Gay Lifestyle Unnatural Say Paladino. Many Agree, So Whats the Problem?

you must be a hater and a bigot, calling him a gay term like 'tea bagger', insinuating he sucks penis. are you a hater?

thats right, the great and mighty saladin decides for all! i dont think we're in kansas anymore.

i know and to the detriment to this country minority often wins out

jesse jackson, al sharpton, louis farrakhan, oh yeah and barak obama

you've countered one baseless opinion with another.

it is yet to be determined if homosexual marriage is a constitutional right.

stay tuned

so your saying that because you beleive obama to be a bad president we should go back to the old ways of opressing African Americans.

if marraige is a constitutional right or not has nothing to do with homosexuality.the right is garunteed or isnt regardless of parties desiring marraige.man and woman, black and white,jew and christian, or adam and steve.doesnt change the constitutionality of the marraige concept or institution.

he is also in favor of going back to a time when jews were denied land ownership, and were viewed as dogs.

that much is apparant.

lol that dogs are jews? jk
if we were though i think we would be the hooch kind.what are those saint bernards.all droopy and drippy like.
oooo thier is an idea for a race or religion hating bating post.what animal best represents- fill in the blank-.
damn you marijuana

wow i see that as going south real fast. Although i see jews as pittbulls, kind sweet loving, until you make yourself a threat then mean as hell and deadly.

lol pitbull nebbish woody allen.

Oh my that is quite the image

thanks, but i hope you have several million ponies for the rest of us

wow, you sure read a lot out of simple statements

oooh oooh pick me pick me ohhhhh ohhhh

me first, me first!

he never said anything like that, it's a totally bogus and brainless point you're trying to make

trust me he is not the brainless one. It just zoomed right on over didnt it?

Word... it happens in nature. Yet the same assholes that support this asshole will claim animals have no feelings or self-awareness.

of why each generation,after generation,after generation have these kids who want to be abused by the mass's so much.
is it like, i want to get my ass kicked, what can i do to most effectively insure this? i know ill only fuck cock.ill stop having all that vaginal sex i like so much, and choose shlong.cant wait to have a shitty life now.thats my choice, the worst existance possible in my society.

ouch man ouch, its not the worst existance possible, although I agree if this was a choice i wouldnt have chose it

since ive never fucked a four legged animal i couldnt say. but anomolies also develope in the animal kingdom. just because they exist doesnt mean its natural. all things are debatable my friend

here we go again.

PROVE that there are "so many gay animals". I've never seen this documented, you don't see packs of wolves sodomizing each other.

prove it.

besides, let's say it sometimes does happen in nature. other things that occur in nature include: incest, cannibalism, killing the offspring of competing males...it goes on and on.

so we again return to the humanists reducing humans to animals

i was speaking in general terms.while being gay in the village isnt bad at all, being gay in iran is a bit tricky to pull off and ya know live.

as a heeb i understand.if offered a choice as a child to be like everyone else or spin driedels, id be one saint nick loving mother fucker.but those arent the cards i was dealt.

is it an anomolie when it occurs time after time, generation after generation? or are you not understanding anomolies? or just ignoring basic truths?

but if you put on techno and give them leather pants watch what happens.

um using animals as a basis for comparison is kind of what we as human beings do.i mean since we stopped thinking cats were gods and all.
chinese people were starving, and they cannibalised.shit that argentinian (i think) soccer team that was stranded ate each other.does it make them animals, or desperate human beings?

ya I see you point, Iran could get complicated. But just so you know when I was a kid I wanted a Manora and my mom would never buy me one I didnt know till later it was because of a religious thing I couldnt have one I just thought they were pretty. Now I have a manora no idea what to do with it but I have it and it is pretty.

ya know, i have met a whole lot of people who went through a jew faze, even some who like went all jewish at like 9 or 10.i dont know who is seling the idea of religion=fun, especialy judaism=fun but they must be doing some job.i guess it is the grass is always greener deal for me.
i didnt ever really want christian stuff (except pork mmmm) i just didnt want the jewish stuff.fucking matzoh while al my goy friends got ham.what a religious rip off for me.

you are doing the bst thing you can with a manorah.they are better looking then they are functional.although i do have a wacky christian nieghbor who blows a shofar from time to time for fun.such a bizare world.

a·nom·a·ly
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a deviation from the common rule, type, arrangement, or form.

are you serious? come on, man, let's cut this shit out. Being a white Jew in America shouldn't be something you'd "wish away". There's nothing shameful or bad about being Jewish, in fact there is more to be extremely proud of, it seems (forgive me) to be a character flaw to let the bad juju of a minority that is hateful influence how you see yourself and "your people". Hell, the Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years, and from that persecution has arisen a strong and proud community.

And the Micks underwent their own persecution, in case you forget.

Remember the great movie "The Commitments"?

