Does this make you think she is a lady? Or a soft, gentle, loving mother?

. . . then why are you here?

this is what the "vote down" button is for to the side of the article. I use it a lot. Seems to do a surprisingly small amount of good, but maybe it's not a popularly used feature.

Get real.

Your post was a mean spirited and vicious attack on a woman you do not even know. There was nothing noble about your post, nothing about injustice.

The post was the work of a cowardly bully. All your posts are attacks on women. You claim to be a woman but this is highly doubtful. Everything you post is filled with disrespect and hatred for women.

"No one spoke up for the executed women in 17 century Salem MA who were believed to be witches. But today it is common knowledge it was a horrible injustice.

Now if you genuinely interested in understanding the horrible injustice facing many today then please read on otherwise join the ranks of those calling me names just as those in Salem calling for the execution of women who believed to be witches.

Regardless of the many names I am called I will stand up and call it as I see it.
I believe that hatred comes from fear and deep misunderstanding. I will try once more to explain my position."

Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick ! Could you be any more mellow dramatic? You aren't "fighting the good fight" with this article. All you are doing is mocking a woman you've never met before because she chooses to do something that isn't stereotypically "lady-like". This title has NOTHING to do with women surpassing the gender equality line.

Are you really willing to discredit the entire judicial system of Maine based on the fact that a woman got out of a fine for skinny dipping?

"it appears that equality and justice only applies to women in Maine"

Are you serious? All movements start on a local or state level to some degree. They protested the social stigma around being topless in MAINE because Farmington is in the middle of fucking nowhere (trust me, I go to school there) and no one from any other state could make it. It has nothing to do with whether or not Mainers value the rights of people in other states. Of course we do. Also, I really don't see how that is a corruption of the justice system because there was no legal action taken against the topless marchers. They were not showing their genitals, so it was not against the law. I may not have cared to partake, but I know the girl who orchestrated the protest very well. She looked carefully into Maine state law and complied with it. That is why she wasn't reprimanded, not because of some feminist judicial conspiracy.

I don't need to be taught the difference between gender and equity feminism. Your little "lesson" reeks of condescension.

Let me remind you, Uni, that you often push the envelope in your own advocacy.

And let me also quote Barry Goldwater who very sagely said: "Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

And I suspect that MotherForTruth is in the pursuit of justice.

MOM, if you're listening: "You Rock!"

You are a lost cause. Good bye.

Uni I was not talking to you! Every time I see that green face I feel sorry for those children you claim to be "treating". I have zero interest in conversing with you.

Unfortunately gender equality applies only to women and not to men.

"The problem is women long surpassed the gender equality line and now men need to stand up and fight for equality with women."

You do realize that is an opinion, don't you?

As for the Salem witch trials, there is some very interesting conjecture out there that those witch trials may very well have been the result of the consumption of moldy rye bread. The lower classes subsisted on brown, or rye bread, and a fungus with properties similar to LSD can be derived from moldy rye bread. The suggestion is that the girls who accused these women of bizarre behavior may have been tripping, as might the women they accused.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergotism

have to agree

your attempt to point out injustice based on gender pales in comparison to the story on current of the woman who got a life sentence for letting a 13-year-old touch her breast. A breast is not a genital, nor have breasts been sexualized everywhere else in the world.

Did you share some of the moldy rye bread with Uni and animalia? I see you three have a lot of resemblance in your foggy logic.

I LOVE my home state! :)

Feel free and drop me a line if you could ever look beyond "your greatest self" and self-centered "liberated woman" and actually respect or love someone other then yourself. Until then you are simply not worthy of my time.

Gee. I love it when you talk like that. Fascinating.

Maybe you should figure out who you are before you tell everyone else who you thing they are.

It appears that you some how feel the need to express yourself as a touchy-feely militant gueer, does that about sum it all up? . . and do you think that most here really give a flying f**k?

No, no, you're simplifying the problem. This is a sign of the horrible feminist conspiracy to rid the world of men. Men will become women and women the new men. Gone are the good old days when a woman's place was barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Now those awful harpies dare have their own careers, hobbies, and interests. It's making society fall apart don't you see? We're all doomed to a life of equality and freedom of expression even if you have two X chromosomes! And those poor men. Now that women can ride motorcycles and do other predetermined "manly" things, insecure stuck in the 50s men can longer have their sense of superiority. We're doomed I say. Doomed!

/sarcasm

Yeah I don't see the problem either. But it sure has MFT and WIS in a fit.

