Obama Drug Policy calls for drugged driving charges for unimpaired marijuana users

A month after smokin a joint in MI will give you a positive drug screening, thus a DUID. Per Se? So the LEO can say to anyone who might of smoked canna or just stayed up all day workin the Census... "piss in this cup or you will go to jail you damned red-eyed hippie"

Americans need to wake up and quit hiding their heads in the sand. Too many people have believed the governments lies about cannibus being "dangerous and the need to ban its use." Is it going to take another revolution for the public to see how we are being manipulated.? Ask yourself---Are we REALLY free! President Reagan's argument against cannibus was "Citizens smoke pot,read and talk" as if educating ourselves and thinking for ourselves was a bad thing. Read,get involved and take back our rights. Government was created by the people,for the people and should reflect the will of the people.

While the "Zero tolerance for cannabis metabolites" sounds too strict, there should be a strong nationwide definition of DUID just like for DWI. DWI has a minimum blood alcohol level, so a similar level should be found for marijuana.

I consider this a step in the right direction- treat pot just like alcohol. If people want to smoke, fine, smoke. Just don't do something irresponsible while impaired.

And tax it too.

Hmmm, what does your drug policy say about you?

I think the under lying goals of the drug war are; legalized slavery, successful class warfare, making tons of "easy" money, and removing minorities from the rest of the population.

Very few things illustrate the magnitude of racism in this country, (simply by the disproportionate incarceration of minorities,) better than the "drug war"...

Mr. "Change We Can Believe in", this glimmering hope of a brighter day, is using the same racist policies we've been using for decades only pushing the envelope on enforcement....

America has more prisoners (actual numbers as well as per capita) than any other country on the planet - including China. So the thought of the day is: Is America actually free or were we all brainwashed to think it's free because it has been repeated to us so often while uncle sam force deep throated us with his massive dick called nationalism while the statue of liberty sodomized us with the torch of patriotism. America is fooling itself. We need to wake the fuck up or we're going to end up just like the move Idiocracy. Sometimes it feels like we are already there.

The lyrics "Proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free" makes me want to hang myself. It reminds me how frigging ignorant our fellow Americans are. It is macabre just how many of us love to demonize a particular group of people, for asinine superficial reasons and see them punished. Oh my ex wife loved to see people punished! It really pisses me off to have to share the world with cruel ignorant people.

It really is all about money. We let the corporations/big-business take over. They rule our politicians. they ARE our politicians. They make our laws. They (indirectly) collect our taxes, while they find ways to avoid paying theirs. Corporations are the single worst thing about this fucking corny, steamy, hot, sticky turd we call a country. I want our country back. I want it to be free. I want to love America again, but I'm just fuming pissed off right now at how fucking stupid everything is. That's why I rarely come on current anymore. It just pisses me off hearing all the stupid shit going on...

Yeah that was a rant. Sorry, it is what it is. I'm done with current for the day. I've reached my frustration limit. Good luck surviving the upcoming police state crack down on American "freedom". Bah!

In a country nearly bankrupt from all the waste, with 5 million locked up more than Russia or China, we cannot afford continued war against the people. In Minnesota where black families are broken up 9 times as often as white where there are blood test for moms,not dads though, when baby is born.
Who will bear the brunt of the new law? My guess will be the young black male who already has a task cut out trying to make a living and feed a family.
OK I got over giving away 700Billion to the banks under a shady quick deal.
If the policy is accurate then it gets harder to see where change is for the people.
In that event it would seem the solution is to vote out Every one that was involved in the Great 700 Billion Treasury Heist.To vote out all who make war on the people and to get some true change. With all the problems we have another tool to use against the people is sad.The President should have said no to the banks.To preach even more about what people do when one has taken part in the Great Heist is so dishonest.We are no longer a nation of laws but a nation where might and money rule where the banks in effect print money and dissension is crushed. What a shame, what a sham , a great crime has taken place and old people are being robbed by 0% interest that are more gifts to banks. The lesson seems to be lie cheat and steal.Mr President the people are hoping for better and you might consider what the results of such policy will be. A more hopeless youth? More expense for Courts ? More people redefined as criminal. Big Business gets a pass.
What a country.

gotta fill up them shiney new jails......gotta get em all...

I'm all for criminal charges for driving while on MJ... but there's one problem... MJ 'metabolites' are detectable for nearly a MONTH after use... so that's NOT a qualification for evidence.

unimpaired?

An unimpaired drug user? Whats-a-matter-you?

makes sense to me. this will be the first time I agree with Obama.

I do believe this qualifies as CHANGE.

Obama is exactly while I'll be voting for Ron Paul in 2012.

