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Right Wing Washington Times Compares the Word "Teabagger" to the N word!

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Did the Washington Times really just compare the word Teabagger to the N word? Yes, they did.

The term "tea-bagger" is like uttering the "n" word, some say. Though he aspires to promote civility, evidence has surfaced that President Obama has added "tea-bagger" to his public lexicon, though it's considered a cheap and tawdry insult by "tea party" activists. Watchdogs at Americans for Tax Reform (ATR) barked when they saw the proof, tucked in a sneak peak of Newsweek columnist Jonathan Alter's new book, "The Promise: President Obama, Year One," to be released May 18. Indeed, it appears the president joined certain partisan critics and the liberal media, and took the tea-bag plunge.

"This remark is the equivalent of using the 'n' word. It shows contempt for middle America, expressed knowingly, contemptuously, on purpose, and with a smirk. It is indefensible to use this word. The president knows what it means, and his people know what it means. The public thought we reached a new low of incivility during the Clinton administration. Well, the Obama administration has just outdone them," ATR president Grover Norquist tells Inside the Beltway.



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  • crystalman
  • Progresshiv
    • +1
      Progresshiv  
    • I am perfectly happy to not use the word "teabagger" as long as I can continue to express my contempt for middle American morons in alternative ways. How about "willfully ignorant cracker factories?"

    • 2 years ago
  • Sapience
  • Progresshiv
    • +1
      Progresshiv  
    • Sapience:

      Contempt: open disrespect for a person or thing
      Hate: a feeling of dislike so strong that it demands action
      I have contempt for "Middle Americans" but I don't plan to take any action. Thanks for asking, though; that was a loving gesture on your part.

    • 2 years ago
  • Sapience
  • bombastinator
  • Sapience
  • bombastinator
    • 0
      bombastinator  
    • Sapience:

      Nope. You want an example? You can hate black widows, but have respect for their bite. You can hate bus station bathrooms, but respect the fact that they are necessary. You can Hate Glen Beck, but respect his ability as a performer.

      I suspect the problem here is that disrespect is not actually a verb. You can "show disrespect", you can not respect, but disrespect is not something that necessarily affects the whole being.

    • 2 years ago
  • Sapience
  • bombastinator
  • Sapience
  • bombastinator
  • Sapience
  • common_sense_please
    • +1
      common_sense_please  
    • Sapience:

      so just out of curiosity--how do you think the Tea Party is using the term "to teabag"? What do you think it means when they use the term? Because I can guarantee you some of the more fringe members of the Tea Party are not using the term to say let's all be respectful and request a nice easy going non-threatening meeting with our congressional representative to calmly and rationally ask them how we can work together to solve some of the major economic and social issues going on in our country right now.

      So by your logic--Glenn Beck needs to stop calling using the terms progressive and liberal and Nazi and socialist to describe people who don't identify as Republicans or members of the Tea Party.

      Also, again using your logic, President Obama deserves an apology from the Tea Party because they constantly reference him as being like Hitler or trying to re-create the Holocaust.

      Also Anderson Cooper deserves a personal apology from you because unless you know him personally and are intimately aware of his sex life and sex practices than you have no right to say he practiced "teabagging" in the sexual sense of the word or to call him a closeted homosexual. And Rachel Maddow is a lesbian-yes--but the way in which you attributed the label to her seemed to reflect much more of your contempt for her rather than just your stating a fact about her.

      Finally you you are the one who seems be overly obsessed with what terms mean and seem to think everybody is being hateful toward you or toward those members of the Tea Party who actually have a point and who are peaceful political protesters. Because the reality is most people here and outside of Fox news are just trying to explain to you the concepts of sarcasm and humor and how its possible to use the term "teabagger" in a sarcastic way that is not meant to harm or show hate--as much as it is designed to reflect back to some fringe members of the Tea Party that they take themselves way too seriously.

    • 2 years ago
  • Sapience
  • common_sense_please
    • 0
      common_sense_please  
    • Sapience:

      But that's the whole point--I didn't use the term "teabagger" in reference to you or to any member of the Tea Party--I simply commented on a posting about the word.

      Also again--you seem to be the only one who is exhibiting hateful behavior and being deliberately obtuse in your understanding of what other people are saying to you.

