Obama: "We cannot allow the corporate takeover of our democracy"

This is probally the dumbest thing I have read on Current ever. Thanks Aalias. lol

Amen Sis. U put that really well. I've learned to pretty much tune them all out. I think they are all a bunch of BSers, and the polls they keep touting are wrong. That's Corporate manipulation for u. I think the anti-Nixon Silent Majority will pull another fast one on the Corporate Media Manipulators.

And there are advancements in sustainable energy that will create a new paradigm shift away from DEAD technologies. The tombstone is all but written. Its here Sis, it here. Its called Bloomenergy.

Hey sarah-honea you and I were both remembering Nixon's treachery. Repugs, Tea Baggers, and Blue Dogs are stacking every court bench in the US of America with their $$$$$$$, with the Supreme Court their ultimate goal. If they can buy off the court system, then anything Corporate governance thinks is OK will be OK, at least for them. The only thing is, they will be lying to themselves.

As a person with out a party affiliation I never endorse one schmuck over another, Looking a Malkin,Angle and their Ilk, i do not want these Beer Hall Putschters in Congress...I do not like the DNC, Right now there are too few choices that can be had on such short notice.

But yes, I agree, Unless the Corpratists can guide our country into a textbook or amalgamated Fascist State...Fear and all of the genocidal trappings. There plans will indeed backfire.

true.

I agree. Obama seems to be a cautious and calculating centrist. That may be the qualification that got him elected CEO of Corporation America.
Unfortunately, our times call for more courageous, and frankly, radical actions, to correct the long toxic stranglehold the military industrial complex and the monopolistic financial system overlords have had on the United States for the last fifty years.
The tricky problem is of course that the reactionary regime in waiting makes its hay out of turmoil. They will exploit every attempt Obama makes to address the problems, including the dissatisfaction of nominal supporters who are angry he hasn't moved forward forcefully enough. They won't miss a trick to unseat him or neutralize him and put themselves back in government power again to match the economic fiefdom they already control.

Couldn't have said it better though you left some things un-said or un-recognized. Do you know what they are? Small persistent efforts, bending like a reed moved by river and wind, and yet still alive, and growing, and thriving.

Bill Clinton was one of the last Presidents to give a balance budget or as close as we have been.

really? worse than bush or nixon huh

Calling him Hussein just makes you look dumb.

What a piece of work U r galwaydude. Maybe u should stick your head up Cheney's ...
Oh, and jump off a cliff.

BIG TIME!

That is his middle name is it not? I think he is a HORRIBLE President, but to call him the worst in History is crazy. At this point I think W. & Lincoln are neck and neck.

not to mention he is literaly two years in.even bush didnt get critiqued as to wether his administration was beneficial or detrimental in the first two years.

Yes it is his MIDDLE name, so why would anyone use it by itself to call out a person. The only reason people use his middle name is because it sounds "unamerican" and that's the way they want it to be.

I've never seen anyone who's neutral or pro Obama simply call him "Hussein." I'd even bet that the majority of those who call him Hussein think he's a Muslim.

Ok, this is a little hard for me to right because I don't really like Obama myself, but the fact is, rhetoric like this does absolutely nothing to further any kind of conservative cause. Talking about his teleprompter and other such things make it seem like you've got no real facts to back up your dislike for him. Instead of saying stuff like that, just do a little research and find some solid facts and stats about what his policies do to hurt this country (trust be, it's easy to find) and make your case using those. No one is going to have a change of heart because of what you're saying, and that's what you want right? People believe things because they become convinced by evidence, not because of talking about "shifty-eyes" or anything else superficial like that. In a debate like this, facts trump sensationalism every time.

First off, I resent being termed Conservative. While you may not agree with me, why the slander? I despise religion and politics, while I view politics as a necessary evil. Current invites opinions from everyone, and my post is just that: my opinion. Hussein lies to our face everyday, while his eyes dart back and forth reading his writer's drivel. If you want facts off my dislike, open your eyes and look at the state of America. (when i mention a politician. i am alluding to their circle of influence, not the person.)

i dont run in conservative circles despite being surrounded by them, but on here it seems aside from the occasional hellnwait type, conservatives are just junior high name callers.

