Fidel Castro: "The Cuban Model No Longer Works"

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In an interview with journalist Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic, Fidel Castro admitted that "the Cuban model doesn't even work for us anymore."
Could this finally legitimize the actions of the opposition that has been trying for many years to bring change to Cuba? What does this mean for the future of Cuba, that the leader of the Revolution itself believes that the economic model no longer works?
And also, what does this mean for Hugo Chavez in Venezuela who has time and time again held up Cuba as a model for Venezuela?
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Personally, I am glad that what Cubans in exile have been saying for 50 years has finally been admitted by Fidel Castro. I have only one word for this: Vindication.
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lloydcata
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I never said Fidel's Marxist-Leninist economy was a resounding success. Yet understand; being poor is relative. Dirt poor Indigenous people have survived for 10 thousand years and they have fat happy children, albeit without 'clothes'. Of course, the Emperor Bush destroys the global economy and he's better? No shame in being poor. The shame is being stupid, and you don't survive for "thousands of years" being stupid.
- 1 year ago
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lloydcata
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Fidel Castro was wrong all along. Fidel's experiment with Marxist-Leninist political economy has been a total failure. His model doest work if you want your nation to be a third world dirt poor dictatorship, like Castro turned his country into.
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sandokan0
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lloydcata
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Many old tired things are crumbling, my friend, or have you not been paying attention to what is happening in the world?
Fidel has serve his purpose, and he has served it well. Now we will see what results have been. Again, I say to you; "Look at the average Cubano after Fidel and look at the average American after 10 different US presidents.
Did you know; The line flattens for the bottom 90% of Americans. Average income went from that $30,941 in 1980 to $31,244 in 2008. Think about that: the average income of Americans increased just $303 dollars in 28 years.
Do you think Americans have not felt the boot of capitalist hegemony? Do you think Cubans would stand for this without Fidel?Not to worry. There is much life to Cuba after Fidel and there will be more, but we will see if the Cuban people will replace Fidel with the same kind of people running the USA. That would be the tragedy, because the region does not need another Haiti.
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lloydcata
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Castros regime has been a complete and absolute failure. The rest of the leadership no longer believe in the regime, they are just puppets obeying order from the Castro brothers. They keep the regime alive by use of force and repression, but the day of reckoning is upon them, the regime is coming apart at the seams.
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sandokan0
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lloydcata
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Not to worry; the 'comrades' on Wall Street and the 'comrades' in Beijing have already decided your fate.
Your capitalist masters have no trouble with the communist agenda of the Chinese politburo, so why should they have a problem with Castro? So sad that he's not dead so they could destabilize the island, but why not Fidel after dealing with so many other worse creatures, like the Zionists in Israel today.
So sorry to inform you that its never about the politics and 'always' about the money. Cheap educated Cuban labor will overcome the ideological nonsense. What do the Americans want? Cheap labor and open markets. Everything else is entertainment for the masses. What do Cubans want? Higher standard of living and personal freedom.
Give the Americans their cheap labor, and give the Cubans a higher standard of living; its a deal. Mutual needs bring together strange bedfellows, and it is still possible that Cuba will become the Japan of the western hemisphere.
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lloydcata
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Fidel Castro has ruined the island. His selfish desire to dominate the Cuban people, has not allow them to prosper and fulfill their potential. The daily struggle that most Cubans have to go through just to live their daily lives is unbelievable. Tourists go to Cuba and relax in the hotels, enjoy the beaches and eat the good food. These are things that the average Cuban can’t afford. Instead of releasing the grip over the people and allow their entrepreneurial abilities to create new ideas and value for others, Castro prefer to keep them under his control, unable to sustain themselves, and hold on to power.
The Castros regime has been a complete and absolute failure. The rest of the leadership no longer believe in the regime, they are just puppets obeying order from the Castro brothers. They keep the regime alive by use of force and repression, but the day of reckoning is upon them, the regime is coming apart at the seams.
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sandokan0
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lloydcata
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Really enjoying the results of the Brazilian election...a female and a Socialist! The largest 'democracy' in Latin America, led by a woman on a long-ago 'terrorist list'.
Did you know Moses was a terrorist? You really never considered how terrified Pharaoh was before he let the Jews go? Of course, you know Ghandhi and Mandela were also on US terrorist lists(shhhh...nobody knows about Ghandhi). Cuba is still listed as a terrorist state, although the only ones they terrorize are some old Cubans in Miami who are still looking for their cut of the revolution. Anyone else?
