The Hidden Tragedy of the CIA's Experiments on Children | t r u t h o u t
source: http://www.truth-out.org/the-hidden-tragedy-cias-experiments-children62208
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Mary is only five years old. She sits on a small, straight-backed chair, moving her legs back and forth, humming the same four notes over and over and over. Her head, framed in a tangled mass of golden curls, moves up and down with each note. For the first three years of her life, Mary was thought to be a mostly normal child. Then, after she began behaving oddly, she had been handed off to a foster family. Her father and
About the same time Dr. Bender was conducting her electroshock experiments, she was also widely experimenting on autistic and schizophrenic children with what she termed other "treatment endeavors." These included use of a wide array of psycho-pharmaceutical agents, several provided to her by the Sandoz Chemical Co. in Basel, Switzerland, as well as Metrazol, sub-shock insulin therapy, amphetamines and anticonvulsants. Metrazol was a trade name for pentylenetetrazol, a drug used as a circulatory and respiratory stimulant. High doses cause convulsions, as discovered in 1934 by the Hungarian-American neurologist and psychiatrist Ladislas J. Meduna.
Metrazol had been used in convulsive therapy, but was never considered to be effective, and side effects such as seizures were difficult to avoid. The medical records of several patients who were confined at Vermont State Hospital, a public mental facility, reveal that Metrazol was administered to them by CIA contractor Dr. Robert Hyde on numerous occasions in order "to address overly aggressive behavior." One of these patients, Karen Wetmore, received the drug on a number of occasions for no discernible medical reason. During the same ten-year period in which Metrazol was used by the Vermont State Hospital, patient deaths skyrocketed. In 1982, the FDA revoked its approval of Metrazol.
Here it should be noted that, during the cold war years, CIA and Army Counter-Intelligence Corps (CIC) interrogators, working as part of projects Bluebird and Artichoke, sometimes injected large amounts of Metrazol into selected enemy or Communist agents for the purposes of severely frightening other suspected agents, by forcing them to observe the procedure. The almost immediate effects of Metrazol are shocking for many to witness: subjects will shake violently, twisting and turning. They typically arch, jerk and contort their bodies and grimace in pain. With Metrazol, as with electroshock, bone fractures - including broken necks and backs - and joint dislocations are not uncommon, unless strong sedatives are administered beforehand.
A November 1936 Time mag. article seriously questioned the benefits of Metrazol, citing "irreversible shock" as a "great danger." The article described a typical Metrazol injection as such: "A patient receives no food for four or five hours. Then about five cubic centimeters of the drug [Metrazol] are injected into his veins. In about half-a-minute he coughs, casts terrified glances around the room, twitches violently, utters a horse wail, freezes into rigidity with his mouth wide open, arms and legs stiff as boards. Then he goes into convulsions. In one or two minutes the convulsions are over and he gradually passes into a coma, which lasts about an hour. After a series of shocks, his mind may be swept clean of delusions.... A patient is seldom given more than 20 injections and if no improvement is noted after ten treatments, he is usually given up as hopeless."
The Army, the CIA and Metrazol | This is just important sections go read whole thing!
Army CIC interrogators working with the CIA at prisoner of war camps and safe house locations in post-war Germany on occasion used Metrazol, morphine, heroin and LSD on incarcerated subjects. According to former CIC officer Miles Hunt, several "safe houses and holding areas outside of Frankfurt near Oberursel" - a former Nazi interrogation center taken over by the US - were operated by a "special unit run by Capt. Malcolm S. Hilty, Maj. Mose Hart and Capt. Herbert Sensenig.
Eventually, CIC interrogators working in Germany would be assisted in their use of interrogation drugs by several "former" Nazi scientists recruited by the CIA and US State Department as part of Project Paperclip. By early 1952, the CIC's Rough Boys would routinely use Metrazol during interrogations, as well as LSD, mescaline and conventional electroshock units.
