Obama: "We cannot allow the corporate takeover of our democracy"

I recognize your analogy, but what other options do we--or does he--have?

"Unless one bends, one shall surely break." An apropos proverb.

You and freecrack speak Truth to Lies. Stand tall.

wow that is rare
thank you

Much humbly obliged; thank you.

How are you not embarrassed by your comments? Do you even know what you're talking about? Where do you get your information? What happened to your girlfriends teeth? Did you punch her? What was the last grade you passed? 6th grade? 5th? I've been following your comments, and most of them are unintelligible. You can't focus your thoughts and convey them in a way that makes sense. My grammar and spelling were better in 6th grade than yours are presently. Why are you commenting? Nobody listens to you. You have nothing of substance to contribute. I love it when dipshits like you try to sound intellectual. GO. THE. HELL. AWAY.

What a jerk. Do you just do this for the fun of being a jerk? What do you gain from this BS attitude you carry around?

highschool economics much?
he used our money, just as every leader does (who paid for bush's two wars?) in the pressumed interest of the collective.as we are a nation that is for better or worse (i say the latter) relient on corperate stability, he needed to bail them out to not have to bail us out.

how come trickle down economics works when republicans use it as a philosophy by wich tax policy should be made, but not when a democrat puts it into direct action?why is that?
either it is the appropriate thing to do, take care of the top in order to support the rest, or it isnt.it cant be a good idea from a conservative mouth and a bad idea from a liberal one.

not to toot my own horn, but he calls me dumb all the time wich tickles me.im no genius but far more a critical thinker than his elementary school nonsense punctuated with irrelivant pictures.

thank you for noticing the avatar thing, i never said anything but damn that pic skeeves me out.

You are a retarded retard. (thats bad)

now that is the intelligence i was expecting..

wait what if it negates.what if a retarded retard equates to high functioning?

never heard what happens when you lie with dogs huh..................................

It's pretty scary the power that those big money lenders and power brokers wield. Obama at least is making moves to shift this power. There will be plenty of resistance. Thanks for clarification on the bailout by the way.

Unfortunately you are correct, and for what? Money that they can't take with them when they die.

the money is how you keep score. Its all about the power. Thats what you have wills an dfoundations for to use your money to screw with people even after you have died.

You forget the Dems "Milk Man" Soros.

No, i remembered him quite well. I didn't mention him becaue unlike the Koch brothers George is quite vocal about his activities. He writes, gives speeches and publicly supports his efforts. Love or hate you usually know what he is up too. He doesnt hide in the shadows and attempt to deny his invovlement like they do. If you are going to spend your money on a cause you should be proud enough to freely admit it.

Mark701, I doubt that their money brings them much joy even in this life time.

what a non-starter that comment is.

That is so fn true mik661.

So if a man con man warns you that you are being conned do you ignore it and continue to be conned? Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.

Radical_Centrist is afraid to look at himself in the mirror, and for good reason.

How about because Bush enacted the bail out prior to leaving office. The alternatives were like trying to cure a brain tumor by cutting your head off at that point.

I'm Australian by the way. Just happen to care about what happens in the US. I did not realize that this was something that was already passed by W. Thanks.

Obama voted for the bailout. If Congress didn't vote for the bailout then the economy would have nearly or completely collapsed. Maybe that should have been allowed to happen so people could see how bad things really were.

Ok right. Obama voted for it. The plot thickens. it sounds like very little of that bailout money filtered down to the people that really needed it.

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and
then campaign against them..

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are
against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and
high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on
appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme
Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are
directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the
domestic problems that plague this country.

Yep, and the Obama administration came to the game late, and deserve some consideration for doing their best to change that.

It is a shame when people are unable to see beyond their own circumstances.

I think the only meaningful "money fighting" takes place "at a closed table" amongst the big money makers who have setup the game. Its not an open game. Anyone "from the outside" who comes to the table.. I don't think their money matters.

I think the real question is... now that we, and I mean over this whole planet, have been thoroughly overtaken by corporate gamers (politically, economically, and socially)... now that we see the game so full and deep in swing - meaning we are in for the long ride on this now... if there is a truth to what I suggest there... what are we really going to do to make a difference? What steps can we really take?

I do not mean to sound pessimistic... I am trying to look at this pragmatically, accepting the fact that my money and vote don't mean anything in that game.

