Glenn Beck Condemns Obama's Christianity, Calls for "Religious Revival"
source: http://www.care2.com/causes/politics/blog/glenn-beck-liberation-theology/
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Religion has slipped its way into recent media discourses, mostly because of the Park51 Center controversy and the revelation that disturbing number of Americans believe Barack Obama to be a Muslim. But many of these discourses have centered on the othering of American Muslims, which is why I was surprised to see a new twist in Beck's discussion of Obama's religion. Beck's new line is that while Obama may not be a Muslim, he is certainly a bad Christian. Specifically, Beck charged that Obama adhered to "liberation theology," a Catholic movement aligned with Marxism that originated in Latin America in the 1950's and '60s.
This morning, debriefing the rally on Fox News, Beck half-heartedly retracted an accusation of racism hurled at Obama last summer, saying that he had a "big fat mouth sometimes" (he may tie Dr. Laura for best non-apology of the year), but added that he made the comment because he "didn't understand Obama's theology."
Obama, Beck said, subscribed to liberation theology, which he described as centered on "oppressor and victim." This is not, Beck claimed, a theology which many Christians follow, because it is, in his words, the "direct opposite of what the gospel is talking about. It's Marxism disguised as religion." Beck took this complex theological discussion a little further, saying that while Obama believed that "your salvation is directly tied to collective salvation," while Beck (and all good Christians) believed that "Jesus came for personal salvation." Beck said "people aren't recognizing [Obama's] version of Christianity."
Liberation theology is not a new subject for Beck, who devoted an entire episode last July to attacking the idea that Jesus was a victim. "Social justice," Beck said, "isn't in the Bible...Jesus was a conqueror. Jesus conquered death."
Beck's deep misunderstanding of both liberation theology and much of Christianity itself are obvious in these remarks, and illustrate the extent to which Beck is willing to harness religious rhetoric for political aims. I don't know whether Obama subscribes to liberation theology, but if he does, it's in theory rather than in practice, because the movement itself has very little political influence today. His beliefs correspond to a basic tenet of Christianity: the obligation of the Christian to care for others. This is repeated throughout the New Testament, from Matthew 25:40 ("Just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me [Christ]") to Paul's epistle to the Romans, where he writes, "We, who are many, are one body in Christ, and individually we are members one of another." This doesn't seem to jive with Beck's assertion that because Christians believe that they are saved through God's grace, this translates into an exclusively personal vision of salvation.
In an interview on Religious Dispatches, Union Theological Seminary president Serene Jones addressed Glenn Beck's bizarre formation of grace, saying,
"Just as grace reminds us as individuals that there is nothing we can do to earn the love of God—that it is simply poured out upon us—so too it reminds us that at a political level, the minute we start constructing political structures that we think are unambiguously right, we are making our own politics into God. Nobody does that more than Glenn Beck."
Obama's interpretation of Christianity is not radical - and it is in fact Glenn Beck who is deeply out of sync with fundamental Christian ideals. When asked, on Fox News, how he would respond to critics of his wealth, Beck responded "the money doesn't matter." It's hard to believe that Beck hasn't read the gospel of Matthew, where Christ says to a young man, "If you wish to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give the money to the poor" (Matt. 19:21), but from his comments, it seems that he's never bothered to read or wrestle with the scriptures that he seems so eager for Americans to embrace.
Perhaps it would be best for Beck simply to listen to Martin Luther King, Jr., who wrote, "Any religion that professes to be concerned about the souls of men and is not concerned about the slums that damn them, the economic conditions that strangle them and the social conditions that cripple them is a spiritually moribund religion awaiting burial." Is Beck's God the one that we want America to turn toward? And is Beck's Christianity one that Christ would recognize?
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http://current.com/news/92642050_flashback-leaked-video-glenn-beck-uses-vicks-to...
Can he reeeally be believed after watching this video? I think not!
