Image
TimALoftis
The daughter of a lesbian couple, married legally in Canada, was denied admission by a private school outside of Dallas.

FoxNews.com reports that Jill and Tracy Harrison attempted to enroll their daughter Olivia at Bedford's St. Vincent's Episcopal School in Bedford. Upon going through Olivia's application, school officials assumed Tracy was a man, but when the women attended parent's night, Olivia was denied admission.

The school released a statement claiming the women's "personal values" were in conflict with that of the Catholic school. The letter made a point to only reference Olivia's biological mother: “We regret the disappointment the mother feels. It is clear, however, that enrolling the child in a traditional Christian school, such as St. Vincent’s School, would not foster her own personal values at home. And it might undermine the moral instruction of our clergy and teachers in the minds of our schools students and parents. Our prayers are with Olivia and her mother."

The Harrisons said they chose St. Vincent's because of recommendations and the school's low student to teacher ratio.
  1. groups:
    Community,   News and Politics,   Gay,   LGBT,   2 more
  2. tags:
    Gay Marriage Gays
  3.     
    |

98 comments // Tex. School Denies Child of Gay Moms

  • street_smart
  • EccentricSage
    • +2
      EccentricSage  
    • The kid is better off, trust me. ...and... why are we surprised?

      Only thing I will say is that if the school does apply for grants from the government, they should be denied for their prejudice. Of course, I also think religious organizations should not be tax exempt.

    • 1 year ago
  • controlusplease
    • +2
      controlusplease  
    • ahhhh catholic school
      i went to one for almost a full semester in 7th grade when i was briefly living in Oregon. instead of it being hell on me, i made it hell on them
      i recall the pastor guy or whoever it was telling me i was one of the 3 kids to ever get expelled from the school, and may god have mercy on my tainted soul
      i also recall that day being one of the best in my life. oh, the hatred that burned in his eyes!

    • 1 year ago
  • common_sense_please
    • +1
      common_sense_please  
    • Damn it--I guess the movie Sister Act was all based on a lie... : P although that's some serious irony that they would allow a black woman who is hiding because she was supposed to testify against her white married boyfriend who was on trial for murder and attempted murder (but irony within irony-not for committing adultery)-- to not only impersonate a nun but also teach music and teach the parishioners to perform christian cover versions of R & B songs that would go on to be popular to use as background music and english instruction for mass calisthenic exercises in Korea or China--but not allow a little girl to go to school and get a quality education or take the religious indoctrination the school would require her to learn back to her mommies and tell them what's "right" and "moral".

    • 1 year ago
  • Reaper26
    • +1
      Reaper26  
    • last i check St. Vincent's Episcopal School.. is Episcopal and not catholic i mean unless this is a new thing i doubt their the same...

    • 1 year ago
  • corndog67
    • +4
      corndog67  
    • Are they tax exempt because it's a religious school? Most religions are intolerant of gays and lesbians, why should the Catholics be any different. I'm for removing tax exempt status from ALL religions.

    • 1 year ago
  • toyotabedzrock
    • +7
      toyotabedzrock  
    • Two points I'd like to make

      First, they hold a Tax Exempt status, which means they should be obeying anti discrimination laws.

      Second, support for Equal Marriage has almost doubled in the past 10 years, if the church had half a brain they should be vary scared for there own existence which will be jeopardized by these public incidents.

    • 1 year ago
  • toyotabedzrock
    • -2
      toyotabedzrock  
    • Two points I'd like to make

      First, they hold a Tax Exempt status, which means they should be obeying anti discrimination laws.

      Second, support for Equal Marriage has almost doubled in the past 10 years, if the church had half a brain they should be vary scared for there own existence which will be jeopardized by these public incidents.

    • 1 year ago
  • EtVoila
    • +4
      EtVoila  
    • My advice to these people? They should make haste and leave Texas and then take their daughter back to Canada. And, when they get there, they should enroll her in a Canadian PUBLIC school. Their daughter will grow up and learn the facts, learn about evolution in a school full of children from diverse backgrounds, while not having to see her parents being discriminated against; something she would have been deprived of in a lowly Texas Catholic "school".