      So--how's this--please quit attacking people and attaching the word hate to everything they say if its not in lock step agreement with your personal ideology.

    • 2 years ago
  • StarsNStripes
    • 0
      StarsNStripes  
    • common_sense_please:

      When the Tea Party says to "tea bag" a member of Congress they are referring to sending that Congressman an actual tea bag in the mail. That's how this whole movement got started.

      Who is accusing Obama of trying to recreate the holocaust? I've never heard that anywhere. I can see how people could compare him to Hitler but not in any of the ways you're implying. Obviously Obama isn't opening up concentration camps or anything, but there are other similarities.

      Both promoted class warfare and claimed to champion the everyday worker who was being exploited by big business and industry. The rhetoric is strikingly similar between the two.

    • 2 years ago
  • mjsmith11
    • 0
      mjsmith11  
    • The Washington Times is absolutely correct in the comparison. Both words are vulgar, profane, insulting, unacceptable, immature, inappropriate, and have no place whatsoever in polite conservation. If you look at the people in the public media that use such language, you will not find one single respectable person using it. I would never use such abhorrent language and I would never let my children speak that way. If any person called me either of those heinous insults towards me, I would take great offense to it.

    • 2 years ago
  • calm_incense
  • chinese_democracy
  • cclark_productions
  • bombastinator
  • emmaclaire
  • bking74
    • +1
      bking74  
    • Once again I find myself politically "homeless", what party represents career Military, Irish Catholic white man from a blue collar background. Who believes in strict crime law, a strong national security, equal rights and education for everything (including universal health care.) A country where we all strive to improve our fellow American's.

    • 2 years ago
  • freecrack
    • 0
      freecrack  
    • bking74:

      we are all in the same boat. its like the people who call into radio shows, its not that the shows listeners are all crazy just only the crazy bother to call.
      we all generally feel the same but its the nuts who make it seem like one party is perfect and the other rediculous

    • 2 years ago
  • treewolf39
    • 0
      treewolf39  
    • bking74:

      There isn't one. Let me know if a party with the values you stated starts. I find it amazing when senators switch parties. Truly goes to show they only have their interests at heart.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
    • +1
      jubal  
    • bking74:

      I have been asking a very similar question. Neither parties of the COIN have our backs. Both have their agendas that serve their major donors.

      We need a candidate who is Fiscal Conservative while being a Social Liberal. That combination would get my vote.

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
  • jubal
  • bombastinator
  • calm_incense
    • 0
      calm_incense  
    • jubal:

      "I would vote for anyone who is not part of the established status quo; politics as usual crowd."

      Our entire political system is devised such that only *exactly* that type of person could ever become a viable political candidate in the first place.

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
  • GodsnLiberals
  • freecrack
  • jubal
  • bombastinator
  • Kaelos
    • 0
      Kaelos  
    • I'm actually drinking green tea right now, where I actually dunked a tea bag in water. Does that make me a teabagger?

    • 2 years ago
  • Sapience
  • Budoshi
  • freecrack
    • 0
      freecrack  
    • Kaelos:

      not unless you were taxed on it without being represented or you also put your scrotum in it.
      or demonized the president while advocating for violent revolution

    • 2 years ago
  • jubal
  • Sapience
  • jubal
    • 0
      jubal  
    • Sapience:

      Don't knock it till you tried it. Sucking on a nut sack can be very pleasurable for both the giver and the receiver. What is offensive is having someone's nut sack shoved in your face against your will, which is what the Tea People are doing practically every time they have a rally, shoving their hatred (nutsack) in everyone's faces that pass by and read their hate filled messages on their signs.

      I don't have a problem with someone calling me names, sticks and stones you know.

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
  • randallr01
  • lifestudentno83
    • +5
      lifestudentno83  
    • It is apparent that Teabagger is worse than the N word because it offend middle-to-lower class white republicans, which is worse than a word used to refer to subjugated African American slaves that were beaten, tortured, and worked until death back in the 19th century.

      According to Fox News.

    • 2 years ago
  • Sapience
  • GodsnLiberals
  • lifestudentno83
    • +4
      lifestudentno83  
    • Sapience:

      Really? Black people call themselves that, so it's okay for everyone to call them that?
      If it's okay, why don't you call me one right now?

