Human Rights Act Divides the Coalition
source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/despite-public-harmony-coalition-parties-remai...
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Both Nick Clegg and Conservative Justice Secretary Ken Clarke are against changing or scrapping the Human Rights Acts.
Clegg stated "any government would alter the current legislation "at its peril"-BBC.
Clarke saying "proposals for a UK Bill of Rights as "xenophobic" and "anti-foreigner"-Independent
However, some papers are hinting some Conservatives are still looking to keep the UK Bill of Rights changes in a discussion.
Home Secretary Theresa May said this morning on Radio 4, "There's no decision on this particular issue... We are currently in discussions on it... We are in discussion as to what our approach should be. [...] We are talking to the Liberal Democrats about that, but you cannot say that, across the board, somehow we have sold out our supporters, when you look at the whole agreement that has been reached between us and the Liberal Democrats."-BBC
This story is developing and could go further, since the Human Rights Act came into discussion after two terror suspects could not be deported because of the act. I recall hearing briefly, Human Rights groups stating the two could still be trailed and sent to prison with the evidence gathered.
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PepsiJuror
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Do you know what Human Rights are?
Every person is entitled to certain rights – simply by the fact that they are a human being. They are "rights" because they are things you are allowed to be, to do or to have. These rights are there for your protection against people who might want to harm or hurt you. They are also there to help us get along with each other and live in peace.Many people know something about their rights. They know they have a right to be paid for the work they do and they have a right to vote. But there exist many other rights.
When human rights are not well known by people, abuses such as discrimination, intolerance, injustice, oppression and slavery can arise.
Born out of the atrocities and enormous loss of life during World War II, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was created by the United Nations to provide a common understanding of what everyone’s rights are. It forms the basis for a world built on freedom, justice and peace.
http://www.youthforhumanrights.org/introduction/player-viral.swf
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PepsiJuror
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PepsiJuror:
1) The rights of the individual cannot be defined by state power, they are inherent in human nature. The idea of a written list of rights is clumsy and ineffective (how many atrocities has the UDHR failed to prevent? Yep, all of them), and more importantly it's a stealth attempt to claim ownership of human rights by the UN. Nobody can declare your human rights for you, you have to declare them individually in every moment.
2) The UN is a governmental structure whose influence spans the globe. The idea that such an authoritarian body could possibly defend human rights is inherently absurd.
3) Intellectual property is not a human right when it interferes with the rights of others. Education is not a human right when it interferes with the rights of others. Voting is not a human right when it interferes with the rights of others (which is always in a democracy). Medical care is not a human right when it interferes with the rights of others. Shall I continue? The list of fucking worthless, compromised from beginning to end, speaking only of ordered, authoritarian society and saying nothing of true liberty.
4) "Youth For Human Rights" is a Scientology puppet organisation. Scientology is a cult. Please don't perpetuate their cult behaviour by promoting YHR.*phew* all done.
- 2 years ago
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Hostile
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Hostile
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The Human Rights Act is useless; human rights decend from the fact of human nature, not government permission. They have to be individually recognised, claimed and defended by each person, and asking government to safeguard your freedom is like letting the wolves watch your flock.
The HRA didn't stop Britons from being abducted for torture, it doesn't stop the government from spying on us, it can't stop them stealing from us or violently abusing us when we try to protest. And then the authors of the HRA have the disgusting nerve to refer to "education" as a human right. Education is NOT a right, and the belief that it is a right is a manufacture attempt by politicians to force every young child into the indoctrination structure that Briton tries to pass off as "education".
Fuck the Human Rights Act, just because it's got a nice name doesn't mean it's a good thing.
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cynker
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im shocked this is even being considered, this is terrible news:( - im out of the uk as soon as possible, it gets worse and worse!
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