Man Arrested For Holding “Impeach Obama” Sign Shocking Video!

Listen, here's what the judge is going to say:
Did security ask you to leave?
Yes.
Did you leave?
No.
OK, well, you're guilty of trespassing.
Trespassing gives security the right to remove him. Resisting security gives them the right to restrain him.
The only thing they can get security with is for an unnecessary use of force- I just don't see it on the video.

I know it doesn't seem fair, but that's how the law works.

Trespassing.... how when he purchased a ticket?

I just explained it to you, lol.

If you're on private property and the owner/staff/security asks you to leave, you must leave, otherwise it's considered trespassing.
It doesn't matter if you bought a ticket or not. Think about a movie theater. You buy a ticket to watch a movie and you're allowed in. But if you violate any of the theater's policies (talking too loud, drinking alcohol, using a phone), you may be asked to leave, and if you refuse, you're trespassing. This is really basic legal stuff here.

The guy was trespassing the second he refused to leave when security asked him to.

yes but the definition of vendor would be "a supplier of any goods or services?" seems like he shouldn't need a lic to sell when he isnt selling anything, So if it was a Smaller poster size version that he attached to his back would be ok?

They should have told him that. And they should have told him it was private property. I didn't see them telling him it was private property when he said "this is public property". They didn't give him a reason, didn't read him his rights. Nothing.

There ARE laws that say you have to do that kinda stuff you know. If they had I would agree with you. But they didn't say "Sir, this is not public property this is fairground property, you must follow vendor guidelines in advance of an event." etc etc. Not one of them said that, not one of them radioed to someone else to ask event organizers if it was private property, not one of them called police (REAL COPS NOT RENTACOPS) to let them handle the situation.

I notice the convenient undercover cop 'shows up' right when he thinks the crowd is about to attack the security guards. And by 'attack' I mean help the old man breath whose being improperly crushed into the ground so that he can't breathe but bumbling moron rent-a-cops. Why didn't the undercover cop do anything before that? Did he not see a threat before that point? Or worse, he realized they just made an illegal attack and arrest of an elderly handicapped man that he didn't want to associate himself with in fear of losing his badge?

Here's my BIGGEST QUESTION OF ALL: Why wasn't he stopped at the front gate? Who let him in with that humongous fucking sign in the first place??????

So let me get this straight... you found something that shows the rules for this particular event? And they clearly state political campaigning at a Fairground requires you to rent a booth and follow vendor guidelines? IF so then post the link. You think everyone's just supposed to take you word on this? Post a link or shut up.

Why did I post this? Simple because I can. Now put that link up or stop the BS. Stay posted I'm bout drop some really good posts today.

He paid his admission, walked in with this sign and nobody said anything at that point. If it's such a clearly written rule why didn't they stop him from coming in?

It doesn't matter if it's public or private property, that's not really an issue. Either way, if he wants to campaign, he needs to get a booth and follow vendor rules. They don't have to explain anything to him, other than what he's doing is against policy and that he needs to leave. He resisted, so that gave them the right to restrain him. Security guards are allowed to restrain people, believe it or not- it's basically a citizen's arrest.

lol, oh man, you gotta be kidding me...
Did you even read any of the links you provided?

"Fair marketing director Dean Phipps says the fair has an unwritten policy against people campaigning in common areas of the fairgrounds.

If people want to deliver a political message -- on abortion or Pebble Mine, for example -- they're expected to rent a booth and follow vendor guidelines, he said.

As for the security guards? Did they go too far?

Phipps defended the use of force seen in the clip.

“The initial attempt was to educate him and let him know what the rules were, and he became belligerent. They felt that they were assaulted ... and then responded to that.”

http://community.adn.com/adn/node/152921

It's a private business's policy, they can interpret it however they want really.
He screwed up by yelling at security and then refusing to leave.
I know it doesn't seem fair, but that's just how businesses work.

So we can't just arrest anyone for yelling then?

And what would constitute 'disturbing the peace' exactly? What if my definition of disturbing the peace was a person talking on their cellphone? Shall I alert the police and tell them to arrest them because they've disturbed 'my' peace? What if that person says I've disturbed their peace by calling the police on them? Would the police arrest both of us?

Boy, I'm glad you didn't write the First Amendment!

hey if you want to act like a constitution-beating teabagger then so be it, doesn't bother me in the least, you know what i meant so don't even bother acting as if its so damn important

People screaming gets me into an aggressive manner, nobody likes pigs or security but this guy deserved a real beating not the kid gloves he was handled with.

What has this got to do with anything?

Ya see even that Fox has a CrAzIeD look on it's face . What is up with that?

it's a thin veil, very thin.

appearantly it's privately owned. sarcasm: It must've been owned by a nazi Obama supporter (sarcasm).