Jimmy Rabbite: Do you not get it, lads? The Irish are the blacks of Europe. And Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland. And the Northside Dubliners are the blacks of Dublin. So say it once, say it loud: I'm black and I'm proud.

people are born without limbs, generation after generation.
people are born mentally retarded, generation after generation.

but we also consider those things abnormalities. fortunately, we have also learned to be compassionate with those people (most of us), and we should be compassionate about homosexuals, too. But I think what the candidate was saying is, just because it happens with some small frequency does not make it "normal". More importantly, he doesn't think there should be an organized effort to teach children that it's a "normal" or "wonderful" lifestyle choice.

don't forget the X and glow sticks...sounds like you're saying that anyone could turn gay in a rave

you didn't express your point very well, but you lead me to an interesting point. Some men who have never had gay experiences, who ahve been straight all their lives, have been known to have gay sex when nothing else is available.

everyone here knows that, and it's the achiles heel in the argument that "people are born gay, they don't choose it"

some kids are gay from the start. I don't doubt that.

but others turn to that lifestyle for various social reasons. and THAT is what the guy (the candidate in the article, can't remember his stupid name) was talking about.

so by defenition, as homosexuality is an anomoly in your opinon, global homosexuality doesnt exist right.cuz its just an anomoly, not a matter of nature.san francisco,greenwich village,europe, all anomolies? that is alot of anomolies thus negating the notion.

now chicks born with dicks, thats an anomoly.homosexualities frequent occurance, and re-occurance make it not an anomoly.not by me, but your defenition.

you are right.being a white jew in america shouldnt be something a child is made to want to wish away, but that is how many of us are treated.truth be told i didnt even have it all that bad comparatively, but the effects of antisemitism are the same.demonizing some one for being black,jewish,gay,irish or what ever results in shame if a solid sense of pride doesnt exist first.and as children go, you dont think of yourself by your race or religion in order to gain that defensive pride, but just trying to figure out the world and your place in it.not as a race or religion, but as an individual.

shit it was so effective on me, that i quietly tolerated antisemitism as if it is just the way things are as an adult.it wasnt until a few years ago i was even able to find the basis for pride.granted my folks share alot of that blame, but our culture more so.

every group has gone through the american (hazing) experience.but polish jokes stop when you are in elementary school.no one has issues with hungarians,or italians,or irish and so on.but other groups like blacks,jews,gays, and now arabs, get to be demonized regularly (participation may vary, void in california).

as a jewish adult, i can take what ever is thrown.you have seen my tenacity on israel posts.but that pride in heritage took almost 30 years to build up, in a society that is so ever ready to demonize it.shit that is why i do it.in the hopes the next, or the generation after that can know what i was denied as a kid.pride in myself and tradition.

but different is understood as wrong.
we all teach kids "wich one of these things is different""wich one doesnt belong with the rest"
"different" may not in actuality mean wrong, but that is how we teach, and often use it.
if we want to achieve tolerance we have to teach that we are all different from one another equaly.not that one group is different from the percived norm.

i mean i am against prayer in school.not because i give a shit about wether or not people pray, or even where or when.it is a matter of what happens to the kids who dont.the kids who are then seen as different.

the problem in this situation however is the notion of choice.
im not going to go into a high ramble but just ask yourself with all the shit that comes along with being gay in our society, who would choose that.who would choose a lifestyle that earns them random abuse?
do you choose to be heterosexual?could you honestly choose to be gay?i know i couldnt, there fore i cant see them having a choice.

homosexuality is ok because it isnt a choice.it isnt a matter of judgement on theyre part, and shouldnt be on ours.anytime you come out against tolerance it is just bad, especialy when against tolerating something that has no threat.it makes one seem bigoted.

lol i think raves are gay.not my generation i never got it.

you are talking about homosexuality by force.homosexuality only in the absence of heterosexuality, cuz the options are homo sex or no sex.personaly i have had some wicked dry spells, but never long enough to make me settle for man ass.

you dont acknowledge sexual drive in this.some one with a high sex drive may go ass pirate when vagina isnt available, but actualy more dont.rosey palm and her five sisters work for me.it isnt an achilles heel, especialy as gay men can get pussy way more than we can.aside from some genetic bullshit making them good looking, chicks love such a challenge.

if homosexuality were relegated to enviroments that heterosexual encounters were unavailable (military,private school,jail,ect) then the deprivation arguement would have legs.but they have all the access in the world to vagina, many more so than you and i combined and still get hard for dicks not chicks.

so by his standards we shouldnt tolerate those who arent gay but think they are, even to the detriment of actual gays?its like saying we shouldnt tolerate christian lifestyles by those who chose it as a matter of convinience, as opposed to those who actualy are.
what test exists to differenciate one from the other in either regard.how do you prove you are actualy gay, and not confused or actualy christian as opposed to being christian in name only?

well...let's see.