      They'll live happily ever after, sans the discrimination, ignorance, fundamentalism, and intolerance.

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • EccentricSage
  • trut
  • KSirys
    • +4
      KSirys  
    • Anyone that saw or read this line, St. Vincent's Episcopal, should know they are going to a hypocritical, asinine, one track thinking group... These types of schools need to be left alone. They are not going to change unless they are funded publicly...

      It's sad that the same institution that preaches forgiveness, compassion and helping..... (yeah right) is the first one to criticize, attack and throw you to the curve, if you don't follow their blind belief...

    • 1 year ago
  • corndog67
    • 0
      corndog67  
    • I don't see an issue here. It's a Catholic school. They do not accept the parents lifestyle. OK, you don't have to accept anything I do, or they do. You don't have to give them your money, either. That's their choice. Why would you make a big issue about it? Texas is as conservative as they come, I'm sure they get a lot more grief from people in their neighborhood, people in local government, people everywhere around them. Everyone up in arms here, you've got to take into consideration there locale. There is a lot of difference in the amount of tolerance across this country. Nothing said here is going to make any difference in the area of the country where they live.

    • 1 year ago
  • toyotabedzrock
    • 0
      toyotabedzrock  
    • corndog67:

      The mayor of Houston Texas is a lesbian.

      It is also obvious that this school is a danger to the public since they are basically saying that they want to preach hatred of there fellow man.

    • 1 year ago
  • common_sense_please
    • +1
      common_sense_please  
    • toyotabedzrock:

      sadly though pointing that out doesn't help because the former governor of Arizona and now Homeland Security secretary is a rumored lesbian and you see how crazy backassward some of the people in Arizona are about civil rights--but I guess she was/is counterbalanced by John McCain so......

    • 1 year ago
  • pope307
    • +3
      pope307  
    • While I'm not sure why anyone would want to "join" a group that doesn't respect them, this religious "private" school should denounce their tax deferred status, as well as refuse to accept public monies of any kind. Right, like that is going to happen. Just another example of how religious institutions are losing ground, status, and influence on people. Hopefully.

    • 1 year ago
  • trut
    • +2
      trut  
    • Private schools are the first step towards no public education. The school is private, they only let in who they want.

    • 1 year ago
  • Aaron_Khan
    • +10
      Aaron_Khan  
    • I DON"T SEE THE SCHOOL TURNING AWAY STUDENTS WHOSE PARENTS HAVE BEEN DIVORCED!!! There are over 50 scriptures on the evils of divorce in the new testament alone while there are 1 or 2 on homosexuality. The new testament states that if you divorce your spouse other than reasons for sexual unfaithfulness or death, you are sinning every time you sleep with your new spouse. Typical religious hypocrisy. Only use the Bible when it suits your needs or prejudices.

    • 1 year ago
  • toyotabedzrock
    • +1
      toyotabedzrock  
    • Aaron_Khan:

      The old testament endorses stoning to death.

      Deuteronomy 21
      ...
      ...
      21:18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

      21:19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

      21:20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

      21:21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

    • 1 year ago
  • xiola
  • cralston2001
  • ShaneSamson
  • Radical_Centrist
    • -1
      Radical_Centrist  
    • I send my Daughter to a Private CHRISTIAN School for a reason. I do NOT believe in forcing my morals on other people but I do not want them forcing theirs on me either. I believe this School is well within it's rights to deny admission to people they believe do not meet their schools standards.

    • 1 year ago
  • wellhunggimp
    • +1
      wellhunggimp  
    • It's a private school, they're allowed to take and reject whoever they want for whatever "reasons" they may or may not have.

      That being said, what made a couple of lesbian think a religious school would take their kid? That'd be like me taking my kid to a KKK school and expecting everything to be all bueno. C'mon son!