Anyone that has tried driving while stoned out of their mind know they are impaired. But some of these guidelines are rough. The testing is questionable...
I'm torn about this because I believe cannabis should be legal, definitely for medicinal purposes.
But not driving while stoned.....
Yet the court system is so unbalanced in many cases, the punishment for marijauna use is so broad and over done, yet we let child molesters and murderers free...Violent people! It's confusing....

THE DRUG WAR IS THE NEW SLAVE TRADE! I have to point out that half of all cases that enter a Lawyers office involve drugs. It‘s the Lawyers, aka Politicians, that make the laws. Do you really think they are going to cut their paychecks? Most prisons are build in Podunk Flats USA. The locals in these nowhere lands can find work in the prisons. Do you think they are for or against the war on drugs? Corporations supply billions of dollars in services to jails and prisons. They use their profits to lobby congress and keep their profits, while politicians get paybacks for their votes. All this makes human beings the other profitable commodity of the drug war, besides the drugs. We, THE PEOPLE, have become the product, we are the merchandise, we are the bread which they sell and from which they profit. The “Drug War” is a SLAVE TRADE. So much Pot, for so many people, for so many years in prison, for so much profit for so many of the ruling elites, the new slave traders, politicians, corporations, and dispirit workers. Once, if your skin was black, you could be a slave, now it’s if you come up dirty on a drug test, you loose your rights and they enslave you into their system. There is absolutely no difference. In each case, you are made a slave because of who you are. The 13th Amendment freed all the slaves in the USA. The 14th Amendment made the freed slaves US citizens. The 15th Amendment let all freed slaves vote in the US. The drug war takes all these rights away from the convicted. Hence, THE NEW SLAVE TRADE! There is a certain irony that a Black man, Oh’Bummer, would now become a willing participant in the new slave trade. Shame.

Obama, what a hypocrite that guy is. Build some more prisons i guess.
What a police state hell hole the US is becoming.

THIS IS NOT A STEP FORWARD, IT”S A STEP BACK! Alcohol metabolites can be detected in your blood up to 3 days after drinking. They will not test to see if you drank 3 days ago, because they figure your not drunk anymore. BUT, THC metabolites can be detected up to a month after smoking. They WILL bust you for getting stoned a month ago. Thanks Oh'Bummer, for the continued war on drugs. And people call this guy a liberal. Believe me he’s not, he‘s just another Corporate shill. Democrats are better then Republicans because Democrats will give us more bread and circuses. BUT, we are still only getting the scraps. “CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN.” That’s true, because I can believe there has been no change.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-newman/ap-bombshell-us-drug-war_b_575587.html

Tony Newman is the director of media relations at the Drug Policy Alliance (www.drugpolicy.org)

Yes, Mr. Walters, the tanks, bullets, prison bars and "reefer madness" have been misguided. Prohibition didn't work with alcohol in the '30s, it didn't work in our 40-year War on Drugs, and it never will.

It is time for an exit strategy from this failed War on Drugs. Let's make sure that it doesn't take another 40 years, millions more lives ruined, and billions of wasted tax dollars before we accept the obvious solution -- ending prohibition. It's up to us - as people who care about science, compassion, health, and human rights -- to make sure that the time comes as soon as possible.

If you get pulled over ( and you have smoked recently) Don't admit to anything. Call a lawyer. If you have smoked in the last FOUR hours, do NOT agree to a blood test. Your license will be taken away[1-2 years] if you refuse but it is way better than a DUI.

This will begin to further tear apart the fabric of society. Notice there is no concern from the government (or admission for that matter) that they are spraying toxic chemicals over our landscape, or that the C.I.A. is importing the drugs that our soldiers are tasked to defend in Afghanistan.

Yeah, smoke bowls in the car all day.

So the thing about some drugs are that they trigger chemicals in the brain.
There are some natural phenomenon which can cause drug-like effects, when no substance has been taken. How long until they start limiting your daily activities before you drive? i.e. driving after running = driving while on adrenaline high, driving while depressed, driving after sex, etc.

its the same old war on drugs.although i believe we shouldnt drive while
stoned.pot stays in thes system so how do they test for it.

This seems like a step toward legalizing pot if anything... Putting zero tolerance while operating a car is a requirement if weed is ever legalized.

Richard Nixon knew cannabis was not dangerous,yet he used it for political gain anyway. President Obama has smoke cannabis. He can't even claim he didn't know.

http://www.csdp.org/publicservice/nixon06.pdf
After Richard Nixon flattened the Democrats as soft on crime in the '68 election, the President-elect faced a dilemma. There's not much the White House can do to impact crime. The thugs people are afraid of — burglars, robbers, rapists, murderers — are the business of state courts. Then somebody mentioned drugs.

