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New York Gubernatorial Candidate, Carl Paladino (R), Slams Gays With Hatred | "Homosexuality Not Valid" | Video

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New York gubernatorial candidate slams gays

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New York gubernatorial candidate criticizes gays
From Cheryl Robinson, CNN
October 10, 2010 11:44 p.m. EDT


Paladino: Homosexuality not valid

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* Republican Carl Paladino says homosexuality isn't "equally valid" with heterosexuality
* "There is nothing to be proud of in being a dysfunctional homosexual," his prepared remarks say
* A spokesman for Paladino's opponent says comments reveal "stunning homophobia"
* Remarks come as New York police respond to anti-gay hate crimes against 4 men

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New York (CNN) -- New York Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino criticized gays Sunday, saying he didn't want children "to be brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid or successful option," compared to heterosexuality.

"It isn't," Paladino said at a stop in Brooklyn, New York.

A prepared version of his remarks obtained by CNN from New York affiliate NY1 said that "There is nothing to be proud of in being a dysfunctional homosexual," though Paladino did not wind up delivering that line.

"That's not how (God) created us," the prepared remarks continued, though Paladino did not say those words.

Paladino distributed copies of his prepared remarks to reporters at the event, an address to a group of Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn's Williamsburg neighborhood.

The candidate's remarks came a day after New York police announced the arrest of an eighth suspect in a series of brutal, anti-gay hate crimes against four men.


The incident last weekend involved three victims being held against their will by as many as nine assailants who beat them in a vacant apartment and sodomized two of them, police said. A fourth victim was beaten and robbed in connection with the attacks.

"Don't misquote me as wanting to hurt homosexual people in any way," Paladino said Sunday. "That would be a dastardly lie -- my approach is live and let live."

"I just think my children and your children would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family," he said.

Paladino also slammed his Democratic opponent, New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, for marching in New York's gay pride parade in June.

"That's not the example that we should be showing the children and certainly not in our schools," he said.

Cuomo spokesman Josh Vlasto responded to Paladino's comments Sunday.

"Mr. Paladino's statement displays a stunning homophobia and a glaring disregard for basic equality," Vlasto said in a statement. "These comments along with other views he has espoused make it clear that he is way out of the mainstream and is unfit to represent New York."

Paladino's remarks also drew fire from gay rights groups.

"Carl Paladino's comments would matter if they were coming from a serious political figure, however they are not," said Christopher Barron, chairman of the gay conservative group GOProud, in an email to CNN. "They are instead coming from the imploding campaign of a man with the personal baggage of John Edwards and all the electability of Alan Keyes."

But Paladino's campaign manager, Michael Caputo, stood by the gubernatorial candidate's comments on homosexuality.

"Carl Paladino's position on this is exactly equivalent to the Catholic Church," Caputo told CNN. "And if Andrew Cuomo has a problem with the Catholic Church's position on abortion and homosexuality, he needs to take it up with his parish priest."



CNN's Mark Preston contributed to this report.
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76 comments // New York Gubernatorial Candidate, Carl Paladino (R), Slams Gays With Hatred | "Homosexuality Not Valid" | Video

  • dreamsenvoy
  • matt4321
    • -3
      matt4321  

    • I would speak out against things like the holocaust, slavery, pornography, murder/abortion, and sodomy. Such things are turning the world into a cess-pool. Why not clean it out once in awhile? You can say anything you want about these things, but you cannot dress up a pig and call it something else.

    • 1 year ago
  • matt4321
  • matt4321
    • -7
      matt4321  

    • Political correctness is why abortion and glorified sodomy are accepted in the US. You had better believe these are scandalous and no amount of dancing around the subject can make them any less terrible than what they are.

    • 1 year ago
  • littlelumpo
  • panichead
    • +1
      panichead  

    • This freak is so into the sanctity of marrige he went out and stated one on the side and he was so proud of his little bastard daughter that at last years birthday party for her, he took photos of her fellating Seabiscuit!

    • 1 year ago
  • matt4321
    • -7
      matt4321  

    • Clearly, engaging in sodomy does not make someone a minority. Thus I do not buy into Paladino or anyone else being coined a racist or a bigot for speaking out against the vile act. To single a person out would be very wrong, but to speak out against the unspeakable act is long overdue.

    • 1 year ago
  • noxidereus
    • +1
      noxidereus  
    • matt4321:

      Really? Cuz hateful people like you haven't been speaking out against it for like ever? What is long overdue is letting go of our primitive fears and not worrying about how other people express their love. Let go of the hate man. What does other peoples' 'sodomy' have to do with you? Nothing. Let it go.