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • wellhunggimp
    • 0
      wellhunggimp  
    • donkeyfly69:

      Obviously. There are even black, gay republicans who want tougher gun control laws. They are unexpected. No reasonable person would expect to meet one of them, nor would a reasonable person expect to see a catholic school accepting the children of gay parents. But you are right, they can be found.

    • 1 year ago
  • toyotabedzrock
  • donkeyfly69
  • wellhunggimp
  • donkeyfly69
  • wellhunggimp
    • 0
      wellhunggimp  
    • donkeyfly69:

      Well, assuming that's all true, you put yourself through the wringer. Republicans like guns more than they like Blacks and Gays combined, yet you've chosen to align yourself with them. Add to that the fact that republicans get as much love on current as a woman with a PhD wearing a bikini at a taliban meeting and I'd say, you are indeed, a supreme masochist.

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
    • 0
      donkeyfly69  
    • wellhunggimp:

      "Republicans like guns more than they like Blacks and Gays combined"

      and all dems are gay commies in disguise who love islam? give me a break.

      "republicans get as much love on current as..."

      i've received plenty of love here! lol

    • 1 year ago
  • wellhunggimp
    • 0
      wellhunggimp  
    • donkeyfly69:

      I didn't say all. I love how folks act like because they know of examples that aren't true that somehow there is no overall truth. If republicans really did love they gays and blacks, do you really think America would be the same as it is in real life?

      Hold on, my bad. If you somehow made it through life as a homosexual negro who wants tougher gun control laws AND decided to be republican, what the fuck could I possibly say against republicans that you'd agree with?

      I dub thee Anomaly.

    • 1 year ago
  • dr_robert14
  • donkeyfly69
  • GodIsTheReason
    • -2
      GodIsTheReason  
    • dr_robert14:

      What discrimination? The lifestyle doesn't fit the biblical teachings of the school.

      Although I believe the girl should be allowed in the school so she can be taught a proper Biblical family structure.

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • GodIsTheReason
    • -1
      GodIsTheReason  
    • donkeyfly69:

      Stupid reply but here you go.

      Slavery is not necessarily discrimination but at times has been used an example of discrimination.

      It can be said that that the followers of Charlie Manson were slaves to his teaching's.

      It can be said that American Taxpayers are slaves to the government.

      Both of these examples are not "discrimination"

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
    • 0
      donkeyfly69  
    • GodIsTheReason:

      wtf kind of tangent did you fly off of? the bottom line is the bible can be (and has been) used to promote just about any idea. from pedophilia, to murder, to smoking pot. a certain interpretation of the bible doesn't give you free reign to do whatever the hell you want.

    • 1 year ago
  • GodIsTheReason
  • donkeyfly69
  • trut
  • flyingkick
    • +12
      flyingkick  
    • Why the hell would they want their child going to a Catholic school anyways?

      What did you learn in school today honey?

      The Earth is only 5,000 years old, evolution is wrong, and you and my other mommy are going to hell.

      wtf

    • 1 year ago
  • Four20Blunt
    • +5
      Four20Blunt  
    • flyingkick:

      And worth noting, the catholic church seems to have a little pedophilia problem in the priesthood. And have turned a blind eye, probably for centuries. Who gave them the right to judge these two women, or deny their daughter an education.

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
    • +1
      donkeyfly69  
    • flyingkick:

      the parents were both christian and said they wanted her brought up with christian morals.

      i'd send my kid to a religious private school over a public school any day. although with things like this happening i doubt my kid would get in.

    • 1 year ago
  • Four20Blunt
    • +5
      Four20Blunt  
    • For preaching tolerance, as a group Christians the most intolerant batch of individuals on this rock, trying to force there visions of morality on people. A schools mission should always be education. It is up to parents to provide children with their moral compass. The immorality is when a moral center is not provided by the parents. The sex of the parents is not relevant. Christians should go back to being a message of comfort, and not a seller of "Snake Oil Morality".

    • 1 year ago
  • Naumadd
    • +6
      Naumadd  
    • All in all, it's within the right of the school to deny admission to this child. Still, it's ironic that denying the child admission is likely to inspire her far better education elsewhere.