Agreed, I do tend to be fairly conservative on economic stuff, but I always try to back it up with some facts or data or at least some examples rather than just name calling.
On the other hand, I've seen some libs say some pretty nasty and unnecessary stuff, so there's guilt on both sides for sure. But yeah, I say if both sides stick to facts people of all persuasions will be SO much more receptive.

excellent point for ponderance.i never took in to account that proportionaly thier are probably more libs than conservatives so the name calling snark is highlighted on the right only cuz left positions appear more mixed.it is entirely possible that the name callers are actually even but it would seem askewed as so few conservative voices are present in comparison to liberal ones.

Ok, I apologize for terming you a Conservative. I shall henceforth simply call you "someone who does not seem to like Pres. Obama". All that aside, I wasn't slandering, I was actually trying to help. You seem genuinely passionate about pointing out the state of affairs currently (as well they should be pointed out) my only point was that in my experience people generally aren't persuaded by talk of peoples eyes (beady and shifty though they may be) or use of a teleprompter. What I've found is just that when people hear someone say things like that (or other stuff like going along with the whole Birther thing or on the left side saying there's a vast right wing conspiracy or that FEMA is trying to kill of minorities or something) they start thinking "oh, well this is just another guy who doesn't know the issues and has to resort go glorified name calling" and then they tune out of anything else (legitimate or not) that the person is saying.
I don't want that to happen to you. You seem genuinely passionate and you have a right to be heard, I was merely trying to give some constructive criticism on how to get more people to listen to you. I'm truly sorry if that offended you in any way.

That's a great point! I wish current would do a little informal poll and ask everybody in general what side of the political spectrum they lean toward and then post the results....it would be extremely interesting to say the least!

I wish u would find the door... and don't let it hit u on the butt on the way out, racist pig. Sorry, I don't mean to insult pigs. They are actually smarter than u.

I like the terms Repugs and Tea Baggers to describe the un-honorable rabble that have been spouting copious amounts of LIES on our heads from above. These are more honest names for them.

What? ;-)

Racist pig uh? The very fact that your mind goes to race and mentions it, reveals that you are indeed the racist. I invite you, who flits around the threads agreeing with venomous post of others, to point out my alledged racist comments. I attempt to never mention race, for it has no bearing on the person or problem to me.

No u just act it out in your deeds, right?

Yes, and the results probably wouldn't be too accurate because polls are a waste of time. People who respond to polls often lie just to throw the pollsters for a loop now and then. Corporate Media Manipulators deserve to be thrown for a loop now and then.

Yes, in public I am courteous and pleasant to everyone I meet regardless. Online as well, or I try at least. If you want to read me as a racist fine, although undeserved. If a callous person dislikes me, by the mechanics of Philosophy that is a good thing.

Sorry thetrimsmith, your original comments were not courteous or pleasant. I think u have too high of an opinion of your self. They were quite racist in their implication and use. No apology here dude.

They were directed at, what I consider to be, a bloated ineffecient government. (...and yes I indulged in some abrasiveness with the name choice, guilty. racist absolutly not) I feel that America is steps away from disaster, both civil and ecological. Politicians and the Wealthy (worldwide) have looted us and created financial disarray for the middle and lower class. Then Obama has the nerve to say those words, giving his election antics.

I hear the frustration you feel though I think the anger from it is misdirected, and if you did not intend to sound like a racist, then do not make racist sounding comments. Error forgiven. I am not perfect either, no one is, or rather as I like to say, we are all perfectly imperfect. Peace?

If OUR government is bloated, it is because we spend 59% of OUR budget on systems of violence, aggression, and military might all because of Bush, not President Obama. If OUR government is inefficient it is because Repugs and Teabaggers are holding up the changes we need. Dems are not much better but most of them are at least really trying though some lie just like Repugs, and Tea Baggers are just terribly misguided angry people.

