A G.O.P. Leader Tightly Bound to Lobbyists - NYTimes.com
source: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/us/politics/12boehner.html?src=me&ref=general
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House Democrats were preparing late last year for the first floor vote on the financial regulatory overhaul when Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio and other Republican leaders summoned more than 100 industry lobbyists and conservative political activists to Capitol Hill for a private strategy session.
The bill’s passage in the House already seemed inevitable. But Mr. Boehner and his deputies told the Wall Street lobbyists and trade association leaders that by teaming up, they could still perhaps block its final passage or at least water it down.
“We need you to get out there and speak up against this,” Mr. Boehner said that December afternoon, according to three people familiar with his remarks, while also warning against cutting side deals with Democrats.
That sort of alliance — they won a few skirmishes, though they lost the war on the regulatory bill — is business as usual for Mr. Boehner, the House minority leader and would-be speaker if Republicans win the House in November. He maintains especially tight ties with a circle of lobbyists and former aides representing some of the nation’s biggest businesses, including Goldman Sachs, Google, Citigroup, R. J. Reynolds, MillerCoors and UPS.
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Radical_Centrist
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Yet another example of how Obama is no better than your average Republican. http://current.com/news/92666133_aclu-sues-over-laptop-border-searches.htm
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Radical_Centrist
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grandavi:
I would LOVE to see some people from the Green Party, Libertarian party, & the Constitution Party elected to Congress. I mean they could not do any worse if they tried, and they just might do a lot better.
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Radical_Centrist
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bike10
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All this is missing are corporate logos.
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bike10
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bike10
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This will not be topic on Fox News.
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bike10
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FoosMaster
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This information may not be widely known by most people, and is ignored by Republicans, but this Surprises Nobody.
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FoosMaster
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EmperorThan
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In terms of pieces of shit Boehner is the biggest piece of shit of them all. That goes for Democrats or Republicans.
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EmperorThan
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Mark701
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Every politician ends up dealing with lobbyists. However, there are degrees of "cooperation". Boehner's cooperation however smacks of collusion. Here we had a US Congressmen actively working with corporate America to undermine common sense financial reform. If Boehner and the lobbyists got their way, NOTHING would have changed and Wall Street would be back to their shenanigans, comfortable in the knowledge that no matter how badly they screwed up, US taxpayers would be forced to bail them out. But you know what, Boehner doesn't care. If he's tossed out of office all he'll do is become a lobbyist at two or three times his congressional salary.
The system is broken and will stay broken as long as there is a financial umbilical cord connecting K Street to the US Congress. Boenher is nothing more than a corporate fascist whose sole interest is undermining the power of the US government such that we the people will have no realistic representation in DC.
My idea for a solution:
1) give lobbyists a choice, a)all their conversations with representatives of the federal government must be recorded, verbatim, and placed in an easily accessed, public on line database or; b)you can't do business with the federal government
2)Any willful violation of 1a or 1b is a felony punishable by a prison sentence and large fine.
Of course this will never happen because the people responsible for making these rules (congress) are already owned by the lobbyists.
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Mark701
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Schroeder
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Yup, that's Agent Orange...and every bit as toxic.
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Maeveeo
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Oh Please !
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Maeveeo
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Admirable
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Heh, Heh, Heh, The GOP leader's name is Boner...
Done with my best Beavis & Butthead imitation.
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Admirable
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Radical_Centrist
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I noticed someone voted my comment about Obama's hypocrisy on Lobbyists down. Ronald Reagan used to say "Facts are a stubborn thing."
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Radical_Centrist
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ezrierin
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Radical_Centrist:
Oh get use to it. Correct or incorrect there is always some crack head around here that will vote you, me, and anyone else down because of crack head reasons. Be cool fool, the waves are high but we’re still making a few knots just tossing the subject around! Peace. :)
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ezrierin
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Elevator
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all politicians are bound to lobbyists, thats their job.
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Elevator
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Elevator:
The thing is that the lobbyiests are suppose to give them facts to make the right decisions.... not bribe them...
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Username6555:
LOL
Yes thats EXACTLY what lobbyist are "supposed" to do...
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Radical_Centrist
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And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Matthew 7:3
candidate Obama declared back in 2007, "our leaders have thrown open the door of Congress and the White House to an army of Washington lobbyists who have turned government into a game only they can play." In the past 18 months, that hasn't changed.
During the campaign, top drug lobbyist Billy Tauzin had been Obama's poster boy for the revolving door, even starring as the villain in an Obama ad titled "Billy." Then came the fight to pass Obamacare. In the summer of 2009, Tauzin met in the West Wing with White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel and cut a deal pledging PhRMA's support if the White House promised to protect and subsidize drug companies.
Candidate Obama also pledged to "close the revolving door between K Street and the executive branch." He hasn't even come close. Already a handful of administration staffers has cashed out. Fannie Mae alumnus Damon Munchus left Obama's Treasury for a K Street firm representing Citigroup and hedge funds. Former campaign aide and Labor Department staffer Oscar Ramirez joined the Podesta Group, representing Bank of America and Google. Grant Leslie was senior adviser to Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack before she joined the Glover Park Group where she represents DuPont and Coca-Cola. Former White House Counsel Greg Craig is at Goldman Sachs.
