27,000 Abandoned Gulf Oil Wells May Be Leaking

One of the funniest phrases I have ever heard has gotta be, " if _______ where true we would have heard about it by now!" REALLY!&? Why would they tell you? It's not like journalist have been investigating the wells' "keepin em honest" until, well, RIght Now!

The real story is how mammon (money) turns men into earthworms => good goes in one end and poop exits out on the ground from the other end. So we poop our way along til the crude oil poop piles up on the corn fields at harvest time.

Then our wives and children drive into it, play in it all the livelong day. Zippity Doo Dah Zippity Aye. Mr Bluebeard on my shoulder, everything is satisfactual.

Boomerang time EtVoila charging oil companies [or fining them] only recyles back around to coming out of our own pockets at the fuel pumps. As President Barack Hussein Obama is so fond of saying => This is the time. The only way to keep those reconstruction costs and Fines from boomeranging us all in the neck is to drop the ball now and pick up the new ball => totally electric cars and solar+wind combination systems for all homes [where both work spells the other therefore together the sun & wind feeds into the single unified system].

Barack is going to save us soon. He has a big speech he's working on right now, I read about it just yesterday. The discovery and Public Outting of these abandoned oil wells will spur him to run harder than ever before. This is Obama's Day to shine brighter than the sun and the stars of heaven. This Hussein is a good Hussein, and he will do what is needed to raise the human race to its proper level.

I suspect he's going to release that new pill that makes people build more muscle that they have been working on from the little kid they found who is Superman strong, and also I suspect he will be releasing the cures for all cancers.

This is Obama's Day my friends and he IS going to bring the bounty basket home. I am very jealous over what I know he is poised & able to do.

You make a good point, but i think the concern here is that no has checked on the wells so no one knows if they're spilling or not. that sounds like a legit concern.

They said in the piece B.P. owned 600 themselves. That sounds believable.
Think of all the times they probably take a stab at the old earth and see how much crude they can suck out.
If the cost to extract the oil is greater than the profit to be gained from the oil, then it's time to pack up shop.

Peak Oil.

i use no oil... except for the occasional plastic bottle or wrapper that pops up from time to time... oh yeah and trips for Saturday morning garage sales, but i use almost no oil. its all about the lowrider bikes :D

...I went through kitchen like a woman possessed just the other day and threw everything out that was plastic, teflon...went and bought a truckload of glass and stainless steel...and keep that voice of yours' ringing out loud and clear, matey...

Excellent, because that Teflon pan lying around was consuming so much oil, but having steel mined, refined, melted, formed into a pan, boxed and shipped to an air conditioned store for you uses no oil! And what do you get for all that? A worse pan than you had before. Yay consumer!

ALL PRODUCTS are petroleum products. That will be the case until our energy comes from renewable sources. Until that point replacing your "petroleum" products with "non-petroleum" products is just more consuming which means more petroleum. The same is true for hybrid cars. If you junk a perfectly good car to get a "green" one, it will take you nearly the whole life of the car to save the energy it took to build it.

If you want to help the environment today you have to just consume less in general. Hang on to that Teflon pan until it falls apart. But that hurts the economy. The best thing you can do is invest in renewable energy companies, support politicians who support alternative energy, and punch a conservative.

...well, thanks for that lecture...I'll do it in my own way...

Good for you, and will do.

Wow, that's really great! I wish I could do something like that, but I'd probably find myself grounded for quite a long while.

Well of course you will. Who cares if your way actually uses more energy? Remember, the point isn't to make a difference, but to feel good about yourself. With enough useless gestures, we can get rid of all guilt without even having to solve any tough problems. Then we can all relax with our "truckload" of products and blame other people for the state of the environment. It's much easier that way.

"punch a conservative"....I'm putting that motherfucker on a t-shirt.

LOL...you may want to give me a detailed list of what you are doing...I take it, you don't drive, don't shop, don't work, dont cook, and your home is totally solar powered...go find a pulpit somewhere else, Mr Christian...cheers, and I'll ut another prawn on the barbie for you, Blu...xo

...lol...

...lol? No, ma'am, lol... but not for your lol. Rather, lol at your lol.

Seconded.

May I use "With enough useless gestures, we can get rid of all guilt without even having to solve any tough problems" as a cited quote from you? I wish I could Up you again.

I don't believe DougChristian is trying to assault you, per-se; he's merely trying to inform you of your logical fallacy (we all make them, so don't take him as being condescending). What torques me is that you come on here and preach how you're so happy that you are progressing toward a more environmentally friendly house--but when someone actually approaches you and says, "Hey-uh, you really aren't helping it. You may actually be less efficient."--you don't want to correct yourself! You can't even defend your actions, but merely attack the person.

You also used another logical fallacy termed, "Tu quoque." It's latin for essentially, "You did it, too." It's a technique where you dodge the actual argument made against your belief/action by shifting the attention to the opposing view, criticizing the person--not the action. Two wrongs don't make a right.

I'm sure he does drive to work, cook with oil, have plastic products, etc., but that's not the point he was making. DougChristian said himself that it's nearly impossible to be more energy efficient without drastic cuts in consumption across the board--it's not done by disposing of older products to buy more or less of the same with a different material and a "Green" sticker on it.

The mean thing for DougChristian to do would be to see your comment--see the mistake you're making--and let you keep thinking you're actually doing something for the environment, besides making perhaps a weak public statement.