    • 1 year ago
  • dreamsenvoy
    • 0
      dreamsenvoy  
    • matt4321:

      what Dogmatist call the "unspeakable or vile act" has been spoken about for several millenia.How is that "long overdue" your a few milleniums overdue on that one

      JSUK(just so you know),there are over 230 admonishment against what the modern world would call heterosexuality and only 6(including new testement)admonishment against what the modern world would call homosexuality.Sounds like that heteros need more supervision than queer people

    • 1 year ago
  • EmperorThan
    • +3
      EmperorThan  

    • Welp then he's a shoe in for this election. The rules for any election go: if you're a Democrat you're held to higher standards of conduct than any human being exhibits if you're a Republican you're expected to say all sorts of fucked up bigoted shit.

      In fact if he doesn't win it will be because he wasn't photoed in a Nazi costume while wearing a KKK hood when appearing in front of the NAACP or something. That really would have 'helped' him, again, because he's a Republican.

      And you might say but "Emperor, why would a crazy Republican be elected in a liberal state like New York?" I don't know! I just know the rules of elections and they're universal.

    • 1 year ago
  • fun_size
    • 0
      fun_size  

    • Great so i can choose between a bigoted asshole like Paladino or dumbass like Andrew Cuomo for Governor of my state? Lucky me...

    • 1 year ago
  • Proud_Progressive
  • matt4321
    • -4
      matt4321  

    • Ok then, judging by the scaulding replies I have gotten, calling Sodomy and abortion acts of abomination makes me a bigot. I said nothing against any person but I am a bigot. I suppose they feel that speaking out against an act of pediphilia would also make me a bigot.

    • 1 year ago
  • hombre76
    • 0
      hombre76  
    • matt4321:

      yes technicaly you are a bigot against pedophilia if you hate those who engage in pedophilia. the differance between the bigotry you have for gays and people involved with abortion and the bigotry many of us have against pedophilia is we sanction that bigotry against pedophilia in this society and the majority of us don't sanction your bigotry against gays and people involved in abortions. Once Again its one of those things you're just gona have to DEAL WITH.

    • 1 year ago
  • AreOh
    • +3
      AreOh  
    • matt4321:

      Well Matt, I think people have a problem with your commentary because it is reminiscent of prejudiced rhetoric. While you may not speak against anyone indirectly, the bias you have towards them is particular and obvious based upon the negative context you apply to both acts, which are neither inherently good or bad, except when viewed from a certain perspective.

      Furthermore, comparing these acts to Pedophillia is erroneous because we can all agree that in whatever context it is wrong. The same cannot be said for sodomy or abortion.

      You know how the cliche' goes. If it walks like a duck and sounds like duck, etc.

    • 1 year ago
  • noxidereus
    • +3
      noxidereus  
    • matt4321:

      Pedophilia involves a predator and an innocent victim. Homosexuality involves consent. They are totally different things. You are attacking an entire group of people. That makes you a bigot.

    • 1 year ago
  • Varex_Sythe
    • 0
      Varex_Sythe  

    • "Paladino also slammed his Democratic opponent, New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, for marching in New York's gay pride parade in June.

      "That's not the example that we should be showing the children and certainly not in our schools," he said."

      ... Am I the only one who thinks that the majority of our kids in K-12 really aren't going to give a rats gilded ass about what political figures march in what parade? Honestly, I think that they're going to be more interested in when the next season of South Park comes out.

      ""I just think my children and your children would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family," he said."

      What about what our children want for themselves? At some point they are going to have to make their own decisions, and I would rather have them make those decisions being comfortable with who they are be they heterosexual or homosexual.

    • 1 year ago
  • littlwarrior
    • +7
      littlwarrior  

    • "That's not the example that we should be showing the children and certainly not in our schools,"
      Because instead we should teach our children to hate, we should teach them that people who are different are less that the rest of us and therfore should be treated as such. We should teach our children not of love and compainionship but if malice and segregation. Your children are not "more succesful" good sir you have over a 50% divorece rate so you can take that and shove it! Bigoted ass.

    • 1 year ago
  • PzLuvHappeniz
  • EthicalVegan
  • WeBelieve
  • H2O_4U
  • matt4321
  • matt4321
  • littlwarrior
  • UtopianSky
  • AreOh
    • +7
      AreOh  

    • The mainstream bigotry that has been displayed in NY these past few months is disappointing for a city that prides itself on it's diversity. It is an embarrassment that he is even a viable candidate in such a place. I do hope sensible New Yorkers see him for what he is and do not allow him any place in government.