Obama, admittedly, has more control over the other side of the revolving door -- lobbyists entering his administration. Obama's promise: "They won't work in my White House." In his first State of the Union address, Obama declared victory on this score: "We have excluded lobbyists from policymaking jobs."
But in the previous 12 months, the Obama administration had hired at least 45 former lobbyists to policymaking jobs, including five Cabinet slots. A former lobbyist for the Swiss Bankers Association is the general counsel at the IRS, and a former Goldman lobbyist is chief of staff at the Treasury Department. Monsanto's former chief lobbyist is the FDA's deputy commissioner for foods. When Obama got rid of his ethics czar this summer, he transferred White House transparency duties to former lobbyist Bob Bauer.
This doesn't count the "nonlobbyist lobbyists" like Liz Fowler, who was vice president of public policy at WellPoint, the nation's largest insurer, but never registered as a lobbyist. After Obamacare passed, she joined the Department of Health and Human Services.
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Radical_Centrist
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Radical_Centrist:
No one said the Democratic party is perfect.
They are without a doubt the lesser of two evils- but the Republicans are SO evil, I mean over the top twirly mustache and monocle evil, that they make the Democrats seem angelic in comparison.
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UtopianSky
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UtopianSky:
Obama has more OVERT lobbyists in his administration than W. did. What I do not get about people who talk about supporting the lesser of two evils is you are still supporting evil. The truth of the matter is this if you put all the members of congress together you might have 25 who are honest from both parties. The rest would not be worth pissing on if they were on fire.
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Radical_Centrist
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Radical_Centrist:
Yup, your right! Obama needs a lesson in real leadership; he has his desire to compromise so down pat, he gives 50% of everything that would help the middle class away before even negotiating! He even lets the old school corporate a-holes in the back door of the White House.
But I would rather have Obama guarding the hen house then another Bush! At least Obama cares about the welfare of the common people, all Bush cared to do was rape them!!! All the Republican Leadership cares to do is get sloppy seconds!
My fellow Americans, if you really want change in our government, we might consider electing a liberal congress and a liberal president for the first time since FDR. - 1 year ago
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ezrierin
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UtopianSky:
Arguing that group A is evil but less evil then group B is a pretty pathetic argument.
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Elevator
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ezrierin
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Elevator:
YES! Exactly! But it is the only pathetic argument we have! So I chose the lesser of two, of two, ahh, I try to pick the guy who will take me gentle and use lube before I get… ! LOL! You know what I mean. ;)
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ezrierin
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UtopianSky
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Elevator:
No, it's a realistic one.
Pie in the sky idealism is simply naive.
We live in the real world, with real human beings. - 1 year ago
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UtopianSky
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Radical_Centrist
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Elevator:
I must admit up until about 9 years ago I use to do the same. I would hold my nose and vote for the least nauseating of the two I then had an epiphany. Harold when you vote for the lesser of two evils you are still voting for evil. People NEED to wake up and realize there are other Political Parties out there besides the Republithugs and the Demoncrats.
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Radical_Centrist
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Radical_Centrist
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UtopianSky:
What is so realistic about settling for less than you deserve?
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Radical_Centrist
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UtopianSky
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Radical_Centrist:
That is pretty much the definition of the word "realistic".
It's realistic to accept the best that can be done when what you think you "deserve" can not even exist.
Don't fall for naive idealism, like the girl who waits for prince charming to come riding up on a white stallion, so she does not even notice that the boy who mows the lawn thinks she's cute.
A wise man once said, you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need.
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UtopianSky
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Radical_Centrist:
Then, you NEED to wake up and realize that the other political parties are STILL political parties. They are filled with humans, not angels.
The only reason no lobbyists are buying their influence is because they have no influence.
If they did, they would be bought and sold just like any other politician.
As a wise man one said, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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UtopianSky
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Radical_Centrist
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UtopianSky:
Your logic MIGHT be logical if there were only two choices out there. You CHOOSE to vote for the lesser of two evils instead of not voting for evil at all.
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Radical_Centrist
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UtopianSky:
I am NOT saying the other Parties are filled with perfect individuals, but I do believe they are for the most part not filled with people who are so crooked that they have to SCREW their socks on in the morning.
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Radical_Centrist
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UtopianSky
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Radical_Centrist:
No, my logic IS logical because there is only ONE choice out there- humans.
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UtopianSky
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Radical_Centrist:
So, you chide me for accepting the lesser of TWO evils,
when you pick the lesser of THREE evils?At least my evils can actually get elected, and, on occasion, actually get some good done.
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UtopianSky
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Well ya, the latest numbers show that the vast majority of corporation donatons have gone to the Republican party. What i find interesting is that the majority of private donations (everyday people) go to the Democrat party. Hmmmmm, which party cares for the people again?
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UtopianSky
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And yet, the morons out there keep voting Republican,
and keep these people in power.News flash- they don't care about the middle and working classes.
They just want you to vote for them.And now, in rebuttal, one of our standard trolls will post a photo of Obama with a turban and a swastika.
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UtopianSky
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UtopianSky:
I think they prefer the term Moran to Moron.
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toyotabedzrock
