CANNABIS DECRIMINALIZED in CALIFORNIA!!!

"economically, this will be a nightmare, think of all the bad things that will happen. people become aggressive, or irritated much quicker when they are on booze or weed, or any drug."
Hahaha, Are you high bro?

Um song title and artist please

Ben Harper - Burn One Down

thanx

BULLSHIT.

something you full of? or do you think we are playing the card game? show some fucking proof that it BS or thats all you got.

Being IN California. Knowing lotsa' growers, your version of this is,..... clouded? Never heard of THAT scenario....EVER. The scenario is usually the other way around. Maybe you know more unscrupulous people than I do? Not saying its never happened, there could be a few bad apples in that bunch. Usually, when someone burns somebody over something like that, well lets just say, "You reap what you sew".

I've never seen, or heard, of any growers dealing with the mexican mafia. Although, I know outdoor growers who leave beans and tortillas around their camps to throw off the feds. Ya ever notice when the feds bust a garden that they rarely ever bust a human being.

And... as far as good pay for good trimmers, the going pay is $25/hr or $225/lb. I don't think unionizing the trimmers would get them any better pay. If the farmers fuck over their trimmers then they will soon be trimming it themselves. The farmers I know treat their help very well.

Hey, I can switch careers and keep my moniker!

Im with you on this. If it goes legal like Prop 19 says, then anybody without "State" weed will be considered a "Bootlegger". Then they'll have to start a new "Agency" to deal with that, More taxes, more bureaucracy, MORE GOVERNMENT, MORE BULLSHIT!!! I kind of like it the way it is. Afterall, any time the Government gets involved with anything, they wreck it for everyone. It will cost 5 times more and only be 1/3 as good. Because "THEY" know what's best for you............... Sure they do.

you do realize that you're wrong, right, prop 19 lets anyone that has the inclination grow, for personal use.

Do you realize that with a prescription(weed deed) you can grow it legally too? Really, anything the government gets into, they wreck it. Haven't you learned that yet? You must have voted for Obama.

You do realize that keeping it illegal gives the government more power over the people do you not? Ever hear of the DEA and the raids going on? Do you want those to continue? Seems like you do.

FYI -- I do realize DEA is federal. My point is that any move toward legalization is a good thing. Eventually the feds will have to go along. Any move to keep it illegal gives more power to the government's agenda.

I absolutely DO NOT. The government is starting to call off the hounds on pot users. ANYTHING the government gets involved in, they ruin it. As an independent businessman I'm dealing with that reality everyday. The E.P.A. has destroyed your ability to get a good paint job. It has made it impossible to clean your dirty parts clean in a normal environment. The State has made it so expensive to have employees that all of California's manufacturing has left the state. Even in Hollywood, They've killed the goose that laid the golden egg. They've Taxed/Fee'd Hollywood out of town. Only ONE show is currently being produced there. So what do they suggest to do about it in Hollywood? "We need a Movie SZAR", they say. WTF?? That means a "More government", along with more penalties to fund it with, People, WAKE UP, this IS tyranny. The next time they say that the government is going to fold due to no money, we should let it fold. Then we, THE PEOPLE, can take it back and start it over again. We just have to be sure that we NEVER let the same idiots that got us into this mess participate. Career politicians are the cancer that destroys what we have worked so hard, for so long to build. They say we can't afford this and that, then they take stuff away from us, yet they vote themselves raises. What do they give back? Anything? Just wait until government health care kicks in. Every other country in the world that has it, hates it. Yet they've just rammed it down,or up our asses, People in Canada and European countries come to the U.S. for decent health care. Does our government tell you that? WHERE in the constitution, does it say that "WE HAVE TO BUY HEALTH CARE"??? If it weren't for the fact that my family lives here, sometimes I think about selling my possessions and leaving this country behind. I'm so sorry to say that. But.the politicians have ruined it, THAT badly.

I know two Canadians who prefer their old healthcare in Canada to what they currently have in the US.

There needs to be a referee especially for monopolies, and networks are natural monopolies.

I agree less government is better, but in some cases it is a necessary evil.

The beauty of prop 19 is that it decentralizes the regulation; so those localities that are opposed to sales can ban them, and those that want to take in tax revenue can regulate them.

cities = more government, rural = more freedom

My mother in laws boyfriend is a Canadian. He moved down here FOR the health care system. He said it was too slow to even being seen up there. Let alone getting treatment. Said just about any ailment takes about two years to get any results. He said alot of people just die in the waiting .Same situation in the U.K. Been there. Seen it. Like I said, everyone, in other countries that have it, hate it. I'm sure that the poor, entitled people think it's cool. Because they're on the dole anyways. That segment of the population is growing at an alarming rate here, NOW. There just isn't anyway that the shrinking middle class can support that burden anymore. I don't know what Obama's thinking is on this. I guess when you work for the government, you have no worries. But as for the rest of us?????