    • 1 year ago
  • jjtcorsair
  • moodyblue
  • Tyr
    • +5
      Tyr  

    • I would have to agree with the campaign manager about one thing, the position the Catholic church takes on Homosexuality needs to be confronted, and exposed for what it is, a green light to abuse gay men and women. Isn't it interesting when expressing carefully worded disdain for gay people they virtually always fall back on religious views to offer validity to their words. Disgusting, for one powerful reason, when one group of people feel that they have the power to deny rights to another... then we are all in trouble.

    • 1 year ago
  • ozoneocean
    • +4
      ozoneocean  
    • Tyr:

      The religious thing is just beyond belief! Ironically.
      So you can just come out with ANY crazy shit and say: "if you don't like it then take it up with that guy over there because he thinks that as well"

      It's totally irrelevant what someone else thinks if YOU are the moron going around saying it!
      -so I agree with you in that respect.

      But we all know the catholic church is full of crazy old ideas, who cares? Where is their credibility anyway? They're not the idiots running for office.

    • 1 year ago
  • Sparky2U
  • jjtcorsair
  • timetide
  • MistressOfJade
  • littlwarrior
  • dreamsenvoy
  • ozoneocean
    • +6
      ozoneocean  

    • He's obviously pretty disturbed. What kind of moron thinks that way in this day and age?

      With people like that there's something that just doesn't work right in their brains. Like those gang members who tried to prove how much that hate homosexuals by RAPING them. It's insane.
      This guy is insane.

    • 1 year ago
  • macready
    • +3
      macready  

    • Let's all protect marriage in the only way that we truly can--make divorce illegal. Let's give the absolutists who profess to be in defense of this sacred institution an opportunity to put their money where their rhetoric is.

    • 1 year ago
  • ed2point0
    • -3
      ed2point0  

    • While I condemn what Paladino said about gays, he has the right to express his thoughts no matter how hateful they may sound. I personally don't care about Paladino's views of homosexuality as long as he doesn't use government to impose his views on others. We need to stop these kneejerk reactions to statements such as the one Paladino made and realize that they have the right to say them, they just don't have the right to use the government to enforce their morality on others, plain and simple.

    • 1 year ago
  • tylervictoria1
    • +4
      tylervictoria1  
    • ed2point0:

      And you're absolutely right he does have the right to say whatever he wants, it's just bad timing you know. With five gay suicides and that gang who molested those guys just because they thought they were gay, it's just the worst possible time to be spewing this kind of rhetoric. And as faras politics go it's just plain stupid. Do you know how many gays live in New York?

    • 1 year ago
  • ed2point0
    • -1
      ed2point0  
    • tylervictoria1:

      Agreed, it was bad timing, but again he has the right to express himself regardless of what others think. Again, I go to my original point that Paladino has the right to express himself, but he cannot impose his morality through legislation.

    • 1 year ago
  • jjtcorsair
  • ed2point0
    • 0
      ed2point0  
    • jjtcorsair:

      Of course, no doubt that they have done that, but Democrats have faciliated that by supporting Don't Ask, Don't Tell and Defense of Marriage Act and other legislation. Both parties one way or the other want to tell others how they should live.

    • 1 year ago
  • timetide
  • ed2point0
    • 0
      ed2point0  
    • timetide:

      Correct, we have the freedom to respond to his statements if we choose to or not. One way to respond is to not vote for Paladino not just on his statements but on his platform. If I lived in New York, I would not vote for Paladino mostly for his platform, not so much for his comments.

    • 1 year ago
  • littlwarrior
  • moodyblue
    • +3
      moodyblue  
    • ed2point0:

      You're right, he has the right to express himself. The rest of us also have the right to express ourselves and call him out on his ignorance. The problem with people like Mr. Paladino is they aren't content with just having these opinions. They want to use their position to deny the rights of those they feel are beneath them. That is why he is dangerous. That is why he has no place in government.

    • 1 year ago
  • UtopianSky
    • +2
      UtopianSky  
    • ed2point0:

      When someone has views that one group of American Citizens are inferior to another group of American Citizens, that means they are not qualified to hold a government office where they are supposed to represent ALL American Citizens.

      Yes, he has a right to say whatever he wants to say- but we also have the right to hold our politicians to a higher standard.

      If you think his views would not color his actions, you are naive.

    • 1 year ago
  • UtopianSky
  • UtopianSky
  • UtopianSky
    • +4
      UtopianSky  
    • ed2point0:

      This is not a Democrat/Republican thing.