If you are sick you do not need to read the post.

yes, agree, I rushed in...but your comment apropos...laughing 'til I couldn't breathe in reference to "hog on a hog"...was cruel and uncalled for...

Interesting... No one found that a woman who pleaded guilty for drugging,raping and murdering a 15 year old boy and will spend less then 4 years in state prison to be offensive.
http://current.com/news/92406575_1-1-2-to-four-years-in-state-prison-for-a-woman...

Or stories of a men in a maximum security cell block for unpaid traffic tickets and non-payment of child support. Not offensive either?
http://current.com/news/92375400_held-in-a-maximum-security-cell-block-for-unpai...

But when someone wants to know what happened to females in this country is very offensive?

Incredible!

What is your issue with women?

I have no issues with women but I find myself embarrassed for being female when I see the way feminism turned women into political objects.

So the fact that some women have learned to drive motorcycles and enjoy it, and a motorcycle company has decided to cater to this demographic and create products based on consumer demand is a political ploy?

Do you ever read what you write?

Yes, I did.

I'm sorry I have been gone an have not taken a look at the new stories yet but i shall. I will even make a proper reply to them.

Actually, those other stories were far worse than offensive. They dripped with the signs of evil centered around a heinous personality. Who just happened to be a woman. Yes, and deviant women. They do exist and it's not pretty folks.

But to comment on them would be simply: "ditto" or something less intelligent. The urge for projectile vomiting is not very intelligent, and so, while these stories are "significant", they are just not comment worthy.

The times, yes, they are a'changing. So what. A woman who has let herself go, and doing it on a 'cycle, is not heinous, evil or offensive. I'll not do any projectile vomiting over this story, so I maybe, just maybe, I can come up with a response that isn't clogged with the venom of human contempt.

But, as they say on the internet, YMMV.

I'm JAH B InI, and I approve this message.

RIP Katanajon, J_Jammer

mash quoting Heinlein huh? Heinlein was so right wing he didn't even believe in democracy. The man was a monarchist.

the voices in your head do not count as data

LOL!

Uh - yes I find the drugging, raping, and murder of anyone messed up. Why do you think I don't find that disturbing? What have I ever said or stated that would lead you to believe that? People are extremely screwed up - yes. But I don't make sweeping generalizations and play connect the dots with men who are serial killers and rapists, or blew up the twin towers, or molest boys in the Catholic Church. Why? Because it's oversimplifying and generalizing a complex problem in society that reaches across both genders.

Now...back to this article (because this woman has nothing to do with those other men and women who were crazy).

What I found offensive about this was the expectation of gender roles implied in the title and the idea that because she may not be as "soft" and "gentle" as other women, this immediately places her in a situation of questioned identity.

I understand your point of view.

But it's what we all do every day, judge others by the appearance.
When a man is charged with a violent crime it is quickly perceived as "another violent criminal" and public is quick to conclude he is guilty. When a woman is charged with a violent crime it is all together another story. Media, public and the judicial system will search and almost always find "the reason" why a man in her life is the reason for her violence. There are countless stories of women who murder or attempt to murder their husband and there is always a story that he cheated on her, or he was abusive, or she had difficult childhood and was exposed to violence. Women even report false rape for many reasons, some are even to be accepted by her friends or as an excuse for missing a day from school, or for someone to feel sorry for her.(Before you comment on my statement, I do realize there are legitimate cases of violence and rape of women but this is not the focus at this moment).

Statistics show that women just as capable of violence yet are not perceived or held responsible for their crimes. In fact there is lack of media coverage of the truth.

So you find this post and the heading to be offensive generalization, and I find prosecution of innocent men and women offensive. I find judicial corruption that favors females also offensive. I find media misrepresentation of the truth offensive.

Someone must speak up.

Heinlein did not support monarchy, but rather advocated a cadre of patriot-zealots who put defense of country as a qualification for voting rights and participation in government. (Starship Troopers, for example, is the most complete development of this idea, but it shows up in some of his other stories)

The closest political philosophy seems to be fascism, not monarchy. I'm sure R.A.H. would have thought of it as a benevolent fascism, but there it is.

Starship troopers was a children's serialized story originally published in Boy's Life magazine done very early in his career.

I am referring to direct statements made about politics by the author.

If you want example in his novels read his adult stuff like time enough for love, number of the beast and such. Number of the beast in particular is unusually awful, but it does have a majority of his opinions.

This is what I get for quoting from memory instead of looking stuff up first.
Ah. yes, while it seems it was written for them it was the last of that group and actually Published elsewhere. My mistake. It is still arguably considered a scribners juvenile though, and as such the criticism while accurate is not germane to the point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinlein_juveniles Wikipedia gets everywhere it does.