Give President Obama a break. Don't you deserve a break?

right, if only

repugs is nice, tea baggers is just sad.its like picking on the special kid, they dont know any better, but they have earned it none the less.

does refering to our president my his uniquely arab or islam based middle name not smack of racism? is that endevour not meant to portray him in a specific manor?
we called bush w only to differentiate bush jr from senior without downgrading him with a junior moniker.i dont recall what regans middle name is, or what clinton's middle name is, but you guys seem extremely fixating on obama's middle name.
it is overtly racist to refer to obama soley by his middle name as no other leader has been subject to this ever except the black one.it stands alone as a matter of innequality independant of its intentions.speaking of intentions those who are refeing to him as "hussien" are more often than not in the same breathe, or in a few breathes removed condeming islam so it isnt rocket science to put them together in terms of intent.

if the president was named david shlomo kaplan, and his detractors chose to refer to him as shlomo it would be antisemitism.to think islam is somehow worthy of this treatment is racist, just as the former would be a form of antisemitism.

i dont tke the time to point the finger unless it is truly earned, and your stuff is under the rug style, but remember no one thinks they are racist despite being such.

Most of the Jerks that are driving the Tea Baggers know what they are doing and don't care that they are hurting themselves and everyone else in the country. That is what is really sad. It is like their only task in life is to make life more miserable for everyone. I haven't figured out why it is necessary yet. It does no compute.

Are you implying that somehow Barack is less muslim that Hussein? Really? I choose to be abrasive with the use of Hussein, because during the election it was said that Obama's camp frowned on the use of that name. No race, his name is what it is. (personal question: does you name advocate the legalization of crack cocaine? if so, that explains alot about your anger toward people.)

Neither of us deserve a break, unfortunatly. Our country is in peril, I see the Office of the President continuing to allow the Corporate raiding of our country's coffers. I feel that Fascism is incroaching on the average American's financial and physical freedom. As people cry: change-yes we can-racism-eat at Hooters-drink Starbuck's coffe-shop at Wal mart. Large corporations and politicians are our enemies, my friend, not we two. Peace indeed, thanks for the challenge of the intellect your debate provided.

you cant state obama lies to our face under the guise of opinion.
either you suspect he may be lying wich is an opinion.
or you are stating he is lying wich is presentation of fact.

it seems simple to me.
as a result of our government being representative of the people, and the people are becoming more and more progressive, the old guard who benefited from conservatism is getting screwed by those who they had previously had in thier pockets.
once upon a time the republicans could play the electorate and also appease thier corperate owners, but our culture is becoming such that those corperate interests are so far removed from the will of the people that politicians (regardless of party) cant both gain office and appease thier big donors.

the tea party is big oil, and insurance companies last stand in trying to secure thier greed.if you notice all the endevours that the tea party glom on to are those that have deep pockets and little to no advertising overhead.the millions that mcdonalds or disney has to spend every year to keep us buying thier product, medical insurance companies and oil companies dont need to spend.despite having revenue to dedicate to swaying public opinion in thier favor they neednt do it to survive.we still get sick we still drive cars regardless.they could spend millions on radio and television advertisements, or spend it directly in community organizing, hergo tea fuckers.

i mean even in the 70's when gas lines were a real thing, this drill baby drill shit wasnt happening cuz at the end of the day we knew it wouldnt make our lives better, just the oil companies, and the oil companies had republicans doing the heavy lifting.now that green is overwhelmingly understood as a matter of progress politicians cant go the way of oil and get votes.

pity the tea party as they know not what they do, but you bet your ass freedom works and so forth are making bank off thier ignorance.dont forget thier have always been black republicans who voted against thier own interest, and liberal zionists who vote against thier interest in israel.
we have no shortage of sheep easily scared into passion and swayed into voting against themselves.
this borders on conspiracy theory stuff, but takes no leaps of immagination so take it as you will.

