Community | July 30, 2010 | 21 comments

Rand Paul Opens Mouth, Puts Coal-Covered Foot In mouth!

source: http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/rand-paul-opens-mouth-puts-coal-covered-foo

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And Rand Paul was supposed to be a great Tea Party candidate?
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21 comments // Rand Paul Opens Mouth, Puts Coal-Covered Foot In mouth!

  • Einsam_Data_Old
  • Vince_Escamilla_III
  • MOK
  • treewolf39
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      treewolf39  

    • He says it is not JUST me pandering to coal I'm from the flat earth club that can do whatever the fuck we want with what we own. No mention of the polluted streams and ground water from toxic mineral run-off.

    • 1 year ago
  • Stoneyroad
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      Stoneyroad  

    • As i read i thought he was going to suggest calling it "the flat-top" method.
      but wow, if you own the property you should be free to remove a mountain?
      Sure, the next owner can always pile up rocks & dirt. Good as new

      P.S. Scottyt & Shanklinmike are gonna be so mad at you kenny.
      expect some phantom down votes.

    • 1 year ago
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  
    • Stoneyroad:

      But in the mean time I'll give you two thumbs up! Scottyt and I get along pretty good Shanklin never gets along. That's OK I like the discussion as long as it remains civil. I think it's great when people are excited about a third party heaven knows the country needs about 10 different party's and a system that gives them seats by the numbers they represent. Hell the more the merrier, but for now I will and others too need to make that happen from the local end of it. I've got a fight nationally with the GOP wherever I can and Rand Paul would be bad for Kentucky.

    • 1 year ago
  • MOK
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      MOK  

    • Although I ultimately disagree with him, I don't think his statements were that bad. In any developed, urban/sub-urban area, this is exactly what would happen anyways.

      ...the problem, really, is proposing to continue expanding outward instead of upward, IMO. Sprawl is short-sighted.

      But I think you guys are over-blowing his words here, even if your disagreement is valid.

      I'm saying this as a through-and-through Progressive, so don't assume I'm just trolling, please. Just pointing out one of the many little incidents where even we, on the left, stoke the partisan fire. It's not just them doing it.

    • 1 year ago
  • cztheday
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      cztheday  

    • Sigh. You know you have serious issues when you are known as "the crazy one" in the Rand family...

      "The top ends up flatter, but we're not talking about Mount Everest. We're talking about these little knobby hills that are everywhere out here. And I've seen the reclaimed lands. One of them is 800 acres, with a sports complex on it, elk roaming, covered in grass."

      This is one of Rand's interesting statements in the interview Kenny is talking about -- the topic being coal mining via mountaintop removal.

      I live in elk country. If you have never seen one, elk are generally quite large. They tend to occupy that niche between between deer and moose...leaning strongly to the moose side. Except for the half-tamed elk in Yellowstone park, the herds like a LOT of space. Since they have little trouble kicking and gouging the hell out of a human being, we tend to give it to them.

      So I am having a little trouble imagining a herd of elk on 800 acres, let alone those same elk sharing it with a sports complex. I am guessing he means one of those abominations where people can pay a fee to shoot a beautiful animal that is a virtual sitting duck in a pen.

    • 1 year ago
  • kennymotown
  • vizzzzzance
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      vizzzzzance  
    • cztheday:

      I live in the community he is referring to. We have a lot of elk and yes they do roam in the same area as our sportsplex. If any of you who have such strong opinions on these things had ever actually been to a reclaimed mine site you may not be so quick to judge.

    • 1 year ago
  • cztheday
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      cztheday  
    • vizzzzzance:

      OK, you have my attention. I am from Montana -- coal central in the western half of the country. So yes, I have been to reclaimed mine sites. Fortunately, most of our mines are in the far eastern part of the state. Quite unlike the central and western parts insofar as the East is flat and semiarid. So reclamation is not nearly as difficult as it is in other locations. But then most of the truly awful problems we have experienced from mining operations has more to do with runoff, fishkill, and the poisoning of rivers. Those are not small problems in a state in which tourism is the second largest economic sector and one our principle marketing points is the untainted quality of our rivers and lakes.

      But of course, the ugliest hole in Montana is right in the middle of the community of Butte. Admittedly it was a copper mine, not a coal mine, but the bottom of the massive hole (so large it is difficult to describe...think roughly the size of a domed sports arena...including the parking lots...and a lot deeper than the dome is high. There are a couple of ongoing problems at that mine, despite the fact that it was shut down some time ago. The first is that there is a pool of thousands of gallons of toxic water residing at the bottom. Migratory birds see it from the air, think "lake" and land in it...and die by the hundreds.

      The second problem is that careful records of the underground tunneling activities were not kept. The way some of those tunnels have been discovered is when the soil erodes under one of the houses in town, and the house collapses into a big hole..which chills the dinner conversation considerably. Similarly there are many documented and even a few filmed cases of cars suddenly disappearing as the street beneath them collapses into one of these shafts.

    • 1 year ago
  • littlwarrior
  • tommic
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      tommic  

    • Libertarians, less government involvement, just lets tear up the mountains and no one will miss them. I am so sick of listening to stupid people, Ron Paul and his son Rand ought to just dissappear just like the moutaintops. Coal and Oil kill you slowly, poison the air, the water and only morons defend them

    • 1 year ago
  • derk
  • kennymotown
  • Idoknow19
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      Idoknow19  

    • In that same Details interview he hints that the coal mine explosion of a few months ago wasn't really an accident, but a government conspiracy to promote more regulation.

      "A dangerously insane human being," to quote Family Guy's Tom Tucker.

    • 1 year ago
  • kennymotown
  • kennymotown
  • dreamsenvoy
  • unimatrix0
  • kennymotown
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