      Why? Because it's not. Stop generalizing people based off rap videos/mainstream pop culture.

      Next, you'll be telling me I should get over slavery because I read a history book about it and know that it happened, and where the N word actually came from.

      It would be so much easier if black people just forgot all the wrongs American society has committed against them since bringing them over here. Because if they didn't get sold here by other Africans under false pretenses then we would have stayed in Africa where we would have "had it worse" than 400 years of getting beaten and working for free everyday.

      We wouldn't of had to experience some of the most heinous racial crimes seen across the world, we would not have had to struggle everyday against stereotypes that label us as ignorant, trivial, and frivolous people who are to be ridiculed and feared rather than respected or accepted. We wouldn't have to hear the same lame lines about "playing victim" because we studied the dirty business of American History and have some semblance of identity.

      I'm a victim because I'm black. I'm also an ignorant, self-centered, bigot who thinks the whole of white America owes me something because I can put two sentences together about sociopolitical viewpoints and racial tensions in America going ignored. I also contradict the whole of White America because I say the one word openly in public every chance I get that he cannot say... and it tears him up inside. Even if I do not specifically mention the whole of White America, I have commited the grave offense of mentioning it about some of them and since this is all I am, others can minimize the argument that something is wrong with how our nation views race.

      But don't call a Teabagger a Teabagger; or I suppose I should say the "T" word since it has centuries of racial connotations to it that stem back into when liberals enslaved the conservative class after taking them from their homeland, putting them in chains, then forcing them to do manual labor while viewing them as less than a person.

      Why do I even bother to fight stereotypical views if I am doomed to live within them? I should just drop out of school, sell drugs, get a rap career and get arrested trying to shoot someone to "up my street cred" so the white people don't start to believe I am actually what's normal for young African-Americans, and that all the negative depictions in the media that never lies to them is right.

    • 2 years ago
  • lifestudentno83
    • +2
      lifestudentno83  
    • GodsnLiberals:

      I'm barely even validating that line of questioning with this response.
      What does that have to do with anything here?

      You have the nerve to call someone else racist in another thread, then come into this one and ask that question, in that context and in that language.

      No one else said that word. Only you.

      I thought current was a place that I could get AWAY from the horrors of internet trolls, but it appears no place is safe from racists on the internet.

      I reported you, BTW. I sincerely hope that you get banned. I don't come in here and use stereotypical assumptions with derogatory and offensively racist language to prove a point against you, and if you can't at least afford me the respect to not do the same then you really don't deserve to be here.

    • 2 years ago
  • freecrack
  • calm_incense
  • Sapience
  • calm_incense
  • Sapience
  • calm_incense
  • Sapience
  • calm_incense
    • 0
      calm_incense  
    • Sapience:

      Sapience:

      Jesus fucking Christ.

      If you really think I would deny that certain black people call each other "niggers" then I have truly been wasting my time communicating with you in the first place.

      I think you're awfully dense, but I don't think you're SO dense as to actually deny that SOME white people oppose Obama due to his race alone (and if, heaven forbid, you DID, just take a look here: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/)

      Likewise, you may think I'm a liberal ostrich with its head in the sand (I'm not a liberal, but I digress), but not even the most liberal of liberals would deny the universally acknowledged fact that SOME black people DO call each other nigger (or "nigga", which is just a softened incarnation of the word).

      Asking me whether or not I think black people have called each other "niggers" is like me asking you whether or not any white people have ever spoken with a Southern accent.

      Seriously, stop this bullshit. You may hate me, but you should at least be able to acknowledge that I have, in fact, heard rap music before. -_-

    • 2 years ago
  • Sapience
  • calm_incense
    • +1
      calm_incense  
    • Sapience:

      "And you'd be an idiot to deny that people voted for him because he is half black."

      Well that's good, because I never said that.

      "The problem is you can't admit that those that voted did the same thing...."

      There are idiots out there who voted for Obama because he's black.

      Sorry, did I just blow your mind?

      My bad—you want help cleaning your exploded brain matter from the floor?

      "they voted because he was black not because they listened to what he had to say and agreed....they saw skin color and said YES finally I'll be alive when the first black president is here...gotta get him in."

