Pope Benedict XVI goes to war with 'atheist extremism'

Preach your garbage somewhere else.
What does dope have to do with this story?
Why is it those who speak ill of smoking dope are usually dumber than stoners?

LOL....person who does not smoke dope are dumber than stoners????

LOL is it that kind logic that those who drinks a lot of liquor lives longer than those who does not....

okay keep on smoking dope and keep on drinking HAHAH

No not someone who doesn't smoke, someone who has a bad opinion of smoking and those that do it.
Read my post before you respond, I'm sick of shoveling through your typographical diarrhea to figure out what you're trying to say.

And when did drinking get involved in the conversation?
Is that your go-to defense tactic?
Somebody calls you out on you trolling shit and you bring up some random point that doesn't relate to anything?

Answer my question:
What does smoking dope have to do with this article, besides an outlet for you to spew your one note anti-smoking propaganda?

so what do we do with all the al gore zombies??

Use them as alternative fuel sources?

isnt that one of those liberal rock bank??

no .

without religion there would be no religion.

if there is no religion..your great great great great ganddaddy would had married your great great great great grand aunt..

like i said the only thing that kept humanity in line was FEAR..and that would be fear of God..

and if there is no religion there would be no atheism..

"In a nutshell religion have some disciplines that would actually help society NOW"

What religion?
Which disciplines?

And without religion we wouldn't need atheism.

and if there is no religion there would be no need for atheism..

a golem??..athiest dont believe in GOD..let alone a golem,,

you need about as much faith in god for the golam folk story as you would need for paul bunyon.glad to see you are keeping to you pattern of talking way out of turn.dont ever change

wondering on where you stand on all religion.............particularly ..Islam..it seems like you are avid defender of this RELIGION...

brings suspicion that you have a more sinister agenda..

wondering on where you stand on all religion

really? every comment you have to offer is based in character attacks, usualy without merit but im to believe you have a genuine interest in my stance on religion? why would any reasonable person even dignify it with your history of disrespect and school yard name calling.make up what ever you would like, cuz in the end that is how you roll anyway.

brings suspicion that you have a more sinister agenda..

only if you are racist does advocating for other peoples right to thier perspectives seem sinister.like im a jihadist who soft sells lol.like im a literary terrorist? have ya seen my spelling? im clearly not working to an effect of any sort if the terms are the written word.

i have a question for you?
is it time consuming to hate so much so often?

ahh so your being sarcastic about the golem idea...LOL

so speaking about keeping up with "patterns"..

hows the saving the koran crusade you are so involved in doing?? and should i assume you hate catholics priests and pedophilia ..

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/to-rid-islam-of-pedophilia-muslim-must-dis...

"The Associated Press reported: "Some of Yemen's most influential Islamic leaders, including one the U.S. says mentored Osama bin Laden, have declared supporters of a ban on child brides to be apostates", in protest to a proposal by the government to ban marriage of underage girls.

Meanwhile, on Sunday March 20, thousands of Yemeni women, clad in head-to-toe Islamic veils, demonstrated outside the parliament, opposing the proposed legislation. They carried banners proclaiming "don’t ban what Allah made permissible” or "stop violating Islamic Sharia law in the name of rights and freedoms”.

Houriya Mashhour, deputy director of Yemen's Women National Committee, could only say this to support the legislation: “It is unreasonable to marry our daughters at the age of eight or nine. This is a serious problem.”

She could only appeal to “reason”, not to “Islam”, to support the proposed child-marriage ban.

While Islamic clerics, both fundamentalist and moderate Sufi, as well as Muslim women supported child-marriage and pedophilia in Islam proudly and loudly in Yemen and Indonesia, without raising condemnation from any quarter whatsoever, Tarek Fatah, a self-proclaimed “moderate”, “liberal” and “hardened secular” Muslim, blasted Wafa Sultan, a ex-Muslim critic of Islam, for mentioning, during a debate with Dr. Daniel Pipes in Toronto, the fact on the basis of which Muslim societies practice and support pedophilia. And that fact is: Muhammad was a child-molester, because he, aged 54, consummated his marriage to Aisha, after waiting three years, when she turned 9."

