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Scientists stunned as bee populations continue to decline

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Scientists remain stymied as honeybees in the United States and across the world continue to die in large numbers.

Lately there seems to be a lot of talk about bees, honey bees in particular. In recent years, there has been a drastic and mysterious die-off of honey bee colonies. Although not unusual in the bee business, this latest decline in populations has many people talking.

Although there is an increasing demand for pollination services, the number of honey bee colonies has dropped to about 2.5 million from more than 4 million in the 1970′s. There are several reasons as to why this may be happening: loss of habitat, pesticide use, unspecified fungal diseases or mite infestations.

Scientists now believe that much of the decline is due to Colony Collapse Disorder, or CCD, which refers to the unexplained disappearance and dying off of honey bee colonies. Little is known about CCD, and that has many beekeepers, farmers and the general public worried.

“There are a lot of beekeepers who are in trouble” said David Mendes, president of the American Beekeeping Federation. “Under normal condition you have 10 percent winter losses … this year there are 30, 40 to 50 percent losses.”

For many years, beekeepers have been plagued by colony collapse disorder, in which formerly healthy bees abruptly vanish from their hives. The number of beehives in the United States dropped 32 percent in 2007, another 36 percent in 2008 and still another 29 percent in 2009.

A number of explanations for the phenomenon have been suggested, including diseases, parasites, malnutrition, but toxic chemicals are emerging as a major concern among beekeepers.

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43 comments // Scientists stunned as bee populations continue to decline

  • Chris_Robins
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      Chris_Robins  
    • like how many years ago did they start to put pesticides on feilds to make it easier for for things to grow they thought ntohing of the bees there is no long term effect they prolly thought well here we are a long time away the long term effect is finally showing much like ciggarettes 75 years later and marijuanna 75 years from now and alcohol which noone cares about but soon we will face food shortages because we wont have any Vegetables mother nature is gonna give up on us all soon enough and just make our Air really toxic and nomatter whowe are were all gonna suffer ..... or maby its the changing Climate thats really the Culprit here and we will find out ina few dozen years from now that were were all wrong and then we all dide well the [planet resets its self and lets the species that grow in mass quantities start over again well man has to start slowely come on people get to real life its over just sit and think about it

    • 1 year ago
  • drewsuf721
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      drewsuf721  
    • I've heard there is a rise in CCD for bee colonies near cell towers. Anyone know of research looking at cell phones interacting with the bees? I think they mentioned it on a show about bees I saw a while back.

    • 1 year ago
  • ampersand
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      ampersand  
    • drewsuf721:

      That research had been done and done again both here and in Europe. Just do a few minutes research on the web and you can read the articles to whatever depth or length you wish.

    • 1 year ago
  • drewsuf721
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      drewsuf721  
    • ampersand:

      Aye, it makes me cringe to read 'research' and 'internet' in the same sentence. I found a few studies through google scholar, links to published papers, but there wasn't a whole lot of data presented.
      Know of any reliable study in particular?

    • 1 year ago
  • ampersand
  • unclepete813
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      unclepete813  
    • The bees is just a sign of what is coming real soon, Death to all parasites and cancer on this planet, when the ones who fertilize the earth is poison which is the Bee and the food & water is posion. Its time to get rid of the cancer who have destroyed the planet and is continue to destroy the planet with its greed wars and manipulation.

    • 1 year ago
  • RaceBannon
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      RaceBannon  
    • in my future life i live in a dense modern community of geothermal powered shacks with my swedish counterpart somewhere in Scandinavia. All day we'd lay around painting, playing music or just playing in general. We'd have vineyards, apricot trees, wheat, maybe a few milk cows, and most importantly we all raise bees. Hopefully that last part is around by the time I can realize that future.

    • 1 year ago
  • ampersand
    • +3
      ampersand  
    • RaceBannon:

      Race, when you have that little plot in hand, let me know, I'll contribute all the architectural and energy system consulting for free.
      One very probable future of our tattered planet is a scatter of small sustainable communities, somewhat like the monastery system in the "Dark Ages" of medieval Europe,preserving the last thin threads of civilization.
      Hopefully this time, without the virus of superstition and religion that prohibits scientific inquiry.

    • 1 year ago
  • RaceBannon
    • +1
      RaceBannon  
    • ampersand:

      Sounds like a grand idea. I'd hate to think society is actually going to hell but from what I see going on our ways are eventually going to catch up with us with a much overdue reality check for humanity. If some of us are going to contribute to a better society as stewards of civilization then I'd be glad to help create a place for them to live.

