O'Donnell In 2006: Homosexuality 'An Identity Disorder'

sounds like Oprah now and at the age 41! lol

seriously, the focus should be on rational candidates who have a chance of winning. not bat-shit-crazy lunatics

salparadi5e it is a pavlovian response; they cannot help it. They see a clown and immediately they start throwing their pies.

That's just not true. You only label Homosexuality as a "disorder" because you are defining Heterosexuality as the norm. Yet when we accept that BOTH homo- & heterosexuality are normal, NEITHER would be defined as a "disorder."

So, while you mean well, you are wrong. Homosexuality & Heterosexuality both normally and regularly occur in nature, and each is normal. Therefore, neither is a disorder.

Do you consider being left handed a "disorder"?

You are wrong.
being a pedophile is not normal but a pedophile would say he has a normal lust for children
Incest is not normal yet many primitive societies and royal families would say its normal to marry your sister or child.(History of Mid east and European royal families)

Cannibalism is not normal but a cannibal would disagree.

Pedophiles,Incest and cannibalism
using your argument all we have to do is "define "these as normal and they would be socially acceptable.

However Ill not get into an argument over homosexuality as once the Muslim take control they will kill all the homosexuals. And they will take over as you liberals will not stand against them and their are not enough of us Americans to defeat them.

That the best you can come up with.

What is a disorder depends on how your world view of what is "order."

I base my definition of order on reason and logic rather than canned morals. Most people sexually invested in the same sex are functioning members of society. If you believe that homosexuality affects the world outside of the bedroom differently than heterosexuality, you've got some stereotypes you need to check.

The only disorder particularly involving homosexuality (as opposed to sexuality in general) occurs when those who partake in it are discriminated against, oppressed, abused or damaged by heterosexist or homophobic peers. These peers create chaos and thus are unable to function within otherwise perfectly functioning communities. As many people might say racism and sexism are disorders, heterosexism and homophobia are disorders in the same vein.

But disorders are a quirky subject. Some believe disorders are based in nature, while others believe that they are societal constructs. Regardless of your stance, we should not accept chaos in an appeal to nature. We are sentient people capable of bringing order out of chaos. We should strive to make everyone a contributing and functioning member of our society so that we can continue to grow as a people.

Does that mean we need thought police telling everyone what to think and how to act? No, but it means we need to deal with real problems with real consequences in society. Homosexuality has no real negative consequence while heterosexism and homophobia can have disastrous impact on the well-being of individuals and communities. Insecurities, paranoia and stereotypes are the root of the the problem. The solution is education and interaction with homosexuals, and for the more serious cases a combination of psychological evaluation, counseling and therapy.

"Homosexuality" is only a disorder if one decides the sole purpose of human sexuality is the production of children - a limited point of view to be sure. In fact, human sexuality has about as many real purposes as there are human beings engaging in that behavior.

If one's purpose is sexual pleasure instead of procreation and one creates a child unintentionally, obviously heterosexuality is a disorder with regard to one's intent.

"Order" is relative to context and personal intent. If the "order of the day" is to make war on all other human beings, to make peace would seem "disorder", yes?

"Normal" is a statistical thing, not a value judgment. A thing becomes the "norm" when it is the most statistically observed. Sure, in some cultures the "norm" is cannibalism in that the majority of that culture practice such behavior. "Normal" isn't a judgment but rather a mathematical fact.

As we all know, a thing CAN be the statistical norm and yet still be considered "unethical", "immoral" or, in the least, undesirable. Statistically speaking, the human species is continually at war either with itself or with the rest of nature. That is the "norm", but it's undesirable all the same, i.e., unethical or immoral.

Homosexuality, bisexuality, asexuality, transsexualism, etc. may all lie statistically outside the norm of human behaviors, but makes no statement as to whether these behaviors or states of being are "immoral", "unethical", undesirable, etc. Such judgments are context dependent, i.e., relative to the persons speaking.

It is a mistake to equate "statistical norm" with "acceptable". They are not equal and never have been except in the overly simplistic thinking of immature human beings.

Actually I could engage you in a discussion of what requirements are necessary to define the term "normal". However to be honest with you, given your snarky little remark about my post, I don't have the feeling that any scientific evidence would persuade you so I won't waste anymore time with you.

Well every major psychological and medical institution disagrees with you. But thats fine you keep talking to your little god and do as he tells you and maybe someday hell give you a big mansion in the sky, and you can sing alot and dance and stuff and its gonna be great, exept there will be no designers so it will look like shit but other than that great. Enjoy being alone.

why is homosexuality a disorder? Seriously heterosexual people beat their wives and have sex with their children and commit adultery because they are allowed to get married and heterosexuals drive the prostitution industry and the pornography industry and are the ones who are responsible for spreading a majority of STD's besides just AIDS and you know are generally prone to act like complete idiots. So why is homosexuality the big bad evil here?

Also doesn't Christine O'Donnell's statements that Satanists are fine and hanging out with witches is fine but somehow homosexuality is a disorder worth freaking out over piss you off or cause you to look up the word hypocrisy in the dictionary to see if her and the Tea Party candidates (and the Republicans) have a picture next to the definition.

that's the best response you could come up with?

"Stating a fact or truth does not make a person a bigot , hateful or intolerant."