We need to have an 'honesty revival'! Accountability! Accountability! Accountability! Or a 'shame revival'. Honesty, accountability and shame, shame, shame!
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Conniepae
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DEM46
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Oh how I wish we could have a President who would renounce religion all together! It has really done very little but perpetuate hate and intolerance throughout our history. Very sad we can't move past imaginary beings and minimize the usefulness of the ideology for people like Beck. He is no different than a preacher who likes to taunt the faithful that if they don't believe and see things like he does they're going to hell - oh, I mean the socialists will bring down our country.
See any difference?
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DEM46
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mjsmith11
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President Obama renounced the Church of Jerimiah Wright during his Presidential campaign.
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mjsmith11
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Teomat
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There should be full seperation of church and state with the mandatory instruction of evolutuon in schools.
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Teomat
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How about take Americans further from god and mythology and closer to the facts of science. Religion shouldn't dictate the laws in this country. Why should a jew or a Buddhist follow a christian law in the land of religious freedom? Religion is what is holding us back as people, we make it harder to progress forward when people are still using irrelevant text written over 2,000 years ago by various people.
And who cares if obama might be Muslim, we wanted change! NO MORE WASPs! - 1 year ago
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Dmerza1989
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srg
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obama is a muslim, we all KNOW this.
The REAL question is:What does this islamic muslim intend to do with OUR NATION? What would hussien obama do with AMERICA"
ans: What would Mohammed do?
Now that you know...what will YOU do with mohammed.
NOBAMA IN NOVEMBA
republican politicians suck...but the alternative is far worse.
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srg
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thedirtman
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srg:
My feeling... I think you're just trying to be as obnoxious as humanly possible.
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thedirtman
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srg:
Obama is a muslim,Jesus was a christian,and monsanto really does care for humanity.....HA!
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dreamsenvoy
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srg:
"islamic muslim"?
So... Does that mean there are different kinds of Muslims?
Are there Jewish, Christian, and/or Pagan Muslims?
What about different flavors? I want a lemon-flavored Muslim!
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zHellas
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srg
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Moderate' muslim...is the cloak that hides the dagger of islam...aimed at the heart of our CHRISTIAN nation.
IS obama a muslim? how stupid must you be to not know.
When a radical muslim murdered 13 American soldiers...hussien obama immediately came forth calling for compassion & UNDERSTANDING for the islamic dog that slaughtered our children. Even before the dead were counted.
NOT comfort for the families left behind. Not outrage that soldiers for HIS? nation had been slain...Slain not in battle. not to achieve a military goal...They were slaughtered simply because they did not worship allah. The little god of thier assasin. Obamas god. his name is allah. ishmael. the son of a persian whore.
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srg
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srg
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Moderate' muslim is the cloak that hides the dagger of islam aimed at the heart of a christian. When they get close enough...they will plunge it to the hilt as mohammed commands. example: September 11, 2001
obama is a muslim
Nobama in Novemba
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srg
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srg
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hussien obama has made it abundantly clear that he is a muslim
changing his name from barry to barak.
h-u-s-s-i-e-n, a muslim moniker
turban on his head
sends muslim al qaudea thugs to south sea island paradise...deems American soldiers returning from war with muslims...ENEMIES OF THE STATE.You cannot be that stupid to call this muslim a christian.
Barak Hussien Obama has CLEARLY demonstrated his "faith"
He has left NO doubt he is a muslimThe only REAL question is:
What does this MUSLIM soldeir of islam intend to do with AMERICA?
ans: What would mohammed do?
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srg
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srg:
why does the name Hussein scare you so much? It's a very common name in the middle east. It's like Smith or Johnson in the US. You obviously use it when refering to Obama to try to make him sound scary. IT'S NOT WORKING! It makes you look desperate.
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srg
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Obama condemns HIMSELF. all this side show freak circus dancing and wrangling.
