Mohammed cartoonist attacked by Muslims shouting 'allah hu akbar' during his lecture on free speech
source: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/this-is-sweden-muslims-shout-allahu-akbar-as-lars-vilks-at...
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Lars Vilks told The Associated Press a man leaped from the front row and head-butted him as he was delivering his lecture at Uppsala University, breaking Vilks' glasses but leaving him uninjured.
Police later said the attacker was stopped before he could reach Vilks and that the artist may have bumped into plain-clothes officers who briskly evacuated him from the room. Three people were detained, but it wasn't immediately clear whether the attacker was among them.
A video clip of the incident by a Swedish newspaper showed police using pepper spray and batons to hold off an angry crowd shouting "God is great" in Arabic after Vilks was escorted out of the lecture hall.
Vilks has faced numerous threats over his controversial drawing of Muhammad with a dog's body, but Tuesday's incident was the first physical assault directed against him.
Earlier this year U.S. investigators said Vilks was the target of an alleged murder plot involving Colleen LaRose, an American woman who dubbed herself "Jihad Jane," and who now faces life in prison. She has pleaded not guilty.
Vilks said a group of about 15 people had been shouting and trying to interrupt the lecture before the incident at the university in Uppsala, about 40 miles (70 kilometers) north of Stockholm.
Some of them stormed toward the front of the room after the attack and clashed with security guards as Vilks was pulled away into a separate room, he said, describing the scene as "complete chaos."
"A man ran up and threw himself over me. I was head-butted and my glasses were broken," Vilks said before hanging up for questioning by police.
Uppsala police spokesman Jonas Eronen later said that the attacker was stopped by officers before he could get to Vilks. The physical contact Vilks described probably happened when police in civilian clothes evacuated the artist "in a brusque manner," Eronen said.
A man and a woman were detained on suspicion of violence against police while another man was held for disturbing public order, he said. All were just under 20 years old.
Uppsala University spokeswoman Pernilla Bjork said Vilks was showing an excerpt from a film by an Iranian artist about Islam and homosexuality that had been banned from YouTube when the commotion started.
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ginjuice
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a group of people you don't wanna piss off!
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ginjuice
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dariusvons
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to muslims
your beliefs are anti-factual fantasies, and you're obviously too ignorant to recognize this... so I laugh at you.
shut up and go back to making rugs and sweeping your dirt floors.
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dariusvons
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freecrack
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in all fairness they were living similarly as societies lived two thousand yrs ago when capitalism dropped the industrial revolution on thier heads. they went from trying to sword fighting to trying to stop israel with cannons in 48 (not metephoricaly actual cannons with fuses and everything) to having access to all industrialization has to offer.
can it reasonably be expected you give them aks before they live through decades of 6 shooters to fully understand all the negative implications.
- 2 years ago
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freecrack
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Dejan_Croatia
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fuck religion, the craziest are fucken muslims. those motherfuckers are stuck in a time age that has no relativity with today. fucken retards fuck religion especially islam
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Dejan_Croatia
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corndog67
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It's OK, the whole world is rolling over for the fucking Muslims. Fuck the Muslims. Treat them as they would treat the non Muslim world. Either convert, or die.
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corndog67
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ginjuice
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corndog67:
if a muslim extremist sees this comment, what can he do?
- 1 year ago
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ginjuice
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jubal
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Good thing that they are going to let people pack heat in Universities and Colleges, if some lunatic Muslim extremists were going to attack me for free speech they would get a bullet from me.
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jubal
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freecrack
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jubal:
i never thought id see the day
- 2 years ago
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freecrack
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Maeveeo
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So this is how you act when you stand up for something you worship ? do you think he would say to his follwers let them say whatever they want but do harm to them ? Is this what Muslims are really about ? Just because we don't see eye to eye on somethings ? Or make ah joke , we get ATTACKED is this the way to solve anything ? Whatever happen to STICKS & STONES MAY BREAK MY BONES BUT SAYING THINGS WILL NEVER HARM ME ? NOW IT IS STICKS & STONES WILL BREAK MY BONES BUT SAYING STUFF WILL GET YOU KILLED ? Is this what it has come down too ?
