okay by your definition...? Why the double standard?

"People with an open mind towards sex, don't chastise those who don't conform to their idea of sexual standards."

By replying to my original posting of this video, you did just that. Also, I can do this, too:

People with an open mind toward the safety of their gender don't chastise those who attempt to address the issue at large.

When you posted the sexual repression comment, the moot discussion regarding the interpretation and usage of the word, slut, was not brought up, yet. You were discussing maturity issues. Simply, you used it as a blatant taunt with no connection to anything you were actually discussing at the time. You think I generalized, I think you assumed and then stereotyped. Regardless, your statement--which you view as an argumentative point--holds no weight.

When I was done writing my last post, I was thinking introspectively on what I have said in past replies. While I do not expect the same in return, I attempt to break the surface tension by discussing more casual topics. Makes me look at you less of an enemy, and more of an opposing viewpoint to consider. While in past replies, I may have, but for my last I was not challenging your job prospects and integrity.

I, myself, am studying Journalism. Though not quite fluent, I have some knowledge of German, and am tediously learning Spanish on my own for now.

"Walks," when you've been around as long as I have, or studied the matter as intensively as I have, you will find that both sides are equally prone to such things, and to speak of it as characterizing only one side and not the other is disingenuous and deceitful if intentional, and ignorant beyond all measures if unintentional. Your attacks against liberals carry about as much resonance as al-Qaeda ranting about the evils of the West.

Take a look around.

Ron I've already bought the ticket an am on my way to Florida! woo! we gonna have ourselves a good time!
btw i have 2 holes!

do you feel better now that you wrote that?
PLEASE!
sorry for the assumption on your character

interesting that you would call this the face of modern feminism, I would call it the face of modern stupidity, male and female.

Whew, way to take on the howling dogs!

clearly, you shouldn't take on theoretical texts you are completely incapable of understanding.

I daresay you have touched upon that Puritanical American conviction that sexual pleasure must be associated with guilt.

Very,.... thorough. kudos.

Ok, in principle, I completely agree with your point of view. Men and women, both are responsible for their behavior and both should be held accountable. Yes, it seems ridiculously ignorant for these women to take the chances they are taking, and the behavior of the men in this video seems caustic and predatory. Applying the derogatory term 'slut' to the women is not going to change anything though, it says more about the person who chooses to use that term than it does about the person to whom it is being applied. I think there is dangerous behavior going on during spring break that involves both genders, and when you have a legal system that promises to hold a man accountable for rape, but does not hold a woman accountable for what may be termed lewd behavior, then you have a problem. I am not enthralled with the opposite terms of accountability either though, which is the Muslim tradition in many countries. These men and women are behaving irresponsibly, there is no doubt about that, but you cannot regulate everything in a person's life, or the choices they make. These are young people on the cusp of adulthood, they are no longer constrained by their parent's choices for them, and so parents have to hope that they did a good enough job as a parent that their children are not going to make the kind of foolish choices being made by the men and women in this video. If laws are violated, for whatever reason, then parents and their children will be forced to deal with the consequences. It sucks. Parents get overwrought just trying to make enough of a living to send their kids to college, and bringing home the bacon sometimes doesn't leave enough time for the kind of parenting that teaches your child to self-regulate their own behavior in situations like spring break. Colleges and universities can advocate all they want to, but the fact is, if your child doesn't already have the kind of moral barometer that keeps him or her from making decisions that put his/her well being at risk by the time they get to college, then there may be some hard lessons awaiting them, and I think that is what QuinlanT was suggesting by saying they had a lot of growing up to do.

We can mourn the passing of traditional notions of gender and gender-based expectations for behavior all day long, it isn't going to bring those traditions back, and it shouldn't. Few Westerners would choose to live under the kind of Islamic law that shrouds females in cumbersome garb to contain male desire and lust. The solution comes down to individual choice, and if we are not willing to dictate other people's choices, or have our own choices dictated to us, then we have to behave responsibly and teach our children to behave responsibly. There are no shortcuts.

nice namesake there ron...but I think the real ron jeremy would have never referred to a woman as a hole or a slut.