LOL....

read your comment and then think about what you had accused me with..

well it was a pretty simple question and you pretty much responsed with racist remarks coated with character attacks..

come on..your falling apartt here over a simple question..

again, where do you stand ON ALL RELIGION..particularly ISLAM?? (do you want me to ask that in arab??)

...(i checked your past comments and you seem to have this fondness for ISLAM and a pretty deep disdain from both Jewish and Catholic religion.

im sarcastic with those who dont desire substative exchange of thought.i know the new format only goes back 20 pages, but feel free (again for the umpteenth time) to check these things before you speak (type).

im on no save the quran crusade.make quran burning your way of using alternative fuels for all i care.you even have what little agenda i have mixed up.but the little secret is, that when one utilizes his/her freedom of speech or expresion they become subject to what ever it illicets.you do some dumb shit publicaly, your going to be mocked publicaly.thats kind of how free speech works.

i dont hate nyperso who hasnt earned it, like how you have.i have no hatred towards any catholic priests as i know none.i do how ever hate the institution of the catholic church for reasons far beyond your simple ability to understand.

i have no idea why you posted the muslim shit, but if it makes you happy i guess that is all that matters.

i respond in kind buddy.bring shit get shit, bring philosophy get it in return, just that simple.what i accuse you of is not unacceptable by some archaic civil stanard i have created, but represents the totality of your contributions.you are a troll who has no interest in respectfull exchange, and thats what you get.

racist? not even close.especially as i have no idea what rac you are.

i will not have a conversation about something as reverential as faith with you.that was the point of my previous statement.assume what you like, as facts matter little to you in your commentary.
arabic not arab, but i was being racist huh?

continue observing ones pathology of thought and you will learn more about them than they will ever tell you.especially as you dont foster a climate for reasonable exchange.

it was a tailored speech for free europe where the feeling is that christianity is dead as a result of athiesm.just like how the pope didnt feel compelled to mention the evils of athiesm when in africa, just the evils of safe sex as that is africas issue.

well he is true about it...condoms is not going to save them from AIDS..not fucking like apes will..

no actualy condoms do literaly save people from contracting aids.
if you dont believe me by all means raw dog a few hookers and see if your hetero missionary style sex saves you from the hiv.please i eagerly await the result.

Why wouldn't it?
Do you understand the HIV virus and the way it spreads?

i believe it was an issue in africa that the pope commented about that..well why dont we see the results..

where is africa now on AIDS??????????????

so when you are about to "raw dog a few hookers" do you really think you would bother to pull out a condom??? only an idiot would think that...

condoms work..IF YOU USE IT.....and of course you failed to understand the part "IF YOU USE IT"...

i do..but i know how the human mind thinks..in an ideal world where every male has a condom in is wallet and has the mind (if it remains sober or drug free) THEN IT MIGHT WORK..

so in some case in africa,,,, do you really think a dude that does not even have indoor plumbing would have a condom handy???

idiots and gay organizations had been pushing for condom use..is it working??? AIDS from sexual contact went down at all???

its like saying..you can stop poverty by having a LIVE8 concert..only an idiot would believe that

Ok so condoms don't work for people who can't get them.
No shit.
Missiles don't work for me because I can't get one.
That doesn't mean they don't work.

You know how the human mind "thinks"?
Really?
How is that relevant in this particular conversation?

africa is now better off than previously in terms of aids cases as a result of distribution of condoms and education.the evidence stands as a testament to how rediculously wrong you are.

you believe no one both pays for sex and uses a condom? do you even understand "raw dog", cuz it doeant seem so.

right condoms work if you use them.if you advocate against them in favor of abstinance you are speading a means by wich more std's will be proliferated as self control in this regard is, and has been through out the entirety of humantiy, is nill.

wow you are retarded.yes even the hut dwilling africans who wipe thier ass's with thier hands have access to condoms as WE as well as a myriad of world health agencies flood the continent with them.

condom use it working as homosexuals went from the number one group infected to i believe now 5th behind teen girls.thats right, safe anal has less instances of hiv transmission than unprotected hetero sex.

aids has actually decreased here to levels requiring we remind our kids about it.that is how not front and center it is, it almost became an after thought.

