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Cognitive Infiltration: Does it happen here , on current ?

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91 comments // Cognitive Infiltration: Does it happen here , on current ?

  • iamaman
  • maasanova
    • 0
      maasanova  

    • That thread where it was announced that an MTV exec had taken over Current was epic!

      As far as cognitive infiltration happening here on Current? I don't think there is the same kind of professional infiltration that happens on more larger forums like YouTube and Digg. Just small time psuedo-intellectuals with an opinion that's all, nothing to be concerned with. Current is small time.

    • 1 year ago
  • flyingkick
    • +3
      flyingkick  

    • Can the old pods be accessed somewhere or did they all just get deleted?

      That's a shame if all that cultural data just got trashed.

    • 1 year ago
  • CalgarC
    • +4
      CalgarC  

    • lol mtv sucks... plus i truly think the corps are trying to find a way to tame this site, i miss vicky, i miss all the vs2 and i miss all the video tutorials and that massive ipm library of music :D

    • 1 year ago
  • flyingkick
    • +7
      flyingkick  

    • This doesn't happen on Current, lol.
      Current would actually be a lot more interesting if it did.

      To me, Current has always been a form of intellectual exercise. You're building up a sort of intellectual self-defense by testing and defending your own ideas and interpretations of the world. That way, in the real world, you can be armed and prepared for some of the bullshit people throw around.

    • 1 year ago
  • ezrierin
    • +3
      ezrierin  

    • Debunking conspiracy theories is a good thing. We all know that Bush and Condoleezza Rice admitted to at the very least ignoring the report that said Al Qaeda was going to strike us any time. They allowed 9/11 to happen by probably pretending to ignore the report. We had to have hearings to dig that bit of truth out of them.
      Cheney was in the control room over the air force and someone, no one in the entire control room, can remember who gave the order to not shot down the aircraft. I have often wondered if all those troops are now dead, just like everyone in the crowd that was closest to President Kennedy when he was shot. Where are those air force troops now??? What was Cheney doing there? We never have had an answer to that. While all that was happening are we to believe Cheney was in the toilet reading a newspaper? Please.
      OMG, now there is the beginning of a few new conspiracy theories right out of my own mouth! Where are those air force personnel? What paper was Cheney reading in the John for 45 minutes?
      The problem is that the government, Republican AND Democrat have lied to us so much, that conspiracy theories are a natural result. People want the truth. Yet without access to real information they will be drawn to BS and make answers in their minds.
      BTW, I would like to know why a video of the tower looks like the ends of the horizontal support cables in the cement corners of the building looks like they are blowing out in succession. Maybe a few could be stretched and pop out, but every one in the film? No F’ing way. Has anyone explained that? Has anyone noticed beside me? I only noticed because I took one course in fire science at the U. And so I create just another conspiracy theory.
      If the Gov does not want us to be chasing aliens, or blaming LBJ for 9/11 in 10 years, maybe they should stop lying and hiding the truth from us all the time.

    • 1 year ago
  • EmperorThan
  • ocanada
    • +4
      ocanada  

    • Current didn't sell out to MTV. They just hired MTV to run their company. The executive is a former MTV head. If you wondered why there was a qualitative shift look no further because let's be frank the people who post here aren't fond of MTV for good reason. Namely that it's a tv station devoid of principle, shallow, self parodying, sack of shit. So much so Current often made fun of it on it's popular culture shows like Infomania and Super News.

    • 1 year ago
  • ghostofamerica
  • Nick19
    • +1
      Nick19  

    • Okay, so the government hires nerds to inform crazy conspiracy nerds about their ideas being wrong? Sounds a bit far out there.

    • 1 year ago
  • Nephwrack
  • Nick19
  • Nephwrack
  • remanns
  • diode
    • +1
      diode  

    • if anyone takes anything seriously on current, and i mean anything, from staff, to members, contributions and votes and (especially) comments, they are deluding themselves and need a serious fucking wake up call

    • 1 year ago
  • lordsbassman
  • Einsam_Data_Old
  • diode
    • +1
      diode  
    • Einsam_Data_Old:

      i'm more referring to the mental state/capacity of the users. this is a third rate news site/forum with small amounts of traffic with a lot of trolls and people who like to cause controversy (like most people on the internet). letting myself get affected by what someone comments is silly. fyi the real current died 2 years ago, this current current is a joke

    • 1 year ago
  • ibrake4rappers13
  • Fr_Gregory
    • +1
      Fr_Gregory  

    • Propaganda has been a staple of the ruling class for hundreds of years.
      In the days of yore they used people to incite the masses with rumors. One told another who added to the rumor his own opinion and on it went.