      The consequences to a bad decision aren't all bad. Every action in the universe is itself a consequence of previous action and sets off an unending chain of consequences difficult to impossible to predict. This means that, despite the tragedy of the Jewish holocaust perpetrated by the German Nazis, much come has come of their actions - unintended yes, but good all the same.

      There is a good lesson in this rejection for both the child and her parents. One possible good result is the fact that many among us are disgusted by such bigotry and, to spite those guilty of it, some will perhaps offer the child and her parents assistance in finding a quality school more enlightened and better for the child in the long run. Hell, she might even get a free education altogether. Another is that other parents may now be informed enough to avoid placing their child in such a place of small-minded education.

      Bigots do us the kindness of revealing themselves thus making it easier to marginalize them in our own lives.

    • 1 year ago
  • common_sense_please
    • +3
      common_sense_please  
    • I freaking love hypocrites. The Catholic Church up until the 21st century went into every nation around the world and the first thing they did was separate the children from their immoral horrible native culture and put them in centralized boarding schools and teach them to become good god fearing Catholics.

      And ironically this couple was given a letter that denied their daughter admission because "it might undermine the moral instruction of our clergy and teachers in the minds of our schools students and parents."

      But duh! I just realized that every time stories about lesbians having their child denied access to catholic school make the news-- the child being denied is a girl---so THAT explains it.

    • 1 year ago
  • Humdrum
    • +3
      Humdrum  
    • As lame as the whole thing is, this is a private school. They can accept or reject whomever they want.

      It'd be big news if it were a public school, but this bigoted silliness from a private Christian school should be expected by everyone - especially the girl's parents.

    • 1 year ago
  • UtopianSky
    • +2
      UtopianSky  
    • What a bitchy letter- they on purpose used the word "mother" instead of "mothers" repeatedly.

      Why would they want their child to go to a Catholic school anyway?
      A low teacher to student ratio is still a high bigot to student ratio.

    • 1 year ago
  • Stoneyroad
    • +6
      Stoneyroad  
    • " Our Prayers are with Olivia & her Mother " ?

      Like - "our hearts go out to you & I will get down on my knees, and beg my Holy Daddy in the sky to forgive you & look after your well being"

      But - " I hate your ilk so much, I can't find the decency to teach your child how to read "

    • 1 year ago
  • ezrierin
    • +5
      ezrierin  
    • The school is a Catholic school in the US. It is private and therefore has the right to ban any child according to its religious jurisdiction as a private school, as long as the school does not take public funds. But let me get back to that, and first talk about the behavior of the church in theological terms.
      I cannot understand the logic behind the Catholic belief that homosexuality is a sin. I say this in the face of the fact that the Catholic Church defines postoperative transsexuals as either men or women. According to the church, if the post op woman leads a life according to the rules of the Catholic Church, she can even get married to a man inside the church under Catholicism.
      The Catholic Church recognizes gender dysphoria as a treatable disease (some argument there in itself), and therefore acts with reason and empathy for what they see as the illness of gender dysphoric.
      Historically I believe that the phenomena of gender dysphoria, first presented in the recent past, happened at a time where more reasonable minds accepted gender dysphoria as at the very least a disease, to which Christian kindness must apply.
      Homosexuality was presented to the Catholic Church in less enlightened times, and so was equated with sin.
      However, how can the Catholic Church happily define gender dysphoria as a disease and show kindness, and not at the very least recognize homosexuality as a disease and place homosexuals under the same protections of the church as other people who are ill?
      It makes no sense, and I believe Jesus (mythical or real) would only be concerned with the soul and not the behavior of the so-called ill person who submits to the so-called ravages of homosexuality.
      The Church welcomes alcoholics, in or out of recovery, so why not homosexuals?
      I think it is going to take either a Third Ecumenical Council or a decree by the Pope before empathy will prevail in the Catholic Church. Unfortunately I think that will be a long time coming. How sad.
      However, in the secular world, there is as legal argument that I would like to see the ACLU or other originations take up in court. The Catholic Church in question may not be taking direct financial contributions from the government, but can it not be argued that infrastructure alone constitutes public funding? I mean we built the road to the church, the water mains, and the power lines. We funded the churches ability to be built, and under law that means it has to abide by secular laws. The same would apply toward any other church that takes and uses public infrastructure and therefore public contributions.
      If ANY Church rejects a court ruling against them, then they can be closed down as a publicly funded entity that will not obey the law.
      Gets you thinking don’t it??? :)