There is a difference between calling names and attacking the user; then it's another thing altogether to call somebody out on the inconsistencies within their actions, or "oxymoronic" maneuvers--especially when most of the current users are in pursuit of a greener environment. If DougChristian started off his post by saying "You're an idiot..." and went on from there, I would say yes--he's being unnecessarily harsh. Sarcasm, when used correctly however, has the power to be blunt and eye-opening. It wasn't meant to beat up another current user.

JanforGore >>> ECOCIDE = SUICIDE has never been as clear as it is right now. Obama can and will pull this out because #1 he wants to and #2 he can do it. He has the puzzle pieces IN HIS HANDS not only for saving Americans but to take the game ball home for the entire population of Planet Earth.

If he does this thing right I will get in touch with the companies now designing those giant solar towers and tell them a few ways how to magnify their output that they apparently have not considered. There are a few ways to make the solar towers drop the hammer into exponential speed.

When Obama dunks the ball I drop the hammer on solar power.

We can stuff that 2012 threat down the oil wells too.

Good points Doug but also for Eden49 who has a big loving heart. Uhm, you're coming up a bit short on hybrid cars tho. Hybrids having a two-engine system, when they are in a wreck the damage done to them is much worse and sometimes even warrants SCRAPPING THE HYBRID a total write-off and loss.

So the carbon footprint down the road from switching to hybrid vehicles very likely hasn't been reduced like people are told to believe.

The need then is to switch to a true hybrid engine. A "true" hybrid engine is a single engine that combines several fuels into a single fuel that goes EXPONENTIAL BEYOND HYBRID HORSEPOWER => AT THE SAME TIME BEING HALF THE SIZE OF PRESENT COMBUSTION ENGINES.

I have the design for such an engine. It combines steam injected just ahead of liquid air droplets, creating a semi-vacuum in the engine cylinder so that the FULL AIR EXPLOSION SLAMS INTO THE PISTON HEAD vastly harder than any "air-powered car" being built today.

It is a much smaller engine system. It is self-cooling because the cold air and hot steam cancels each other out. It does not need for a radiator, hoses, catalytic converters (that are poisonous of themselves to the environment), and no poison antifreeze to later escape into our drinking water underground.

THAT, Sir, is a true hybrid [two-fuel] engine system. Having no exhaust = NO MUFFLERS AND NO TAILPIPE = it is magnificent to behold just thinking about it. By reducing total vehicle weight + a lighter engine weight my system realizes a tremendous NET HORSEPOWER GAIN + the carbon footprint drops like a rock headed for China => Zippity Doo Dah has arrived my friends, just waiting on the Obama to come running down the basketball court dribbling the game ball @@@@@@@.

A few of those "old Honda Accords" slipped out of the factory that were getting 85 damn miles to the gallon. 12 and 15 years ago Honda had an altered engine they worked up and a few somehow got sold by mistake. I wonder who it was in the oil industry paid off Honda to keep that engine away from consumers?

You actually mean the opposite of everything you type. I wonder how many posters realize how much you just plugged my engines?

Sorry if I offended you. If you are more swayed by sincere, nice dialogue, then seek that out and avoid smart-asses. I write a certain way only because I enjoy writing that way. If it shocks someone into another way of thinking that's great. If it offends, well I don't really care very much.

Awesome. I'll buy one.

Thanks for the defense. And definitely feel free to quote me anytime, I'm honored.

Prius is the stupidest fucking thing to ever come out.
"Environmentally friendly" my ass.
Did you know that there is a strip mine in Canada where the nickel used to make the batteries come from is one of the most deadly ecological disaster sites in the world. For 25 miles around the mine, no plants or vegetation grow because the nickel and mining equipment is that toxic. Then, they use the cheapest (and dirtiest) cargo ships to haul the nickel to China, where the batteries are produced. The factory there is also highly polluting, the nickel and other toxic output of the factory ends up in the air as a dense brown fog, and being washed away by a local "river", now just an open sewer that contains runoff from the factory. This runoff then goes to a larger river, a river that is used for drinking water by the local people. The average life expectancy for those living around the factory is 27 years. Then the batteries are shipped to Japan using the dirtiest and cheapest ships possible, where they are combined with the cars. They are then later shipped to America, using, once again, the cheapest and dirtiest ships possible.

Which mine in Canada are you referring to?

its in Sudbury Canada
near Ontario, I Believe

There are many Ni mines there. Do you happen to know the name of the specific mine? Have you been there?

It's actually a whole industrial area that contributes to the pollution...
hold on i'll find it for you...

it appears that the name is just "Sudbury Nickel Mine", i wasn't able to find the corporation that owns it, however i can tell you that the area around it has been devastated by the mining operation, putting sulfur oxides as well as nickel extracts into the atmosphere, causing acid rain thats so strong it can do minor damage to the skin
the area has been reduced to a "moonscape" which NASA uses to test lunar and mars rovers, because of the areas similarity to the surface of a planet with very little or no atmosphere.

I've been to most of the mines in this region. Most mines, no matter where they are produce unwanted by products but the mines in Sudbury actually operate under some of the industry's highest standards, at least those I have been to.

no matter how high their standards are, it doesn't ultimately make it clean in any sense of the word. nickel is one of the most toxic compounds to mine, specifically because when it is mined, it is usually found near other toxic compounds, such as sulfur oxide. by itself its toxic enough, but when its close to elements such as sulfur, it generally creates environmental hazards no matter how high standards are.

may i inquire as to what you do as a profession, and why you have been to these mines?

I am a partner at a political/investment advisory and investment banking firm. I spend a great deal of my time visiting and evaluating mining oil and gas operations primarily in the frontier markets.

I am becoming increasingly interested in simply living off the grid.