A Pew Research poll finds that only 34% of Americans know the bank bailout was passed by President Bush, while 47% incorrectly think it was Obama > New World Order Report

Well, without antiquate investigation we will never know!

Make sure you watch the last 8 to 10 minutes it will blow your mind!

+'d. Imagine if every dollar spent on the two present Middle East Conflicts had gone to Education.

I can imagine that, but I have this uncanny ability to imagine the world in a better place. I can't seem to shake that liberal mindset that keeps poking me in the brain.

I invite you to never shake it. True compassionate liberalism is a good thing, and should be nurtured.

Well thanks I will keep trying, but it seems to get harder and harder. I'm kind of getting up there in age at 58, but I still can shoot a target from three football fields away, and that military mindset is still in the background and you never know when those skills will be called on again. Viva La Revolution!!!!!!!!!

First you say quote I know grown men, people that I ride with, people that I've worked for, a few that have graduated from college, others that didn't finish high school, that couldn't tell you who the Vice President is, couldn't tell you who the mayor of the city that they live in is. City Council members?

Then you say quote Some people worry more about Medical Marijuana, gays getting married, re-distributing wealth (isn't going to happen), building a Mosque in New York City (not my concern, I don't live there, and never will), what's happening in Sudan (again, not my concern), than about .

I'm confused--what is your point?

How is complaining about people you "know" that are obviously not you and therefore they inherently do not exactly possess the exact same amount of knowledge you do or really care if your opinion is they worry/care/don't care about the same things you do--going to do anything to actually implement your wish/hope/dream/desire that they starting "improving their own living conditions, their city, their state"

And how does the fact you seem to want all these things to happen but YOU yourself are not running for political office to improve YOUR government or stating how you personally took steps to improve YOUR living conditions or YOUR city or YOUR state--and thus YOU could lead by example and teach others what worked and what did not -- actually accomplish anything of value either?

I swear lately the level of hypocrisy in all its forms and from pretty much all sides of the political, social, and knowledge sectors-- just amazes me lately.

Have some common sense, common sense. Part of it was about education. How can you give someone a diploma that can barely read? Sounds like a problem with the education system we have. Partially. I knew how to read at an at least normal level, when I was in elementary school. How do you get to college without learning how to read on a high level? Partially schools fault, partially the kids fault. A lot of people make an art out of doing the very least that they can, while still making passing grades. How does that work in real life, the work force?

It's not about them knowing the same things that I know. It's about paying attention to what actually matters. Medical Marijuana does not matter. The Mosque in NYC does not matter. Gays getting married does not matter, except to the gays involved. Sudan? Doesn't make a bit of difference to me. What does matter, is working on your surroundings, your city, your state, your life and what is going on in it. Are you improving yourself, and your situation? Are you satisfied with what you do, your job, your school?

How would you know what I've run for? I might be the head dog catcher here in Santa Maria, or I might be a welfare recipient. I might rail against illegal aliens, but then hire them when I need some cheap labor. All I know is that I'm doing what I like doing, as far as work, recreation, and the lifestyle I live. My living conditions are just fine. Do I want a bigger house, or more land? Sure, that would be tits. Could I use more money? Of course. But I'm living a very comfortable life, do what I want to do when I want to do it, and occasionally lighting some fires under people asses here on Current.

As far as accomplishing anything of value, I've got two kids in college, dogs to feed, house to pay for, and a machine shop in my garage. I've got a 40 hour job. Plus all the work I can stand to do in my garage. It's valuable to me, allows me to go to concerts (ZZ Top last Thursday) go ride my motorcycles, go to Vegas regularly, and eat whatever I want to eat.

Hypocrite? Yeah, OK. It works for me.

Not spend on war but spend on education? Then how could we pull off the next round of fraud, theft and lies? But then again we spend twice what we used to and get poorer results. Fluoride? Nice white teeth in our stupid little faces.

"imagine the world in a better place?" Unfortunately, our brains are small and the morons may always be with us. Maybe a lot less people would make it a better place. How about quality rather than quantity? I can't remember if population control is one of those rare ideas that is unpopular among the left and the right wing nuts. Kinda hope it catches on. Thought the bird flu might address the problem. But that was a failure to launch. HIV only made the drug companies richer, if that is even possible. We had a good kick off last century with the Spanish Flu. I heard some scientist were digging up victims of that in the Alaska permafrost. "Hey Henry, hand me that vial of that stuff we dug up in Alaska. Whoops! (sound of glass tube shattering." The West Nile virus is picking up steam in Greece. Then there is always 2012 just around the corner.