      If you take 30 individuals at a table, 15 on each side, and make a simple statement to the first person on either side and have them pass it down to the next person until it reaches the last two persons at the table, the statement will be completely changed in substance and form.

    • 1 year ago
  • Progresshiv
    • +8
      Progresshiv  

    • Yes. Here's an interesting piece someone I know sent me that addresses control of information:

      There is an incredibly strong drive, probably genetic, to "keep the game going" and hope that it can be fixed. This is a serious delusion. Obama is working to stave off the "unthinkable" situation of total economic collapse. But it is becoming increasingly clear that the only way people will figure out that it's time to do something is when the bottom falls out completely.

      The problem is that the moguls have insulated themselves from risk quite well. The overlapping directorships of the real ruling class now span all the major manufacturing and media corporations. Politicians have "come to terms" with the situation and will do whatever it takes to stay in office, or at least stay on the list of "team players." When the first tremors of the economic armageddon hit, the fat cats will fall back on the tried and true propaganda: Don't sacrifice your kid's future by doing anything radical. Translation: Toe the line or starve.

      The real problem is that the economy has to tank and stay down for at least three years before people figure out that they have nothing to lose by going "radical." This means that the unemployment of white "middle class" workers has to hit and hold at 30 percent. This in turn means that there will be a lot of very ugly class and race conflict. This also means that there will have to be a major radical movement that will have "take back your country" as its main theme. Since there will be a lot of very smart people out on the street, there will be a major change in communications. My belief is that the internet will not be the framework for the revolution. Rather it will be cell phones. There was an anti-government movement in the Philippines a while ago that organized a million people to form a "flash mob" protest. The shock to the military and police to be suddenly faced with a crowd of a million people that suddenly appeared was severe. That the flash mob dispersed and seemingly vanished was even more of a shock.

      So we know that the organizing can be done. All it will take is perhaps five thousand people who come to realize that they have absolutely nothing to lose to form a seriously dangerous revolutionary group. Five thousand people who can reject political "isms" and focus on one simple goal: Revenge, plain and simple.

      The future is not going to be pretty. The rich and powerful have their enclaves and their private security forces. The "newly poor" will have numbers and anger. And they will be everywhere. And they will look just like everybody else.

      Let's hope that the revolution will not wind up on sale at Wal-Mart.

      Time for my cookies and milk.

    • 1 year ago
  • Incredulous
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      Incredulous  
    • Progresshiv:

      that whole "flash mob" thing is pretty compelling....looks over shoulder and out window, hears neighbor's dog bark and bites nail nervously....I would love, just once, to see some fat ass pork chop of a cop caught beating someone, video sent over the cell, and have that "flash mob" just show up, instantaneously, maybe not even say a word, just surround the cop and stare him down.

      Yeah, time for my cookies and milk too.

    • 1 year ago
  • ampersand
    • +3
      ampersand  
    • Progresshiv:

      Although I think much of that projection is wishful thinking, it's a thread of wishful thinking I share at times. There are so many things I actively don't support I wonder what the nation would look like if just 30% of us just "walked out"so to speak at the same level I have.
      I'm Celtic enough to like the romantic image of it, but with that same fatalism in regard to my fellow 'mericans, I don't see it really happening.
      Most of them still have the telly on even when they are out of work and complaining about being screwed every time they turn around. And, to be brutally frank, I wouldn't trust most of them to organize a two car funeral.

    • 1 year ago
  • Incredulous
  • Progresshiv
    • +2
      Progresshiv  
    • ampersand:

      I have quit jobs before, and it shattered my personal life to so so; however, I found new work in better circumstances. It was only fear that kept me under the thumb of unfair employers. The universe is not malign- simply indifferent- and we have to make choices to create better lives for ourselves.

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
  • ampersand
    • +2
      ampersand  
    • Progresshiv:

      I admire your ability to connect in New York. The saying is that if you can make it there you can make it anywhere. I didn't give it too much of chance, myself. Being a bit of a country mouse I found I couldn't sleep there. I had the best of circumstance but I felt like I was in a pin-ball machine.
      However, as the years go by, I find my visits there easier. Maybe age is beginning to mellow me. Hope so. I could use a bit more of that.