And I think physical revolution is either a long way off, or maybe even not possible.
I am thinking, if one is looking for a/the revolution... one is going to have to look within.

So I see no fight with money... I think that is a delusion the gamers want us to continue to buy into (as ludicrous or stupid as it sounds).

If it weren't so apparent how powerfully people's minds have been worked over, to the point of believing what they hear and are told in spite of what they see ...it would be unbelievable hearing some of the continuing pro "Obama message of hope" followers.

I do believe that real change is made by individuals. If a significant leader were to step up and take the risk of being a man/woman with balls of steel... to actually serve the oath and not the corporate, in the face of utter threat to their life and the wellbeing of their family and those they love... then perhaps the people could begin to create some footing for positive political change.

Your comment about morals and ethics, tommic, is so poignantly right on. I believe that is at the heart of what we need to be waking up to and fighting for and with. Even if we can only do it one soul at a time.

Idealistic but not realistic, if you are unable or unwilling to contribute to those groups that share your values you really can only help by blogging and writing both your senator and congressmen. You can join a organizations that shares your concerns. If your waiting for a revolution either non violent or violent you will never see your dream. Failure to recognize limitations and options will stymie any real change. The first reality comes from within realizing how you do go about formenting change. Money talks and bullshit walks as the old saying goes. Join the charge, take a chance you really have nothing to lose.
The powers that be will never allow a revolution in the purist sense. Wake up smell the coffee and get your ass in gear.

If I respond to this point by point it will be too long winded.
My dear fellow, it seems you missed my point, and made a lot of assumptions.
Brief responses (inserted)...

tommic wrote: "Idealistic but not realistic, if you are unable or unwilling to contribute to those groups that share your values (where did I indicate such, as I only spoke to not contributing to a group that doesn't share my values?? Why would you assume knowing anything about my interests, or not, regarding contributing elsewhere, whether with money or other??) you really can only help by blogging and writing both your senator and congressmen. You can join a organizations that shares your concerns (Since I did not even speak to this, why would you presume to infer I either do or I don't?). If your waiting for a revolution (where did I say I was waiting for a revolution?!?) either non violent or violent you will never see your dream. Failure to recognize limitations and options (I specifically address both - did you miss it?) will stymie any real change. The first reality comes from within (idealistic notion ...but it does not equate to unrealistic, you seem to concur what I speak to on this point) realizing how you do go about formenting change. Money talks and bullshit walks as the old saying goes (not so cut and dry... your money is no good at the "their table" (they already own that money), and its not all about money anyway, you said so yourself). Join the charge, take a chance you really have nothing to lose.
The powers that be will never allow a revolution in the purist sense (um... its already happening, its just you don't bring a gun to mind-fuck battle). Wake up smell the coffee and get your ass in gear.

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tommic, I generally love the spirit of where you seem to be coming from (so don't take this the wrong way...), however, you really missed my points... possibly by making some powerful assumptions before, and without even, first bothering asking me about certain things you could only guess at about me.

Idealistic but not realiestic?! Really? Try reading my post more carefully, without assuming things that I am not actually saying. You may find something completely different from what you are making it out to say, and actually probably closer to the tune you yourself are playing (reread your post after rereading mine).

My 'revolution' line was meant to suggest something ...perhaps along these lines...
...the battle is not "out there" or "coming". We are already "in it", and "it" is now inside us...

(As an example...) We are so compromised in moral integrity (individually and societally), so many things we do "without thinking" is based in "immoral programming".. so much so that many do not even notice it when it is slapping us in the face. We are numb to it. It is idealistic to think this ingrained programming is not having an impact on our abilities to listen and formulate understandings, on our choices, and our actions, ...and the outcome.
I am not waiting for a revolution, or even looking for one... I see the one that is evident right now, pressing inside of me/us, and I am working on careful attention to that. I have been expressing my opinion about the importance of this because I feel it is so readily overlooked by so many ...as having no importance or significance.

Point: how many people do you see portending to "fight the good fight" while using the same tools of hate and fear that they so regaliously claim to be battling? The disease of immorality will not be overcome with more immorality.