If you kill or advocate killing unborn children...if you have dumbed yourself down THAT low, beneath even animals who have enough sense to PROTECT thier unborn...
Then you have let go of God so completely that your mind has lost its ability to grasp reality. obama, and all democrats fit into this group. Your shame cannot BEAR the light of love. Thats why you scream so loudly when ever CHRIST is lifted up.
Did Christ say...Suffer the little ones to come unto me...so I can sever their arms and legs, peel off thier skin while they are stil alive???? right. good luck with obamas brand of christianity - 1 year ago
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srg
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srg
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so you see dullards. Not only is hussien obama a muslim. He hates god as much as you do. Just SAYING you're a christian...doesnt make you one.
Just because a cat has her kittens in the oven...that don't make em biscuits
The left wing hacks in the media say..."WHY...hussien obama goes to CHURCH...So HES a Christian! They say that not just because they are lock-step knee jerk liberals...but because they have no idea what a christain is.
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srg
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srg
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Mohammed never prophesied in his life. Mohammed was a general. he had the mantle of Prophet ...THRUST upon him NOT because of some spiritual gift or annointing from allah or his spiritual knowledge...he had NONE of those. Mohammed was "made" a prophet because as a general he killed ALL his enemies and that without mercy. He and subsequently all his followers since...built a mosque in the center of every village and town the conquered with the sword..KNOWING this history...what does the mosque at ground zero mean to you now.
Had mohammed NOT been victorious in war...you would never have heard of him. His ability to KILL is the heart soul very basis of islam. Is it any wonder the strap bombs on thier stupid asses and blow themselves to hell?
ANd what does ALLAH reward these martyrs with....???? SEX. whoopee! Now THATS a god! You kill children for me...and I will BLESS you with a sex maniacs dream...77 little girls who have NEVER HAD SEX.
So whats it gonna be achmed? streets of gold...or all the p**SY you can **** - 1 year ago
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srg
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You hate and fear God because he has rules. He requires honesty. He requires that you put others first. As you and hussien...are your own little gods...this puts you in direct conflict with even the very thought of an almighty God.
muslims love allah because allah allows them to kill thier enemies without mercy.
allah allows them to have sex with children...in saudi arabia this year muslim clerics "decreed" that it was lawful to have sex with 10 year old girls.
allah allows men to brutalize & enslave women.
allah encourages men to slaughter thier own daughters because they dont want to be muslims.allah just doesnt ALLOW these crimes and murders...He encourages it. He demands it. He rewards the shedding of innocent blood. Mohammed never prophesied in his life. Mohammed was a general. he had the mantle of Prophet ...THRUST upon him NOT because of some spiritual gift or annointing from allah or his spiritual knowledge...he had NONE of those. Mohammed was "made" a prophet because as a general he killed ALL his enemies and that without mercy. He and subsequently all his followers since...built a mosque in the center of every village and town the conquered with the sword..KNOWING this history...what does the mosque at ground zero mean to you now.
Had mohammed NOT been victorious in war...you would never have heard of him. His ability to KILL is the heart soul very basis of islam. Is it any wonder the strap bombs on thier stupid asses and blow themselves to hell?
ANd what does ALLAH reward these martyrs with....???? SEX. whoopee! Now THATS a god! You kill children for me...and I will BLESS you with a sex maniacs dream...77 little girls who have NEVER HAD SEX.
So whats it gonna be achmed? streets of gold...or all the p**SY you can ****Mohammed
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srg
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He is a madrasa-trained, soldier of islam. and if you have enough brain cells to be able to read this...then you damn well know he is. He hasnt hid it. The reason you support this america hating muslim...is the one thing you have in common...
your deep-seated unrelenting fear and hatred of God. God brings light. Light shines on your blood smeared faces from the millions of butchered children you have slain to hide your lusts. You share with hussien and millions of muslims unbridled hatred of God. Not only do you not acknowledge God, you cannot allow anyone else to do so. Your life, your perversion your unending worship of your SELF depends on it.