    • 1 year ago
  • ampersand
  • Nick19
  • mik661
    • +4
      mik661  
    • Progresshiv:

      what is more likely is that much like now fear will be utilized and any "radical" revolution is likely to be in the form of a straight up totalitarian goverment being formed that will throw off the cloak of "democracy" that we have now. people are sheep and scared sheep are even easier to stampede right off the cliff.

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
  • artemis6
  • Sparky2U
    • +1
      Sparky2U  
    • Progresshiv:

      People often ask me why I started my own company, the hastle, the responsibility and so on must be hard.....Truth be told I am a "loose canon" and I hate the Unions. I was tired of telling contractors who were clueless to kiss my butt.
      I had acquired enough time in the electrical field to take my Masters Exam, so I did and I passed it with ease. I've been an industrial - commercial electrical contractor for more than 20 years now. Has it been hard...yes, worth it? Hell Yes.

    • 1 year ago
  • Sparky2U
    • 0
      Sparky2U  
    • mik661:

      Pitch some feed in the trough and the sheep will come running for it. They could graze on their own but hell an easy, free of work meal is all they want. Wait... Eurika! I just discovered the definition of a Liberal Dem.

    • 1 year ago
  • mik661
    • +1
      mik661  
    • Sparky2U:

      No i was thinking more along the lines of tea party members and red necks who are scared of muslims, black men and being a minority who would sell their soul to anyone who promised to make things like they used to be. Hey i just discovered the definition of a conservative!

    • 1 year ago
  • Progresshiv
  • Progresshiv
  • jubal
  • jubal
  • ayipis
    • -16
      ayipis  

    • I am not surprised that it would take a liberal to do something like this..

      THANKS FOR THE VOTE FOR CHANGE..MFERS..LOL

    • 1 year ago
  • Stoneyroad
  • themotivateddropout
  • artemis6
  • Nephwrack
  • JanforGore
    • +11
      JanforGore  

    • Does it happen here on Current? As in, do companies and other agencies conspire to infiltrate websites to cause dissention and doubt about certain opinions and facts brought forth by certain people? You bet it does. It was in so many words admitted as such when I started posting about Monsanto here a couple of years ago. They had sock puppets on this site voting every post down in groups to keep it from rising up the ranks to be seen. I have no doubt there are still people assigned to certain websites on the Internet to also infiltrate them regarding spreading misinformation to debunk climate change and to also cause political dissention, especially in election years. It is a known fact that many large corporations actually budget for it in their PR budgets. The thing to remember however, is when you have the truth and the courage of your convictions on your side, no nutball sitting in a rented office trailer in podunk being paid to post propaganda can change those facts, that truth, or the courage of your convictions. It certainly won't change mine.

    • 1 year ago
  • ayipis
    • -11
      ayipis  
    • JanforGore:

      well you were leading on about global warming for a long time now..i am yet to experience a really 'WARM' summer here in southern california..

      i hope you were not the ones that were trying to make sense out of that ranting that global WARMING is causing all the harsh winter weather we were having..

      i go by what i see and what i feel..not by what some politician turn eco man is trying to $$$$ELL to people...

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • JanforGore
    • +3
      JanforGore  
    • ayipis:

      I don't even know how you find your way to turn your computer on, let alone to even begin to comprehend how climate change is affecting this planet in all regions. And if by your comment you mean to defend those I described above, you really are an idiot.

    • 1 year ago
  • rodstradamus
    • -7
      rodstradamus  
    • JanforGore:

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4860344067427439443#
      Somebody hasn't watched "Global Warming or Global Governance"! The only "conspiracy" is Al Gore's Ponzi Scheme. Be careful who you call an idiot, b/c you sound like an elitist, eco-fascist using typical character assassination and ad hominem as a weak attempt to discredit. Typical. If you only google'd "Al Gore Monsanto," you'd realize how much of a hypocrite you are. Drop Gore, fight the NWO and really help the environment.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • JanforGore
    • +6
      JanforGore  
    • rodstradamus:

      And my post was meant exactlly for crap like this. Working to mitigate and adapt to climate change and hold polluters and politicians accountable is not part of the NWO, but supporting its exceleration which YOU are doing as well as supporting THEM with your pablum on it is. How ironic.