Metrazol-like drugs are still used in interrogations today. According to reports from several former noncommissioned Army officers, who served on rendition-related security details in Turkey, Pakistan and Romania, drugs that produce effects quite similar to Metrazol are still used in 2010 by the Pentagon and CIA on enemy combatants and rendered subjects held at the many "black sites" maintained across the globe. Observed one former officer recently, "They would twist up like a pretzel, in unbelievable shapes and jerk and shake like crazy, their eyes nearly popping out of their heads."
In 2008, at the behest of US Sens. Carl Levin, Joe Biden and Chuck Hagel and in reaction to a March 2008 article in The Washington Post, the Pentagon initiated an Inspector General Report on the use of "mind-altering substances by DoD [Department of Defense] Personnel during Interrogations of Detainees and/or Prisoners Captured during the War on Terror." It is not known if the investigation has been completed. Among the more famous recent cases of the use of drugs upon prisoners concerns one-time alleged "enemy combatant" Jose Padilla, who had originally been accused of wanting to set off a "dirty bomb."
The government has gone to great efforts to keep the public uninformed as regards use of drugs on prisoners. In an article by Carol Rosenberg for McClatchy News in July 2010, Rosenberg reported that, when covering the Guantanamo military commissions trials, when the question of "what psychotropic drugs were given another accused 9/11 conspirator, Ramzi bin al Shibh, the courtroom censor hits a white noise button so reporters viewing from a glass booth can't hear the names of the drugs. Under current Navy instructions for the use of human subjects in research, the undersecretary of the Navy is described as the authority in charge of research concerning "consciousness-altering drugs or mind-control techniques," while at the same time is also responsible for "inherently controversial topics" that might attract media interest or "challenge by interest groups."
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2helenahandbasket
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I'd like more information. Is this something that happened 60 years ago, like the experiments Germany did on the Jews, or is this article claiming that in today's time the CIA is doing this to children. If the answer is they're doing it today, I don't believe it.
As for using mind altering drugs on some terrorists who planned to kill us, I don't care. There are folks all over this country who use mind altering drugs regularly.
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2helenahandbasket
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Laurel_Pearse
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My son has Downe Syndrome and has been mistreated by the public school system where i dare not try to put him in public school anymore = he has been hit, ridiculed by teachers, blamed for things he did not do, all in all just given no education and treated like crap even though his behavior is better than the average child. There is so much discrimination going on in the public schools where I live I have basically given up even though I have taken them to court and fought and fought. Nothing has changed very much because when teachers have mistreated him they are backed up by the school system and so called human rights has backed up the public school's behavior so what has changed for the mentally handicapped= NOTHING! They still abuse these children if they think they can get away with it and in my son's case they have gotten away with it even though I really tried to stop it.
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Laurel_Pearse
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artemis6
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Laurel_Pearse:
That is vary sad .
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artemis6
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Omnomynous
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You can say whatever you want to about which group is most discriminated against, but I'm absolutely certain of those groups treated poorly with the least amount of rights, the worst treated would have to be the mentally ill.
Whether it's someone in the states' hospital, someone in an ALF (assisted living facility/"group home"), or just your crazy cousin they get done like SHIT.
Yeah the CIA has done and will continue to do totally messed up things, but there is a big segment of the population that it's still socially acceptable to do wrong; the mentally ill.
Have you seen the commercials for drugs like Abilify: possible side effects include "sudden death"....
I mean what WTF? really it's reprehensible how we treat them, worse than how we treat convicted felons, at least they can lead a decent life after their time is served.
Literally you can kill or rape someone and someday be tolerated in society, but the stigma that goes along with mental illness tends to last a lifetime. Considering the fact that 80% of all humans will personally face some form of "mental illness" at some point in their life, it just doesn't seem right.
Yeah depression isn't usually all that held against someone it's the principal, you could have a nervous breakdown, come unglued for a little while, put it all back together but by then your reputation is ruined.