As for career dates, the books I am referring to were written much later than the scribners juveniles. Friday, which I could include in this was written in 1982 for instance. Perhaps the addition of "relatively early" would be sufficient.

As for the anti-democratic specifics:
Of the stuff I remember off hand, most of them come as Lazerous Long pronouncement style quotes which has always seemed to me to be the most most Marty Stew of his characters. One rule of thumb I have found is the more poorly written one of his books is the more likely he is to let his freak flag fly politically and sexually.

One that comes to mind which i will probably also fractionally misquote as it is from memory is "the committee is the only known form of life with a hundred bellies and no brain" and then goes on in other clips to describe that a democracy is a committee. He also does a broad parody of parliamentary democracy in which he establishes one specifically to keep others from doing anything.

I also remember one where he talks about the only decent government being a well run dictatorship but that a well run dictatorship is "rarer than hens teeth"

There's a section in the back of time enough for love that is mostly disembodied quotes form the character where a lot of them reside.

Not all the advice is about ultra right wing ideology. "rub her feet" are words to live by for example.

As for what I've read of his:
Everything but "past though tomorrow", "revolt in 2100", & "the cat who walks though walls". Though I may be wrong about the last two, and all of his non fiction.

There are several books I started but never finished. I was unable to get through the last third of "number of the Beast" because it started to suck so hard i just couldn't deal with it any more. I also quit reading Job very near the end for similar reasons.

I bought Job hardcover and it was the last time I touched his work. This would mean I haven't looked at any of his stuff since at least the early 80's.

oops mispost

Yes, "rub her feet" Very good advice in all circumstances.

again, the voices in your head do not count as data

Is this the best you can come up with? How about some intelligent argument?

You first...

yes, well said. Obviously the poster is a sexist, misogynist, and frightened of strong women. His hatred of women is rather obvious if you check out his other posts.

The fact that you constantly need to brag about "all the women you loved" would lead one to believe you are a 70 year old virgin, desperately trying to compensate. A man who had actually been with many women would feel no need to brag.

Are you that obtuse that you are not aware that the man who likes to kiss and tell is often the man who is never kissed?

And if you have as many conquests as you claim, that only indicates a sad promiscuousness which is nothing if not an indication of dysfunction and pain.

Either way you lose little man, but thanks for playing, and better luck next time..

In the Head Injury dept. we call them 'High Risk' and they are usually repeat customers in the rehab/head injury dept. It also, seems to run in families. Hey, it feels good with out the leather but digging gravel and metal out of your flesh for months isn't nice. That is if you survive!

Ideleted due to a misunderstanding of what was meant by "chopper"

hahaha... You're cute.

Not in the same way as motherfortruth and walksinstorms are. They're cute like the dog that runs into the sliding glass door. You're a more generic (sorry) breed.

I'm 5'4" and weigh 155. I can almost pick up my 2006 Harley Sportster custom by myself.....so I try not to drop it. Motorcycling is an excellent way to see the road. I wear all the right gear (including helmet) and have ridden over 5 years with no mishaps. I highly recommend it, as long as new riders take the safety training offered by most states. You would look hot on a bike! But you already know I'm crazy about you, so forget that part.

....nooooooooooooo, pick me, pick me...lol...

:-( Nobody loves me today:-(

...just sent you a full monty on the butt post...

I love you, too, Eden.

I love you, bailey.

Umm Ok I love you to man

I get to be on the top of the love pile! DIBS!

Good night John Boy.

Good night, Ben.

AAh man why do you get to be on top? Next your going to want to be the one that follows eden up the latter to the tree house. Man I'm always on the short end of the deal.

...you just love those little fat, chubby cheeks, Pro...

...love you too, Pro, but we need more of your hot videos...

You guys sound like your have a much more fun conversation over here.

Just wondering (since you are the obvious authority on all things girly) am I soft, gentle, loving mother material? And if I'm not, why would you think I give a flying fuck?

So what is your question?

Hell no. That's just a girl on a bike. That's your issue? if she rides a bike she must be mannish? That's not too much steroids, that's too many spare ribs. That and she may have had a kid or three.

Oh, no... be careful "liberated women" do not like to be called "girls".

Oh wow... You missed it?

lmao. Ah, both of you are adorable!

You changed the name again? Not getting the reactions you wanted? Are you and walksinstorms the same person?

Have you considered the possibility that I may be so dedicated to my own opinions because I thought about them before I made up my mind?

Wrong again!