Wanna know why Americans can't do math? Because when the body count reaches 5,000 they stop counting. It does them no good, so they're trained to ignore the numbers and concentrate on the flag.....keep concentrating...no,no,no, bad numbers. Math is hard!
More Americans die every year from lack of health care than escape or try to escape from Cuba. Cuba is a hard life, but everyone knows how to count. Now, the American capitalist appetite is for 'low-cost' educated workers, because these people in America are too expensive. You already know that American politicians are never responsible for counting; bodies, money, or anything else. However many the number is, the other guy did it!
Strangely, Fidel doesn't have that problem...everything wrong in Cuba is Fidel's fault...no excuses, no pointing the finger, no hiding the truth...why do you think Cubans 'know' they are miserable? Hopefully, when Fidel is gone, and the bright lights come to Cuba, and the capitalists take what is best...the Cuban people will remember who taught them to count...and a Cuban woman will lead Cuba!
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lloydcata
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sandokan0
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How many Cubans in the past 51 years have suffered unspeakable misery for saying the same thing Fidel Castro just said? Cubans are willing to risk their lives sailing in makeshift rafts in order to escape from Dr. Castro island paradise. He has expended Cuba’s resources exporting revolution around the world. The only ones who believe this consummate liar are brainwashed sympathizers and die-hard progressives. Who the cap fits let them wear it.
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Statism versus free markets is about as easy to understand as the difference between Singapore and Greece, and yet here we go again. This weird suicidal statist impulse seems for Obama to trump almost every other consideration: All this goes on as Obama sees the EU running away from precisely what he wishes to implement, while at home a high-tax, high-entitlement, redistributive economy like California has managed to destroy the most richly endowed human and natural landscape — agriculture, tourism, high-tech, oil and gas, Hollywood, Napa Valley, Silicon Valley — in the nation. And yet here we continue down into the abyss while finishing a second year of absorbing banks, insurance companies, auto manufacturers, and the health care system, borrowing trillions to redistribute in new entitlements, with more lust for equality of ends notions like cap and trade and immigration amnesty.
Everywhere one looks statism is a failure. Contrast resource-rich Venezuela with Chile. Juxtapose Cuba to Colombia. Of course, compare Dark Age North Korea with the 21st-century South. Look at the UK in 1954 and 1990.
They are rioting in Europe not to embrace socialism, but in petulant fashion to find someone somehow to pay for it — as if “they” and “them” are partying in some remote Aegean island, with vaults of stashed euros.
Whether hard communism or soft socialism, statism does not work. We all know why — it goes against human nature, rewarding mediocrity and punishing merit, professing egalitarianism for the masses, while the operators of the system, whether the old Soviet apparatchiks or the new crony EU Brussels bureaucrats, satisfy their appetites like capitalists.
How can the Democratic Party become run by those who live lives nothing remotely similar to what they profess when today's chasm between word and deed is stunning — and never remarked on. Stranger still is this new Democratic emperor/bread-and-circus alliance. The very wealthy promise largess to the poorer on the premise that both despise the culture of the aspiring, the one in condescending disdain, the other in bitter envy.
The final irony? ~ How quietly and without audit America’s moneyed and cognitive elites became such hectoring populists — with the constant assumption they can still live, school, work, and marry largely among like kind — oh so distant from the objects of their concern.
excerpted from: http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/from-the-unbelievable-to-the-passe/?si...
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lloydcata
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As one who had a father who attained the age of 100+ years, with all his mental faculties, I am unpersuaded by the lapse in speech becoming the measure of understanding. Perhaps we have the very reason for Mr . Obama's overt affair with his teleprompter. After 50 years of trying to discredit Fidel perhaps they will succeed this time, but when I count the times he has been declared on thing or another, dead at times....I no longer have much interest in how the press characterizes his meaning from one sentence, a paragraph, or even a book...because his is a life, a revolutionary life, a Cuban life. Not a life of Faux colonialism, neo Americanism, or abject Stalinism.
50 years the Cuban people have suffered; beans, bread, and few amenities. No McDonalds, Walmarts, or SUV's....simply Cuban; everyone suffered. To be Cuban and to suffer was sysnonymous, unlike Haiti where suffering is manufactured, and poverty is a cash crop. I think I once saw Fidel in a classic business suit, very dignified but clearly uncomfortable.