Locked, cocked and ready to rock, brother. I am 61. Did you say revolution? "Better to burn out than rust away."

That would do it for sure. Unfortunately the elite have their own plans in the works and you may have touched on one of them!

I like your attitude, you and me got to get together and figure this shit out. I know of another dozen people with the same mindset ready to start a real revolution. Come on CIA see if you can stop us! Ass holes.

Wars should be quick and decisive, as not to drain the Economy of the aggressors. Seems these conflicts lengths are benefiting civilian corporations, while creating financial downturns and Worldwide resentment. There are threats to America, but nothing we couldn't handle with our military closer to home. Education is fundamental to a peaceful, productive society. Therefor any amount of money spent on a good education could never be too much.

The bail out first failed and the banks had to twist a few more arms. Look at Pelosi's face upon the announcement that they had revoted and passed the bail out. She looks like what ever was stuck up her ass was never coming out (and it hasn't). Congress (pretty much the same ones that put us into never ending war on false reports of WMD's) dropped their collective pants for the Fed, the Banks and Wall Street. Bush was laughing so hard he could hardly keep his pen from shaking when he signed it.

There's even been studies that have found correlations between obesity and lower IQ.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1531487/The-greater-your-weight-the-lower...

And I would want to say it's something to do with 'our' diet but I remember reading that the caloric intake is fairly homogeneous over most of the country regardless of obesity or leanness of the states (read in a Time Magazine article) so I'd be more inclined to say it's predetermined genetic (or epigenetic) influences along with diet choice.

But, basically, what I'm trying to say is we don't just have an obesity crisis we also have a stupidity crisis in America that has gone unaddressed now for far too long. lol

They are part of the problem, but right wing radio is more prevalent across the country, with about 10 hours to one for liberal shows. That's by design, a lot of the right wing programs have lost big money, but big money keeps em on the air. For years when I have tried to discuss a political point to someone, they will completely come off the wall with something that just doesn't make sense. It puzzles me because most are fairly smart individuals, then something key they say matches up with a right wing lie and I go, well that explains a whole lot. Now I know why someone is so led astray, it makes perfect sense when you hear the right wing noise machine in the background. I guess it's more willful ignorance, they have on purpose lost the ability to sort crap from reality.

There isnt a audience for liberal radio shows. Its been tried, and failed remember air america.

That's funny, Thom Hartmann's show is on over a hundred stations and making big money, same with Ed Shultz and dozens of other liberal shows. But if your in an area that doesn't have a liberal show then your not getting a balanced idea of the political scene. O'riely finally had to give up his show after his boss couldn't stand the financial losses anymore. His show was bought and paid for and forced into market's before somebody else had to take his place. The ditto head market is full of backward thinking people who believe they are rich.........rich in stupidity!

That's cuz liberals ain't particularly funny. But the right wing nuts are hi-larious and entertaining. If Fox could get away with public executions and bring back the gladiators...... well actually, isn't that phony wrestling stuff on Fox? And those liberals always want you to think and listen about dying babies and pollution and poisonous air and chemicals in our food and famine and phony Capitalists stealing trillions of dollars and bad health care that cost twice as much as Cuban health care and Canadian health care and all that stuff. Where's the fun in that?

Is the Pope a Catholic? Does a bear shit in the woods? Good point.

so can i safely the vote for obama is FAILURE??

When the time comes, Jan, that the gov't realizes the Rapture isn't coming they'll release some fantastic energy source inventions from their chest of mothballs. Til that time we just may as well all be the morning garbage men. For our own mental health we and the entire Middle Class -if such still exists- should accept our new status as a Society of Nobodies.