Idealistic? Hardly... you yourself point out the prime importance of the "first reality". The fight has been largely taken off the battlefield "out there" and is being brought to you "within" by so many non-gun-related "sponsers" its not even funny. The purist revolution is not currently being televised... the battle to wake up, claim some balanced sensability of mind, and stay awake ...cannot be fought against with a gun, or physically be seen taking place ...only we "can" see and feel the results.

It is better to fight the LIES that the people with money promote with truth and your vote, than to try to keep up with them. There is no way to do that unless all of US low or no income Citizens all win the Lotto. Stop the lies by not listening to them, and start speaking the truth to those who lie. You have the power to drive them from their lair.

That is what you/we are doing on this page each time we speak the truth from our hearts, as you are doing now twohawks. Thank you.

Hey tommic, sometimes and some of US only have OUR actions to offer, BIG or small, and those offerings ought to be appreciated, and are appreciated at least by moi.

You do whatever you can, but sitting and bitching really is doing nothing except releasing displeasure.

Only if you give up aleandrek. Have you given up?

Ur "little bit" is enough, so don't give up. Great achievements are accomplished through small persistent effort. Ur small and persistent actions will be fruitful.

ur 2 late dude.

U seem to be the one LYING. U must be one of those Repugs or Tea Baggers casting aspersions.

why don't you read the article before talking out your ass? I like Obama and follow him, but not blindly like you're doing right now.

Read the link and LEARN!!

Sorry samantha420. I don't believe everything that I read in The Huffington Post. Huffington used to be in the Repugs camp. I agree with Idealist below. The Shadow Government, spearheaded by Cheney, has probably threatened the President and his family, if he goes too far. Have you noticed his gray hair? What do you think turns a fairly young man's hair gray over 18 months? If you are not a Repug or a Tea Bagger, then you are no better than one. You certainly are doing their work for them.

PREACH IT!! cant believe some one put a thumbs down on your testimony... people these days..

soo ignorant...

Sorry ksirys, I meant this for you. I don't believe everything that I read in The Huffington Post. Huffington used to be in the Repugs camp. I agree with Idealist below. The Shadow Government, spearheaded by Cheney, has probably threatened the President and his family, if he goes too far. I wouldn't be surprised by that. Have you noticed his gray hair? What do you think turns a fairly young man's hair gray over 18 months? If you are not a Repug or a Tea Bagger, then you are no better than one. You certainly are doing their work for them.

That's fine... but to follow blindly like he's the second coming of Jesus is absurd. In some ways, you could be right... DICK cheney could be doing that or even bush senior. But we have to look at what's happening right now...
kids are still being killed by cops with no repercussion,
AWOL bush is still out there, even though he lied and destroyed america!
we are PAYING banks and corporations to MAKE MORE MONEY! while our Vets are HOMELESS!!!

So, it doesn't matter how good or how bad the "evil forces" are pushing him. WE NEED CHANGE!! but with someone with BALLS!

Washigton knows if you repeat a lie often enought some people will believe it.

Ksirys, we are the ones who have to have the balls. We can lend the President OURs, if we all lend them together. I know he wants to accomplish what we want to accomplish. We want to accomplish peace and happiness for our selves and our loved ones. Every person on the planet wants to do that in their heart of hearts. Maybe some are not in touch with that desire yet but it is there, and sooner or later will discover it. That desire can be satisfied, if we each play our part in accomplishing it.

We are the US in the US of America! We are the real power behind the throne, not Cheney, not Bush, not Lipstick Palin, not even President Obama, who currently sits on it. WE determine what happens in the US of America. Not BIG OIL, not DIRTY COAL, not UN-NATURAL GAS, not MONOSANTO, not BIG INSURANCE, not BIG BANKS, especially not IMAGINARY CORPORATE PERSON-HOODS, US, WE decide. Religion does not determine our future. WE do. I could go on and on though I don't think I need to.

You have the balls to do it. Please, don't blame President Obama for our own shortfalls as leaders and participants in this Democracy?

Remember, Think Globally, Act Locally?!

Can I agree with you and KSirys at the same time?

Most certainly you may agree or disagree with anyone you wish.

Read the above and think again.

Yes he will !.

You seem to be excited by the possibility ruben_d_monroy_gonzalez? If that is true, then you and people like you are what truly threatens OUR country. Fear, hate, and violence seems to be the only thing some people strive for. What a shame. What a waste.

ruben D's comment is kinda border line 50-50..........
but yes.
United we stand, Divided we fall.