- 2 years ago
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Maeveeo
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chasingame
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It's all a big joke anyways. Christians get all huffy when you rip on JC. Muslims get all huffy when you rip on Muhammad. So what's new? Now we are going to argue some more and kill a few million more people in the process to figure out whose false idol is better? Same old story. As far as I am concerned all religions can go to hell! (and yes... I do realize that my last statement is kind of contradictory to the rest of my rant... deal with it.)
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chasingame
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freecrack
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chasingame:
but the christian manifistation of dissaproval is on mass far less aggressive.
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freecrack
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Naumadd
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freecrack:
I disagree. Putting the name of your deity on all U.S. money in direct violation of the first amendment seems pretty aggressive to me. The U.S. Constitution is the highest law in the land of they've managed to subvert that one for quite a while.
U.S. monies ARE created, managed and controlled by the U.S. government. Because not all religions and certainly not the not non-theists follow the monotheist "god", "In God We Trust", apart from being inaccurate, is a clear government establishment of a specific sort of religious view - monotheism. Because there are religions that have more than one deity or have no deity at all, the emphasis on monotheism is a default on the government's responsibility to keep itself neutral on the subject of religion.
Unless I use credit or debit cards, I am forced to use currency which expresses views not my own and, as it happens, is representative of a religion that is clearly and consistently hostile to me, a so-called "atheist", is hostile to Buddhism which I highly respect, and is currently and historically hostile to the beliefs of my wife and her friends who are neo-pagans.
Christianity less aggressive? Maybe you've not really be paying attention. People like me, my wife and our friends have to actively live and associate with one another day to day with one eye to every stranger who comes along with the possibility they are a Christian fanatic looking to do us harm. Just this evening, in fact, a member of our group expressed her discomfort with the fact her daughter accidentally "outed" her to people who are unfriendly and likely hostile to her chosen beliefs. These were not Muslims but American Christians. Why should any American have to live in fear of other Americans in such a manner?
Yes, I've been physically assaulted several times for being an "atheist" or at least for being a "non-Christian" - each time by so-called "good Christians". Yes, I, an American atheist with freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association, have to be cautious to whom I speak openly about my own beliefs and the people with which I associate. It is American Christians who make that caution necessary. Come to think of it, no Muslim I've ever met and interacted with - American or otherwise - has threatened to commit harm to me, let alone actually committed such an act. No, that's not saying some Muslims wouldn't or don't want to harm us. I'm simply saying it isn't Muslims I watch for on American streets.
Self-righteous Americans are concern enough.
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Naumadd
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crystalman
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chasingame:
This moral equivalence crap is getting soooo booooring!!!
- 2 years ago
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crystalman
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BCDel89
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a muslim man called the police to report the car bomb at times square, thats pretty respectful... i think it would be smarter to say please stop giving people reasons to not respect you...
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BCDel89
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jeffissleeping
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terrible irony...and kind of scary...
unfortunately another example of the corrupting and brain-tempering qualities of religions themselves...
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jeffissleeping
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freecrack
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respect is earned
give us something to respect islam - 2 years ago
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freecrack
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Incredulous
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I'm sorry, but I hold Uppsala University accountable as well. This type of behavior should not be tolerated on any campus, and the students who participated should be reprimanded as well.
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Incredulous
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Confucius
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am i the only one who thought this was hilarious?
- 2 years ago
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Confucius
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MizPiz
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Confucius:
Of course not.
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MizPiz
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Naumadd
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Confucius:
Probably not but, why would you find the physical assault of a human being funny? That isn't something to be admired or promoted in any culture claiming to value individual sovereignty.
Of course, I know exactly why you would find physical harm to another human being humorous.
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Naumadd
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crystalman
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Well, well, well. Even the Huffinton Post is carrying this story, complete with video. This is good. The usual PCMC apologists are relatively absent from the comment stream, probably rendered temporarily mute by cognitive dissonance induced by a story that is so at variance with their world view.
Everytime you see 7th century Islamic behavior of intimidation, shoutdowns, threats, insults and violence in the west, please thank your liberal democrats and others who made it possible for these vermin to immigrate and benefit handsomely from a free society built up brick by brick by your forefathers that they would so love to destroy because it somehow is not what their prophet really had in mind.