    • 1 year ago
  • JanforGore
    • +4
      JanforGore  
    • Vierotchka:

      Amen. And look at these words to see the real agenda: DROP GORE. In your dreams. Al Gore has done more to benefit this planet than you ever will posting this garbage. You need to be debriefed.

    • 1 year ago
  • themotivateddropout
    • +4
      themotivateddropout  
    • ayipis:

      You're right!
      The only way to judge a global crisis is by what YOU see and feel, and NOTHING else!
      How have I lived so blindly?
      I thought all of the extreme shifts in the temperature and weather, including polar ice caps melting and ozone depletion, were sure fire signs that maybe their was more to global warming than just "Conspiracy Theories"!

      You're a brilliant person.
      You should start your own website.
      LOL.

    • 1 year ago
  • themotivateddropout
  • artemis6
  • artemis6
    • +3
      artemis6  
    • JanforGore:

      The objective is to discourage people like you , convince the general public , that you are simply a fringe element , over reacting and so on ..... while they use the pied pipers of the tea party , to further their agenda . The dumbing down of a generation seems to have paid off . They will no longer be teaching problem solving skills ...... for instance .

    • 1 year ago
  • JanforGore
    • +3
      JanforGore  
    • artemis6:

      "The objective is to discourage people like you"

      Which they will never do, Artemis. ;-) We have the power to fight back and must, especially considering that our chilldren's futures are on the line here. There is nothing more important than that and their diversionary tactics must be met head on. For too long those who peddle their lies to discourage truth at the expense of our environment and what we stand for have set the debate in this country and it matters not the party. It is time for them to understand that they can't and won't shut us all up.

    • 1 year ago
  • CarlosIsDown
  • MrMxyzptlk
  • artemis6
  • artemis6
  • Sparky2U
  • jubal
  • jubal
  • onemalefla
  • ayipis
    • -8
      ayipis  
    • onemalefla:

      well lets see who is starting this shit........

      "Cognitive Infiltration: An Obama Appointee’s Plan to Undermine the 9/11 Conspiracy Theory

      Recommended Read from Project Censored

      (Olive Branch Press, September 2010), by David Ray Griffin

      Griffin’s meritorious effort to raise public awareness and understanding

      Former Chicago and Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, who in 2009 was appointed by President Barack Obama to direct an important executive branch office, had in 2008 co-authored an article containing a plan for the government to prevent the spread of anti-government “conspiracy theories.”

      oppssss...

    • 1 year ago
  • themotivateddropout
    • +4
      themotivateddropout  
    • ayipis:

      You're right!
      OBAMA started it all!

      Never in our history did a president or political figure ever try to dilute the truth by smothering anti-government conspiracy theories.

      I can always tell when you copy and paste.
      And their are two o's in oops.
      You think with all the unnecessary letters you threw in you could've tossed in an extra o.

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
  • kennymotown
  • ayipis
  • Vierotchka
  • thetrimsmith
  • themotivateddropout
  • artemis6
  • artemis6
    • +1
      artemis6  
    • ayipis:

      At this point , it seems to matter less and less who heads the government , because corporate backing steers the national resources . Right into their pockets ! Obama is smart enough to be doing what he can , even as he does largely what he is told . I am not sure Bush ever caught on . It is up to us .

    • 1 year ago
  • kennymotown
  • KSirys
    • +1
      KSirys  

    • Current is just like any other news site... they will put anything on, unless is something they don't like...

    • 1 year ago
  • tverdell
    • tverdell  
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  • toyotabedzrock
  • tverdell
  • donkeyfly69
    • 0
      donkeyfly69  
    • tverdell:

      rankings on current (to my knowledge) use a system of ranking (the up and down votes), time and date, the number of comments and responses, and the ranking of those responses. i think certain staff posts get put on to the top ten initially as well

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
  • artemis6
  • kennymotown
  • artemis6
    • +3
      artemis6  
    • kennymotown:

      That is what they want . These new school testing methods and grading will try and prevent kids from stumbling on to it . Still , with the web still mostly open and public libraries , some will slip through ... but , not most .

    • 1 year ago
  • kennymotown
  • artemis6
  • kennymotown
  • existentialist
  • artemis6
  • existentialist
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