Ground Zero diggers uncover hull of 18th century ship
source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/15/world-trade-centre-hull-ship
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The vessel was probably used along with other debris to fill in land to extend lower Manhattan into the Hudson river, archaeologists have said.
It was hoped the artefact could be retrieved by the end of today, said archaeologist Molly McDonald. A boat specialist was going to the Ground Zero site to examine the find.
McDonald said she wanted to at least salvage some timbers; it was unclear if any large portions could be lifted intact.
"We're mostly clearing it by hand because it's fragile," she said. Construction equipment may be used later in the process.
McDonald and Michael Pappalardo, an archaeologist, were at the site of the 11 September 2001 attacks when the hull was discovered on Tuesday morning.
"We noticed curved timbers that a back hoe brought up," McDonald said. "We quickly found the rib of a vessel and continued to clear it away and expose the hull.
"We're going to send timber samples to a laboratory to do dendrochronology to help us get a sense of when the boat was constructed." Dendrochronology is the science that uses tree rings to determine dates and chronological order.
A 45kg (100lb) anchor was found a few yards from the hull on Wednesday but the experts are not sure if it belongs to the ship. The anchor was about a metre across, McDonald said.
The archaeologists are racing to record and analyse the vessel before exposure to air makes the delicate wood deteriorate.
"I kept thinking of how closely it came to being destroyed," Pappalardo said.
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SumthinFoolish
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Hey everybody. Let's not discuss this in relation to our thoughts on the 9/11 attacks. This is archaeology and should be treated as such. Thank you:)
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SumthinFoolish
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M_i_k_a
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Its so nice, after all these years, that something useful and good came out of these 'attacks.' Who is really prepared to fathom what would have happened had this stupid little boat been destroyed?
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M_i_k_a
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LozRiva
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Seems pretty sensitive, just building some rubbish on the sight wouldn't be the right way to go surely. People are saying it hits them every time they pass it. What do they think should of been put up? and how long should they have waited? a week, a mont, year?
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LozRiva
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likeamazing
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now that's diversity...
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likeamazing
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idealist
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interesting......history
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idealist
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HeroMAY
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Another reason as to why the Towers where knocked down. Two birds with one stone. Pass new Laws...unearth a long sorted artifact. It's always more than meets the eye with these mofo'z!
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HeroMAY
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ghostofamerica
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is this the 'my college aged daughter got drunk' post?..oh shoot, nevermind that, this is the ship they were using to get the gold out before 911.
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ghostofamerica
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rodstradamus
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I looked into 9/11 and all I found was the New World Order. Its been almost 9 years of ignorance, censorship and propaganda.. You better wake the f*ck up...and fast. I knew that many Americans are fat, lazy and dumb, but come on already. Sure, you're a disgrace to your four fathers, but there's still time for redemption. Watch: Loose Change, Fabled Enemies, 9/11 Truth Rising for specific data on 9/11, or check out some of the many other videos I posted on my site. Its all there; there's no excuse.
www.current.com/groups/conspiracy-films - 1 year ago
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YouAreDumb
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rodstradamus:
It's forefathers, not FOUR fathers.
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YouAreDumb
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rodstradamus:
the entire world is being fooled not just us americans
the whole world has 2 wake up - 1 year ago
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UrbanGypsy
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9 years of digging and all they have accomplished is finding an old wooden ship? What have they been doing all this time? I mean, the find is interesting, but I thought this was supposed to be a construction site, not an archaeological dig.
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UrbanGypsy
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likeamazing
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UrbanGypsy:
there's plenty been done. one world trade center is almost risen above the skyline at this point. also the memorial pools are nearly done. wtcprogress.org
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likeamazing
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UrbanGypsy:
True, but remember it was a Memorial for a long time before they started work. Quite rightly so.
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LozRiva
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musicjohnny
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"Well, I could be wrong, but I believe diversity is an old, old wooden ship"
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remanns
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They might as well take their time when they find that sort of thing,........its not as if they are exactly racing along to begin with.