Once someone is labeled with anything slightly beyond depression, they might as well be a guinea pig for which ever doctor and pharmaceutical company get the benefit of profiting from their misfortune. Still to this day.
And "Nurse Scratchit" from One flew Over etc., doesn't have shit on how fucked up some of those "health care professionals" can be.
(The movie "Chattahoochee" is probably still more accurate)
Want to lose your faith in humanity?, work at the average "group home" for just a few months. Watch how these disabled people are "pimped" for government money, living like inmates, while the owners of the group home live like kings.
More sad, quite a few people who were once thought to be severely mentally ill with a lifetime prognosis, have made full recoveries and have somehow struggled on to build productive lives. Think of how many got over medicated, and couldn't even detoxify enough to display their sanity, stuck still wandering the halls of some facility as sane as anyone else, with little to no chance of anyone ever knowing or caring.
(Sorry for the rant you spend enough time being and/or working with the mentally ill, and seeing what they go through you kinda take it personal)
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Omnomynous
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toyotabedzrock
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Omnomynous:
"Yeah the CIA has done and will continue to do totally messed up things, but there is a big segment of the population that it's still socially acceptable to do wrong; the mentally ill."
We have to be determined to change this, if we accept it then we are just lazy and it will never stop.
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toyotabedzrock
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Steve_McFarland
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I dn't know much, but I know somethings. Remember the movie one flew over the coco's nest? Well, I was married to a psychiatric nurse for the criminally insane. I know a lot. Frontal parts of human brains are still cut out. Shock therapy is still done. Patients are thrown in hot showers.
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Steve_McFarland
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artemis6
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Steve_McFarland:
I had thought they were illegal ....
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artemis6
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Laurel_Pearse
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Steve_McFarland:
Hi this is so true because I was threatened with electo shock therapy when I was advocating for a friend institutionalized with schizophrenia in the 80's that was from Essondale in Port Coquitlam B.C. Canada. I literally stood up against the doctor and told him to grab his stuff and he ran with me off the property where I admitted him into a regular hospital where he got the lithium which was all he needed. I was always sticking up for him as I witnessed them use him as a guineau pig and was framed by the mental health doctor I never met and a hospital social worker where they wrote a completely false history about me on a file concerning my capacity as a parent they claimed I was very dangerous and personality disordered yet I was not mentally ill. I caught them at this and threatened to sue them for slander but of course the whole system is hiding them as they have disappeared off the map the usual government ploys when they get caught redhanded in their diery deeds. I have never been am mental health patient nor had any such problems yet the system tried to frame me more than once for sticking up for this guy. They call having the guts to tell them their business a personality disorder.The whole mess hasn't changed that much. In the 60's my Mother admitted herself into this same institution mentioned above for depression after the death of my Father and they shocked her brains out. I saw a woman with a full sound mind who gave me a picture of a cat once when I was visiting my Mother there and the next day I saw her a complete vegetable, I still have that card.
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Laurel_Pearse
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Steve_McFarland:
well in some cases electroshock was used in psychiatric facilities because it showed significant advances in catatonic patients because a few days after the treatment the patients would be aware and moving about. but im not tryin to make excuses for these terrible crimes
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JonnyPalmdale
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toyotabedzrock
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JonnyPalmdale:
Yeah they might move if you crack them with a baseball bat too, but that isn't considered a valid treatment, yet.
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toyotabedzrock
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Laurel_Pearse
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JonnyPalmdale:
yes this is true but for some reason in the early sixties they were using electroshck therapy on people who were depressed for legitimate reasons like mad scietists
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Laurel_Pearse
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alexandrek [removed]
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toyotabedzrock
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Einsam_Data_Old:
Why would you post that except to distract attention from the topic itself?
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toyotabedzrock
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KSirys
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No matter what... we will never know the full truth behind the CIA and their experiment... this is just another reason for countries to hate us even more...
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KSirys
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Incredulous
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KSirys:
not to mention the national self-hatred taking root...
