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Leaked reports describe Afghan war, sometimes in mundane detail - CNN.com

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48 comments // Leaked reports describe Afghan war, sometimes in mundane detail - CNN.com

  • NothingIsAbsoluteTruth
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      NothingIsAbsoluteTruth  

    • I am all for helping people in need, but in the case of Afghanistan/ Iraq, it seems that we are doing more harm than good. One has to look at the definition of war and what it means to be at war with someone else. What has it been seen the first rock was thrown? It has always been about power, land, resources, and so on. It has always been taking from others what does not belong to you or forcing customs onto people that do not want it. Now in the middle east seems like a good place to have a war considering we go through millions of barrels of oil every day...

    • 1 year ago
  • MilchMann
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      MilchMann  
    • NothingIsAbsoluteTruth:

      why o why do people insist on re-defining war all the time. "War is thus an act of force to compel our enemy to do our will." - Clausewitz 'On War' Chapter 1 page one 'What is War'. Further more.
      "Kindhearted people might of course think there was some ingenious way to disarm or defeat an enemy without to much bloodshed, and might imagine this is the true goal of the art of war. Pleasant as it sounds, it is a fallacy that muse be exposed: war is such a dangerous business that the mistakes which come from kindness are the very worse. The maximum use of force is in now way incompatible with the punction, undeterred by the bloodshed it involves, while the other side refrains, the first will gain the upper hand. That side will fore the other to follow suit; each will drive its opponent toward extremes, and the only limiting are the counterpoises inherent in war." What are counterpoises?
      "War is nothing more than a continuance of diplomacy." All of that is more Clausewitz of course.

      See, the real issue here is not harm or good, it is an agenda... a confused one at that. You must remember two things at all times. It is only wrong if you get caught, and that history is written by the winners... you should take a minute to ponder that.

      We spent 50 plus years preaching to the world about global economies. Yet they get here and we have very vocal appeals to shutting our borders and becoming reclusive, in other words not playing our own game. We enter a war in the most notoriously unconquerable part of the world committing 37k troops and waisting our supporting resources else where (200k+ troops and countless contractors in Iraq), in an area 1/3 the size.

      And then we have you come along and say that we are doing more harm by being there without ever questioning why we were attacked on September 11. Are we doing more harm though? Hell no! We did more harm by not being there before in a humanitarian since (and I don't mean Christian fucktrad missionaries posing as doctors), and now we are paying the piper. Unfortunately we let someone screw that up for 8 years too.

      The smart thing would have been to go in, destroy, leave, and "allow" China or some other "innocent" third party rebuild and establish world commerce, but no one ever accuse military brass of having intelligence... all puns intended... actually I think there might have been a man with that plan (Colon Powell) but he was told to quite and shut up...

    • 1 year ago
  • NothingIsAbsoluteTruth
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      NothingIsAbsoluteTruth  
    • MilchMann:

      How was I redefining war? You said yourself it is about agenda, which is what i said "forcing your wants on someone else" or forcing your agenda on someone else. Yes 9/11 did happen but why, should we give into the scare tactics of these people? I think the proper thing to do would be to stop buying oil from them then they wouldn't have the money to support themselves. War is the most unnecessary action to take and can and SHOULD be prevented at all times.

    • 1 year ago
  • MilchMann
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      MilchMann  
    • NothingIsAbsoluteTruth:

      Not buying oil from them would be considered oppressing them, and oppressed people retaliate... recall the boston tea party. Not buying their oil is exactly the mentality of what we should not have done in the 80's. Afghanistan does not its self have any oil to speak of however. It has been argued that they are a strategic location for pipelines from the Caspian Sea, but those have been run through Iran for decades now... and the last thing anyone wants to do is provoke Iran. You cant subdue the beast by poking him with a stick.

      How did you redefine war? "I am all for helping people in need... One has to look at the definition of war..."
      Pinning those first 8 words onto anything about the definition of war is foolish. To revisit my drunkenly typed exert from On War. "the mistakes which come from kindness are the very worst."

    • 1 year ago
  • dabne
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      dabne  

    • As a man that has served in Afghanistan, I must say that this is a sad day for the local Afghans who are trying to help us out against the Taliban. They are already being targeted by Taliban who now have access to their names.

      God this is sad. This asshole manning has put his politics ahead of his countrymen.

    • 1 year ago
  • keanu101
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      keanu101  
    • dabne:

      you're helping the Afghans by killing their own people....you have blood on your hands and that's what manning leaked....

      THE TALIBANS HAVE NO TANKS, NO JETS, NO NAVY....What the hell are you destroying?