"if we want to achieve tolerance we have to teach that we are all different from one another equaly.not that one group is different from the percived norm." This is a false notion. Some groups ARE different "from the norm". How about that family in Florida that practices some bizarre religion where body piercing and other forms of physical "alterations" (to avoid usage of more judgmental terms) is now suing because the school dress policy forbids piercings, so now they are saying they've been victimized because it's "part of their religion." That's just bullshit. Cannibalism, human sacrifice, polygamy, clitorectomies, all sorts of shit is "part of religion", if we allow this kind of thing to go on, there is no end to what "must be tolerated" just because someone finds it "important" in their "spiritual view". Groups like this ARE out of the norm, should we abandon every value we have as a society about what we expect in specific environs, such as a school, to accomodate ANY freaky obsession an individual has? I say no. If they want to wear their piercings at the mall, great. If they want to get a clitorectomy as an adult, that's their business. But we don't have to tolerate someone showing up with an unlimited amount of body alterations in a classroom and then totally disturb the class, nor should we just allow some parent to cut off his daughter's clitoris just because "it's my religious belief". So there is a limit to what we have to "tolerate".

I'm NOT making the case that we shouldn't "tolerate" homosexuals, far from it. But the state shouldn't be creating programs in the classroom to discuss how "normal" homosexuality is, or to encourage kids to experiment with it, which I've read articles indicating that, as hard as that is to believe, has been done in some schools. I think that is what whats-his-name was talking about.

"i mean i am against prayer in school.not because i give a shit about wether or not people pray, or even where or when.it is a matter of what happens to the kids who dont.the kids who are then seen as different." I understand. I was an atheist as a kid, and I was tormented when our teacher asked me to lead the Lord's prayer and the kids laughed when I told them I didn't believe in God. I got angry but I also got stronger. I NEVER thought that the MAJORITY should not be allowed to pray in class, just that I shouldn't be forced to participate. Big difference.

"the problem in this situation however is the notion of choice. ...just ask yourself with all the shit that comes along with being gay in our society, who would choose that.who would choose a lifestyle that earns them random abuse? do you choose to be heterosexual?could you honestly choose to be gay?i know i couldnt, there fore i cant see them having a choice."

Ask yourself: why would anyone CHOOSE try meth? People can be influenced to try something "it feels good", "it won't hurt you", especially when sexual desires are driven by hormones and as youths, finding willing partners is very difficult. Boys naturally share a much higher sexual drive (I believe) than girls, and many find it very difficult to find girls to lay as early teens. I have no doubt that if you remove all stigma from homosexual experimentation, even make it fashionable, as some do, and introduce the idea into young kids minds, there is no doubt going to be kids who experiment with it and decide to stick with it, who might not have been "born gay".

we should be compassionate with the peope who truly are born gay, but we should NOT be promoting the lifestyle in a way that encourages kids to experimentwith it.

How can that comment seem "radical" or "hateful"?!

you are showing the corrosive nature of intolerance, in you position.who cares wether or not others view your religion as viable.it is yours and serves your needs.no litmus test exists to state what religion is true or bullshit.fuck the abrahamic tradition is rife with bullshit from begining to end.why is that superior to the piercing nuts.what harm do the piercing nuts pose anyone but themselves.what harm comes from tolerating them?

you are pulling out acts that break the law as if i support them in the name of tolerance.of course if your religious practices break the law, that act (not the religion itself) shouldnt be tolerated.if it is a true religious thing, they will continue to do it, we will continue to arrest them for thier crimes, and problem solved.

i say yes.the more perspectives propagated in our schools the better.the more communists in our schools offset the rediculous religious oppression already instituted.how do we deduce what is beneficial or detrimental with out trying it out? if we didnt we would be like the those under sharia.we would be sentencing our youth to a singular perspective insuring progress never comes.

we should tolerate the piercings, as they do no harm.if the kid is a disruption then deal with that on its own merits.if a parent gives thier kid a clitorectomy, it is straight up abuse regardless of religion.our laws already represent our values, so no need to worry about the effect of tolerating new ideas that exist within our legal framework.

i just dont believe any school is telling kids to experiment with homosexuality.i am fairly sure though that as the neocons have no real argument against homosexuality in practice (outside of the failed religious basis) and have resorted to how it effects kids, many bullshit articles claiming this to be true are out there.no progressive school would tell kids to experiment with any sexuality, but acknowledge the fact that they will, and what ever thier desires may be to not be ashamed.

without the prayer in class element, you would have been able to not suffer that scorn.the prayer in school element exposed what made you different.but what if when that happened the teacher and the school backed you up and didnt say you were different, but that all of us are different from one another and that is to be respected?