    • 1 year ago
  • toyotabedzrock
  • feefer2010
  • ReverandG
    • -12
      ReverandG  
    • The Catholic school has every right to deny admission. As a private school with ZERO State or Federal dollars the board can choose to follow the Church's stance against Gay unions, and the Gay agenda. I won't call it marriage because it is not. Children need a Father and a Mother. You 17%ers are really oblivious to the rest of the countrys' Moral Values. You all should move to California the welfare and Gay state, become your own Sodom.

    • 1 year ago
  • xiola
    • +1
      xiola  
    • ReverandG:

      Actually, insults and hate aside, you have a good point. They have the right to make their own decisions on this--they are a private school. As Eddie Murphy made clear, it's their house, they can do what they want. We have a right to voice our indignance about it, though. :)

    • 1 year ago
  • Naumadd
    • +3
      Naumadd  
    • ReverandG:

      No, some children do NOT need both a father and a mother. In fact, some children have no need of either. Such things are taken for granted, but the truth is that "need" is determined by the specific child in question - not by statistics or tradition.

      True, the school has the right to deny admission of the child, but they haven't the right to be considered "right" in doing so.

      There is no "right to agreement", only right to respect your decision - PROVIDED - it doesn't violate the rights and liberties of others. "Freedom of religion" isn't freedom from skepticism, critique and opposition.

    • 1 year ago
  • flyingkick
  • TasteHi
  • xiola
    • +4
      xiola  
    • You know, I'm from Texas, and I love it and defend it often. I promise you, it's not all bad. But GOD! They're just killing me when they do stuff like this!

      Just killing me. So disappointing.

    • 1 year ago
  • versasrev
    • 0
      versasrev  
    • This sucks, but I'm unsure of the legality in this case as it is a private institution.

      Although my gut feeling tells me it is most definitely wrong, and illegal; I'm just not sure right now.

    • 1 year ago
  • freecrack
    • +2
      freecrack  
    • and here is how the fucked up religious right will use this.they will take any negative result placed on the texas school from this as an example of the damage gay marraige does.
      not the prejudice of the school

    • 1 year ago
  • tylervictoria1
    • +13
      tylervictoria1  
    • wwjd guys. I mean come on, if jesus could let prostitutes wash his feet then some stuffy ass "christian" school can let a kid raised by lesbians learn long division. i swear non-christians understand christian values better christians do. do they also turn down kids with divorced parents? kids conceived out of wedlock? kids with parents who commit actual crimes? i could rant all day.

    • 1 year ago
  • NotFooled
    • -2
      NotFooled  
    • tylervictoria1:

      What would you say if the school teaches the child the church's beliefs on homosexuality ? Isn't it better for the child in your opinion for the school to allow the "parents" to pass on their own beliefs ?

    • 1 year ago
  • Naumadd
    • +2
      Naumadd  
    • tylervictoria1:

      Well, obviously, you have to understand a value before you can genuinely reject it. It's unclear how many persons genuinely understand a value before they accept it.

      Obviously, many accept values simply because that's what the majority are doing.

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • NotFooled
  • donkeyfly69
  • NotFooled
  • donkeyfly69
  • NotFooled
  • Nephwrack
  • KSirys
  • bailey78
    • +3
      bailey78  
    • Ya know folks I hate to say i live in Texas some times Just because of bullshit like this. who gives a rats ass who is raiseing the kids so long as they are being taken care of. I guess its ok for Catholic Preist to get touchy feely with little boys But if your Gay then it wrong to have kids. Thats so wrong.

    • 1 year ago
  • Omnomynous
    • -9
      Omnomynous  
    • Keyword; private.....