Maybe the Cuban people will turn wholeheartedly to Capitalism. China seems to have maintained its Communist principles and maneuvered itself into the Capitalist version of Disneyland, and with so many Mexican 'issues' the Cuban beaches look enticing. Cubans deserve the opportunity to ease their suffering, but as capitalism takes hold and reserves for itself the best that Cuba can produce, there will be many who are not so eager to give up the benefits of Socialism and they will remember Fidel....
I expect disagreement with this view, so let's make the disagreement on a level playing field; look at the parameters for 'the average American child' and look at the same parameters for the 'average Cuban child', and other than monetary value, and even there, because the American child is 'born into a massive debt' that is even extended to their children. The American child is inheriting a political system that has dismissed the compromise of political discourse, and a financial system that would just as likely hire you into servitude as to throw you from your home. Poverty and illiteracy are growing in America! The American 'prison industry' is now just another capitalist investment with a steady influx of 'paying' customers. Propaganda never did impress me...what impresses me is the number of Socialists, once called Terrorists who are successfully leading in Latin America....most quite uncomfortable in a Saville Row suit.
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lloydcata
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lloydcata:
Very well said.
The ability to see beyond the blinkers imposed by ideology and premanufactured opinion, and the courage to discuss it, is an all too rare commodity here.
Thanks for that.
It gives one a welcome reminder there may be still a bit of hope out there after all.
(Or at least, that there is some rational company to share in the sad bemusement at the inevitable reenactments of the all the unlearned contemporary history lessons around us.) - 1 year ago
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Julia Sweig, a Cuba expert at the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations who accompanied Goldberg on the trip, confirmed the Cuban leader's comment, which he made at a private lunch last week.
She told The Associated Press she took the remark to be in line with Raul Castro's call for gradual but widespread reform.
"It sounded consistent with the general consensus in the country now, up to and including his brother's position," Sweig said.
Link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/10/world/main6853855.shtml
Why if asked by the Cuban model he responds by referring to another model?
So, when he says Cuban model he means the capitalist system, and when he says we are concerned he means the U.S.
And how it is that not even one of the Castroites was able to understand the "true meaning" of the words of the tyrant, before he made this "clarification"?
He reversed his previous statement. A lapse, a slip? It happened to him what almost never happened before, he is already old. His rectification is incoherent and it does nothing more than confirm what the journalists interpreted.
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sandokan0
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How is possible that still are some who are sympathetic to the Tyrannosaurus Rex? Don’t let this psychopath liar fool you, he has no conscience.
Castro during the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 12, 1962, the closest the world had ever come to nuclear war, wrote in his cable to Khrushchev in October 26, 1962, “that would be the moment to eliminate such danger forever through tan act of clear legitimate defense, however harsh and terrible the solution would be, for there is no other… the Soviet Union must never allow the circumstances in which the imperialists could launch the first nuclear strike against it.”
Khrushchev response in October 30, 1962, “In your cable of October 27 you proposed that we be the first to launch a nuclear strike against the territory of the enemy. You, of course, realize where that would have led. Rather than a simple strike, it would have been the start of a thermonuclear world war.”
Castro, in his deep hatred against the United States, did not hesitate in asking for the launch of a nuclear strike without given a damn that such action sealed the annihilation of the Cuban people and a large part of humanity. Castro deserves everything that's coming to him.
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lloydcata
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As a long-time watcher, and admirer, of Fidel Castro, I must say that I find his words, once again, of extreme importance to the world.
I.e., when he says, “The Cuban model doesn’t even work for us anymore.”, it is an acknowledgement that the Cuban ‘revolutionary’ model does not work *anymore*, in the new world environment. It is simply an admission of fact that the world has changed, Cuba has changed, and Fidel has changed. What is so controversial about this ‘truth’? There can be no doubt that the revolutionary model was influenced by forces outside Cuba’s borders, both on the left and the right. There can be no doubt that the time has come for the revolutionary model to be retired, and in its place a “Cuban” model, that incorporates the aspirations of ‘all’ Cubans. What has been misinterpreted in these words is that the revolutionary model had, or has, no credible legitimacy. An unfortunate twist of the meaning and intent of Fidel’s words.
The people of Cuba have paid a very high price for ‘their’ revolution. It is a price that entails suffering and hardship, but it is also a price that produced a population literacy and life-expectancy equal if not exceeding that of the United States; the highest in Latin America. Prosperity is fleeting, as millions of Americans have come to realize, but the legitimacy of the socialist movement throughout Latin America is just becoming evident, as the Cuban model is shown to be ‘no longer’ relevant. That in no way is a admission of failure, it is simply the realization that the time for change has arrived. Although Fidel has denied repeatedly that Cuba does not export revolution, the present ascendancy of socialist governments throughout the region cannot be envisioned without the support of the Cuban revolution. It was to Fidel, and Cuba, that those who were called terrorists, looked to for support, and now are the leaders of progressive governments throughout the region.