And so you vicously attack and suppress ANYONE who loves God. good luck with that.
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srg
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srg
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Beck didn't condemn barak hussiens christianity...mohammed did.
hussien obama uses the WORD christianity...
as a cloak that hides the daggar of islam that is aimed at the heart of jerusalem.how stupid are you to look at that turban on his head and still call him a christian. you are his fool. lil court jesters runnin about praising the emperors new close...
the rest of the THINKING WORLD can SEE his nasty naked muslim a** - 1 year ago
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srg
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barack hussien obama...his elementary school was a radical madrasa in indonesia. that turban he wore on his head...was that a CHRISTIAN turban? Hmmm. Ever see a muslim wearing a crucifix?
its' hussien. H-U-S-S-I-E-N...
born into a muslim family...raised in muslim schools...taught muslim religion...as an adult he changes his name from barry to barak....his cleric mutada jeremiah screams hatred from the pulpit just like adolph hitler...NOT GOD BLESS AMURICA>>>GOD DAMN AMURICA!!!
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srg
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srg
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Obamas christianity...is that like al gores 500,000 shares of occidental petroleum?
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bike10
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Glenn Beck the new Messiah of the GOP God's Only Party.
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Funny, the left only quotes scripture when it seems to support them. Perhaps Beck has a point. The path we are on is not working out very well. I can only assume that the opponents of Beck and 8/28 abhor the 10 Commandments (although regardless of religious bent I cannot find one thing negative about them), the Constitution, limited government & individual freedom. These are things that Beck speaks of. How is the opposite better?
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sounds real antichristy of him.
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If Obama banned teen sexual education in favor of abstinence only programs, followed by disbanding all government programs, banned gay marriage, followed by mandating Sunday church going for all Americans, followed by haphazardly bombing random Middle Eastern countries then Glenn Beck would say "Don't you see!!! That's what Hitler would do!"
And if he does anything LESS than that Glenn Beck is appalled at his lack of doing it!
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EmperorThan
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What's wrong with the backwards fools in this country?! SO OBSESSED with religion. GET OVER IT & MYOB.
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randallr01:
AMEN ...or I mean... well you know what I meant.
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glenn beck condems the air obama breathes.
wanna bet who beck thinks should lead this religious revival..................... - 1 year ago
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zakkred
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glenn beck cant possibly call himself a christian.he has n concept of this religion.and on top of that,mr.obama's religion has absolutley nothing to do with his leadership ability.this isnt a rally.its a glenn beck ego inflation session
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zakkred
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Dosen't the president have freedom of religion?
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bike10
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Just one long sermon filled with nothing but praise for Beck and ego.
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Why do people listen to this man? Why?
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Numbz
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Glen Beck's god is made of gold and is in the shape of his himself. What a fraud, like all televangelist hucksters. It's a good thing that religion is fading away. People should see the world through reason and evidence, not through the prison of dogma and obedience.
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I really wish people would start seeing past Glenn Beck's egomania. I can't stand listening to him...damned near every one of his talking points is about him and his views.
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Glenn Beck is obvioulsy in this for the money, or something because he does not manage to do anything but rant and rave. His arguments are not intelligent well thought out and well supported, but rather they are simple minded tirades that simply sput conservative ideals without any real reasons or facts to back anything. He is the perfect republican. If you yell and threaten long enough somone will cave, thats his strategy and thats the republican strategy.
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hunzedog
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pastor pleeeez !
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UtopianSky
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It's official- Glen Beck thinks he's god.
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UtopianSky
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UtopianSky:
Do you have any idea what Obama's Christianity is like?
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ibrake4rappers13:
No, and I don't care.
We have freedom of religion in this country, so all I care about are his political views and actions, not his religious beliefs. As long as he's not a Theocrat like Glen Beck, his religion is irrelevant.Plus, it's obvious Glen Beck has absolutely no clue what Obama's Christianity is like- heck, he spends half his time accusing him of being a Muslim.