      It is pretty bad though, and I try to accept that some Christians are indeed good people, but these assholes aren't helping.

      I figure her "mothers" are already fucked up enough to deny her a FATHER, you'd think the school would have some compassion...

      Sorry "evolution" dictated we should have one of each, a male and female parent, that's not to pick on foster parents who are willing enough to sacrifice a little of their time for someone that otherwise would go without, sexual orientation does become irrelevant when a child has a need and the good "straight" folks won't pick up the slack, but....

      Children need fathers..... prime example right here.

    • 1 year ago
  • Stoneyroad
    • +8
      Stoneyroad  
    • Omnomynous:

      Evolution dictates women need sperm to have a baby.
      they don't need to be married.
      "Good straight folks" as you call them abandon their kids all the time.
      (god's plan?)

      And how is this an example of kids needing a Father?
      The only thing the kid in this story needs a father for is to attend a superstitious, delusional christian private school.

    • 1 year ago
  • freecrack
  • tylervictoria1
  • ShaneSamson
    • +4
      ShaneSamson  
    • Omnomynous:

      Children need to know they're loved and supported. That's it. The idea that children need a father figure and a mother figure stems from outdated gender roles.

      You see, the beautiful thing about families is that they are all different. A kid can be raised by two moms, two dads, a mom and a dad, step parents, single parents, foster parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles, brothers & sisters, etc. and turn out just fine as long as they know they're loved and supported.

    • 1 year ago
  • Stoneyroad
  • Naumadd
    • +2
      Naumadd  
    • ShaneSamson:

      What a child needs is protection, love and guidance. Having been a child, it doesn't really matter who it comes from as long as they have it. If they don't have it, all have failed them - male, female, mother, father, family, straight, homosexual, asexual, polygamist, atheist, wiccan, buddhist, monotheist, rich, poor or humanity in general.

      To say ALL children need a father and mother simply because such are common in the lives of many children is an unwarranted assumption. "Need" can only be genuinely determined from the specific child in question.

      I've not noticed that a woman or a man have any particular monopoly on skill sets needed to raise a child. Generally speaking, men and women seem equally capable of success and equally capable of failure.

    • 1 year ago
  • ShaneSamson
  • Four20Blunt
  • EmperorThan
    • +4
      EmperorThan  
    • It's a private school, they can deny whoever they want. If it was a PUBLIC school this would be a crazy big story, as is it's just a private school freely displaying their intolerant views.

    • 1 year ago
  • bailey78
  • EmperorThan
    • +4
      EmperorThan  
    • bailey78:

      Yeah, if the Catholic school listen to it's own prophet and believed in that silly 'forgiveness' message he spouted I'm sure the child would have been accepted. But it's apparent that they're some of those 'non-forgiving' Christians.

    • 1 year ago
  • xiola
  • xiola
  • artemis6
  • artemis6
  • EmperorThan
  • freecrack
    • +3
      freecrack  
    • artemis6:

      keep dem fags dumb.fuckin douchebags

      the irony is they are fore going an opportunity to cultivate a mind that will be tought that wich they dont want kids to learn.this school is cutting off its nose despite its face.

      it would be like alcoholica anonymous denying alcoholics lol

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
  • littlwarrior
    • +2
      littlwarrior  
    • Poor kid, but i do have to say I can see where the school is coming from, they are a catholic school, and they would be teaching the child things that disagree with her mothers life style. If I were the girls parents i would not have even put my kid there.

    • 1 year ago
  • Naumadd
    • +2
      Naumadd  
    • littlwarrior:

      Then again, they could be underestimating the natural ability of the child to make up their own mind. I know I did despite the consistent attempts by those around me as a child to steer me in some directions and away from others.

      Suffice to say, the needs and abilities of every child can potentially be underestimated and overestimated which is why more time should be spent discerning what a child needs and what they are capable of than assuming all of it and risk avoidable mistakes with potentially irreparable consequences.

    • 1 year ago
  • TimALoftis
  • bailey78
more from Community:

top videos