Other Countries Probing Bush-Era Torture - Why Aren't We?

Yeah? Give me some examples? You're great with the generalities, lost on the specifics.

What a hateful, ignorant, comment - which has been proven false by the way. America resorting to torture served only to recruit more terrorists.

I have to agree with you on this one. But I don't think it is because we do not care. The arab world has been painted as evil ever since 9/11 and like good little robots we believed them. We were in such shock that someone would bomb us, that we were not given time to think. We were all caught up in " OH NO YOU DIDN'T!!!!!" We were ready to kill whoever our government said it was. We are American and we believe in fighting to keep our country safe. The only problem was that we were lied to. I think think the most of us do not want to believe that we were lied to. But sooner or later we will have to face the truth. I know for me I did not really start looking into our foriegn policies until after 9/11. I thought we were out there helping people, defending the weak, ect. Now I know better. I wish that we as people could talk to the people one on one and let them know that these policies are not what we want, but what corporations and other big businesses want.

Agreed Chris. We generally believe what the government tells us, because we don't want to believe they are lying to us, but it is also clear that big business is running the government these days, profit above all else, no matter who is in the drivers seat, Repub or Demo.

As for impeaching the Pres., either Clinton or Bush, they've got to do something pretty egregious, for Congress to get their shit together enough to take someone out of office. And it would have to be on American Soil, it doesn't matter to most if it happens in the Persian Gulf/Middle East or anywhere else, we'd have to see it. They could drop a nuke on Switzerland, and it wouldn't draw Congress together enough to do anything. Just look at how they act towards each other. There isn't any real difference between them, except the label, yet they act like Arabs and Isrealis towards each other. It doesn't make sense to me. Kind of like San Francisco 49er fans vs. Oakland Raider fans. Their 10 miles from each other, yet they hate each other.

The only idiot here is you. Crimes where committed and that must be reconciled.

you know european nations are socialist more than capitalist.it isnt about money for them.
,aybe political points, but not money

Gramatical correction time!

The only thing that really happened with these (not this, because the word this implies a singular noun, and the noun used, "investigations" is in plural form) investigations was that; (not would be because would be implies that something is potentially future tense and has yet to happen, but the tense defining word used is "happened", which defines the tense as past tense) Michael Moore, Oliver Stone, and everybody who made a book got rich.

And although you an unemployment check is not a payroll check, it does help people who have lost their jobs stay afloat while they search for other work to support themselves and help support the economy.

There are many internet medias that will inform you about both sides of the controversy and it FREE

okay mr brave and smart one,,,reconcile away..punish the wicked..go after the bad guys..DO SOMETHING...

the fact is that "idiots" like you are stuck in this idiotic drama queen style of "awareness" but that is where "people like you" end. stuck in a never ending money making awareness movies and books and revelations but when it comes to breaking a sweat and drawing blood..you "idiots" become squirmish.

YOU DONT HAVE THE BALLS to punish..that is why atrocities happen

and europe is not fairing any better on the fight against terrorism..

thank you for correcting my post..NOW COMPREHEND THE CONTEXT..

it supports the person while they look for a job.but it will not STIMULATE the economy..

Here's the basic idea. When people buy stuff, that stimulates the economy.

wether or not a socialist nation succeeds or fails fighting terrorism doesnt change that it isnt profit based, wich it is not.while crooks of all sorts from cheney to micheal moore pimp it out for profit, terrorism exists regardless.
shit blows up and how we respond to it, is a pretty big deal wether or not is makes a buck or not.

and then what?

And then prosecution, typical conservative doesn't know what the legal system is for.

And then prosecution, typical conservative doesn't know what the legal system is for.

especially as we (americans) did it to british citizens

a record like the geneva conventions are created outlining standards in practice that were overlooked as well as punishing the guilty who committed these crimes.

the liberals had done all the apologizing and the flag burning for everybody

so that is the requirement for justice in your eyes.
a guy kills your mother, and justice is found by destroying something that is representative of him?
why do we have all these jails then?

I think I might like to see him die in one of those privatized prisons. Or perhaps put him on work duty the next time oil needs to be cleaned up.

not unless you are child molesting liberal hollywood celebrity

only micheal obama and her tax payer spending sprees are welcome in spain

and who is going to do that?? the DNC?

i am sorry to say this but the man will die with his fist up the liberal masses a** and if that is too much to handle..roll up another one and go "escape reality"

honestly..tell me if there is no truth to what i just wrote..

I do not smoke or take any drug, i have never once tried any weed or tobacco etc.

Can't say the same for Glenn Beck And Rush Limbaugh.

Right cause she used a countrys credit card to what go on a trip, well so the only thing the country payed for was security. so thanks for trying to contiue the ignorance of conservatives. I would also like to point out that even if she went on a shopping spree with the country's money she would still cost us less money than the republicans and their "war on terror" which in cased you haven't noticed is just a bunch of trumped up bullhsit.

i cant figure out why you guys arent on board.i mean blair is gone and has professed how error filled the whole thing was.you guys are known for your independant courts that adjudicate matters other nations shun.
if not you than who?

well you clearly are abreast of geopolitical events

the difference is our abuse is tom foolery as the hippies abandoned pot and became titans of industry as they became yuppies.the right just prefer addiction over experimentation.

i didnt smoke pot for a decade, literaly a decade but im catagorized as a liberal stoner.i dont even think im that liberal.what ever

a billion dollars a day for a year=365 billion dollars
5 years of duel wars at that price all completely unbudgeted is how much?
i mean i dont think the obamas could spend that much if they were buying platnum everything.

yeah that i know, i meant im surprised you guys havent taken us to task.i dont imagine a nation does a truly honest job of in house punishment, but it would seem a great way to absolve your own involvement by throwing us under the bus.
it is politicaly smart and nothing is going to break our alliance, our cultures are too close to be split.

yeah but the future occupation will steadily decrease and so will the cost.shit we still have troops in germany costing us almost nothing.

Michael????? Spell check buddy. Works wonders

I was surprised and shock when Obama said that we shoud look to the future and not dwell on the past. I knew then that nothing was going to happen to Bsh and Cheney. Something was happening behind the scenes that we may never find out about. How could we just dismiss their actions. Yet still there where only whispers of outrage.

i think a precident has been set by ford that for some reason is honored as if it were a tradition.he pardoned nixon, and we didnt look in to war crimes for vietnam, wich we were guilty of worse than now.bush pardoned scooter libby just cuz he felt like it.its like thier is a pardon line we dont cross with our leaders.
so obama got a pass on having to make that unprecidented move to go after the previous guys administration.

what does that lead to though, and dont get me wrong i think bush should face courts in iraq and afganastan, not here.how many presidential terms before we become acustom to the new guy beating up on his predicessor.

if that is a tradition we keep, and our economy collapses (no empire lasts forever) it would be ette brutus all the time.we would be like the romanovs or the romans or any of the bazillion civilizations where new power is born from the death of the previous.or i could be extrapilating way to deep and too far ahead