      We have a real Einstein on our hands, folks! This brilliant social analyst has discovered that black people CAN, in fact, be racist! OMG SOMEBODY ALERT THE PRESS!

    • 2 years ago
  • Sapience
  • calm_incense
    • 0
      calm_incense  
    • Sapience:

      "Neither did I state that there are some people (not just white) who didn't vote for him because he was black."

      Never said you did. Then again, I'm clearly a liar, so if you can find where I said that, I'll gladly send you $20 through PayPal out of appreciation.

    • 2 years ago
  • spanishinquistion
  • Sapience
  • lifestudentno83
  • freecrack
  • GodsnLiberals
  • freecrack
  • fun_size
    • +1
      fun_size  
    • Yes because the middle class, straight, southern men and women who make up the vast majority of teabaggers must feel sooo discriminated against. I mean everyday they have to live with being called names and face prejudice at work and in social institutions... oh wait no they dont.

    • 2 years ago
  • serenden68
    • +2
      serenden68  
    • my question is how in the fucking world could you compare the two names....

      ugh i dont even know where to begin on that comparison.

      i mean shit, how? what in the world brought you to the idea that the two were even close to being the same?

      if you knew the history of the word then you wouldn't even begin to compare the two.. ..

      this is one of the dumbest things i have ever had the displeasure of reading.

    • 2 years ago
  • Sapience
  • saintphreddscrib
    • +7
      saintphreddscrib  
    • Sapience:

      Teabaggers call Obama a socialist, a fascist and a communist. Those words are used to elicit emotions from people: anger from people who support Obama, and fear from people who don't. So, when I use the term Teabagger, I use it to piss people like you off, and make people like me laugh. And it's obviously pissing you off or you wouldn't be defending it so persistently.

      In conclusion, Teabagger is a hilarious name for a group of ill-informed, ignorant and overwhelmingly racist Americans who are the exact opposite of "sapient".

    • 2 years ago
  • Sapience
  • calm_incense
  • jubal
  • jubal
  • freecrack
    • 0
      freecrack  
    • saintphreddscrib:

      ok we got them to stop calling us that stupid name we dubbed oureslves showing how out of touch with the culture we really are.
      now lets get back to associating hitler and nazism with everyone we dont like

    • 2 years ago
  • saintphreddscrib
  • Sapience
  • saintphreddscrib
  • CalgarC
  • bombastinator
  • Sapience
  • bombastinator
  • Sapience
  • bombastinator
    • 0
      bombastinator  
    • Sapience:

      what was that other word "primarily"? Like mostly? As in "not all the time"? Everyone agrees that teabaggers don't call themselves that. There is photograpic evidence that they used the term though.

    • 2 years ago
  • Sapience
  • bombastinator
    • 0
      bombastinator  
    • Sapience:

      "who's being rude here?"
      .. Oh me. I never pretended not to be rude. I like rude. I'm no more rude than you I think. Don't let that stop you though. Rude doesn't phase me. I can be rude right back. No problem.

      "you are lying to use a word you know is wrong"
      I still contend the word is not "wrong". It's just not one they like or deliberately picked, anymore that the two partes deliberately picked donkeys and elephants as their mascots. (they were picked as insulting parodies by a famous 19th century cartoonist) How do you even get lying out of that anyway? Tortured phrasing does not an argument make.

      Why do I use a term that the group in question prefers not to be used? I've got a good reason for that one.

      The problem is the right wing has a long history of abandoning their words as the reality of their groups catch up with them. There was the moral majority, who went through several name changes to avoid people getting a handle on who exqctly they were. IIRC the american Nazi party changed it's name at least twice.

      Me I'm tired of it. You get what you get and you live with your actions.

      IMHO all this squatting and pewling the teabaggers are dong is to thier detriment anyway. This is how the whole thing has worked for hundereds of years. Heck the term "whig" was originally an insult. Just own it. Say "yeah, we're teabaggers and this is what hat means" print up your letterhead with a tea bag logo and own it. If your platform is so weak it can't even handle a single penis joke why are you even out there?