I will agree with you. If I strongly believe every politician (including Obama) financially benefit from their positions through Large Corporation's monetary inticements on policies and bills, that doesn't make it fact.

in actuality wether or not barak is or is not less muslim a name than hussien is a matter of what ever for arab socialogists and anthropologists to work out.in our contemperary social conciousness hussien is a unilateral negative name envoking islam as an evil entity.im not going to go in to the nuance of it, but it isnt really a matter of subtext, we all know this, especialy with almost 20 years of demonizing saddam hussien, with no other hussiens being presented as a positive.

obamas camp frowned on the use of hussien for a wealth of valid reasons, from the associative implications it creates that have nothing to do with anything at hand, to the inequity of this candidate being refered to by a middle name while no others are.i watched the campaign fairly intensively as it was fantastic theater, and i couldnt tell you mccains middle name.two years of this national discussion over who should be the next president and i dot now mccains middle name or palins or even hillary's.

the screen name is indicitive of a twisted sense of humor not any policy desire.i dont see myself as espousing anger any more than anyone else.i have a sliding scale of rightiousness just like any one else, and while i know i have anger issues i need to adress in my personal life i dont think i espouse them here.im sorry if you read my tone as an angry one as i try hard not to be that way.conviction can be interpreted as anger in written form but it is not my intent usualy.i mean sometimes im out right wicked, but i dont think i have been so to you.if you felt that way i am truly sorry.if you are needling and name calling under the guise of descency than fuck you:).
i think that is reasonable and not hatefull or excessively angry.

does the american citizenry not hold a greater responsability to this than the president.
ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.
we cant keep dumping our hard earned money into the pockets of corperate america, and then complain our leaders arent doing thier part.
its like when people bash wallmart for being this greedy monster, and then shop there for the great deals.every cent they get is an affirmation of thier endevours.we can talk till we are blue in the face, but our actions speak louder.
the pres is supposed to represent the will of the people right?
if the people arent actively working against corperate greed but feeding it, and the president is attacking corperations it is a failure on the presidents part.he is following the will of the people to the letter as we sacrifice more and more autonomy each generation in favor of corperate benefits like free give aways and name brand clothing at half price.
i mean what ever was wrong with osh'kosh.

Lol, if our roles were reversed in this debate: Your post would be my words to the T! Kudos.

aint that the irony of it

true.

so now what?

good points voyager, and I get so mad about some of this other crap that I forget that these asshole corporations are working overtime to make Obama look like a failure.
Let me just add to your list the fact that Blue Cross/Blue Shield got something like a 14% rate hike post insurance reform....people are slowly but surely being squeezed.

Do you own a business? I do, and if you do you'd know EXACTLY why those companies are sitting on their money: because they're unsure of where this economy is going to go and they want a cushion if things take a turn for the worse again. You seriously think there's some right wing corporate conspiracy for businesses to not spend money just to make the economy worse and make the dems look bad? Business is ALL about making and preserving wealth and the fact is, with the way the economy looks right now, it's simply unwise for most businesses to spend when there's a very real danger of drastically lower income in the future. Think about it, would you go out and buy a new car while there are pay cuts happening at your job and you're not sure if your income will be stable? Of course not. Business works exactly the same way. It's not out of hatred for Obama, it's out of common sense.

you just outlined how corperations are in error.we all sit on money as we all dont know what is coming down the pike.if those who have the money arent made to relinquish it to those who do not (ie regulations) stagnant our economy stays.
at least the common man will from time to time spend, they will not with out a return.

The Small Medium Business space has and still is hit very hard by our down economy, especially retail. These are very precarious times for small and medium businesses. The I.T. industry seems to be handling it through consolidation and acquisition's to move into more vertical spaces and emerging technologies. I work in the technology spaces and the only permanent thing about my business is change.It can get pretty stressful just trying to maintain the skills to hold on to a job.