I was actually saying that women know that alcohol impairs their minds. Alcohol has a much larger effect on women than on men.One beer to a woman is NOT the same as 1 beer to a man. I hold men responsible for their actions just as I hold women. Getting shit faced around a bunch of random guys is not a good idea, because the alcohol works more effectively, and men are stronger. But women can help decrease the chances of rape happening if the choose who to party with and where, with their health in mind. I never advocated allowing men leniency with regards to rape. Perhaps you should read the entire conversation before making assumptions.

Firstly, if you don't like it, don't read it. Secondly, you have no backing for any of your arguments, which all depend on you using childish words. If you can't use your words like a big girl, go play somewhere else. Silly comments like this mean nothing to anyone, and only demean you.

I definitely agree with you on everything there. For me, I was just trying to get the point across that the girls were just as accountable for the consequences of their actions as the men were. I do not agree with the way they treat themselves, but ultimately it's their lives. I don't really do the spring break deal, so I have no complaints about that. It doesn't affect me, and I feel sympathy for those girls who were raped, but I hold them accountable. So yeah. I've always been the school driven girl, alcohol makes me feel sick, and I've never smoked anything. I wouldn't have even gotten involved, had the actual topic of the girls being the victim come up. Well, I see this conversation as having run its course. See ya.

haha. Just keep um comin. You're digging yourself into a bigger and bigger hole here. You proved everything Jake said, perfectly.

lmao. Very nice delivery. Couldn't have done it better myself. ;)

I about died laughing when I read this. Jeez, what a freakin comment. *still laughing*

"interesting that you would call this the face of modern feminism, I would call it the face of modern stupidity"

What's the difference?

well, let's start with the fact that this was men and women being stupid, not just women, which seems to be a point that continually needs to be made.

excuse me? what silly comments?

whoa girl! u got one hell of a chip on your shoulder!

Is this the best reply you can come up with? Again, calling people names doesn't make you win arguments.

I wouldnt have a dick even if you paid me, vagina's are soo much more fun

couldnt have put it better myself!

"Your deprecating regard for women who don't conform to, what you believe are, conventional standards of sexual behavior is juvenile. Sexual intercourse is not about love or procreation for every woman-- for some, it's simply about pleasure, however 'momentary' it may be. What the girls in the video do with their vaginas is their prerogative. Your feelings are irrelevant."

you just described her perfectly, baristaliz is an embarassment to women, even the "slutty" ones.

I just meant that in my writing i wasnt talking to you, did not care what you thought, yet you dedicated about 3 or 4 comments to me.
And where was the name calling? i said you have a chip on your shoulder, unless you interpreted "chip" to be name calling?

I think this goes into the 'ladette' culture, which if your british you will be familiar with, it's basically women who act like men, sleeping around and drinking until they pass out, ofcoure not all women are like this, and not all men, so in a way its unfair to say they act like men, where they (the women) are acting like total idiots, but thats the effects of alcohol regardless of what age or gender you are.
I dont blame media for these peoples actions, it's more a social consciousness of alcohol being so acceptable that it has deteriorated to the current binge drinking nations we have today.

trust me, im not ignorant!

"You don't need to respect the girls in the video; however, you don't need to degrade them either."
which is what everyone seems to be doing, which i think is a judgement on their character more so than the women in the video

one rule for men, another rule for women, the only sad thing is when a woman demeans other women the way a man would.

probably not. but if you're willing to switch teams, there are lots of gay guys on Current who probably do.

Bro, if you find the application, let me know... I'll sign up! I'm single! lol..

So you are saying gays are more concerned with the inner person than superficialities like youth and success?
Well, that kind of sounds like a compliment, and completely contrary to the typical way the right-wing stereotypes us.