Agreed, assuming you know the things you state ARE facts. In this case, it's not. Homosexuality has been observed in many species in addition to human beings. It's even been observed in fish. Since I'm certain it's not a "life choice" on their part the only other explanation is that it's genetic. If something is genetic it may be different but that doesn't make it abnormal.

With the exception of pedophilia, for cultures that practice them, various forms of incest and cannibalism would be normal to them, though not to us. We were raised in a Western culture that abhors these things and would therefore never partake in them. However, if you got stranded on a island with cannibals (and you didn't become lunch) YOU would be the abnormal one to them if you refused to chomp on someones innards.

You really need to define normal before you can establish that a behavior is outside its parameters. If you define normal as what the majority of people experience, then homosexuality is well within that definition. Consider all the 'experimentation' with same-sex relationships - there are far more out there than we admit to, and even while short-term, it counts toward the whole of this definition of normal.

Define normal, then we can go from there.

I apologize for my remark Tyr.
It was snarky and uncalled for.
Pissedoff.

You have a valid point.
The definition of normal can be defined from a world view, national,religious,culture,social, local, family and I'm sure we can all expand on this.
So there can only be agreement among the defined group as to what that group considers normal.

Obviously there will never be a conscious on this matter.

you still didn't answer the question

you are missing the point that homosexuals are two consenting adults, where pedophiles target unwilling children or children who are too young to actualy consent to a sexual act. same thing goes for canibals it's an unwilling victum, you kinda got me on the incest thing tho i will point out that those were all hetrosexual marriages so you are kind of damaging your own argument there.

it makes her feel good about her fling in collage?

"Satan" is a topic belonging to Christianity, NOT to witches or to pagans in general. Although I myself am "atheistic", socially I've been part of pagan rituals and groups for a number of years now and "Satan" or "satanism" is never mentioned and certainly has no part in any of the practice I've observed.

Christians are in love with believing otherwise. That speaks to them and NOT to witches or pagans.

"On the other hand, religious delusion is still delusion no matter the degree to which one is afflicted and one's intellectual, emotional and spiritual progress is stunted in direct proportion to one's handicap" --your comment--

yet, ironically you speak of pagan, witchcraft rituals that you participate in. these, simply by definition are religious practices and/or groups. christianity and islam are not the only "religions" in the world by definition. therefore, are you saying that, you are delusional??

i don't ask to be offensive: but it seems that your two statements are non-sequiter. and it seems to me that your isolating monotheistic beliefs as religion - and not polytheistic beliefs. even atheism in america has become it's own religion - with groups and the like that meet together to celebrate acknowledging "no God."

the fact remains that religion (any of it) in the hands of man is corrupt. it's unfortunate that monotheistic believers have extremists who give them a bad name.

but i would say that is not the heart of the faith or God.

I think common_sense is speaking more to the comments that Ms O'Donnell has made herself about the people she's dated - not placing her/his own judgments on those folks...

when you call Chris Coons 'a self proclaimed Marxist' do you even realize what that quote comes from? I'm willing to bet you don't so i'll tell you, it comes from an article written about him in the Amherst College news paper in the early 1980s where he talks about his switch from being a republican to a democrat. Get your facts straight and don't believe everything you hear on fox radio

Here this will lead you to the truth.http://mediamatters.org/blog/201009200052

Hard to believe that some one would believe what they see on Faux News. They are only good for cartoons nothing more.

have you fucked everyone on here?
for all you know mr prejudge every memeber on this thread is an asexual virgin.

i'm not gay, but if sparky bends over in front of me i'll make an aception.

Its so true it hurts.

we have a site for people like this http://www.fstdt.com

Ha ha, are you surprised? They'll make excuses for everybody with an r behind their name. Rove earned my respect when he bashed her, but then of course he took it back like the little girl that he is. no disrespect intended to all the little girls out there

My problem is it is true--her past shouldn't be important---its just that she doesn't provided any clue on how she might vote about current issues that will face the newly elected congress in January or said anything about what her current platform is so without an anchor in the here and now her past is all we are left with.

A wannabe pagan. Not exactly a feather in her cap or a career-ending accusation. Truth be told, if she said she was and is a devoted pagan, I'd have quite a bit more respect for her. Of course, her attitudes on other issues make her "paganism" little more than an unsubstantiated boast.

Gotta love that....you took that right from my imagination...you sly devil you.

Now it can be Christine's death moan.

an how.

Sop join an "Independant Catholic Church" they will take anyone!

but she didn't inhale

i giggled so hard i piddled

wet with anticipation? i am.
this bitch is gunna be funnier than palin

It'd be foolish to think this is something exclusive to the left. You'd have to be completely blind not to notice the absurd extent of Obama hate to the right and the blockage of virtually everything he's tried to do, even if he tried to enact ideas that conservative politicians themselves proposed. In this case, however, the left has proposed a far superior plan of action regarding people of different sexual orientations. It's called "tolerance".

Have you missed the point that the right keeps supporting wing nuts instead of producing any ideas at all?

Sal, the second we have a political strategy from them, the moment we know what their plan actually is, we'll attack the hell out of it I'm sure. Since they haven't given us one, what else is there to do with them?

the koran..tells its disciples to kill homosexuals..so please be more respectful LOL

No one asked about the Koran, dumbass.

OMG honey so true dont that hair just make you throw up in your mouth a little. Its a crime!

Why do people like you have internet access?

Hmmm.... If that is the definition, maybe I had a personality disorder in my teens.