Please don't forget to thank those who are responsible for creating this mess by ruining your country and your children's future.
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crystalman
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freecrack
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crystalman:
bush for antagonizing them in true crusader fashion?
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freecrack
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MizPiz
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crystalman:
Personally, I'd rather have the Middle East be like they where around the 7th century. About that time, the people living their where at least trying to keep alive what the Greeks started and the Romans tried to continue. Shit was cool, but then the Crusades and Mongols happened, turned the Middle East into what it is today (for the most part). Now look at the three; there's civil unrest in Greece; Italy is at the mercy of a horribly corrupt business and has a pretty lacking government; and... you know the rest.
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MizPiz
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Naumadd
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crystalman:
Did you somehow miss the fact this occurred in Sweden - not the United States? Also, it's a mistake to equate American liberals with liberals in other parts of the world. Today's American liberalism is a very different kind of liberalism from that of Europe.
American liberals are as hostile to individual liberties as are American conservatives. Their hostility is simply aimed at different issues.
As for welcoming diversity of religion with open arms, you can put that squarely - and thankfully - on the shoulders of those who founded the United States - not today's liberals. It was pre-revolution Calvinists - and today's conservatives - who wanted an American Christian theocracy - NOT those who actually created our laws and government.
You can thank the actual founders for your freedom of religion. If the Calvinists had had their way, you would have none save one - Christianity - which, as many would tell you, is no choice at all.
Going by your expressed views, you have more in common with radical Muslims than you care to admit. You don't seem to want religious diversity or religious liberty in the United States, you want a culture dominated by christian doctrine, no?
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Naumadd
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crystalman
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Highlights:
Jihadi maced in the face at :15...nice...
Jihadi bodychecked at :45...swe-e-e-et.....
Sadly noone stuffed a sock in the mouth of that crow in the back...
Oh well, better luck next time team!
muslims just can't handle the truth About Muhammad ...
They cannot handle the truth about how he lived, nor can they handle the truth about where he is right now: in HELL.
As for Swedes, how does it feel to begin to understand you foolishly allowed the beast into your country out of false compassion and because you set up a social entitlement system which can't pay for itself long term unless you bring in immigrants to do the dirty work for too many people sitting on their asses? And you brought in Muslims for this, the worst of all immigrants? Are you nuts as well as economically ignorant? Seems so. Hey, what's happened to your wagging your finger at America for all its problems. How does it feel?
Where have all the Vikings gone,
Longtime passing?
When will they ever learn.... - 2 years ago
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crystalman
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freecrack
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crystalman:
you do know what you are sating is of the same clothe as them.
good luck with it your gunna end up like jj - 2 years ago
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freecrack
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crystalman
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8nVjACkCA0
In hour after the lecture's announced time, it started off with a packed hall of 260 people. Police and security guards posted around the hall. Vilks' initial examination of how Christian symbols and figures are used in art caused no protest from the audience, but comments were heard when he showed a picture by photographer Andres Serranos "Piss Christ", a crucifix submerged in urine.
But when he made no exception for Islam, but after a short presentation started showing the film Allah ho Gaybar by a Dutch art student of Iranian origin, cries were heard from teh audience, and a demand that the movie be stopped.
One man pushed his way behind the podium and attacked Lars Vilks, a police office broke the attack, others were barred from Vilks, but the row in the lecture hall only increased and more and more people pressed forward towards the podium. There were stopped by the police who formed a wall with drawn batons and also made use of pepper spray.
Meanwhile, women and men were screaming even louder, demanding that the film be stopped and demanding respect for Muhammed and Islam. "Show respect, you f*cking pig", screamed one veiled woman in falsetto, another who initially called to stop the film, just smiled when the row broke out.
A young woman who was very upset answered the question why she went to the lecture: "Uppsala is my town, I don't want Vilks to come here and show such things there. She should show respect."
Here's the film ''Allah ho Gaybar''
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crystalman
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Naumadd
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crystalman:
Obviously a set of individuals who demand the kind of respect that must be earned while confusing it with the kind of respect that does NOT have to be earned.