      This is a "this guy is a moron" thing.
      Granted, that comes up more often for Republicans than Democrats;
      But it comes up for Libertarians too.
      Ron Paul's anti-gay rhetoric is well known.

    • 1 year ago
  • Proud_Progressive
  • noxidereus
    • 0
      noxidereus  
    • ed2point0:

      If you listened to what he was saying, you'd know that he has every intention of using the government to impose his view on others. For example, he stated that he would veto any gay marriage or civil union bills because of his antiquated views on homosexuality.

    • 1 year ago
  • PigFarmington
  • shanklinmike
    • -1
      shanklinmike  

    • Libertarians want to leave gays alone, get the government out of marriage altogether. This would also allow gays to adopt which most democrats won't even stand up for for the LGBT community today, at least not the democrats in North Carolina. Only the libertarian party will fight for gay rights and the right to marry whoever you CHOOSE,

      ...as if the government bureaucrats have a right to tell you who to marry....what a joke...

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09LCETmYa-g

    • 1 year ago
  • ozoneocean
  • hombre76
  • shanklinmike
  • shanklinmike
  • UtopianSky
  • hombre76
  • Proud_Progressive
  • Paratus
    • -8
      Paratus  

    • What's the matter with the Dem/lib side of things in this election cycle? Most of what I read, a lot of it here, that is negative about Republicans/libertarian, is centered around either allegations of racism or anti gay. Not very much about platforms but about personal views. I think that is pretty pitiful but it is what I have come to expect over the years.
      I did not see any "hatred" of gays in the post in the beginning of this thread. Hatred is a personal emotion. I think Obama is a danger to this country but I don't hate him. For the left to assign "hatred" to anyone who is not on board or has a different opinion other than them is a good tactic but dishonest. Again, it is what I have come to expect over the years.

    • 1 year ago
  • hombre76
    • +7
      hombre76  
    • Paratus:

      "Most of what I read, a lot of it here, that is negative about Republicans/libertarian, is centered around either allegations of racism or anti gay. Not very much about platforms but about personal views."

      Thats because thats what you republicans/libertarians run on Personal Veiws/Values/Morals....the problem is that a majority in this nation you do not have so you loose and then you whine cause no one agrees with you. boohoo so sad....

    • 1 year ago
  • shanklinmike
    • -4
      shanklinmike  
    • Paratus:

      "Republican/libertarians"

      Please don't combine them, that's like combing the founding fathers with Hitler.

      Libertarians fight for minorities that are trapped in the statist injustice system, fight for equality under the law, want to leave gays alone in peace.

      Most of the attacks on gay groups and racist groups never coincide with libertarians, most of the attacks are rightfully placed on Republicans, at least in my lengthy experience on the site.

      Libertarians usually try to stick to the root of the problem, statism threats of coercion.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IRbwpc2XV4

    • 1 year ago
  • Dmerza1989
    • +1
      Dmerza1989  
    • shanklinmike:

      Couldn't have said it better myself! Most people i know now are libertarians including myself who is also gay. Yes some might not "appreciate" homosexuality but they know enough to say its my opinion and that should NOT dictate the law for everyone else.

    • 1 year ago
  • Dmerza1989
  • panichead
    • +3
      panichead  

    • I just saw him on FOX & Friends and he said he "didn't write that statement, it was submitted by the dirty Jew behind him"

    • 1 year ago
  • JanforGore
    • +4
      JanforGore  

    • This loon cannot win in New York. New Yorkers simply cannot be this stupid. I have seen the commercials here and I can tell you that if I lived in NY I would RUN not walk on election day and vote for Cuomo. This guy is BAD NEWS.

    • 1 year ago
  • Proud_Progressive
  • nanac
    • +7
      nanac  

    • The Tea Party Republicans are so desperate to regain power, until they will support any kook...He is anti-homosexual, and pro-bestiality..

    • 1 year ago
  • bike10
  • TimALoftis
  • FtheBULLSHT
    • +8
      FtheBULLSHT  

    • ""I just think my children and your children would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family,"

      So why don't you support the legalization of gay marriage and gay adoption?

    • 1 year ago
  • EthicalVegan
    • +9
      EthicalVegan  

    • "Paladino also slammed his Democratic opponent, New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, for marching in New York's gay pride parade in June.

      "'That's not the example that we should be showing the children and certainly not in our schools,' he said."

      Yeah, right... hitting head against wall........

    • 1 year ago
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