Yeah I think we agree on their motivation, but my opinion is that at least for right now, sitting on their money is the only wise course of action they have. I don't feel like that makes them in error as you do simply because I feel that (at least this is my motivation in my business) now is a time to weather out this economic storm which has a substantial probability of getting worse.
Where I think we differ is that you feel like those who have the money should be made to relinquish it...I feel like that's not fair. Why do you ask me to relinquish money that I worked hard for and that's the only thing that's going sustain my business until things pick up?
Let me put it to you this way: say there's a beggar on the street; is it my right to give him money if I choose? Of course it is. Now let's say I'm walking down the street with my friend and we see the same beggar. Is it my right to threaten him under penalty to give some of his own money to the beggar? One might say that he should give money freely, but of course it's not my right to force him to do so. Then, having reached those deductions: is it right that the government demand the same thing? I say it's not. If you say it is, then why? And how is it different from the second situation I made up?

I hear you on that brother. And that's exactly why I was saying that the only prudent thing for businesses to do is to save now until things pick up. Otherwise if things do get worse AND they've spent all their money, what's gonna happen? They've got no savings to fall back on....say hello to more consolidation and layoffs.

i say people should be made to relinquish money cuz if not forced we wouldnt give.i mean if taxes became optional think about it.i mean ya got people who think slumming it is staying at a 3 star hotel.they have more than enough but dont recognize that the life style they live is in severe disproportion to others.if they arent forced through regulation to give money, how many people on food stamps would be fed.they would be left to starve.not because these rich people are bastards or evil or anything like that, but simply as human beings we are involved with ourselves.one day a rich person could simply say fuck it i dont feel like dealing with starving people today, on another feel really guilty about it.in the global economy we are at the top, and how many of us could afford to give money that would save lives but we choose 7 dollar coffees instead.we choose to over pay for a trendy coffee experience instead of sending that money to places where 7 dollars is a weeks paycheck.when lives are literaly on the line we say fuck it more often than let me do the right thing with my money.

at the end of the day it is either regualtions that forces us to relinquish wealth, or pitchforks and torch's.or in contemperary terms planes in to buildings, cuz people living comfortable life dont do that, i dont care what religion or culture you are.osama's millionair ass wont be getting martyred anytime soon, but no shortage of peasants willing to die for allah.

thats the humanatarian reason but im too high and will attack you with the pragamatic stuff another time.good food for thought though

We all have to hang in there until the Repugs relinquish their control of the Senate through the Filibuster. That will happen when We, The People realize that Repugs and Teabaggers offer nothing but Fear, Greed, and Hate, which is what got US where we are currently situated.

Hey man, your humanitarian reasoning is spot on and there's literally not one thing I disagree with you about except that the relinquishment should be forced. I completely agree that we live in an extremely privileged society where giving is the exception when it should be the norm.
The reasons that I have for not having mandatory relinquishment (at least with our current form of government and economy) are these:
1) It has the potential to create massive job loss. With the company I run, if I hadn't been saving money wherever I could and being frugal when I do spend I would have to have laid off maybe 3 people by now. That's 20% of my workforce. If I have to let those people go, not only are they out of work in a tough economy where they now have to collect welfare (that I've been force to relinquish/contribute to) which creates a vicious cycle (more people on welfare=more revenue the gov't must collect from me=more people I have to lay off because I can't save) but ALSO I now have 20% less workforce which means 20% less jobs I can do, which means I might even have to lay off more people! It's a cycle I don't want to get in to.
2) I feel like government welfare programs (not just welfare itself, but any helpful program like that) has the potential to be run SO much more efficiently than it is now. Think of all the stories we hear every year about gov't waste and corruption and fraud in these programs...I know it'll never be perfect, but they have the potential to make so much more of an impact than they currently do because of the waste. All I ask is that they fix the leaks before they reach in to my pocket for more.
3) Did you that people who identify as conservatives actually give more to charity than liberals do? Its true! By about 30% actually! It sounds crazy, but it's true. You'd think that the party who champions the underdog and the cause of the little guy would be more prone to giving, but for some reason that's not the case. The reason I bring that up is because I feel like there absolutely is a "giving spirit" for lack of a better term in America, and that mandatory relinquishment of money is going to dampen that. A lot. There's a comparison they did a while ago (can't find it now but I'll keep looking) that compared taz rates to rates of giving and the correlation was not only clear, it was shocking! Giving trended down SO heavily when taxes went up even a little bit it was mind blowing. So overall, I'd pick letting individuals direct their charitable giving where they see fit rather than mandating it goes to a wasteful government.
4) Last point I promise. The people you're talking about taxing (businesses) are owned by people like me. My business (for your taxation purposes) gets treated like it's me. So think about this: when some of our politicians come along and say "we're gonna increase taxes but don't worry! It's only gonna be on the super rich making over $250k per year!" Well...that's me! "But wait" you say! If you're making over $250k, why do you care if you get taxed a little more?? Well, I wouldn't...if I saw even a minuscule amount of that money. That $250k is what my BUSINESS made in a year. Not me. But because of how our crappy tax system is set up, they count it as me earning it. Out of that $250k I might see $50-60k on a decent year. The rest of it...ALL the rest of it, gets re-invested back in to my business and a little bit gets put away in the bank so that when the economy is like it is now, I don't have to fire people. If further taxation cuts in to that, you know what happens? I can't reinvest in my business, therefor I can't continue to make the income to pay my employees salaries and I have to lay people off, OR I have to cut back on saving, pray to whatever gods I can think of that the economy doesn't get bad, and then when it does (like now) I have to let people go.
Either way the result is the same. I can't do jobs, I have to let people go. Realistically, the small business tax bracket that's always proposed to be taxed is EXACTLY where taxes shouldn't fall.
Wow...that was about the most I've ever typed on here! I'm looking forward to responses.

