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You are making a lot of assumptions about Islam as a whole. We are talking about extremists here. Characterizing this as a Muslim wide tendency is disingenuous. There are over 1 Billion Muslims and they are not all engaging in this kind of violence. We are talking about a hand full when you compare the groups involved with the entire world of Islam.

Islam is extreme, be thankful that not all Muslims are faithful, but they are in fear of apostasy, therefore it is the extreme who rule, 'till the day they do not, free will is in jeopardy.

Well, that same argument can be made for Christians, or Jews, but we seem to like this type of generalization when it comes to something horrible like this, or the flotilla, or the homophobia going on in Uganda....it's a good point Jubal, but it tends to be true for all religions I think. It is so easy to judge the entire religion for the actions of the small faction of extremists.

I was thinking about the other extremists, but since the topic was Islam...I kept it there. But thanks for bringing it up.

if only we had a mirror that we all as a society couldnt avoid.so we could see how the same broad catagorizations we make of others is wrong, based on it being done to us.i mean look at the french, as they are the only ones who call us out on our shit.is how they catagorize us accurate.are we all stupid, and pepper ever statement with dude and like?
muslums arent evil
jews arent evil
christians arent saints
we are all just people irrespective of classification.why is this so difficult a concept.

Then 'they' win...

i think he meant the neanderthalic mindset that makes every discussion an us and them proposition.american greed yeah, islam boo

practice runs

no not really

not even close to robin hood ethics

We know ....? Speak for yourself.

Sounds mighty personal to me........now what about the story ?

Still following me I see. Pathetic.

He hates Al Gore so he takes it out on me by proxy. Totally immature.

sorry, i stopped giving him material to work off of, but if you want i can take him off your hands again.just post a contentious story about israel, or better yet jews, and he will come running to spread viral hatred away from you.
isnt it nice to be needed though lol

not telling you how to be you or nothing, but maybe you are taking shit too personaly.jan takes offense to alot of shit, i mean i dont think she and i have ever (ive been here for about 3 maybe 4 yrs) had a pleasant exchange, but i dont think she personaly hates me, just my ideas.
until zichi posted my personal info online i didnt take his shit personaly either, nor do i take yours.

arguing a position is just that maybe, not personal.

if you really want to know where my ethnic focus is as a jew its on the vatican, not the romans or whomever you assume.im not even really that pissed at the nazis, as stupid is as stupid does.

but you just proved my point with precision.i suspected the mention of jews would get your focus, and tada it did.thanks for solidifying my theory.

jan,seriously dont even attempt to speak to that troll.Hopefully he'll go away.

so what about the story or are here just to follow people around trying to pick fights ?

Yeah really, something is not right here...this person says they want to get rid of the cancer of democracy, they are seeking live doners (can't even spell right) and they want a Monarchy....if that ain't some creep-ed out made up shit I don't know what is. Live donors for what? Human sacrifice?

Isn't following someone around and paying them unwanted attention considered stalking?

I truly am sorry to read about your kidney condition and your need for a transplant. My cousin had to have one and she waited for a few years...it was nerve racking. But shouldn't you not be drinking martinis with your kidney problem. I know the doctors would have taken my cousin off the list if they new she had been drinking. Its absolutely forbidden. Perhaps you should lay off of those until your health is restored.

I disagree with your assessment about democracy. Democracy works what destroys democracy is the inherent inclination towards evil that is present in free market capitalism. There is nothing to guarantee that capitalists will act in the best interest of all humanity...they tend to be a short sighted lot...preferring huge gains in the short run and forget about the fact that if they destroy the environment and take all the wealth for themselves...there won't be any consumers left.

Where were you when the bombs were planted ? If I had a kidney disorder, I would work on being as nice to everyone as I possibly could for various reasons.1st). I would being trying to create peace and harmony in my own mind, body and soul.
2nd). I'd be nicer to people, like Jan, in particular because you really don't know where your help will come from.
3rd) I have hepatitis B, and I take my liver very serious. I stop drinking alcohol over 16 years ago. I know people with kidney disorders and NONE of them drink alcohol. Your doctors will allow you to die if that's what you choose to do.

You're really playing with fire in more ways than one.

P.S. Stop acting like a terrorist yourself.

I think it's horrible that terrorists do horrible things. But they do horrible things every day. It's not every day that we have a terror suspect in our midst.
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I don't know about that. You seem to have no problem terrorizing people by chasing them from story to story without cause or provocation. What's your point behind all of this if you really think that terrorism is wrong ?