The Pope is infallible, it goes along with the job, so no wonder he's pissed off at them to even dare to presume to have such a nerve as that.

Theory and execution are always different.

those fucking popes take a long time to die

...mmm...

...he gets his feet washed
...he has his own city
...he has a noddy car...
...and wakes every morning to the chant..."who's our daddy"...

...click those red shoes, pappy, you're in deep doo doo...

wow! how dare you make fun of a person with severe, severe autism. Scratch that, billions upon billions of persons.

Ha ha zing.

those hats are pricey.

yeah, they are even preparing to make Pacelli, (Pius XII) a "saint" - perhaps he can be the patron saint of Chickensh•ts who remain silent in the face of mass murder

but they got their Reichs Concordat, and that's all that really mattered.

Not all of them, there was a lot of back and forth, but they lost more than half of them and especially the last few.

Agreed....you have a valid point there

Atheist Extremists are the ones that are militant about it and try to force their point of view onto others. I'm sure you've noticed them around.

Yeah exactly im sure youve heard of those damn atheist extremists burning Qurans and detonating roadside bombs! Oh wait... "atheist extremists" only call bullshit on the stupid shit people try to pass off as "the Truth". Sorry theyre so vocal? They should keep their rationality to themselves...

Extremists of any kind are dangerous because they depend on absolutes. Getting stuck in any one perspective to the exclusion of all others can't be construed as "the Truth"

Keeping it to themselves would be a better idea because no one ever changed their mind from someone shouting in their face that they were wrong, especially if someone were only partially right.

Actually, being vociferous in opposition to bad ideas DOES change peoples minds, and that's why pedophile protectors like Ratzinger want us to shut up and stop making his organization loose money. Sorry, but extremists are not those who simply believe something strongly. We're really in danger of people who shut off their minds to argument and evidence. In other words, religion itself.

Losing money doesn't change people's minds, just makes them change their tactics like distracting them with a "war" to rally the faithful.

"We're really in danger of people who shut off their minds to argument and evidence." is great point. The problem is that dogma comes in many forms not just religious

I never said otherwise, but it's ridiculous for a man leading an organization based on that kind of dogmatic faith to chastise others for extremism. That's the whole point of his belief structure. And the evidence does not show support this imagined propensity of non-religious people to be 'extremist.' Religion is the culprit in that regard, because it's basic structure of faith and authority lead to this kind of delusional absolutism.

Yes it is ridiculous for that kind of hypocrisy. But hypocrisy is not only confined to that particular instance.

It depends on what you have faith in and bow to what authority without evidence that leads to all kinds of extremism when the evidence is ignored in the passion of the argument that will drive people into "delusional absolutism"

Faith itself should be discarded. Truth is not found in suspending rational thought and embracing ideas regardless of their merit. Also, I would argue that bowing to any authority is an exercise in servile stupidity, and an abdication of our moral duty to think for ourselves.

I'd agree with that, but extremists always take it way beyond that into that delusional absolutionism you mentioned

What exactly do extremists take way beyond that? It's not clear from your response what you are referring to.

Their actions and beliefs. They go beyond embracing ideas on their merit, suspend rational thought, bow to authority without evidence and abdicate their moral duty to think for themselves.

It happens with all extremists not just religious ones

I agree. However, it would be unwise to ignore the particular way religion fosters extremism more so than most secular pursuits. This is not to discount either the danger or existence of non-religious specific extremism, but simply to acknowledge that the system of faith, dogma and obedience more easily lends itself to extremism of any kind. This is why allowing religion legitimacy is problematic, not simply because it largely fails to merit it, but also because it creates a perception of acceptability by which unscrupulous extremism can thrive and corrupt.

But it doesn't help to offer another form of dogma and extremism since they also perceive that as illegitimate and an alternative that isn't worth it so they cling to the familiar.

As the saying goes "better the devil you know"