Do you have any idea what Glen Beck's Christianity is like?
He's a Mormon.
Do you know anything about Mormonism?
They believe that Jesus came to America to talk to a lost tribe of Israel.
They believe that God had physical sex with Mary to conceive Jesus.
Mormonism is polytheistic- they believe God was once a physical being among many similar beings, had many wives, and many children.
God is simply the God of our planet- other planets have other Gods.They also believe that if you are a good Mormon man, when you die you get a planet of your own, and become a God there.
SO, ibrake4rappers13, what is YOUR Christianity like?
Get your head out of that hole in the ground, and realize idiots like him are manipulating you.
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UtopianSky
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UtopianSky:
So you don't care that he spent 20 years sitting Jerimiah Wright's racist church?
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JohnA
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JohnA:
Since he himself is not a racist, it's irrelevant.
And as far as I'm concerned, MOST churches are bigoted, yet for some reason we keep electing Christians to public office.
For a Christian, Obama is the most secular president we have ever had.
And why are YOU complaining about someone you think is a Muslim attending a Christian Church? Don't you think he was just trying to study Americans to learn how to overthrow them?
... and as a typical conservative, you ignored everything about Glen Beck's beliefs.
The Moron Church is also racist- they did not allow blacks in their priesthood/congregation until recently, and even then there are hardly any.Not that you care about racism, as long as it's not directed at whites.
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UtopianSky:
Oh well, Beck's a nut too. He's a Morman, way out there.
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JohnA
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UtopianSky
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JohnA:
Here is the difference-
Glen Beck is a nut.
Obama is not- his former minister was. - 1 year ago
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ibrake4rappers13:
Do you? All you know is it went to a church with a big mouth preacher. have you talked to the man read his works took the time to look at his religion? If so show me the when where why's and how's.
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JohnA:
What does the fact that Glenn Beck is Mormon, if in fact he is, have to do with anything. I have met many Mormons, some were quite friendly and quite stable, little too friendly actually almost every Mormon I have met has been excessively friendly and happy. But the point is just because he is Mormon does not make him crazy, what makes him crazy is he advocates the murder of illegal immigrants, he advocates allowing people to starve within our own country, oh and I don’t think he has checked single fact in his whole career.
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ibrake4rappers13:
Other than his attending church regularly with his family, public disclosure of his faith and his practice of said faith?
Do you not recall the big hassle over his Pastor making disparaging comments during his campaign that he subsequently had to distance himself from?
Further, what the hell does it matter what our leader chooses to practice for his faith, unless we're living in Iran?
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necrotized
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JohnA:
So you don't care that the comments made by the pastor were largely taken out of context and, even so, when those comments were made public (these were written by said pastor, not spoken during sermon IIRC), Obama distanced himself from the Pastor, stating he disagreed with those POLITICAL views expressed?
Doesn't ANYONE read anymore? We have a 24 hour news cycle, and accountability for articles and information going back years. It's called the Internet. Use it.
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necrotized
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littlwarrior:
He is mormon, he's professed such.
It's also interesting to note that, as late as the day this rally was held, religious groups were speaking out against the fact that he was Mormon, but representing traditional Christian/Catholic values.
Mormonism borrows much from Christianity, but even more from, say, Scientology.
It has to do with the fact that he misrepresents himself on a religious level in order to gain listeners, so he can tell them to call Goldline and buy their gold.
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necrotized:
I have no doubt that he is corrupt, and Mormon's values are not to far off from that of maistream christianity, it is different, no doubt and they have many differences in theology but that still doesnt change the fact that his religion is irrelavant, being mormon makes him no more or less corupt, he is simply corupt. Useing the fear of conservative americans to make money, and he is hurting others to make his profit so that is by far more disgusting. I just dont see how his being mormon changes anything. he is still a heartless pig with no real skill talent or inteligence.