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Incredulous
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toyotabedzrock
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Incredulous:
We need Obama to understand that without prosecutions of everyone involved in this for war crimes, this country and by extension his daughters future is at extreme risk.
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toyotabedzrock
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KSirys:
So true, KSirys.
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MotherForTruth
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MotherForTruth
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Incredulous:
I absolutely agree, Incredulous.
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MotherForTruth
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SpencerTreeGarden
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If this is true i have no idea why we can't ban together and take things into our own hands.
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SpencerTreeGarden
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H2O_4U
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only in America
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H2O_4U
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EthicalVegan
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H2O_4U:
I doubt it... sadly.
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EthicalVegan
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0roburos
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Truth is often a-lot more scary than fiction..
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0roburos
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MotherForTruth
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0roburos:
Agreed.
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MotherForTruth
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artemis6
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My first impulse is to go right in to denial . Some twisted people enjoy torturing others . We need to identify these people and not allow them free reign .
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artemis6
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artemis6:
i'd say identify and imprison.
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Nephwrack
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s_peak
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artemis6:
I couldn't agree more.
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s_peak
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artemis6
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Nephwrack:
Absolutely .
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artemis6
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PleasingPanda
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I have been attempting to tell people about this for years, but they always shoot me down as some kind of liberal minded conspirator. In the information age, now appear the horsemen of America's past, reports brought to the surface hidden by years of dust that prove how dishonest we have been in our pursuits. To merely state that "the end justifies the means" is one thing, but what if your child had been tortured, molested, or killed?
People advocate monstrous practices without comprehending what they mean for those who carry them out and the victims. What is the point in executing a man for killing a hundred children if we let another man go who did the same, just because he worked for the government while he murdered innocent kids? Someone who murders repeatedly, is what many call and secretly aspire to be in America, a serial killer.
Justice is made to appear more blind to me each and every single day. Though it is only blind to the idea of itself, so it stops to lift up its' blindfold now and again to sweep some atrocious matters underneath the rug until the criminals responsible for them can make their way quietly to the grave without anyone knowing the wiser.
Terror to me, is not some Eastern Man tying his shoes on the subway or a mosque being built in my neighborhood, but ending up in one of these torture chambers without anyone to help me, only the cruel eyes of my torturers watching as I slip further and further into the recesses of my own mind to escape them, losing all that makes me human, and them losing all that makes them human.
We have come so far to still rely on the barbaric tortures of the past to carve the out our futures. Perhaps, not even our futures, but the futures of a particular regime which we dare not confront in this country just as tyrannical as any dictator who has ever lived. Right and Left, four years a term, I would see no difference in each candidate if I were certain they were all Klu Klux Klan, and likewise as they advocate torture and misuse government power to meet their own ends rather than the peoples' I see no difference in them all as being tyrants.
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PleasingPanda
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Incredulous
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PleasingPanda:
Head Full of Doubt/Road Full of Promise:
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Incredulous
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MotherForTruth
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Sick. how is this different from the experiments nazis performed? They should prove the benefits by experimenting on their own body first.
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MotherForTruth
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alexandrek:
Unfortunately no nation and no regime is immune of cruelty in the name of "benefits to the society".
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BullDogg
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It is a dirty business, but sometimes the ends justify the means. I think "out of sight, out of mind" is the way to go when it comes to the intelligence community. I think I feel safer assuming that the CIA tortures people, than to know they don't torture anymore. As for the unwilling human guinea pigs--those "scientists" should be tortured themselves!
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BullDogg
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Incredulous
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BullDogg:
ummm...these were children they were torturing...NO! out of sight, out of mind won't work for me and the ends will NEVER justify the means. God, is there no justice or mercy left in this world?