VoyagerFilms, that is exactly s happening. Thank you. Repugs and Teabaggers are not America, thankfully, at least not yet.

shhhh dont tell them.they are defeating themselves like the left did to themselves over the last 20 yrs.if you tip them off and the right fringe comes back to the republican party they will have the votes they need.as long as the nuts are all tea party, the republican candidates get only so many votes, and the left's combined votes will tromp them.shhhh dont give em a heads up.

at the end of the day dick army and freedom works are heloing the left agenda by dividing the right.

lol i know we got something going here.
you are completely right our safety net programs are run in a sattalite fashion wich leaves it rife with corruption.i have literaly seen fist hand woman having kids based on the notion if they have enough, they get x amount of dollars from the government via welfare.but at the same time we cant let other matters that pertain to that flaw languish.it would be like not having any soldiers until we figre out how to defend ourselves with out killing others.while we are working on that, our enemies would be fucking us up from lack of order on our end defensively.the sytem is retardedly backwards but also has to be actively engaged, kind of like how we pay tax's every year despite the tax code never really making sense.every year it changes a little, but it is never ahead of the curve.

i understand, believe me i do, the purity in living in accordance to your labors.in a perfect world we would all live lifes that directly reflect our efforts.work hard get rich, half ass it and bearly get by, not work and not have money.it would be nice, but it isnt possible in our capitalist system for too many reasons to go into now (it would divert the whole dialogue).

the thing is thought you being over the 250k mark (kudos to you by the way) does mean you would be adversely effected by these tax initiatives, but you have to look at the big picture.thier are basic standards of living you enjoy and dont recognize others dont that are essentials.i also enjoy a standard of living that many dont in my own regard.that is the need for regulation so that you arent eating steak while im eathing burgers and others are eating only rice.

the beauty of regulation is that is exists with in the framework of our democracy, meaning it is representative of the people, including you.yes any time the government has its hands in something the potential for tyrany of all sorts exists, but we get to point it out and refine it until the tyranical element is removed.i mean in my grandfathers day being a soldier aka government property meant a tattoo got ya court marshalled, later it was lesser punishment, and now not even a thing really.we can work back government overstepping its boundries, but first we have to let them take the step.cuz at the end of the day wether its zealots fucking with the roman empire, or peasants revolting against monarchies, or us unified in civil dissobediance our will shall be met.

in the interum as america is the great experiment in freedom and democracy we have to prove a free society can manage itself in all regards better that say a theocracy or monarchy.if we dont take care of all of us, we have failed.