There is no formula on how one act in threatening situations. It is easy to give advice but as in any puzzle the peaces must fit.

i didnt even get a chance to respond before some one flagged ya.looks like your making enemies and cant play nicely with others.nice knowing ya.

you are just baiting even more patheticaly than jj.
i have nothing about the vatican to share as they do not pertain to this story in the slightest.
i was just clarifying for you,as you seemed to need to know who i point the finger at in terms of malevolent persecusion of the jews, and i take issue with the vatican.
im hardly going to get into that on this thread as this has nothing to do with europe, jews, or catholics in particular.

i have no idea why it was flagged, no less pulled either, as you have said way way way worse shit on other posts, but that means some one is pretty interested in making you go away.see ya wouldnt want to be ya

ya got it wrong, freecrack can take it and stand his ground, he's not a whiner... has that martini kicked into overdrive?

i flagged zichi for putting my shit our there for public consumption, cuz its just rude if nothing else, and before that like probably 6 moths ago or so i flagged some idiot for saying something so racist against blacks, it couldnt be dignified with a response.
without opposition intelligent (you) or otherwise (achem ^) i would just be saying my ideas to no one.i would just start a blogg page i guess.but he will think what he thinks regardless of reasoning

that is my endevour, to verbaly bitch slap antisemites.i take delight in beating on homophobes,racists of all sorts,and islamophobes as well, but countering antisenitism is my main deal.(although the current climate has me defending islam more than anything else)
in a perfect world all the antisemites that exist would be here on current for me to destroy through logic and reason, having you guys booted from here means i lose the ability to confront your rediculous accusations about me, my family past and present, and my people in general.
the last thing i want is for you guys to be booted.
i wish the jews of preww2 europe had message boards to see the kind of hate speech, and forces at work against them so they would know how to overcome it instead of be victimized by it.

.some one goes thier entire lives never meeting a jew, and only knowing what local racist mentality says about us, and while you echo it, it feels like home to them.but when i counter it logicaly it is a new perspective that they never had before.if all you antisemites went away, i would have no one to work off of.just as you need us as the permanent target, i need you to create defenses from that targeting.

im not interested in changing your mind,as racism only flourishes in the field of ignorance.i cant make the igorant smart or the hatefull not hate, but i can negate the bullshit it

nice try

the prpblem is some peoples broad assumptions.i think thier are only about half a doz actual antisemites on here, but feel free to tell me what i think, as you would of course know better.

i dont think you are an anti semite cuz at no point have you made a point of grouping all jews together as one, ignoring individual merit.but at the same time while not being hatefull one can espouse the speech,concepts,narratives of the hatefull, wich the left media runs a foul of regularly.
i think you are mixing me up with crystalman, i dont make a point of calling or branding anyone as an antisemite, as this forum doesnt allow for any kind of real substative evaluation.the few people on here who are legitimate antisemites have proven it with theyre own diatribes.i will however call out antisemitic statements where ever i see them, regardless of thier source.letting you know you have said something that is antismitic isnt calling you an antisemite, just as saying something racist, doesnt define you as racist, just unaware.

if you want to think israel is an international bully you are more than entitled to that, as no government is above criticism, but equaly i will prove you wrong as they are not.if the defense of israel means anything other than just that to you, it is an error on your part and i cant help you with that.i dont believe in zionism or anything other than the facts germain to the situation at hand.wich is israel lives with nieghbors who are more agressive than any other that a civilized nation has had to deal with, and despite that being the case, every day that they dont wipe the palastinians off the map (wich is the basis of hamas and fatah by the way to wipe israel off the map) is a testament to who is doing the right thing and who is not.

please let me say it again though, a zillion posts exist for this discission on any number of levels, but this thread isnt one of them.feel free to spread what ever idealogy you want in reference to israel on any israel thread and assuredly i will get into it with you, but for the love of god,understand that this story has nothing to do with what we are talking about.so to continue with out a focus is just a waste of time.

look you deserve no respect, as you dont give any, but the green bud makes me compassionate beyond reason or balance.im giving you a heads up, you are going to be gone if you keep insisting on behaiving as you have been.although you have professed to not be jj, you are functioning identicaly to him earning the distain from the current community.i mean if a handfull are compelled enough to bother to type it out and let you know this, you can rest assured that many more feel the same but dont care to dignify you.i dont think you are that smart, as your commentary is born out of friction rather than thought, but you have used some rather mighty fine s.a.t. words so im doing my bid to hope this penitraits your skull, and tell you to cut it out.

i mean current pulled a post you put up that for the life of me i will never know why. in that particular comment what you typed didnt violate anything aside from good taste, but gone it was,before i even had a chance to respond to it.and lets not bullshit,my sorry ass is on here more often than its not.you flagged a response to you from me that was littered with negative sentiments, but the refraising of one incomplete sentence is all that was required to allow it to remain.by all standards you are on thin ice around these parts wether you can see the signs or not.everyone is hating on ya calling you a troll, the staff is knocking you out of the box, what more do you need?you have literaly two options,play nice or dont play at all.as it is the choice is yours, but if someone flagged that comment, and current also pulled it, the decision is going to be made for you.

in response to your comment, i guess your scroll bar must not be working.