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littlwarrior:
I agree whole-heartedly about his moral bankruptcy; the fact is that the Mormon belief structure, while sharing many common elements with Christianity, is not considered by any other faith outside of Mormonism as christianity.
Yet, rather than coming from a perspective of his Mormon faith, he paints himself as an every-day christian, even though both religions differ.
His being a mormon has nothing at all to do with his other policies, it does however make him more corrupt in his coloring of his faith to suit his political agenda.
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necrotized:
To those of us outside the christian faith altogether we see the mormons just as christian as every other sect of christianity, just with a bit more differences than the others. But I can see how other christians would reject them out of hand, they did add a whole new book to the one and only book. I get it, and how can he be coloring his faith, if he in fact out and out said he is mormon? Perhaps his personal beleifs are the same and is a misunderstanding of mormonism that colors the beleifs of others. Judging somone based on their religion is never a safe bet, rather the safe bet is to judge them on the facts presented. Beleif is never fact.
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littlwarrior
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littlwarrior:
I am well versed with the Mormon faith, and there are more differences than just having (two, not just one) holy book in addition to the Bible. The issue here is that while he has stated that he is, in fact, Mormon, he claims to represent Christianity as a whole, which simply is not the case.
The values he speaks for are, in this particular case, universal among the varied Christian denominations. The problem is in his misrepresentation of his faith as a political tool.
Remember, I never stated that he is a problem because he's Mormon, or that his faith as a Mormon is somehow responsible for his actions. I merely pointed out first that he was Mormon (you seemed confused about this fact in the comment I originally replied to) and to point out that while the faith itself does not necessarily portend ill intent, he doesn't discuss his being Mormon due to the backlash from other Christian communities which are at present his bread and butter.
As you yourself stated. "To those of us outside the christian faith altogether we see the mormons just as christian as every other sect of christianity, just with a bit more differences than the others."
This is precisely what he's counting on. He doesn't want people to make the distinction because within the Christian community, many don't consider him Christian at all.
"Judging somone based on their religion is never a safe bet, rather the safe bet is to judge them on the facts presented. Beleif is never fact."
Tell that to Glen Beck who said that we ALL need to 'return to Christian values.' I'm not judging him because he's Mormon, touts himself a Christian or otherwise. I judge him because, as a political figure, he should be held to a higher standard of personal responsibility and honesty due to his following and public exposure on this level.
"But the point is just because he is Mormon does not make him crazy, what makes him crazy is he advocates the murder of illegal immigrants, he advocates allowing people to starve within our own country, oh and I don’t think he has checked single fact in his whole career."
The problem is when you hide your crazy behind your religion, and get others to do the same.
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JohnA
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necrotized:
I read. I can also read between the lines. Not that there is any reason to in the case of the good Rev. Wright.
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littlwarrior:
I'm not a very religious person, just Mormons seems a little farther out than most. I've never heard him advocate murder or starvation though, but then I don't pay that much attention to him. I'll have to take your word on that.
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JohnA
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JohnA:
Yes, clearly your ability to assume implications and hidden meanings supercedes any necessity of fact or reference.
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JohnA
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necrotized:
I wouldn't go that far, but if we're still talking about the good Rev. Wright, no assumations are needed, his meanings are quite clear.
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JohnA
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UtopianSky:
I thought you supported separation of church and state?
Obama's christianity (Black Liberation Theology) REQUIRES him to redistribute white america's wealth.
In Obama's Christianity there are only two types of people in the world, the oppressed and the oppressors. according to his religion the only way the oppressors may be saved is if they give back what they took.
"And white poeple took alot from black people."
http://current.com/news/92550671_obamas-christianity-requires-him-to-redistribut...
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necrotized:
Even though he distanced himself, he once proclaimed that this was the man that led him to Christ. So obviously this man has had alot of influence on Obama's world view.