These words are not to minimize the unfortunate communist aspects of the Cuban revolution. Neither are they an excuse for the inhumanity suffered by those who tried to subvert that revolution. ‘All’ are Cuban, ‘all’ are equally deserving of their Cuban heritage, and ‘all’ should be equally proud that the Cuban people have endured the longest revolution in the modern era. Fidel himself fully recognizes that he, who fathered that revolutionary model, is still relevant as the one who should lead in the dismantling of that model. Thank God, he still has the life and the ability to do so.
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There are obviously a number of those who persist in believing in socialist utopian ideals. However on a practical level it should be understood that widely dispersed ownership and control of economic enterprise is a characteristic of "capitalist" enterprise, while the experiments in socialism have been characterized by centralized control.
The left right debate is useless at this stage. Instead there are some very specific administrative questions in connection primarily with the management of food water and energy.
The American corporatist model has been a failure and is in the process of deep reconsideration, by both recidivists and those with a more creative bent. Too many costs have been "externalized," such as air pollution and the negative health consequences of efficient but somewhat sinister agribusinesses. Nonetheless "private" control of economic enterprises has been more successful and much more democratic on average. Class mobility has been much more fluid in America than in places like Cuba or, of course, north Korea. The contrast is stark, and the conclusions by now should be very painfully obvious.
At this stage the whole world needs a comprehensive industrial policy. America and Cuba at this stage are in many ways at the precipice of the same problem. If you consider the word "sustainability" at a level deeper than sloganeering you'll begin to understand the technical and moral contours of the problem.
All economies are hybrids of dispersed ownership and private / governmental control. Cuba could have a better chance at achieving an efficient and adaptive solution because Cuba is nearly a clean slate. (There aren't too many industry associations or lobbyists there trying to protect vested interests like coal and agribusiness.). Also, in the beginning, small amounts of investment should generate stunning returns. Then, early success could build a virtuous momentum.
Cuba would likely be a great opportunity for "utopians" with a combination of practical skills and a vital sense of social purpose and justice. But advocates of simple and uncreative formulas probably won't be effective or, ultimately, helpful.
But then again, of course, there is always the looming threat of failure, of ideals corrupted and smarminess rewarded.
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AsiaSuperLoop:
I agree as well, that was very well said.
I'm glad you took the time, and had the patience and understanding, to outline the mix of economic systems beyond the usual simplistic hot button divisions of "capitalism" and "socialism."
I also recognize the fresh insight, (and, I think a correct one), about the likely greater possibilities now in Cuba for a fresh start.
It is a battered world but there are still opportunities for creativity and for positive change. - 1 year ago
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onemalefla:
Thank you.
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ampersand:
Thank you.
To be for a moment utopian rather than dystopian (which is my usual tendency), it would be interesting--and incredibly optimistic--to look forward to a well-managed Cuba that is like a Singapore of the Atlantic, except more culturally vital, politically open and ecologically "exciting".
Or... is it that there's a bit of blood in the history of anything that sparkles, or wants to?
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AsiaSuperLoop:
Word... Astutely perceived and excellently articulated
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AsiaSuperLoop:
That is a fine vision.
This is where we'd all like to be Captain Picard and say: "Make it so."When one looks around at the number of human settlements around the planet that have the capacity for approaching paradise and have all seemingly ended up as version of stripped out hell, it gives one pause.
As always, the devil is in the details. - 1 year ago
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AsiaSuperLoop:
Impressive, you know your well spoken when you get this variety of posters responding positively to your posts. Very well spoken indeed. Great response to a complicated topic. I just automatically get my hackles up when capitalist don't see the blatant hypocrisy of holding up their system as better than anything else around. So my posts come across more as rabid and attacking similar to a dog who has been kicked too much instead of searching out alternatives to the left/right, capitalist/communist paradigm.
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I love how all the greedy capitalist pig fucks are just skeeting all over themselves cause Castro admitted that the changes to the Cuban economy are necessary. Wow, pat yourselves on the back America you beat down a little island nation so much that it finally capitulated to your demands that it prostrate itself for the sake of your profit. Good job you fucking pieces of shit. Viva La Cuba! Viva La Revolution!
