Obama Says that BP is Responsible and BP will Pay the Bill
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Gravity_Man
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Life can be difficult enough without oil spills. This isn't just a crime against the fish here. It's a crime against the human psyche The people living along the southern Gulf states should be compensated for psychological damages.
- 2 years ago
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Gravity_Man
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GoodGodGuy
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HEY you guys, you know what soaks up oil really really well? Penguins. Yes penguins don't you remember how much of the Valdez they soaked up? Well here's the plan. Go to Antarctica and catch all the penguins, then drop them out of planes on the oil slick. Slick Huh? Oh Oh and I hear geese and other creatures with fur and feathers are great sponges for oil.
- 2 years ago
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GoodGodGuy
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GoodGodGuy
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Interesting, and Exon still hasn't paid the full bill for the lawsuits. Oh well I guess that the judgment will be that they get to drill in the Arctic Ocean. OH BOY! That's swell.
- 2 years ago
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GoodGodGuy
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Gravity_Man
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GoodGodGuy:
Excellent comment sir! You have completely sized up the situation with the least number of required words, and you have also slam-pegged my intellect-O-meter all the way to the right and buried the needle. Be advised the idea has been tabled that the oil companies were invested heavily in Bernie Madoff Incorporated and may be as poor as we are.
Just a thought.
- 2 years ago
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Gravity_Man
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Gravity_Man
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I'm getting PTSD from all this garbage; oh, wait, I already have post traumatic stress disorder. Well, I seem to be entering a new higher level of stress disorder. But it seems nobody can tell because they all have it also.
Shoot, there goes my being special straight out the window. again.
- 2 years ago
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Gravity_Man
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JohnA
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And BP will get the money to pay the bill by raising the prices at the pump. So who is really going to pay? Us, the same people that pay for everything. Their profits will not suffer, they get theirs. We pay, as usual.
- 2 years ago
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JohnA
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Animal_Chin
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(Written with utter and complete sarcasm:) If only the people were paying a carbon-tax to the government! Then this would have never happened! Al Gore was right, if only we had been paying our carbon-taxes! Think of all the wild-life that will now perish because we were not paying more taxes!
- 2 years ago
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Animal_Chin
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Gravity_Man
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Animal_Chin:
But the wildlife they didn't pay no taxes.
- 2 years ago
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Gravity_Man
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Gravity_Man
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It really isn't much of a disaster. I've seen better in Made-for-TV movies. About a third of the oil spill is evaporated by the intense equatorial rays. So no matter how bad somebody says it is you need to automatically reduce their number by a 3rd, minimum. The same thing happened with the Exxon Valdez spill. It was about 15,000,000 gallons but only 11 million did a little damage. The other 4 & 5,000,000 gallons they said harmlessly evaporated into the air.
And if Obama tries to hit them with a civil suit they can counter sue for him not taking off that 1/3 lost out into the air; harmlessly.
- 2 years ago
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Gravity_Man
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ricaMX
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You know how it's played... I bet this "action-taking" disaster will be forgotten in a few months
- 2 years ago
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ricaMX
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treewolf39
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ricaMX:
Not if it hits the shore and ruins the commercial fishing.
- 2 years ago
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treewolf39
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Xenzaka
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Why not discuss who is responsible after the entire mess is cleaned up?
- 2 years ago
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Xenzaka
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treewolf39
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Xenzaka:
Someone has to pay for the people and equipment who are pulled away from other jobs. The States are all broke and people do not work for free.
- 2 years ago
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treewolf39
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Gravity_Man
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treewolf39:
Will people work for health care and the squares a day? It's time to pull out Plan R => Raid the Rescue Missions for Workers (part of Plan W).
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Gravity_Man
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treewolf39
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Gravity_Man:
I have worked with unmotivated workers before. NOTHING get accomplished.
- 2 years ago
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treewolf39
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Gravity_Man
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treewolf39:
Well, the trick to that is to pay some motivational speakers like uhm, Dick Cheney. You can also do what they do here in Virginia, take a football star and plug him into a vice president of something so he can stand on the hill and be an inspiration to the other lesser robots!
- 2 years ago
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Gravity_Man
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treewolf39
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Gravity_Man:
How about the Massey Mine Guy? He is one hell of a speaker. He will tell how oil spills help the environment.
- 2 years ago
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treewolf39
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Gravity_Man
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treewolf39:
I wouldn't mine hearing that myself!