    • 1 year ago
  • ampersand
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      ampersand  
    • For what it's worth, I think the predominate factor in CCD is exposure to pesticides and herbicides.
      Add that to overcrowding, transport a 1000 miles on the back of trucks over and over again to new sites constantly, and a few other commercial tortures, and you have European honey bees dying in commercial hives.
      The only surprise is that they lasted this long without massive problems emerging earlier.

    • 1 year ago
  • s_peak
    • +4
      s_peak  
    • REALLY?! They're STUNNED?!

      Let me blow your fucking minds then. It's the pesticides. No doubt about it whatsoever. They did some bee necropsies a little while back to try and figure out the cause of CCD. Guess what they found? Over 100 different types of pesticide inside bees.

      It's not that complicated. They spray INSECT KILLERS on plants and then when the bees start to die they scratch their heads. What a bunch of assholes. Our food industry is so corrupt it's sickening.

      Don't shop at safeway, people. I say it all the damn time. Get food from local (or homegrown) sources ONLY! Don't support these industries. Without the bees, our food supply will dwindle very rapidly.

    • 1 year ago
  • JanforGore
  • Demmie
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      Demmie  
    • One reason that seems to be overlooked- The American "brainwashing" to have perfectly manicured lawns,killing off clover,dandelions,many wildflowers that have been classified as "weeds" by big corporations like Monsanto,to sell more chemical sprays..so called "Lawn care Services" that use toxic chemicals to kill off these pesky "weeds" that many bees pollinate and make honey from. Clover honey is Yummy!
      The bees are also exposed to these Toxins!
      While also contaminating soil,groundwater and causing illnesses,contributing to learning disorders (like ADD) in children & creating illnesses and possible deaths for domestic animals(pets) .
      Stop poisoning Your Lawns/gardens and other green spaces where clover & other wild flowers grow!!

    • 1 year ago
  • idealist
  • Demmie
  • JanforGore
  • csmonut
  • mexicanfoodstamp
  • EmperorThan
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      EmperorThan  
    • One died in my room the other day that's for sure.

      It was PISSED for no reason (as always) and it was trying to get outside but wouldn't move directly to it's right to the big open window instead opting to 'Rage' all over my closed window frame. So I attempted to push it to the open window RIGHT next to it, but it didn't budge, it kept going straight back to the closed window and finally I was like "Dude you're retarded, sorry you have to die." so I killed it.

    • 1 year ago
  • s_peak
  • EmperorThan
  • Incredulous
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      Incredulous  
    • actually, some of what I've read suggests that the expression of disease is somewhat similar to AIDS, their immune systems having been so severely compromised that they have fallen prey to a host of diseases that are wiping them out. Not unlike human disease, there are a variety of factors contributing to the defeat of their immune systems.

      But hey, the show must go on, right Monsanto?

      Probably not unrelated, bats too are facing regional extinction:

      http://www.ucsc.edu/news_events/text.asp?pid=3957

    • 1 year ago
  • ampersand
    • +4
      ampersand  
    • Incredulous:

      Yours is the most accurate summation so far here. All the research does point to a combination of factors.
      Of course, as always, when you look down the chain at the factors, and with few exceptions, most of them are caused by us and our prevalent greedy, short-sighted, and toxic ways of beating the living crap out of the planet and everything on it.

    • 1 year ago
  • s_peak
    • +1
      s_peak  
    • Incredulous:

      I said it before... but I'll go all "broken record on you" anyway.

      Pesticides are the actual cause for this, though. No doubt about it. Pesticides. Pesticides. Pesticides!

    • 1 year ago
  • csmonut
  • hunzedog
  • ampersand
    • +4
      ampersand  
    • Just want to make sure folks reading this make the distinction between the commercial hives of European honey bees native California bees.
      The wild California native bees are doing fine.
      The European honey bees used in commercial agriculture are the ones subject to colony collapse disorder.
      Native bees by the way, are shy, not prone to attack, and far more efficient than
      European honey bees in pollination of plants.
      The tremendous lack of efficiency of the European honey bee is made up for by having much larger mass colonies of them to pollinate commercial fields.
      By the way this story has been posted and re-posted in various versions over the last three years. This particular article is a rather scanty re-hash. There are more in depth articles that discuss the complex factors that are emerging as the causes of CCD and cite current studies and research.