    • 1 year ago
  • pinkpanther
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      pinkpanther  
    • keanu101:

      Word. "THE TALIBANS HAVE NO TANKS, NO JETS, NO NAVY....What the hell are you destroying?"

      The largest, most-high-tech military in the world -- the US military -- is fighting these people for over 10 years now?? This is getting ridiculous. I think this war is a sinkhole and that we need to bring our war dollars home, along with all the troops, and private military contractors. We need to help this country torn by 30 years of war start to put itself back together.

      Our soldiers may be great, hardworking people, but they are not diplomats. We need to kickstart the diplomatic operations and curtail the combat asap.

    • 1 year ago
  • MilchMann
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      MilchMann  
    • dabne:

      I know man. If the leaks would have been something along the lines of denied air support or deals cut with Taliban commanders I could have seen it being a good thing, but this ass hole, I wish he would have been higher on the threat list is all I am saying.

    • 1 year ago
  • keanu101
  • Ragan
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      Ragan  

    • Finally we have an organization to expose the corruption and mercenary war started by the Nazi sympathizer George Bush, Grandson of Prescott Bush who planned a USA coup in 1933 and who supported Adolph Hitler. It is strange that so many kids died in WWII and again those Nazi Sympathizers gained while the youth of American continues to die for the Alien Government and their puppets.

    • 1 year ago
  • im1mjrpain
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      im1mjrpain  

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50zeMhrqS5s

      What result, if any, will the WikiLeaks release of documents have on the US war in Afghanistan? And, with the release of the WikiLeaks documents, what is the role of the mainstream media in the reporting on the war? Alex Jones is back on RT America to comment, opening up fresh debate and reviving questions that RT America has been asking and answering for some time.

    • 1 year ago
  • pinkpanther
  • Dmobile215
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      Dmobile215  

    • Well if any of you have an open mind consider the source we went to Iraq and no one had no weapons of mass destruction. We went after Osama Bin Laden he can not be found because they bombed everything over there and they are now just securing the Heroin crops to bring it over to the United States and pump the streets with drugs. Now you believe that there going to put this on wikileaks for telling information about the military dude this all falls into control our nation is full of tainted leaders in our nation.

      David Rockerfeller the JP Chase Morgan bank owners teaming up with the Obama administration wake up people we are getting snow balled to the 5th power. We need to start off by removing these corrupt government officials who run the media this is why we never hear about this in the news. The media is really wagging the dogs tail just like 9/11 I don't believe none of this "BS" because if Bin Laden did this why were they going after Saddam I will explain oil OIL OIL... all of these company's are part of the one world government can you see it happening there going to start controlling what people can post and say what I am telling all of you could get me as well in the hot seat. But I say we need to have a new system no more one world government it's already here this is why Obama is not stopping this war its causing us a debt that US can not afford think about it.

      Obama is not for America he is being controlled by the powers that be world bank leaders over 140 of them take your pick.

    • 1 year ago
  • William_Squalus
  • ReverandG
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      ReverandG  

    • I recall getting a letter from the US Army telling me they LOST a lap top with Millions of Vets personal information on it. Stolen from some morons car.
      You reap what you sow.

    • 1 year ago
  • 2helenahandbasket
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      2helenahandbasket  
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    • http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/30/taliban-says-it-will-target-names-exposed-by-...

      "Taliban Says It Will Target Names Exposed by WikiLeaks

      Militants were alerted to the leaked documents, which reveal details of informants, by news reports.

      The U.S. military has already accused WikiLeaks of having "the blood of some young soldier or that of an Afghan family" on its hands after leaking 92,000 classified documents. The Taliban has now confirmed it is poring through the documents, and intends to hunt down and punish any suspected spies named......"

      "The Taliban has recently pursued a policy of intimidating those who cooperate with the NATO forces in an attempt to undermine efforts at governance. Many local officials have been killed, and most have been threatened. The militant group is known to execute informants, reports Channel 4, by hanging, beheading, and shooting. It has even, on one recent occasion, strapped "two alleged traitors to explosives before detonating them in public." "

      Read the article. By releasing the information, Wikileaks, Manning and anyone else involved in this treasonous act should be held entirely responsible for any deaths to those who were working with our military. The Taliban will surely retaliate in a most vicious way.

    • 1 year ago
  • ReverandG
  • NaranjaCabeza
  • TomTucker
  • thetrimsmith
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      thetrimsmith  

    • Everyone likes to eat out, yet no one wants to see the kitchen. Hence the wall. Everyone picks at the other's post, and the meat grinder keeps grindin'. Any private esoteric talk is damaging, that is why it is private. What do people think War means?