Once again, I really agree with everything you're saying, I guess it really all comes down to the fact that we live in a much less than ideal world and there is certainly room for abuse and tyranny in both ways. You provide excellent food for thought, and while I don't thing your solution is perfect, I freely admit that mine isn't either. But I guess what we've really got to take out of all this is that something needs to be done, and that it's our responsibility to figure out what works and to do it!

hey if either of us figured it out, we would be on crossfire or something.i dont suppose my ideas are even close to perfect, just acknowledgement of certain elements, that i think are often overlooked.at the end of the day i dont know shit about economics, and im starting to think no one else really does either.it seems we have been winging it in a very throw it to the wall and see what sticks kind of way.

Agreed man. Actually no...we'd make it on to Crossfire AND The Situation Room haha

There has to be a vision for the future...consider whether those who are holding on to their money are not just very insecure about the future...consider that the future is all about alternative energy solutions, then consider whether the fossil fuel magnates aren't doing their damnedest to hold onto what they spent their lives building up...THE FOSSIL FUEL EMPIRE...flanked by all of the supporting systems that they sustain, i.e. the auto industry, military industrial products, etc...

The vision for the future, if by no other means, will be built by the up-and-coming entrepreneurs who design and build that vision by the sweat of their brows...by the influence of words, dreams and ideas that make perfect sense...proponents for peace and a non-hostile ideology...

It would seem, though, that the EMPIRE will not fall unless all of the dominos fall together. Unless, of course, an incredible age of transition forces them to bend to logic and reason, without being won in a WAR...

we have no mirror and think our shit dont stink.most of us dont care how we are viewed and i think it shows.

yeah but the french are major allies with us, like an older brother who always downgrades your efforts.they still love us at the end of the day, just are bitchy about it.

republicans are what went wrong. they used to be a party that stood on principle, now all they stand for is corporatism

Greedy politicians holding hands with greedy corporations

$F$E$A$R$

It is Repugs and Tea Baggers like you that are holding this country back, so sense you are loathe to look inside your self, we'll hold the mirror for you.

i thought the republicans were all about not relying on anyone else for survival and creating jobs not looking for them.if they want to work all they have to to is move to arizona and take the jobs vacated by the illegals no?or just start a business right?

really canada and australia arent looking better right now to ya?

muslims dont hate us, fanatical morons who have thier faith exploited by wanna be politicians do.by the way they hate you a shitload more than us.

Please don't say that "the Muslims hate" US. It is simply not true!

and who is the media source that cultivates the idea that we are a christian nation first and a jewish nation second despite us having a muslim (hard working peacefull) population that more than doubles jews.the propaganda thickens.

would you rather instead of government take over of banks and gm, they just fail and dissapear, cuz that was the alternative.i mean if you have another solution im sure we would all be tickled pink to hear it.
personaly i would like to have seen all the upper management sell thier homes (plural as they arent living in just one residence) and actualy function as if they were truly invested in thier endevours.being as thier personal comfort supercededs thier business's government stepped in to fix what they were too selfish to adress.

No truer words could be spoken.

If one looks deeper than the superficial lies and manipulations of the Nay Sayers and hacks, one will find that much of what the President has accomplished has been for the better. It is not the best. The Repugs and Teabaggers have seen to that. Do not let them determine what you think or believe. They are not worthy of influencing you in that way.

i agree to obamas efforts, but i dont think the tea fuckers have really influenced anything other than tabloid tv.they havent stopped any legislation or created any.i just think he can only do so much, and we have more problems than any one administration can fix.
he got the budget semi balanced, but with a bad economy cant do any better than that.
he is descaling our military endevours wich is saving lives and money.
he is creating a non-hyperbole based tone to his office wich we havent seen since before ww2.
he has built the bridge to other cultures that future leaders will hopefully one day use in peace.
(shhh and he has stacked th deck as to insure gay marraige via supreme court justices)

but anything more than that would be overstepping his bounds going from democratic leader into despot.he may not be perfect, but given the circumstances he is faced with he has done all that can be done.now if he just doesnt fuck up for two years lol.

Once you bend, it's easy to break