    • 1 year ago
  • csmonut
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      csmonut  
    • ampersand:

      I live in the sticks in southern Nevada. Four years ago I had bees all over. I provide water for all of the rabbits, birds, turtles, coyotes, etc. plus I have prickly pear and beaver tail cactus which get great blooms on them.
      Bees were every where around my place in the morning and evenings, slurping up water, and checking out the cactus or whatever else was blooming.
      They were very small, so I am guessing they were wild.
      The last three years I have seen the bee population wither. This year I haven't seen but one bee. (no kidding)
      I use no type of herbicides, pesticides or poisons around my place. I can't speak for people who may live within a mile or two of me, but my near neighbors don't use any that I am aware of.
      Finally getting to my point here. I think the wild bee population is also suffering, for all of the reasons mentioned on this thread, because they have disappeared from my place.
      This is just my observation.

    • 1 year ago
  • ampersand
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      ampersand  
    • csmonut:

      Very interesting comment, csmonut. I'd like to hear more about this. Can you ask around about this in your area, a bit more? I have some contacts in the park areas in the southern California desert I will check with tomorrow.
      By the way, are you in, or near, Nye County?

    • 1 year ago
  • csmonut
  • ampersand
    • +1
      ampersand  
    • csmonut:

      What I've heard this morning from naturalist folks in the southern California desert parks is that the African bees (famously, "killer bees") moving up from Mexico have now interbreed with the local native bees. That's resulted, as predicted, in the hybrid "killer bee" strain becoming less aggressive. They don't report any drop in bee native or interbred bee numbers.
      The reason I asked about Nye County, Nevada was that I was familiar with it being the site of US nuclear underground tests resumed unilaterally under the Reagan Administration.
      My fond memories of Nye County are of being arrested there with Martin Sheen at the anti-nuclear test resumption protests. The locals I met there were really nice people.

    • 1 year ago
  • csmonut
    • +1
      csmonut  
    • ampersand:

      I had a video of one of the protests of the test site on Current. But I guess they pulled videos, because I can't find it.
      It was a protest for the Native American land that had been taken years ago for the test site. And Martin Sheen was there and was arrested, along with a bunch of other people.
      A few years ago I read a short article on the water sample wells that dot the edge of the test site. Radioactive material is drifting toward the underground Amargosa river.
      Of course I haven't seen a report since.
      It is good news about wild bees, though I do wish they would reappear here ay my place. Maybe next year when I have more flowering plants.

    • 1 year ago
  • timetide
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      timetide  
    • I'm going with mass amounts of inbreeding. Over the past three decades we've been breeding and rebreeding the same bees, in effect breeding "sister" and "brother" and "father" and "mother" bees. This creates situations of genetic bad stuff looming up in each bee farm, because we can all agree that much inbreeding is not good for any species. Some farms reach out and cross breed, but not enough. Thus the slow collapse of bees, and considering their role in the worlds ecology a threat to us.

    • 1 year ago
  • mindcruzer
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      mindcruzer  
    • timetide:

      But even more so it would greatly reduce genetic variability. With that being the case, any selective pressure that comes along could completely wipe out a population. Not only is this true in theory, but has been observed in nature many times, generally when a population becomes isolated due to human activity. This would be a more likely cause than build up of mutations over generations. Of course that is assuming inbreeding is the problem.

    • 1 year ago
  • bailey78
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      bailey78  
    • Well lets see the very first thing most folks do when they find a hive in an old house or tree or some place that they build their home is to scream KILLER BEES then kill them. Then we have all kinds of folks poisoning everything just randomly That could be part of the problem.

    • 1 year ago
  • Omnomynous
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      Omnomynous  
    • When California almond farmers contract bee keepers and their bees from as far away as Georgia every year, it's long past time to re-think things.

    • 1 year ago
  • 02yamahaR1
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      02yamahaR1  
    • havent any of you seen the "bee movie," the sequence of events that occur when honey is diminished...yah, we need to be breeding these bees.

    • 1 year ago
  • Eddie_Miller
  • Robotic091
  • EclecticBadger
  • Demmie
    • +1
      Demmie  
    • EclecticBadger:

      My thoughts exactly! how could they be surprised,eh? This article is a bit re-hashed as ampersand wrote-" This particular article is a rather scanty re-hash. There are more in depth articles that discuss the complex factors that are emerging as the causes of CCD and cite current studies and research."
      Any links to the current studies and info. you mention in your comment amersand- that you could add here for us?
      Thanks!

    • 1 year ago
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