Me personally, I'm pushing even harder to continue losing weight, so that when the day comes my disability money is stopped I'll be in physical condition to sleep under the trees, down on a riverbank somewhere. And with my super low body temperature of 93.2 that's my last move. Bury me beside the river or shove this half-nothing, low metabolism body into the water whichever they feel like doing is fine. Oops, 96.2. It just sometimes feels like 93.2 my mistake. 1.2 measly degrees above hypothermia anyway.

thank you jan

do you EVER actually comprehend what you read?

giving up, gravity_man, is exactly what they want you to do. Do not cooperate with them. Fight back any and every way you can...

do not go gentle into that good night
but rage
rage
against the dying of the light.

Dylan Thomas

No, we should not dismiss that because he is a Democrat. Obama is a centrist pretty much like Clinton was, lessor of two evil's and our first black President. When I hear the clear venomous outrage from the wing-nuts on the right, I really scratch my head. The country has been pushed so far to the right by corporate America Ronald Reagan couldn't have gotten elected on his record. Think that one over, a cut and runner in Lebanon, amnesty for illegals, traded arms for hostages in Iran. It's all been cleverly managed by the corporate media, Obama was forced to take many of his positions on the campaign trail because the minute he got out of line like for example Iraq.....one of the first politicians to speak out against the war....The pro-war corporate media forced the issue about leaving Iraq with honor. Bingo that's Barrack's position. We all watch the political battle for 18 months, and were twitching with pleasure at knowing we would get rid of Bush finally. But 8 years of continuos right wing rhetoric has damaged this country to the point there is basically no real left except the people.

hehe I wasn't advocating throwing in the towel nor laying down alive and asking people to start shoveling on the dirt either! I'm just saying prioritize and keep your health.

If you have it to keep.

I was 280 pounds now I'm 254. I have a ways to go yet. With my super low bottomed-out metabolic rate in order to lose weight I have to live with Cain in a cave, take special pills like Leptorexin that dissolves fat off the waist and take Guarana, a sprinkle of Stacker II and Mega Hoodia, and more or less tie myself to the side of MOBY DICK.

Can anyone interpret please?

so can i safely the vote for obama is FAILURE??

What else exists in your Universe?

you have a great sense of humor, so let me stand by your sidelines and cheer you on with something a bit lighter in tone:

Run Forest, Run!

You sir are slamming the psychic meter into the red zone! I just wrote that to another blog before I left to do some shopping. I said I was gonna start running til I either meet up with Forrest Gump or Fess Parker. hahaha If we team up some day we'll be AWESOME. Which side of the neck do you prefer?

Sorry, can't answer you unless you stop typing in code.

Fess Parker died a couple of months ago. He lived about 20 minutes from here. A good man.

you suck. kill yourself.

tis the nature of the beast colin....
humanity is fickle and frail, but that is not all that we are.

THAT"S RIGHT THIS SHOW AIRED..........6 months before 911!

Who are you voting for? Answer the same shadow government you have been voting for since Kennedy was murdered.

holy shit.

do we know if bush or cheney were X files fans?

i dont know what's scarier...the tv show draws zombies or the idea that you can vote...

HAHHAHAHAH honestly dude..........

Well the personnel for both shows discussed different idea's at party's and meetings with FBI and CIA people. There is more to this story than we are being told.

interesting. It wouldn't shock me at all. Ever since I created a blog that critiques the government a bit Haliburton and the Government are some of my biggest viewers. They're always watching

Of course they are, the government is corporate America. They will not give up power easily. And if the revolution was to somehow come tomorrow, you could bet your bottom dollar corporations would be backing their hand picked revolutionary leader. The elite of this country have always been able to sit back and wait when the going gets tough, hell they even tell their kids don't join the military for obvious reason's. I have heard that with my own two ears from my first marriage and my x-brother in law talking to his nephew my step son. Keeping power and letting the poor fight their wars for them.

Are you sure that spray will work on aphids!

Oh I've heard that plenty and even the Pentagon discusses the low level soldiers as "disposables". This county's politics and governmental system need a complete re-working on a massive scale. It's a shame that Texas is really the only one who can say see ya or I'm sure it would have been done by now

I think its efficacy depends on whether you spray it or huff it....;-)

During my stint in the Army, in fact I was one of the first new volunteer Army recruits. I was quite aware of the disgruntled enlisted who were drafted (Not Enlisted) back then a strong fist was employed to get enough people in the system. I wish we could back to those days of the draft and then people would pay more attention to frivolous wars now being fought over resources. The system is broke and I admire the poor souls that have been over deployed because of chicken shit rich and people that think they are rich letting a whole nother class fight their wars.