Thank you Juicie for your thoughtful insight. It's nice getting rational replies.

Your question doesn't have anything to do with the decriminalization of marijuana, though, ayipis. Studies have shown it's less dangerous in almost all respects in comparison to alcohol or nicotine, so basic logic holds that it should be decriminalized, and hopefully one day, legalized.

Dependency on anything can make anyone weak. And how dare you lump all marijuana users together and say "well how many of you are actually IN pain"? Sure, some people probably shouldn't use it as much as they are. Some people may really need it, however, and due to it's status are not receiving it. However, it's going to be this way with almost any beneficial thing the human race has ever came up with. It's just human nature.

Dependency on stupidity makes you stupid...btw you had a different handle some time ago didn't you? Your previous persona had the same misguided attitude towards pot. Same spelling mistakes and disregard for grammar too.;P

How come YOU don't? Maybe you should try it. Might alter(I've read your posts) your perspective/correct your vision? I'm a purely recreational user. Keeps me out of the bars. Of course I'm always in bars anyways playing music. Pass the joint please.........

no, you're right, a lot of us smoke it because we like to. i'm blitzed right now. why? because it beats the living shit out of getting drunk.

Looks like you got your answers. Now please stop asking the same question over and over and over again.

Why do you need to troll? I think you are addicted to it. Weakness makes a person troll.

Bung-TROLL-io!

MINUS 12 and counting............Is the word DENTIST in your ever expanding vocabulary?

Making fun of the person in his avatar is only encouraging him. His avatar is racist. He always picks a picture that he thinks makes black people look bad. I'm sure he's actually an old white dude. But you could be right about his teeth. Maybe he's a hillbilly.

don't forget the vapers ;p;

not if they vote by absentee.

Oppressor!!! Go pickle your liver and fucking die!

comment of the day!

i think you're in for a big surprise.

...smoked my stuff and drank all my wine.

Ah, but it still is a big deal! It's kinda like a backup plan.

Yes, so long as Fat Freddy's cat doesn't pee in your stash!

Yes, you're right about all of this. But.. it's still a step in the right direction. Right?

Well you better listen my sister's and brothers,
'cause if you do you can hear
there are voices still calling across the years.
And they're all crying across the ocean,
and they're cryin across the land,
and they will till we all come to understand.

None of us are free.
None of us are free.
None of us are free, one of us are chained.
None of us are free.

And there are people still in darkness,
and they just can't see the light.
If you don't say it's wrong then that says it right.
We got try to feel for each other, let our brother's know that
we care.
Got to get the message, send it out loud and clear.

(Chorus)

It's a simple truth we all need, just to hear and to see.
None of us are free, one of us is chained.
None of us are free.
now I swear your salvation isn't too hard too find,
None of us can find it on our own.
We've got to join together in sprirt, heart and mind.
So that every soul who's suffering will know they're not alone.

(Chorus)

If you just look around you,
your gonna see what I say.
Cause the world is getting smaller each passing day.
Now it's time to start making changes,
and it's time for us all to realize,
that the truth is shining real bright right before our eyes.

(Chorus and Fade)

Exactly my point Mike.

In time brother - in time. As long as we keep seeing this steps in the right direction, I'm happy.

perhaps its great timing, on behalf of prop 19 to go through without any troubles, can we think about that as a SOLUTION, now?

think about it. if C. Whiteman runs against prop 19 (and illegal maids) and it passes, how will the republicans look?

very shrewd decision by the "governator". (i'm sure his wife didn't mind either)

they most likely wanted to avoid giving President Obama more cred.

we better hope prop 19 passes still.

r u a nay sayer? want a hit?

Non-sequitur, WTF...verging on SPAM

The only way the feds will come around is after the rest of the states lead the way

Prop 19 protects workers from discrimination, because employers have to show that it actually negatively impacts their performance. Right now, you cheif on the weekend or after work and then come up dirty even though you are in no way affected on the job...but they can still fire you, that is discrimination.

Why don't we try decriminalizing Freedom altogether?

Freedom would have to be made illegal before it could be decriminalized.

That is working so well with Illegal Immigration right?

WTF?

your not a dead parrot are you?