- 2 years ago
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Gravity_Man
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richjm
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Amazing pics of the rig exploding and sinking.
http://www.americablog.com/2010/05/amazing-photos-oil-rig-exploding.html
- 2 years ago
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richjm
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Patrick_Merritt
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Why aren't there standby large vessels on the gulf coast, Atlantic coast, Pacific coast, and around Alaska that have pumps that can pump oil out of the ocean in case of a leak? Leaks happen. The leak is at the rig, oil doesn't mix with water. Stop it at its source before it spreads. The leaking rig leaks 5000 barrels a day? Apparently large oil tankers can hold 2 million barrels of oil. I don't know why they have to scramble and shit when there is a possibility this is going to happen. I don't know why there wasn't a series of ships on their way to the rig as soon as it caught on fire. If i were their competitor I'd be on my way. I'd have to process it on shore. However, I drink your milk shake!!!
- 2 years ago
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Patrick_Merritt
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FoosMaster
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No matter how much it costs the oil company, the ecosystem, and the American people for this mess the oil barons will just raise prices to pay for it and still make billions of dollars profit on this. Where is the justice for the American people and the environment?
Exxon's fine for Valdese was later REDUCED after complaining to politicians about the cost with I'm sure Huge bribes while they made Record Billions in profits during the Bush years. Yes, I know it was the court that decided to reduce the fine but it was the Bush administration that petitioned the court for the reduction. I'm sure that there was some kind of pressure put on the court to "obey" the administration.
It is the De-Regulation of the Oil industry and the Relaxing of environmental restrictions during the Bush/Cheney/Halliburton years that allowed this to happen in the first place.
I am just wondering how this will play out. I believe that Obama will do as he said and hold BP “Fully” responsible for this disaster and not let them off the hook as easily as Exxon was let off during the Bush years. I will give him a chance, but if he eases off on BP even a little I will be in the protest crowd. I refuse to criticize his actions on this Before this has a chance to play out though.
I hope Obama has learned his lesson about the dangers of ocean oil drilling from this fiasco and will put in tough regulations and environmental restrictions on this type of drilling in the near future, but the House and Senate have to give him something to sign first. Let’s see how many politicians on both sides of the isle will be bought off by the oil barons. Traditionally nearly All the Republicans and many of the Democrats have supported the Oil companies in the past. Let’s just see how many of them are willing to support the Oil Barons after this.
- 2 years ago
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FoosMaster
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artemis6
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They should pay . If it were you or me , we'd be SOL . They are too big to exist , beyond the law . Beyond Obama . He is not that powerful . Even the supreme court is with them and against US .
- 2 years ago
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artemis6
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GodsnLiberals
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obama IS NOT GOING TO DO SHIT...come on people stop fooling yourselves...
by know you know that mr. change is mr. pretty much the same..
did he or did he not approve more offshore drilling a few weeks ago........
they only way to stop this is to SLOWLY get our economy away from this dependency..anything else than that..you will cut the legs that holds our fat asses up
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GodsnLiberals
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crob80227
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GodsnLiberals:
Change can happen rapidly if we simply use market forces.
What if the government simply declared that they were going to change their entire fleet of cars to electric?
The issue is that companies are just standing around waiting for someone or something to happen. The electric "pumps" to support electric cars will not be built because there aren't enough electric cars to justify it....but no one is building electric cars because there are no "electric" pumps! It's a free market Catch 22.
So we have both sides of the equation just....waiting.
Which is precisely why the government needs to jump in and say, "Fine. We'll buy all the fucking electric cars. We'll be the first ones to put in a hugeorder to get this scale of economy ball rolling. We'll be the first customers and we'll give huge gov contracts to whoever wants to set up and build the damn pumps too."
Otherwise we're going to see 50 more years of companies standing around and waiting for something (cars or pumps) to get built FIRST and then they'll all jump on the band wagon.
Kind of like the touch screens for the iPod and motion controls for the Wii.
Notice how it didn't take a 50+ year roll out in order for touch screens to become popular and commonplace? The trick was that someone had to dive in and just do it. Apple did...and now everyone is making touch screens. Practically happened over night. Same with motion-controlled gaming. The Wii sold out and now everyone is racing to put their own motion-controlled games on the market. It doesn't take a 75+ year roll out. It just takes one company (or gov contract) to jump start the entire industry.
And then we can get off our dependence on oil.
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crob80227
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GoodGodGuy
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crob80227:
You do know that the clean technology has been available since the Nixon years. There were electric cars, Alcohol cars, All kinds of cars which were tabled by the money from big oil. I guess I am talking about the brush with the Bush and several, actually a lot of others.