RThat guy has definitely been huffing something.

I dunno...sounds like Arizona could secede if they wanted to, problem is, they don't want to. The more I hear about the situation in Arizona, the more I feel it is another giant manipulation by our government to get us to buy in or buy out of whatever their next power motivated scheme is. It is beyond ridiculous that we can have the number of troops we do in the Middle East, and yet we cannot control our own borders or drug traffic. The whole situation has the same stench of Katrina and New Orleans.

I agree with you completely but for that to happen some party would have to commit political suicide to get it to pass and so far neither one is willing to make it happen. They'd rather let the problem get worse than to implement a better plan and risk their cozy job.

I wanted to just put up signs on the border saying "caution mine field ahead" and never actually plant mines but just make it look legit and occasionally toss some fireworks. Cheap yet effective

It's gotten to the point where I am beginning to think maybe I should just shut up and watch the nuts run the asylum. After all it is entertainment, I just wish there was some kind of CEO game show like marathon man!

Some people took the Arnold movie real serious. What was it called? Hot Gun Terret's n' Skyscrapers? Only the nukes in the baggage section decided to malfunction.

Going after more valuable posting badges eh?

can i buy that stuff by the case, like at costco? i need a lot of it for a hard to get rid of troll.

Paranoia will destroy 'ya.

I love that song!

Yes, I know exactly what your saying. Man ignorance will be the death of this country! Did you check out the film on coreofcoruption or have you seen it before.

Never heard of it, I will have to take a look.

Did you just point me to a 911 truther site?

When you do remember to pay attention to the last 8 to 10 minutes of it or fast forward to it. It will blow your mind.

It is but several years ago i stumbled upon an episode of a spin off series of X files called the lone gunman. I think it was the second episode, fast forward to the section at the end last 8 or 10 minutes. That aired in march of 2001, after you've seen that tell me it doesn't all make sense.

I too have thought this might be a good idea, but there are some definable problems with it.

Like how could we ensure that it doesn't get politicized...

For example:

1.) Do you believe in God.
2.) Is abortion wrong.
n.)...

There just seems that there is no safe way to implement it, and keep it from being abused. I guess some answers are hard to come by though....

Thats true. But I do think some basic questions like the ones I outlines are generic enough that they could be set in stone.

Certain subjects or types of questions would have to be off limits. Anything related to religion, asking if something is wrong.

Notice my questions asked facts, and they require specific names of legislation, names of people, and your tax rate. None of which can be disputed.

You also make sure that the questions are known way ahead of time. Heck the question on the 4 major bills could serve as useful input to guide the government on what everyday people want and expect from them.

The decision for what constitutes major legislation could be decided by the number of times the bill name or number is mentioned in the media that year.

you should buy and distribute the x-files dvd set to everybody...HAHHAHAHAHAHA

Absolutely Conniepae, absolutely.

I am thinking you mean how convenient for both Bush and Obama. Obama's Administration expanded the bail-out to include other corporations, making itself a part of the crime. Remember the expansion of the bail-out, or am I mistaken?

After 8 years of Bush/Cheney many things did need a bailout. George W.'s self-professed 'decidership', led us down the path to needing bailing out. President Obama didn't create the environment where so many were in financial trouble. That did happen under Bush/Cheney.

Absolutly! Bush/Cheney looted America, no doubt. Every economic problem we now have is rooted in that Administration. Never the less the story dealt with the bail-out and who approved it. Both Presidents approved it, was my point. It was smooth, you had to look hard. Bush on the way out approved and Obama once seated expanded it . The Corporation's got their money, and Bush (not Obama, even though he was responsible for half) got the blame.

The reckless behavior that led to the bailouts happened during the Bush years, regardless of who authorized the bailouts.

The Republicans are blaming President Obama plenty. They are spinning as much of the blame on him as they can. When it comes to George W., they say, his shenanigans don't matter, that's the past, Barack Obama is President now. They act as though any criticism of George W. is 'picking on him'. I do agree with them, but it is the facts that are 'picking on him, not me.

Thanks, I also sent you a memo on the attached movie at the head of the posts.