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remanns
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ozoneocean
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Noah's Arc? :)
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ozoneocean:
LOL that would be great!
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AceMF
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Armageddon_Now
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Finally, a silver lining. Now it's all been worth it.
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composerland
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I'd rather have the Twin Towers back, or at least a proper forever memorial park given over to remembering the worst calamity New York has seen. It is still an open wound...
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ssppeencceerr
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It's a complicated situation and with a little goggleing you can find out why....
it's because the land is controlled by two different entities and they've been arguing about who can do what and lots of BS basically.
Stupid really. But if you go to GZ they are FINALLY getting a lot of things done.
but it's also very tricky property in the lay out with subway and train tunnels underneath. - 1 year ago
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ScottyT
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Maybe it's a pirate ship---yarrrrrrr!!!!
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KSirys
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What bullshit!! 9 yrs and we still don't have anything there... WTF is wrong with NY????
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KSirys:
agreed, the city that never sleeps is taking a power nap on this rebuilding.
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KSirys:
I have been of that opinion for a loooooooooooooooooong time. I think they built the Empire State building in less than 2 years. +^d
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KSirys:
it's a union job what do you expect ?
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bailey78
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bailey78:
I don't care!! Remanns just said it took 2 years to build the Empire State building... why are we on year 9 and still nothing??? I'm sorry, but even with the faults this country has, I love this country! I wanted to go and fight in the war because of the attack. There should be something there... at least half a building or the full, but something!!!!
I live 20 minutes from the site and it's hits me every time i pass by... there's nothing there... there's nothing showing that we rebounded and came out stronger... nothing.. just a hole in the ground with cops around it...
IT FUCKING SUCKS!!!
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KSirys
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bailey78
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KSirys:
yea man I know we are not the country that we used to be. But who is to blame for that?
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bailey78
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KSirys:
The problem has been that we cant decide what to do with it. Some people want to make it into a monument while others want to make it the tallest building in the world. Theyve brought in multiple architects and gotten many different designs but a decision still hasnt been made. Doesnt help were Billions in debt as a state...
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KSirys
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fun_size:
fun_size i know that already... and work was suppose to start several times now. The owner was paid his insurance money as well... but how convenient he raised the value of the insurance a few weeks or a week before the attacks? lol..
Like i said.. i know all the stories... it's just sad there's nothing there.
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KSirys
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KSirys:
people seem to be missing the point, there is nothing there yet for a reason. Some people might not have been that happy with them just erecting another American shopping mall on the ground. It is a rather sensitive area for a lot of Americans i am sure.
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LozRiva
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alexandrek:
it's 9 yrs.. really?
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alexandrek:
no biggie!! ... i was more like "9 years isn't enough?" lol...
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alexandrek:
i know, but that's a problem... they are digging for what? gold? lower floors? better support? oh well... all i know is the president, governor and mayor don't care... so it's a good thing i'm not voting for them next time...
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KSirys
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CalgarC
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archeologists are going to put the vessel in the museum of historic artifacts next to king tuts tomb and an old floppy disk...
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bailey78
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CalgarC:
and a beta tape.
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bailey78
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CalgarC
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bailey78:
ah the good ol days...
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onemalefla:
Jimmy Hoffa?
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alexandrek:
Hey he has to be some where
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bailey78
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EmperorThan
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Might as well turn Ground Zero into an archeological digging site, they're not doing anything else with the site apparently. Everytime I've been to NYC it looks the same, big hole in the ground.
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EmperorThan:
so true, im guessing right around 2020 the foundation should be poured, lol
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device80
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Incredulous
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it's such a bizarre picture...it almost reminds me of an operating room and a surgical procedure... with that little patch of dirt resembling the opening in the body being worked on. eerie.
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Incredulous
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device80
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sorry guys, im a nerd when it come to artifacts....lol
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device80
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bailey78
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device80:
hey this is cool I always like to read this kind of stuff.
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