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onemalefla:
Whatever you say money whore. How many lives did you have to crush to get to your social position? Before you say none, remember that ignorance to your part in the crushing of those lives is no excuse. It only proves you don't have the stomach for your own evil so you hide from your own eyes.
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onemalefla:
"my current "social position"...hahahahhhh fuck thats funny... has me not eating the last 3-5 days of the month so i can pay my bills."
WOW, that capitalism in america sure works huh gomer? YUP YUP!
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onemalefla:
onemalefla, you have made my day. Thank You.
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onemalefla:
From you BIO
I'm an old grumpy man who has giving up on everyone including myself.
I cry myself to sleep every night and think everyone owes me cause I'm so smart and everyone else is so dumb.......BLA BLA BLAThere is more crap I'm sure but I could not stomach the rest. you just got done bitching about how I supposedly think I know a person from their, I don't know their Icon or some words they write about them selves on some online wall? But boy you got me pegged YUP YUP! What I did before collage was work in the telecommunications TRADE ( I know thats a strange word to most Americans these days) its what people who don't want or don't have the money to go to college in their 20's do for a living if they don't want to flip burgers. I made great money traveled half way around the world on that money and married a beautiful Australian woman. When that ended I came home to find that the government had finally admitted that they fuck up my father mentally and physically in Vietnam and were going to finally give him some restitution, though he had the bad luck to die less than a decade into that restitution from the ailments he received during his duty to this country. Before you even think of suggesting he would not like my opinions ( which would be an ignorant statement on your part) it was my father gave me these insights. The reason I am attending college at such a late time is that the opportunity to do so at a reasonable price had not availed itself to me, however, with the admittance by the government of the disability of my father during his service also gave me and my brother the ability to access funding equivalent to the GI bill for our collage expenses. So that is why I am attending college at such a late date. I would add that I intend to take on graduate studies as well and will probably attend off and on for the rest of my life. The problem with people like you is that you settle and give up, I on the other hand grow always and will always be leaps and bounds ahead of people like you.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrRpyPDHiVg
This is what REAL Cubans say.
Don't believe this article.
Current, please, delete this and any article like it.
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um.. actually, the Cuban model works fine, the state controls well over 90% of the economy (no scams or fraud, great consumer protection), paying workers salaries of about $20 a month in return for free health care and education, and nearly free transportation and housing (it's perfect!) at least a portion of every citizen's food needs are sold to them through ration books at heavily subsidized prices too (no one goes hungry and no corporations abuse them)
The Cuban model is one of the few that are really based on improving people's lives and I hope Castro doesn't get corrupted by America in to thinking it doesn't.
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H2O_4U:
The problem is that the Cuban government is in a debt of $30 billion because it cannot sustain its policies. Paying workers $20 a month means that people in Cuba earn less than $1 a day, hardly enough to get by with. As the popular saying in Cuba goes "They pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work."
Transportation is free, but a nightmare because the buses run very late and there are not enough of them. There is a housing crisis in Cuba, and there has actually been a decrease of housing units since the Revolution began, as buildings are not maintained and structures collapse due to neglect and disrepair. Combined with the fact that very few building projects have been built since 1959, and you have the housing crisis in Cuba you have today.
As for state employment, Raul Castro said it himself, the state employs an excess of 25% of its workforce. Just this year, they started cutting jobs because they did not need all the workers and now many Cubans are finding themselves without a job, and without the ability to start their own business (since that is mostly against the law).
Even the famous ration book is being cut back. The government has been announcing that due to costs, that it will have to reduce the ration book even more and that it plans to eliminate it. This is all news recently. Furthermore, the ration book has never really been able to provide enough food for the entire month, just for the first few days of the month. Cubans rely on the black market to find everything else they need.
The Cuban model is unsustainable because it has tried to centralize all economic decisions under a planned economy and has failed. Cuba is now in over $30 billion in debt and is struggling to pay the investors on the island who run the tourist hotels and foreign enterprises...
Investment has thus fallen 15% in 2009, and 14.9% in 2010 so far. The government is so caught up in paying back its debts that is cannot pay investors, so they are leaving Cuba. That is why they tried to lengthen the lease on lands from 50 years to 99 years... but nobody is falling for that anymore. The Cuban government has already won a reputation of the one that "spends now, and pays later."
