Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Home With AK-47

Always have a throw down to make it all legit

He said "Please." No manners in america anymore. Problem is you gotta kill em all. Need chemicals, bio-weapons, or atomic junk or maybe just an "all you can eat at McDonald's." Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it. Or, maybe, you are are what you kill?? Wait, I'll tune to Foxy News. They will most likely have the answers to life's elusive mysteries. That is Toto humping your leg, isn't it?

i want to know what he did to piss those guys off

He gave this group of men a fair warning, now, I'm not sure if he said,"Can you please leave?" Not exactly like that, but fair warning, nonetheless.

They were tresspassing on his private property, which he has every right to defend.

If you ask me, he let these jerks off easy by firing a couple warning shots into his front lawn. I don't know if I would have had such a controlled attitude toward someone who threatened to hurt my family or loved ones.

Jesus, I wish people would learn about what rights they have and the limits of those rights before they complain that they are being taken away. this is a clear case of the writer and the person involved not understanding the limits of their rights. If either had taken the time to learn they would know that outside ones home there are strict rules of engagement and those essentially are just like rules law enforcement are expected to follow in that unless imminent harm is threatened ie. they person is openly brandishing a weapon and is/has shown intent to use said weapon against you or another person. Inside ones home its pretty much on though, if you have already called police and verbally warned the individual/s of the fact that they are not welcome and that intrusion will be met with force then if they come in its pretty much in your favor legally as well as for safety to not wound but kill them outright, because wounding allows them to sue if you happened to forget to adhere to the proper set of afore engagement rules. Basically ask a cop thats what I did and they were happy to explain the intricacies of the law to me.

The problem here is an unfortunate legal issue between what constitutes freedom of speech versus what constitutes freedom to fire a weapon. In a way its a variation on the argument out of Florida over should Koran's be burned on September 11th.

It's also a classic example of the law saying you can only meet a threat with a force equal to repel that threat--as was pointed out by another poster earlier in the thread.

But really it boils down to you can't prosecute or kill people for what they MIGHT do -- In this case the homeowner said he thought these guys were gang members and that the people in his yard threatened him with words and basically talked a bunch of smack and yes they outnumbered him--but notice he never said they pulled out guns or knives or weapons of their own and he didn't pay attention to whether or not their guns or knives or other weapons were clearly visible. Thus he had no proof they were going to shoot him or follow through with their threats.

It sucks but it is the law. And it works both ways because this is the same rule that protects people from being shot by police or at least allows their families to file wrongful death lawsuits--think about it-what's the first thing a police officer does after shooting someone? They verify the person actually had a gun or they say I saw a gun or the victim pointed a gun at me.

It could also be reasonably argued that the gang members saw the AK-47 and knew they were literally outgunned--as well as probably knew the gun control laws better than this homeowner -- so they deliberately baited him into starting crap with them and set him up to be arrested instead of themselves.

If this guy would of known the gun laws and followed them, he would of known that it is a felony to fire a "warning shot". if you are going to pull the trigger it better be at someone who is threatening your or your family's life. the reason for this law is to keep from people letting off warning shots left and right, and the chance of a warning shot to bouncing off the ground and hitting a passer-by is good.
The man should of shot the people and not his grass.

These punks should be the ones arrested. I grew up in a town where gangs "tried" to intimidate others, but couldn't.

Gangs of all types need to have a 2 strike rule, you like being in a gang? you have two chances... fuck up once, you get a slap. Fuck up the second time, you go to jail for at least 10yrs... Third time? you stay in jail for life!

These "gangs" are just punks who are too afraid of being alone when it's time to fight. pussies!

Ah, for the good old days, when men were men and smelled like horses. Yes, a man's metal could be measured by the length of his gun barrel, not by his bad grammar.

Personally, I own weapons and fear mostly the moron with the gun. That would include about 80% of the gun toting idiots in my neighborhood, mostly white males, that is until Sarah Palin moves into my neighborhood. I am happy to be member of the NRA and the ACLU, cause I just like the principles and I do not like people meddling with me.

Most of you will lead dull and boring lives. Unlike TV, you will have no great love in your life, accomplish no great feat, be no ones hero. You will not be kidnapped or killed, but if you are a woman, you have an excellent chance of being raped or at least abused.

Voting all "anonymous hit-n-run" -Vd responses on this post +^d,.... whether I agree with em or not. Pitiful.

This SHOULD be added to "Urban Mobility";....anyone with any f-ing "mobility" to them AT ALL,...should GET THE F out of the "Urban".

just sayin.

He should have waited for the sight of a gun or knife and shot all of them. They were on his property after all. When you are in fear for your life or that of your family in Texas at least, you can use deadly force.

As long as the shots landed ON HIS PROPERTY,...I don't see the the problem.
In Texas,...we have a "Stand your ground" law that I BELIEVE would put that gentleman completely in the clear. ( As long as the gun was a legal weapon, legally registered. )

can the individual homeowner truly rely on anyone but themselves to protect his family? In the few minutes it might take for the police to respond the whole family could be massacred.

why can't the greatest nation on earth take it's resources to inure those with little or no hope to join the military services. the military could be used to retrain citizens that have been forced to live outside the law, giving all a reason to be proud in service to all...

wayward teens/ gang members we have tried to help off the streets completed their high school education and looked to the military as way to keep them SAFE FROM THE STREETS at home.

upon returning home these young men became community leaders! IT CAN HAPPEN!

So,...really he should have lobbed some tear-gas and hoped they either fled or drew weapons, so that THEN he could shoot them. You should always have the 'non lethals' handy I suppose.

Hopefully he's able to get released.

The logic of the poolice in this case is absurd. Firing into the ground is not reckless endangerment. If anything it is the opposite. The police are completely backward in this case. In fact, I don't even see where the stated has any interest in thsi case whatsoever. This man has the absolute right to defend his property and his family in any way he deems appropriate. As far as I am concerned the authority of the state stops at the curb for something like this.
It is refreshing to know that when seconds count the police are minutes away.

the man was just trying to defend his turf :D

"Grier said he knew Nassau County Police employ the hi-tech “ShotSpotter” technology in his area and that the shooting would bring police in minutes."

Watch the video. The man knew what he was doing. He wasn't firing his gun prematurely, he was alerting the police.

This man is a hero for defending his family and property from gang members. Especially in the clever way he did it . If they don't drop the charges I think some Jury Nullification is in order.

Well, it seems like piece of shit gang members have more rights than this man does to keep and bear firearms. The city where I live have a MAJOR Sureno gang problem. Fuck the gang members. They should shoot them all. Or is that a little too straightforward for Current?

......Why the fuck did he have an AK47?

He wasn't arrested for defending his home with a rifle, he was arrested for shooting the gun into the ground near the people.
That's fair enough. Let it go to court and see what they determine.

Waste of time, the man was clearly defending his home. He didn't even shoot any attacker, he should be considered a saint.

Bottom line is this. Don't shoot a gun unless your going to kill someone with it. Don't pull out a gun unless your ready to kill someone with it. Don't own a gun unless you are prepared to make that decision.

Obviously this guy wasn't as prepared for this situation as he thought, if he is firing his gun prematurely.

i would say something like "what the fuck is he in jail for?"
But you can't just fire off semi-automatic assault rifles into the ground(or air) on Long Island when some mexicans start talking shit about you and your family.

sounds like a script from one of the "vigilante " movies with Charles Bronson

This is against the constitution and is a violation of our human rights.

I'd have done the same thing....if what he's saying is true.
Would I have used a high powered AK-47? No, desert eagle would do just fine.