-sorry, i stopped giving him material to work off of, but if you want i can take him off your hands again.just post a contentious story about israel, or better yet jews, and he will come running to spread viral hatred away from you.

is how this started, no issues about anything other than the fact that israel is a subject matter you cant refuse, and you came through with flying colors.my theory, your move ergo party.
i repeatedly said discussing israel here is innapropriate but you keep trucking on.

1-im hardly going to get into that on this thread as this has nothing to do with europe, jews, or catholics in particular.

2please let me say it again though, a zillion posts exist for this discission on any number of levels, but this thread isnt one of them.feel free to spread what ever idealogy you want in reference to israel on any israel thread and assuredly i will get into it with you, but for the love of god,understand that this story has nothing to do with what we are talking about.so to continue with out a focus is just a waste of time.

3-does it really take three times before a concept is understood.here and now, not the time nor place.got it?

use the search option and type in jews,or israel, or what ever the fuck you want and have a field day

what ever the fuck ever man.you are just simply beyond redemption

More than likely if uganda catches them they'll treat them nicer than they do homosexuals.

especially when houlligans are notoriously violent anyway, its just a waste of effort really.redundant if nothing else, kind of how we make sure some one os healthey before we execute them.leave sports fans to theyre own desires and they will destroy each other, just not in the name of god, but in he name of theyre team.

Terrorist's have got to be the biggest party crashers in the history of man
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Dude you should think about coining that phrase. That is an all time classic.

yeah more violence might not be the answer...

Your right. All those people need is a big hug and kissy kissy. Then we can all stand around and sing Kumbaya and all will be well.

OMG! I had no idea toxic waist was being dumped on Somalia!!! It has to have killed hundreds of their people, maybe thousands! Sounds like a good idea!

that's really a sick thing to say.

Yeah Somalia is getting the toxic waste as payback for not submitting to Western influence.

You have no idea what makes someone a zealot , do you .

What you people do not seem to get is that some places in the world, Somalia, Afghanistan, central Africa, ARE HOPELESS! Those people are never going to change unless we bomb them into oblivion, OR, we get really stupid and commit billions of dollars, troops, blood, and countless years to change them. BTW, it still will not work. However, do nothing and we will just get bombed. Your choice, your ass.

I have an idea what makes someone a zealot, and that is real unfortunate. BUT, when someone is trying to kill me and mine, attacking my people and my country, I will wipe them and their seed from the earth. It's like you break in my house Charlie, and you will not leave standing up straight. I don't care about their cry baby reasons. There is no fixing them for any amount of money.

Skip to 35:00 to get a quick clip that gives you the basic idea about Omar and al-Shabab

I don't know how else to say this, but, people are dead. And you may mean well but it looks like you are using that to plug your own show. (?)

i do it often with negative results, so i wasnt going to point out the seemingly poetic oportunism.or the sneaking suspicion that currents articles of prominance may be selected on the basis for elevating a specific agenda.color me crazy but somehow when articles with 20 views and two comments are front page number one stories seems fishy.

Hi Jan, I'm not sure if you really meant to reply to Shana here, but posting more illuminating information on the same issue, regardless of the source, is the whole idea behind current's comments section. Christof's piece couldn't be more pertinent to this tragic piece of headline news.

time will tell.

Ha i like your transition there.

Say something that everyone will agree with :)

We should get them to attack eachother , and take bets ?

my god is better than yours so there, ill blow you up to prove it

Is whose god better? Possibly the one that defines war on "unbelievers" to subjugate as slaves as the divine will of it's god?
~ Much like our govt today, huh?
There is a world-wide war of ideologies, and these struggles are impacting the whole of humanity

Well youre technically an infidel so you should choose a side now cause theyre gonna kill you anyway.

thats an existencial leap your taking there that i doubt most will recognize or understand.but its funny (odd not haha) that your position is the same in thisinstance as mine is when i defend islam.its not the quran that does the killing its politicos using it as a vehicle, just as torquemeda used jesus,as we use democracy,as the soviets used communism.

but still you hold to the "islam is evil" bit despite it being just a portion of the larger fallible human picture.islam literaly means peace yet they kill.jesus spoke of only love yet they hated.we are all about freedom as we oppress.why is islam sectioned off as seperate from these other forms of similar cognative errors, as opposed to just being another form?

Islam is evil, the desire of the faithful to fulfill it edicts, is to hold all humanity to the insanity of it's doctrine, which still remains in the dark ages. . . no matter what the apologist rhetoric may be, the fact remains the same, Islam intends to subjugate all humanity to it's will. . . the Qur'an dictates it and the faithful intend to implement it, and they openly declare it. . . and yet you believe they are not?