In a textbook example of fear manipulation, Nixon warned the country that a plague of unimaginable proportions was about to engulf the nation. “The problem has assumed the dimensions of a national emergency,” he said. To fight the pushers on their own terms, he would need emergency powers — preventive detention, unorthodox strike forces, more freedom to search, wire tap, and arrest.

For scientific support, he appointed former Republican Pennsylvania Governor Ray Shafer to head a National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse. He told Gov. Shafer to treat marijuana just like heroin despite the "obvious differences between marijuana and other drugs." He was even more direct withchief of staff Bob Haldeman. "I want a Goddamn strong statement about marijuana...that just tears the ass out of them."

But after months of testimony from academics, medical experts, lawmen and health professionals, the facts overwhelmed the myths. The report was devastating:“Marijuana use, in and of itself, is neither causative of, nor directly associated with crime...” It found no basis for the gateway theory. Alcohol, it said, was probably a greater danger, and the report concluded that personal use of marijuana should no longer be a crime.

The President hit the roof. He complained to Haldeman, "...every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish." In the face of the shooting war in Vietnam the Shafer Commission was quickly forgotten but the consequences of that cover-up are with us still. Since the 1972 release of that official report recommending legalization, we have arrested more than 14 million Americans8 at a cost of over $100 billion and the use of marijuana is undiminished.

the only good I see in this is a lot more people will be biking!

though I agree with most of the negative criticism- I just had to give some positive...(but thats probably the cannabis talking)!

Obama will not be getting my vote if he follows through with this that is for sure. I am so sick of the crap coming out of his Whitehouse lately.

This is complete and utter bull shit. Obama is making a very stupid move here, unless he is giving way to the "STEP UP THE WAR ON DRUGS" crowd. The war on drugs has been an utter failure and has given rise to the drug cartels that now threaten our southern border with Mexico.

OBAMA you need to wake the fuck up.

Stoned people drive slow, polite, and cautious. If they can't legally drive then why can the elderly?

why make illegal weed smoking while driving a DUI, which virtually never winds up with someone dead, when the regular legal alcohol drinking while driving DUI kills hundreds of people daily?

they should screen for viagra.. Nothing worse then driving behind a huge dick...

I guess that once a man officially becomes POTUS, he gives up all rational or independent thought & transforms into nothing but a puppet for Big Government.

Oh I have an idea, how about we administer the swab test. Much safer than drawing blood, and more cost effective than hair or urine testing, and IT ONLY HAS A WINDOW OF 12 HOURS so you could actually tell if someone smoked recently enough to impair driving. Or do they just want the money?

Funny story, driving blazed is not even close to driving drunk! Politics suck and this is what our system produces, flawed system=flawed results!

what the hell obama!

If the police mysteriously pull you over and you've been using marijuana then you probably weren't driving unimpaired, unless you have a giant "I do drugs" sticker on your car. You're not as unimpaired as you think you are druggies.

I live in Indiana right on the border of chicago and have two OWI's (operating while intoxicated). Both occered after i had passed both field sobriety tests and breathalizer but refused to submit to a blood screen. Indiana is the worst possible place to live for this kind of crap. How many tests do they feel the need to implement?

I can't wait to see how they try and enforce this. Piss test? thc stays in you for a week or more. I dont see the point other than just throwing people in jail and collecting money.

Damn the man! They should just legalize it everywhere if there putting it un a D.U.I law... government needs to stop bullshitting with the people and concentrate on the human race progressing.

Government will be government... Government exist mainly to to one thing, Make laws.... laws... laws... and more laws.

Really, it's only a matter of time until each and every action (except shopping for cheap Chinese slave goods) is a criminal offense.

Besides, criminalizing freedom creates jobs... jobs and more jobs.

For people who work in industries that benefit from the elimination of freedom.

Those people really do hate freedom and the American dream of liberty.

Just look at the stupid religion/MLM scams these people who hate freedom buy into... They sure love their cult leader worship, and will eliminate ALL freedoms in accordance with their idol worshiping leaders COMMANDS them.

I would bet to say that 99% of people who hate freedom are involved in some of brainwashing freedom hating dogma programming... aka Jesus worshippin' braindeads (people who believe everything they are forced to)

Like just because their cult leader was an alcoholic, that crap is in anyway good.

No, alcohol is poison... don't care who's cult leader used it.

Big fucking surprise. Before you know it... cops will be allowed to take your blood on the scene for testing. Police state, here we come!

Ha! I knew this was coming eventually, surprised it took so long really. I tried to explain to my mom once that driving while high wasn't illegal in almost all of the United States and she was like "NO ITS A DUI JUST LIKE ALCOHOL! ARGH" I was all "No, it's called Drugged Driving and its only illegal in like 14 states. The owning of marijuana itself is the crime they get you for." etc

but then again my father made a point if a Head wanted to he can take eye drops, play it cool, and fight the ticket. he could get away