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Incredulous
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Incredulous:
I'm on your side +^'d
@Bull *shakes head* - 1 year ago
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BullDogg
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Incredulous:
Did you read the story? They tortured lots of people-- the "unwilling guinea pigs" were in reference to the children. Torture is a medieval practice, no one will argue that. But I feel safer assuming that Jack Bower is out there banging a few heads, inserting a syringe there... Or do you watch 24 and totally despise the means they use to achieve their goals?
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BullDogg
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Incredulous
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BullDogg:
I don't watch 24, I read the story, and I define integrity as doing the right thing, in spite of what anyone else may or may not be doing. Torture is wrong, in all its deviant forms.
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Incredulous
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BullDogg:
WOW... I've never actually heard anyone reference 24 in a serious way. I thought it was a joke liberals told about how conservatives think. I certainly wouldn't have thought someone who treated the exploits of a fox action show like a counter-terror orientation video would be smart enough to read, much less use the internet. Astounding.
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BullDogg:
There are ALWAYS unwilling innocent people who are hurt.
People who think this is ok, should be locked up!
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toyotabedzrock
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Incredulous:
So how do you propose "we" deal with unwilling subjects when lives are on the line and time is running out? At this stage in history, and assumingly since the beginning of time, violence has always been the answer. I agree that it is the wrong answer, but unfortunately, we haven't yet evolved into a peaceful human race. If you were president, how would you proceed? Remember that many great minds have ruled this country and so far our presidents have chosen to use any means necessary to keep us safe(r). Truman, glad I wasn't him, decided to drop a nuclear bomb on Japan, not once, but twice, in a desperate attempt to end the second world war.
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BullDogg
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wellhunggimp:
I actually don't watch the show. I was thinking of a simple way to get everyone to picture a real life scenareo where torture happens and what actions could have been used instead. So why don't you prove to me how well you think and let me know how our government should act in these situations without laying a hand on the suspect?
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BullDogg
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BullDogg:
Re-read my post and you'll see that I never mention if you watch 24 because that's not the point. The point was you referenced it as "a real life scenario where torture happens and what actions could have been used instead."
Were I in charge I'd use the professional intelligence sources at my disposal to find what I need to know. Just because Jack Bower tortures and gets the "bad guys" to give up their secrets doesn't mean a real person will. What if they tell you a plausible lie? Time runs out while you run down bs given to you by someone who you forced to tell you something, you even gave him good reason to be upset with you.
Not everyone's mind is gonna go into bitch-mode when you torture them.
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wellhunggimp
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wellhunggimp:
this has nothing to do with any t.v. show I do not know this t,v, show but many shows are based upon reality where else would they get their material
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Laurel_Pearse
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BullDogg:
no t.v. this is what happened in my life!
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Laurel_Pearse
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Incredulous
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Fuck this country, we are more evil than we know.
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Incredulous:
you have no idea.. behavioral analysis in the air Force.. look it up
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0roburos:
yeah, and the thing is, human beings are less predictable than what they really want to work with, so those Bayesian net-works are being fine tuned for future robotic warfighters....you gotta love the way they've recruited the best and brightest minds from the top universities in the nation, and most of the minds working on this shit are too self absorbed to ask themselves what it's really being used for.
they ain't growin pretty flowers.... - 1 year ago
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Incredulous
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Incredulous:
Sad. Very sad but true.
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MotherForTruth
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Stephanie_Rendon
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jeez, i've been living under a rock.
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ThoughtNu
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hmn... someone want to keep me quiet?
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ThoughtNu
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Sparky2U
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In the 1950's my old man worked at the Los Alamos National Labs.
I had a little brother who was born with multiple defects and lived only a very short time. They wanted his body for study; when I tried to find his grave site a few years ago it did not exist. The church had no record of it. Plenty of unanswered questions there.
Nothing surprises me any more. - 1 year ago
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Sparky2U
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Deltone
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Nice one brah
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Deltone
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toyotabedzrock
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This is not the entire article, I cut out some of the sections I found important and pertinent.
Everyone should go read the ENTIRE article either way!
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toyotabedzrock