Money can crush the life out of every thing on the earth. I wonder where Cheney's kids and grandkids will live once the earth is a mess. Don't they see that the future should not be for sale? - 2 years ago
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GoodGodGuy
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Gravity_Man
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GoodGodGuy:
They can live on the Moon, watch the Earth explode. Earth explodes, no more gravity locking the Moon, super powerful engines moves Moon to Mars orbit, where they terraform Mars, sowing seeds from the seed repository. That is, if the Earth explodes on its own. An idea has been tabled already to stop the Gulf oil leak with a small nuke sealant. That might do it, let the super cold ocean water into the earth's core & lava. They already built engines for pushing the Moon.
Nobody lives forever. You're only allotted so many questions per day here so make the next one harder pleez.
- 2 years ago
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Gravity_Man
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crob80227
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What? No jail time for the CEO's?
Sometimes the level of damage to the country races past a tipping point...and the CEO can no longer just shrug his shoulders and say, "Oops! My bad!"
No, you fucked this country so unbelievably hard that you must now go to jail.
He can continue to say "Oops!' in jail if he wants, I have no problem with that. But his saying "oops" and then going back to playing golf and fucking $10,000/hr escorts really doesn't seem like justice is being served.
When a driver accidentally kills a pedistrian, he can't just say "oops." He goes to jail in many cases. If a CEO "kills" an entire country's eco-system...even if it were unintentional...shouldn't he at the very least get 90 days in jail?
If your roommate spills bong water on the rug, yes, he can says, "Sorry bro! I'll pay for it!"
If your roommate accidentally sets your house on fire and that fire then starts a massive California wildfire that burns down 7,000 homes....there is no "oops."
BP is playing this off like they spilled bong water as opposed to starting a massive forest fire.
- 2 years ago
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crob80227
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EmperorThan
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While these morons stand around pointing fingers to who will pay for the spill is anyone going to start cleaning the god damn thing up?!?!!?
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EmperorThan
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treewolf39
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EmperorThan:
They are cleaning it up or trying to at least contain it. The problem is they can not close the hole and it is gushing about 5000 barrels a day into the water. It may take over two months to close the hole unless" someone" comes up with a stellar idea.
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treewolf39
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EmperorThan
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treewolf39:
It's their own dumb fucking fault for not having a Plan B. "If the seafloor closure device doesn't close automatically THEN WHAT THE FUCK DO WE DO?!?!?!" Should have been the first thing someone asked the day the first one was installed.
If I was the one building this shit I would have said "Okay, here's the scenario. We had five oil rigs all sinking to the bottom of the ocean. All five's automatic pumping closure plug things fail and can't be closed manually. What do we do?"
Yet APPARENTLY no one ever even asked what would happen if just ONE couldn't be closed automatically or manually.
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EmperorThan
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EmperorThan
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treewolf39:
Or scratch my last, Someone did ask. In fact more safety features are MANDATED in Europe on the same exact things. But oil lobbyists in OUR country voted it out of existence when those questions I said were asked.
And no one batted an eye....
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EmperorThan
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treewolf39
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EmperorThan:
It is time for the united states to wake up to energy conservation. We can change the way we live enough to protect the host.
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treewolf39
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masterzip
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I will expect, no matter what the amount of the bill is that Obama hands over to BP,...it will be challenged, it will go to court, it will take 20 years to go through court system, details will be forgotten, it will be lost by the gov-mint, and BP will get away scot free.
It is the american way - 2 years ago
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masterzip
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Saladin
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masterzip:
Sad but true. That's exactly what happened with Exxon-Valdez.
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Saladin
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Saladin:
so....after the exxon valdez incident..did you stop using oil????????????
kinda get why these people are getting away with it???
conserve..ride a bike..drive less...
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GodsnLiberals
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Gravity_Man
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masterzip:
Americans will be treated better than scroungy old Indians. But in case we aren't we need a Plan W, a series of protests where we all stand an Wave good-bye to the entire eastern seaboard, beaches and fishing industry. They're all going down now, all going down, did I type all going down? Soon as all the Cuba-based drillers have some of their pipe shafts sheared off by another Haiti quake yes yes yes I can see it now.
Plan W also includes Writing a hip new song and Writing a congressman who isn't in Big Oil's pocket. In the event of failure, Plan W finishes with Writhing in agony at a beach beside beached Whales and the occasional Walrus family. Maybe we can hire some real old people and Wipe oil sludge on their chests, arms & legs, and have them lay down beside the Walruses and Whales, good photo-ops can be priceless. //
I got it! Someone phone William Shatner. He's the right age and looks like a Walrus too! Yeah, get some Star Quality going here. Let's see, what did I leave out? YES! A close-up of Shatner's face and a tear rolling down his cheek. It worked real good for the old Indian chief dude, very effective.
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Gravity_Man