Freedom to worship as you choose in no way implies freedom from critique. Not surprisingly, Christians around the world and in the United States get that one wrong too.
Yes, Christians, Muslims, Jews - you ought to be at liberty to worship for reasons and in a manner you choose, however, most of your basic beliefs have no factual or logical basis and, in many instances are downright insane. You have no arguable right to prevent me from saying so OR to compel my own religious choices. If your messiahs, prophets and holy men are animals or madmen, I and many others like me will say so. Working to prevent such critique only supports the many arguments against you.
I personally grant you freedom of religion. I do not and am not required by any argument to grant your freedom from critique.
THAT is an unreasonable request of the clearly immature.
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Naumadd
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Thomas_Walton
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I had nasty copulations with Mohamad's Mom last night. That's what she said. Now come kill me. I guess I deserve it for saying stupid things.
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Thomas_Walton:
if death is warrented for saying stupid things now i know why the muslums want to kill us george bush
and it also explains palins fear of death pannels - 2 years ago
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freecrack
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freecrack:
If death is warranted for saying the "wrong" thing, what sort of punishment is deserving of those who are guilty of far more harm than simply opening their mouth?
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Naumadd
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freecrack
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Naumadd:
much like the insanity of double life sentences.
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freecrack
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PhiberOptik
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Ya... they are really civilized people for sure.. lol.. I can tell you this .. it really makes Muslims as a whole look really really dumb and bad...kinda sad really... But from watching this video I saw more younger ones acting like that.. The more mature ones were being okay.. I want to know how the one in the red jacket liked the Swedish mace that was sprayed on him..mmmm i bet it was good.. looked like it made him cry.. here is a QQ for him.
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Gephoria
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and i thought christians were insane
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Gephoria
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Gephoria:
extremist christians are insane--this story does nothing to dispute that.
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ryan8566:
hahahahahahah...maybe you need to get out more often..
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freecrack
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Gephoria:
different brand
manson and dahmer both nuts just different brands - 2 years ago
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freecrack
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galwayman
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they have no sense of humor and no human emotions either! the only thing they care about is death! we must put a stop to it!
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galwayman:
wow is that a broad generalization like america is the great satan?
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freecrack
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crystalman
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Don't forget Draw Mohammed Day on 20 May
- 2 years ago
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crystalman
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crystalman:
http://current.com/entertainment/comedy/92411363_draw-al-gore-day-scheduled-for-...
You can add Al Gore to the SuperBestFriends on the same day
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Argon18
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Naumadd
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crystalman:
Who the hell genuinely knows what Mohammed looked like? Isn't it "Draw and Make Fun of Some Guy with a Turban Sideburns Beard and Moustache Day? I mean, really. That picture could be any number of guys living in muslim countries right now and looks an awful lot like some persons in India or Pakistan too. Hell, there are cabbies or other persons here in the U.S. who look like that. In fact, I've seen them in Seattle. I've seen them in San Francisco and Los Angeles. I've seen them in Texas. I've seen them in Washington D.C. and Baltimore. I've seen them in New Orleans. I've seen them at Disney World and Universal Studios. I've seen them in Miami.
Should they all be put to death for daring to look like Mohammed? If I create a cartoon of some guy in a turban with sideburns a beard and a moustache living in Seattle who just happens to look like Mohammed, should I be put to death as well?
Any claim to genuinely know what THE muslim Mohammed actually looked like is an unreasonable one and deserves no merit.
They same can be said of the christian Jesus as well. No one can rightly defend their "best guess" and certainly not with violence and bloodshed.
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Naumadd
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crystalman
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Woof woof
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crystalman
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crystalman:
Yeah, as I mentioned - that could be just about any guy in a turban with a dog body.
To tell the truth, I wouldn't immediately guess that's even a dog's body. People making things up to get angry about in order to justify the violence that 's always on their minds to begin with.
Maybe auto manufacturers and architects should commit violence to protest the inaccurate depiction of a car and buildings in the drawing. "Two-Door Sedan Akbar!"
What about those other guys/gals in the drawing? Shouldn't their families be upset?
Ridiculous and deeply disturbing. Still, to be expected of the human species just barely removed from its savage roots.
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Naumadd