Actually, there you go. If it's privately owned, you want to charge for that free speech (which is actually advertising in this case).

Love the saying. I agree for the most part but this kind of shit has been around for a years, so I wouldn't characterize the changes as drastic.

Be quiet and eat you shit pudding fool.

http://current.com

I bet he never thought he'd end up on current.com with pink draws on. The morale of the story men.... is never leave the house with dirty or pink draws on.

Alaska looks pretty. The natural beauty of it does. I bet summer's really awesome. 24hrs of sun. I'll go someday.

Lol. I wish I hadn't seen that. Does that make him a pinko?

Wow, that sure leaves some eggs on some faces.

I rushed to judgement, he was advertising a web address. If it was just the sign and yelling, maybe Free Speech. With the fire-arm, things got iffy. Upset man with gun in pocket, in the middle of a crowd? If he had shot someone, we would be blaming the security. I avoid large crowds, Tarl Cabot says ''Where they allow no arms, it's best to be armed''.

Can you post where you read that from please.

An example of such a place would be Mexico

Except that, in reality, these are former-Palin's foot soldiers.

they all answer to the same people....

Oh noez! If I dissent, obama will kill meeee.

SHUT UP. Join the fucking club. I didn't see him getting maced in the face or shot with a riot gun in the chest like the antiwar protesters seven years ago.

My god, you morons are bad at math.

It's that fuzzy math that bush was teaching.

It's my country too. I think I'll keep it.

A Police State is more like it

Courts generate lots of revenue, with well trained foot soldiers.

First off I'd agree with you that private and public "security" forces have gotten into the habit of VASTLY abusing their authority in this county.
And yes, private and public security personnel in this country should ALL be taking remedial classes in Constitutional rights, with frequent updates.
The clever way that corporate interests have gotten around the bothersome"free speech" issue when they they don't approve of the message, or the distraction from commerce, is to make all the formerly public area of malls, signed private property.
We just went through a thousand nasty examples of that trimming back of free speech during the Bush regime.
This happened in Alaska with some private security guards, on reputed "private property." I'd note that the security guards actually started off with remarkable restrain in the fact of the personal provocation the dusty old dude was giving them, but still, aside from their particular issue (said to be blockage of access) the old dude had the perfect right to protest there, as far as I'm concerned.
Sadly, (and I agree, it's a gross erosion of liberty) courts in the US hold otherwise.
If you haven't seen it there is an even more egregious example of this kind of fake badge and stuffed uniform mistreatment from a week or so ago in Los Angeles. Two deaf men leaving a Forever 21 store in LA and didn't hear the security beep at the exit door. Two burly security guards tackled one of the deaf men and started choking him on suspicion of shoplifting. The other deaf man was waving his arms frantically and trying to inform the guard the man he was strangling couldn't hear and was waving their receipts from the store. It went on endlessly, a very brutal scene.
When you say we live in a Fascist State, I'd argue that there ARE strong elements of fascism in private and public areas of our society.
I just don't see them as generally that coordinated though.
(At least since Bush and Cheney left the halls of power.)
Any time you want to work toward rolling back the royal exemption that commercial malls get from the First Amendment, I'm with you on that, bro.

Yes they do . I know I have bought more than one patrol car over the years.

Bailey, my man, you know it's far cheaper to make an annual donation to the Policeman's Benevolent Society.

Lol.

But they like to get my money a little at a time.

I see. Well, that's good you have an installment plan worked out with them.

it's not really an installment plan i just don't get busted for anything big anymore. the last tme cost me $4500.00

Wow, Bailey, for that kind of money they should have given you a lifetime pass to the Police Benevolent Society.

Just great now somebody tells me that.

I live here in Texas and We call it freedom of speech. Just because I don't agree with what you say does not mean you can't say it.

I agree 100%.... That was misleading... "shocking video" a man being arrested for exercising his right to free speech in the U.S. and getting arrested for it. Nothing shocking there. Just drink those high fructose laced sodas folks... everything's fine. Enjoy the rest of your day at the fair.

had his sign said i like ike, his behavior is what got him arrested.basic civil behavior laws cover that well good.this is the fire in a theater area of free speech.he also didnt cooperate wich made the whole situation worse.
what is shocking if anything is to what levels we permit ourselves to go in the name of free speech.like cuz the second amendmant says every citizen has the right to bear arms, a two year old being as they are citizens of the untied states are free and clear to carry.rights with in reason, not to appease the unreasonable.

Believe or not Toyota, the snow actually melts during the summer time in Alaska.

it does seem a little staged and I would like to see the full video.

I know the snow melts, thanks. What I was pointing out was that some people where dressed like they where in a more southern state like California.

It's ok. People think that all Californians are surfers.