    • 2 years ago
  • Sapience
  • bombastinator
    • 0
      bombastinator  
    • Image
    • Sapience:

      "They did pick those animals. Lame. "
      Wanna make me hunt up the name huh? That piece of data is a memory from a history of illustration class I took in the late 80's. I couldn;t remember the guy's name, but I'm willing to bet I'm right without bothering to google it. i'll do the 3 seconds of googling it will take, but let's make it interesting.. What you want to bet I'm wrong?

      Bah, the suspense is killing me:
      google results for "elephant donkey history" are here.
      http://www.google.com/search?q=elephant+donkey+history&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8...:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

      The cartoonist's name was Nast.

      "Yes, and you live with how you treat people like you said is wrong to be treated. Justify it all you want you're no better and never will be if you continue."
      I live?! Wow, you seem to know a lot about me. Tell me, How do i live? I've heard of putting words in someones mouth but a whole life?! Sure your imagination isn;t running away with you here? That's possibly the oddest accusation I've ever fielded. I'm still not sure what exactly you even mean.

      "But you don't care to be like you preach against. Like seeing liberals flop around in their disgusting hypocrisy."
      OOOHHhhh.. you're calling me a hypocrite. That took a whole lot of mangled confusing language to get to. Please expose this alleged hypocrisy. State your example.

    • 2 years ago
  • CalgarC
  • Sapience
  • lifestudentno83
  • freecrack
  • StarsNStripes
    • -1
      StarsNStripes  
    • The President, and the rest of you that keep using the term "teabagger", are just trying to create a snowstorm that masks the real message of the Tea Party movement. You Snowblowers, as I'm going to start calling you, are just scared because you're afraid your elitist leaders are going to start losing elections, giving the common man back their money, power and chance at the American dream. Don't worry, it will all be okay...

    • 2 years ago
  • saintphreddscrib
  • Sapience
  • UtopianSky
    • +7
      UtopianSky  
    • StarsNStripes:

      Well, that comment was just like a teabagger.

      You claim that we are "masking the real message of the Tea Party movement" when no two teabaggers can agree on a message beyond a bunch of vague hyperbole like "small government" and "less taxes".

      You claim the Left has "elitist leaders" when the Republicans are a bunch of multi-millionaires in bed with huge corporations.

      I found it so funny when durring the election the right wing called Obama, a half-black man raised by a single mother, and had to get a scholarship to be able to attend college an "elitist", while McCain, a multi-millionaire who does not even know how many houses he owns, and wears $500 shoes is NOT an "elitist".

      It shows that teabaggers are just parrots- you have no idea what you are saying at all. You repeat words verbatim from the pundits who tell you what to say, even when you don't know what those words mean.

      You were fed a bunch of lies about democrats stealing "the American dream" from "the common man", and the ones lying to you are the ones who actually ARE stealing your dreams.

      They lie to you about health care "death panels" because they don't want the government to stop the "death panels" that exist NOW in Insurance companies.

      They lie to you about "tax and spend" democrats, when the Democrats LOWER the taxes on the middle classes, and RAISE taxes on the wealthy and corporations, who don't even pay any taxes anyway.

      Republicans lower taxes on the wealthy and corporations- who, again, don't pay any taxes anyway- and tell YOU that somehow YOU benefit.

      Obama did not make "teabagger" a dirty word.
      Teabaggers did.

    • 2 years ago
  • freecrack
  • StarsNStripes
    • -1
      StarsNStripes  
    • UtopianSky:

      Huh?

      First, elitist does not mean you're rich. Elitist means you feel you are better qualified to determine what's right for somebody than they are ... because you're naturally superior.

      Second, Democrats raise taxes. Your class warfare games (pitting poor against middle class against rich) are a snowblower's tactic to hide how the world works. Democrats cost people money. They raise taxes and that pulls money from the economy, hurting everybody. Republicans are bad about it too, just not AS bad as the Progressive Marxists that are currently in charge.

      Third, the top 25% of wage earners pay 85% of the taxes the federal government collects. Why do you regurgitate the snowblower's line that corporations and wealthy don't pay taxes? You must know that's not really true.

      I manage a small business. I make money when other companies spend money. Then I feed my family with that money, buy them clothes, etc. It's hard for companies to spend money when the government takes their money. See how this works? That's economics.

    • 2 years ago
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