And the reason it matters is because he is seeking religious justification for redistributing wealth, which I might also add his religion requires it to racial redistribution of wealth.
Please watch the video I posted for Utopiansky for further info.
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ibrake4rappers13
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ibrake4rappers13:
At what point did Obama declare that his decision to re-distribute wealth (Do you raging idiots still somehow not remember that the stimulus packages originated with Bush, but yet it's Obama who's a communist) based on religious justification?
And, just because Reverand Wright had some pretty backwards ideas about politics, did not mean that his ministrations in Christianity were identical. Were you there? did you experience any of his teachings, or did you just listen to what Fox News said and ran with it?
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ibrake4rappers13:
Watched your video. There's nothing he describes here about Reverand Wright's political beliefs, he's generalizing about religious institutions and experiences, and when he discusses how Wright is a great example of what a black church has to offer, it could be inferred, based on what Obama has stated elsewhere, that he's discussing this in a religious context, not a political one.
Do some reading of your own: http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-rev-jeremiah-wrights...
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Here is Obama's current spiritual advisor Jim Wallis
Interviewer: "Are you then calling for the redistribution of wealth in society"?
Jim Wallis: "Absolutely, without any hesitation, thats what the gospel is all about.
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ibrake4rappers13:
Christian redistribution of wealth: Giving to the poor, the sick, the needy.
Your redistribution of wealth: Taking away your bling because Obama is a Nazi.
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necrotized:
Theres a difference between redistribution of wealth and charity.
And Obama's redistribution is more like; take from rich whites and give to poor black.
his religion is highly specific about this.
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Christian redistrubution of wealth: Mega churches, mercedes for the pastor, Gay hookers & Meth dealers, straight hookers & secret love children.
Our redistribution of wealth: Taxing the people who actually have all the money.
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ibrake4rappers13:
"Theres a difference between redistribution of wealth and charity."
That was exactly my point. In context, if you watch the whole interview, the discussion is about religious values, and the interviewee was discussing charity, and redistribution of wealth in a religious context, not in the way you're trying to spin it.
"And Obama's redistribution is more like; take from rich whites and give to poor black."
Ohh, sorry. This whole time I thought you might be a reasoned individual, I didn't realize you were a bigot. My bad.
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JohnA:
"reading between the lines" is a euphemism for "making things up".
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ibrake4rappers13:
I support Separation of Church and State.
I also support knowledge over ignorance.
First, you have no idea what "Black Liberation Theology" is and what they preach, because you just learned about it recently, and you learned it from right-wing pundits, and you blindly believe everything they say.
Second, you have no basis to assume that Obama believes in "Black Liberation Theology" other than the fact that some right-wing pundits told you, and you blindly believe everything they say.
Third, as I already said:
We have freedom of religion in this country, so all I care about are his political views and actions, not his religious beliefs. As long as he's not a Theocrat like Glen Beck, his religion is irrelevant.
For a Christian, Obama is the most secular president we have ever had.
http://current.com/news/92639939_barack-obama-closeted-non-believer-by-ali-a-riz...
And why are YOU complaining about someone you think is a Muslim attending a Christian Church? Don't you think he was just trying to study Americans to learn how to overthrow them?
And if you want to talk about dangerous religions- A huge percentage of right-wing Evangelical Christians, including Bush and Palin, believe the "End of Days" will occur within their lifetimes.
Do you want someone who thinks the Apocalypse is coming soon to have their hand on the big red button?
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ibrake4rappers13:
No, that's not Obama's redistribution.
That is what you have been brainwashed to think about Obama, because rich men want you to think that.
And you keep showing everyone here how much of a bleeting sheep you are.
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JohnA:
Well i never said they were not a little far out, some guy comes to me and says he found rocks in a feild only he can read im gonna tell him i found the same rocks and i could read them too and they said he had to go kill himself, prove that I am lying! ha ah gotta admit that is my fav south park episode of all time.
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