    • 1 year ago
  • PleasingPanda
  • Einsam_Data_Old
  • dabne
  • EvilDoer
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      EvilDoer  

    • thank you wikileaks. and thank you Manning, you did a very brave thing, but are paying the consequences. hope you have no regrets.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • Nephwrack
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  
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    • Why do we 800,000 Americans with top secret clearances, and keeping documents they generate top secret. Many of such documents have nothing to do with secrecy!http://voices.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/2010/07/washington_reacts_to_top_secre.html

    • 1 year ago
  • ThoughtNu
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      ThoughtNu  
    • kennymotown:

      Yeah, I am often amazed at how little is leaked by lower echelon's exposure to sensitive information that is only sensitive to the principles ... not very important to the average citizen.( not like i would know)

    • 1 year ago
  • MilchMann
  • oppressed1
  • Nephwrack
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      Nephwrack  
    • oppressed1:

      you call yourself oppressed and yet you kowtow to the man? (spits) you make me sick. funny thing is, this endangers nobody. this is all after the fact, what , does the taliban have a time machine?

    • 1 year ago
  • maxjunk
  • Nephwrack
  • 2helenahandbasket
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      2helenahandbasket  
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    • Nephwrack:

      "this endangers nobody. this is all after the fact, what , does the taliban have a time machine?"

      Really? How about the fact that the leak namesd the names of those who were helping us? Do you think there will be no retaliation against them and their families? Think again.

      http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/30/taliban-says-it-will-target-names-exposed-by-...

      "Taliban Says It Will Target Names Exposed by WikiLeaks

      Militants were alerted to the leaked documents, which reveal details of informants, by news reports.
      The U.S. military has already accused WikiLeaks of having "the blood of some young soldier or that of an Afghan family" on its hands after leaking 92,000 classified documents. The Taliban has now confirmed it is poring through the documents, and intends to hunt down and punish any suspected spies named. "

      Good old Wikileaks.

    • 1 year ago
  • 2helenahandbasket
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      2helenahandbasket  
    • maxjunk:

      oppressed1 is dead on. The person who leaked this information is nothing but a traitor to his country and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. He has endangered the lives of fellow Americans.

    • 1 year ago
  • ReverandG
  • Nephwrack
  • Chopstick
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      Chopstick  
    • oppressed1:

      How can you commit treason if you are NOT an American citizen and breaking no laws that govern you? You must think that the Pentagon has a right to hunt the founder down and bring him to justice. Guess what? THEY CAN'T. They are flexing muscles with no bite to their bark. It is funny to watch.

    • 1 year ago
  • MilchMann
  • Nephwrack
  • Nephwrack
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      Nephwrack  

    • 3/3 Marines reports demonstration in Jalalabad City. TF THUNDER reported that the size of the demonstration is 250x pax. The crowd is becoming unruly and is throwing rocks, burning tires and vandalizing buildings. Gunshots were also fired. Gov Din Mohammad of Nangarhar is requesting a show of force. At 0606Z ANA reports that streets into city are blocked by fires. At 0609Z 3/3 requests AH-64s for show of force. At 0623Z, the crowd dispersed into two different groups. One group is located IVO 42S XD 3669 0879 the second group is IVO 42S XD 3698 0856. AT 0636Z JBAD PRT reports that DIA and UNAMA are secured ATT. The riot generated the following 9 line. A 13 y/o LN was struck by vehicle. PT is listed as urgent surgical; 1X ventilator is required. PT is suffering a head injury bleeding from ears and mouth, and left femur fracture. No enemy in area, PZ is at JBAD PRT LZ. CJTF76 approves medevac mission 05-11A at 0745Z. Medevac is canceled due to PTS Status. PT is being casvac''d to JBAD hospital. At 0810Z the UN JEMB security operations manager in Kabul requests the immediate evacuation of their JBAD provincial staff at 42S XD 3132 1114. The international staff consists of 3X PAX and 1X US citizen. ANA and private guards are outside the facility ATT, but they claim the situation is critical. Gunfire is reported, but it is not directed at the building. At 0824Z the governors office contacted the 3/3 Marines and reports that the situation is under control in JBAD. At 0828Z the UN officer rescinds his request for evacuation. At 0831Z Sabre 6 reports that local authorities are dealing with fires IVO 42S XD 3202 as the ANA/ANP secure the area. At 0841Z ODB reports that the governors house, PK consulate, and several other GOA buildings are being burned. They also report that this is the first day of a planned 2-day riot. As of 0800z it was reported that all NGOs were accounted for and evacuated from Jalalabad.

    • 1 year ago
  • Nephwrack
  • kennymotown
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  • ThoughtNu
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