And since the Cuban economy doesn't produce anything, the problem isn't getting any better. The sugar industry, of which Cuba controlled half of the world's market, nowadays doesn't even produce enough sugar for national consumption, and sugar is now imported into Cuba. The same goes for the coffee industry... and cattle, etc.
The Cuban model has been an unmitigated catastrophe... even so that Fidel Castro himself has admitted it.
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UrbanGypsy:
I see you're one of theses "let's privatize everything" kind of people
Maybe you want healthcare and transportation in the hands of greedy CEO's that only want to rob you but I'll stick with my socialism, thanks - 1 year ago
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H2O_4U:
I'll second that.
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H2O_4U:
Well, your socialism isn't working in Cuba. It's bankrupting the country if you haven't noticed and the government can't maintain its policies if it wishes to survive.
You are alone in this fight, because not even the leaders in Cuba agree with you.
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UrbanGypsy:
Oddly enough I read the article ..and re-read it to make sure I had not misread it and nowhere in the interview did i see where he said "The Cuban model has been an unmitigated catastrophe"
What i did read was he was quoted as saying ""The Cuban model doesn't even work for us anymore" that's a huge difference...and I didn't read where he thought that the lap dogs of Batista had been vindicated. - 1 year ago
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Tyr:
Why is it that everyone tries to associate the exile community with Batista? Just because we are against Castro does not mean we like Batista. Stop it. Batista was a corrupt dictator just the same, but Castro has proven to be ten times worse.
You have no right to call me a lap dog of Batista because me and my family were all born after the Revolution. We are not rich and we never were rich... and that goes for the majority of the exile community most of which was born after the Revolution. While we lived in Cuba we lived in poverty, so please... save the generalizations for yourself.
And, yes it is a catastrophe. Castro to admitting that it hasn't worked, is as much as you'll get out of him.
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UrbanGypsy:
Progressivism is a self-evident truth that will win in the end.
It's just a matter of getting obstructionist conservatives like you out of the picture.
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H2O_4U:
Castro and his revolution is progressivism? If that were the case, then I would gladly never call myself a progressive.
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UrbanGypsy:
Socialism is young and has made errors. Many times revolutionaries lack the knowledge and intellectual courage needed to meet the task of developing the new man with methods different from the conventional ones — and the conventional methods suffer from the influences of the society, which created them.
-Che
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H2O_4U:
Are you listening to yourself?
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jeffreyak:
In Cuba we have had to listen to people like him for 50 years.
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That was an amazing visit with Castro.
One has to give him credit for still learning, and for publicly admitting mistakes.
I'm no fan of repressive one party governments, but regardless of the darker times fighting a revolution, and trying to maintain it in opposition to massive and fierce entrenched US and establishment Cuban interests, he has very consistently shown that his concern has been for the people.
And, as I said in my own post of this article, he's still a charmer.I am curious about the interpretation of conservative business magazines like Forbes that assigns Castro a staggering amount of personal wealth.
Fidel was the son of a rich man in a patriarchal culture (illegitimate, I think) and an obsessive hands-on personality as well.
I'm curious (having known a few US entrepreneurs of similar personality) if he felt he had to control a big hunk of things (practically everything) himself, or if the designation of massive "personal" wealth to him is essentially wrong. I guess, at his age, that question will be resolved soon.US congressmen had plans to make Cuba a US territory long before the Spanish-American war. After, the Spanish-American war it was a very common assumption by many in the US government. I can see why Castro would still want to keep US investment at arm's length even if he has learned to encourage small business and investment from the rest of the world.
My brother (a staunch capitalist) and his family were there several years ago and had nice things to say about Cuba. I'd look forward to seeing Cuba myself soon. Great music and good people, I understand. - 1 year ago
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Sometimes the last guy to arrive at the party tells the funniest jokes. Castro has been the life of the party (actually many parties, both political and otherwise) quite often in the past. I certainly hope that he can be the catalyst of some sort of change. If it happens, I'll book tickets to Cuba almost immediately.
Early developmental activities are the easiest and most profitable. The job of setting up basic modern infrastructure will be enormous but not terribly challenging from a technical or financial point of view. Low hanging fruit.
The job of getting it "right" might be harder. Developing economies are also the ugliest, dirtiest most corrupt countries on the planet. Avoiding that will be a tremendous challenge. But China is a great example (of what to do and, quite often, what NOT to do).
A stunning opportunity, I would think. The chance to build a developing economy in the 21st century with the knowledge of how Asian development occurred in the 20th.
Cuba could be a puzzle that comes with instructions.
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AsiaSuperLoop