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Satanist Church Awarded Tax Exempt Designation

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A Satanist church located in the middle of the Bible Belt, enjoys an Oklahoma state listing as a tax exempt religious organization
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142 comments // Satanist Church Awarded Tax Exempt Designation

  • SuperGayJesus
  • donkeyfly69
  • ayipis
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      ayipis  
    • SuperGayJesus:

      not the best retort..really..if you want to come out of this better than the other guy you have to give an intelligent response..profanity might work around your dinner table but frown on most places

    • 1 year ago
  • ayipis
  • Stoneyroad
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      Stoneyroad  
    • ReverandG:

      Definition of Delusion (n)
      de·lu·sion \di-ˈlü-zhən, dē-\
      a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary; also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs
      ---------------------- So you believe in things you can't see ? --------------

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • UtopianSky
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      UtopianSky  
    • ReverandG:

      Technically, Satanists do not even believe Satan exists.
      They just took the word "satanism" to tick Christians off.

      And Christians believe Lucifer is divine.
      The word "Divine" does not just mean a monotheistic god- it also refers to lesser gods.
      Angels and Demons, are just another name for lesser gods.

      And Luciferians believe Lucifer is Divine; Lucifer was the son of God, Jesus.

    • 1 year ago
  • UtopianSky
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      UtopianSky  
    • ayipis:

      First, she said they have every right to believe what they want, she did not say anything about respect.

      Second, Catholics ARE Christians, there is no need to list them separately. Christianity has many divisions: Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Protestantism are the three big ones.

      Third, no one is taking away Christians freedom of religion.

    • 1 year ago
  • ReverandG
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      ReverandG  
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    • While the furor over the proposed mosque at Ground Zero has New York Gov. David Paterson offering public land as a peace offering, a more familiar symbol -- the cross -- is systematically being uprooted around the country.

      The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit ruled August 18 that placing crosses where Utah state troopers died violates the Establishment Clause.
      The 14 crosses, 12 feet tall and bearing a trooper's name, have been erected by the privately funded Utah Highway Patrol Association since 1968. Robert Kirby, a Salt Lake Tribune columnist and former cop, initiated it. He told Newsweek, "We wanted something instantly recognizable at 75 miles per hour, something that would say, 'This is hallowed ground.'"
      Not to a mirror-worshipping group, which sued in 2005. It lost in U.S. district court, which ruled in American Atheists Inc. v. Duncan that the cross is a symbol of "death and burial." The atheists appealed and persuaded the 10th Circuit to reverse. But a further appeal to the Supreme Court would bode well, given that swing vote Justice Anthony Kennedy, in Salazar v. Buono (2009) wrote:

      "The goal of avoiding governmental endorsement does not require eradication of all religious symbols in the public realm. A cross by the side of a public highway marking, for instance, the place where a state trooper perished need not be taken as a statement of governmental support for sectarian beliefs."

      Did the 10th's judges not read this majority opinion? Anyway, let's move on to the Buono case. In California's Mojave National Preserve, the site of a seven-foot, metal-pipe cross first erected 75 years ago by World War I veterans is bare.
      In 2001, the American Civil Liberties Union sued on behalf of Frank Buono, an ACLU member, atheist and former National Park Service employee living in Oregon. Mr. Buono said the cross offended him when he returned for visits. Congress authorized a transfer of the property to the Veterans of Foreign Wars. The case reached the Supreme Court, which reversed an appellate court's order and kicked it back to the lower court on April 28. Writing for the court majority (and the vast majority of Americans), Justice Kennedy said: "Here, one Latin cross in the desert evokes far more than religion. It evokes thousands of small crosses in foreign fields marking the graves of Americans who fell in battles, battles whose tragedies are compounded if the fallen are forgotten."
      Ten days later, someone cut down the cross, which had been covered by a plywood box lest Mr. Buono see it and start melting.
      When another cross appeared a few days later, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.'s Justice Department ordered the Park Service to remove it.
      Over in Monterey, California, someone in September 2009 tore down a 40-year-old cross on Del Monte Beach that commemorated the city's 200th birthday where Spanish explorer Don Gaspar de Portola and Father Juan Crespi landed. City officials voted to allow private funders to replace it, but the ACLU objected. After a year of legal threats, the cross will be rebuilt instead at the Diocese of Monterey's San Carlos Cemetery.
      "In truth, it is no defeat for Christianity," the Monterey Herald smirked in a March 2 editorial. "It is a victory for those twin freedoms -- freedom of religion and freedom from religion." Right. Dispatching a historic cross to a cemetery is nobody's defeat. Someone should tell the ACLU folks before they pop more champagne.
      The paper did admit that the vandal who cut down the cross won "a minor victory." What would a major victory look like? A torched church?
      "It is frustrating to realize that some Christians will truly feel that their faith is under attack even though that simply is not the case," the Herald insisted. "It is a defeat for no one and a victory for people who want to be allowed to believe as they wish."
      If that editorial writer were to have a colleague of similar ilk reporting on, say, a 16-1 pounding the Dodgers delivered to the San Francisco Giants, we might read: "It is frustrating to realize that some Giants fans will truly feel that their team lost. It is a defeat for no one. They should believe they were all winners."
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      I Think this picture sums it up pretty well.

    • 1 year ago
  • DogBoy
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      DogBoy  
    • ReverandG:

      Honoring our fallen warriors should never be an issue and it should never be frowned on or put on public trial. These are folks put their lives on line for us wretched citizens. I think these are dishonorable times. What friends and families chose to do to remember and honor the deeds of their fellow men is commendable.
      Satan has made religion a substitute for reality.

    • 1 year ago
  • SuperGayJesus
  • ReverandG
  • CalPal
  • SuperGayJesus
  • littlwarrior
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      littlwarrior  
    • SuperGayJesus:

      From what I understand of the Jewish faith, they dont even beleive satan is evil. they see him as more of a heavenly prosecutor not the enemy of all. there are also those in the christian that beleive that satan was never an angel at all but rather a creation of god meant to give humans choice, he is not inherantly evil merly the other side of the coin.

    • 1 year ago
  • littlwarrior
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      littlwarrior  
    • ReverandG:

      Wrong about what the persian bit, or about the satan worshipers just doing it for the attention. Becuase from my experince with worshipers of satan it is they are just misunderstood folk who have turned to satanism as a way to be different, to be what they think is cool and scary.

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • div
  • UtopianSky
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      UtopianSky  
    • littlwarrior:

      Correct- you can see that in the book of Job, where the Devil acts according to God, and as God's subject- torturing Job for God to evaluate the strength of his faith.

      Since we are on the topic of the devil, another interpretation is Gnostic Luciferianism.

      They believe Lucifer was good and kind, while God was an evil, mean tyrannical being who created Adam and Eve to be ignorant, and blindly worship him.

      Lucifer felt pity on them, so sneaked into Eden as a snake, to get them to learn Good and Evil so they could see God for what he truly was.

      This, of course, enraged the evil God, so he tortured humanity for thousands of years.

      Lucifer eventually said "Please stop torturing them because of what I did! Let me pay the price!"

      So, Lucifer fell from heaven by being born in human form.

      Amongst the humans, he taught peace and love- but at God's behest, the humans killed him, and his sacrifice meant God would stop punishing humanity for original sin.

      So, Lucifer, the son of God, was Jesus.

      Their belief fits the Bible a lot more than modern Christianity does.

    • 1 year ago
  • SuperGayJesus
  • FoosMaster
  • artemis6
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • SuperGayJesus:

      +^d Not everyone has heard that bit of lore ! Lucifer sort of has overtones of that lover who becomes jealous of the kids. ( The ol' Baptists don't spend a hell of a lot of time with analysis of that particular aspect )

    • 1 year ago
  • DefKid
    • +5
      DefKid  

    • Freedom of Religion. Until they start sacrificing animals or kids I have no beef. Call me when a cheeba church gets recognized.

    • 1 year ago
  • Deltone
  • DogBoy
  • DefKid
  • DogBoy
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      DogBoy  

    • Gees that is an obvious church of Satan that is for sure. However I think there are milder more subtle forms of anti Christ like behaviors going on in many of the other, more accepted, churches of God. The apostate hides in obvious places.

      "The people of Laodicea wouldn't know anything about that because they were phonies. They were false and faithless. In contrast, Christ is the true witness. The false Christian says, "I'm a Christian; I believe that Christ was a wonderful example. But I don't believe He was God." Paul says, "... If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed" (Gal. 1:9). God does not tolerate any emasculation of the personality and deity of Jesus Christ. He is the faithful and true witness. He witnesses to God about man, and witnesses to man about God. Jesus Christ sees everything that ever happens."
      "Satan has made religion a substitute for reality."

    • 1 year ago
  • ReverandG
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      ReverandG  
    • DogBoy:

      Matthew 12:31-32
      And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

    • 1 year ago
  • Stoneyroad
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      Stoneyroad  
    • ReverandG:

      Your God would have me burn in hell, and be tortured for eternity for saying, -
      just once - "he is a make believe daddy figure for the feeble minded."

      But God would forgive someone who spent a lifetime raping and killing babys as long as he said - just once - "I'm sorry"

      People who believe that this is how our supreme creator judges us should have to pay a stupid tax.

    • 1 year ago
  • fun_size
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      fun_size  
    • Stoneyroad:

      And people wonder why the US is so dumb. As far as developed nations go its still one of the most religious. And what is the first rule of Christianity? Never question the word of God. It creates a close-minded narrow vision of the world in which people never strive to understand the world around them. The answer is always "because God wants it to be like that".

    • 1 year ago
  • DogBoy
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      DogBoy  
    • ReverandG:

      Live life without reservation and fight without fear
      For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the
      rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places

    • 1 year ago
  • littlwarrior
    • +5
      littlwarrior  

    • Well so long as they dont go breaking the law it is their religous right. First time a virgin goes missing though there will be a mob with pitchforks and torches.

    • 1 year ago
  • timetide
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      timetide  
    • littlwarrior:

      you know, I've always had this vauge feeling that people misinterpreted that text and they're not suppose to the nearest virgin but the largest non-virgin they could find :)

    • 1 year ago
  • littlwarrior
  • Jeremy_Benson
  • littlwarrior
  • remanns
  • toyotabedzrock
  • ReverandG
  • donkeyfly69
  • fun_size
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