kids experiment sexualy speaking, regardless of what we deem tolerable or not.im sorry but i never once imagined that having cock in my ass felt good, and was never interested in experimenting that way.others may think it might feel good, and learn the hard way (pun intended) it isnt.others still may find out that way that they are gay.just like how i found out i wasnt.saying try it cuz it feels good isnt what is going on at all, in any school.the religious right love the "just do what ever feels good" argument to dismiss all non puritan ideals.no matter how they spin that to ya, it doesnt make it so.

no one is talking about promoting a lifestyle, just not making it bad either.its just like when segregation was on the table.segregationist said the next thing you know they are gunna tell ya being white is wrong, and the blacks and jews are gunna take over.
the blacks and jews arent going to take over, and our kids arent going to be turned gay.
just the same as muslim americans must tolerate christian americans and jewish americans must tolerate muslim americans and so on this is just another group that needs such attention.because with out it (wich has been the case) a demonization complete with action has resulted.

you get the religious right to stop attacking gays, and no tolerance preaching would be required.just like we dont have to teach our kids to tolerate those with green eyes, cuz they arent being demonized on that basis.leave the gays alone and you wont here shifrom them.

it isnt as if a gay agenda exists aside from "stop fucking with us".they have no power grab, or economic interest that run counter to anyone elses.they pose literaly zero threat to anything.they just want to not be fucked with.if the right can accomidate, its done.you never have to hear about it again.look at civil rights as the historical analogy.no more black agenda, no more black anything, we are one.

well yes it is my opinion, but it is backed by a proper dictionary definition...a·nom·a·ly
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–noun, plural -lies.
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a deviation from the common rule, type, arrangement, or form.

but chics with dicks would be an even bigger anomaly

then asians make arabs an anomoly.shit as jews we are just an anomly if you want to expand the scope of what "common rule" means.

according to your broadening of common rule,type,arrangement, or form, makes us inatural.i have to say i disagree.i cant speak for you, but im all organic.

depends on whether you eat kosher or not

lol i do, but completely by accident

well since i fear no one that award wouldnt really apply

good point. but is it natural for a chimpaze to ride a bike?

being against gay marriage doesnt automatically make one homophobic. there are plenty of gays that feel the whole marriage proposal (no pun intended) thing is ridiculous pushed by the hard left in their ranks, and are happy just living together

Just because there are a percentage of "gays" who don't plan on getting legally married through the state doesn't mean legal marriage isn't a right everyone should have, regardless of which consenting adult they are getting married to.

Being against gay marriage may not mean you're homophobic, but it certainly can mean you are an ignorant, narrow-minded fool that spends too much time messing around in other peoples' lives rather than improving their own, perhaps by way of reading a f***ing law book every now and then, since this entire debate is about CIVIL marriage, despite what the ill-informed, bible-thumping, Knights of Columbus throw-backs may spew.

By the way, this thread is nothing more than a lazy attempt to incite people to rage post.
Good job, but I'm voting it down anyway.

and even more who dont want to be denied hospital access to the most important person in thier life.
if ever some one tried to keep me from visiting my wife in a hospital, blood would be on the evening news.

no doubt, and very observant of you.

more and more hospitals are relaxing those restrictions. its not really a political issue

Yes and there are plenty of heteros who think that whole marrige thing is bogus, shall we take that right away from you too? Thats it, thats the solution just ban marriage all together.

wow, you figured me out. but actually my intent was not to incite rage but to create dialog on a very topical and current event affecting many lives. sorry youre such an angry guy and are unable to offer up reasonable commentary without becoming overly emotional in your diatribe. btw, i am far from lazy. peace

not just suggesting but commiting it to fact. many gays are pretty damn happy living the life they currently have and think this whole marriage thing is a joke. over all they actually have it pretty good here in the u.s.

ditto

no actualy hospital policy has not changed on this.family only has been and still is the rule.

ive been married for 8 yrs or so now, and i love my wife, but im ok with that.i would be willing to give up marraige as a matter of solidarity, but i wonder if she feels the same what kind of crazy i would read into that.

Im glad you think that way...the world is much much better.

however, what will happens if your child happens to be gay...will you still want it for him/her to get married???
Have unsafe sex on the public parks, or adult book stores, then go to back to their spouses and lie about .......thats why we have so many problems here oppression/suppression one day either the person will come out and or will get HIV so then what happens?

You can dress the monkey with silk and hight-heels, but still will be a monkey!!!

You CAN'T dictate what your child will do or be......

no doubt the divorce rate sucks. too many people getting married for the wrong reasons. promiscuity and unfaithfulness is also extremely rampant in the homosexual community.

Gay people are monkeys to you?

except for the sometimes overly exaggerated effininate mannerisms, the inclination to be drama queens and the preference for same sex sleeping partners, i would agree.

really? based on what? that there is what we a sterotype.

Hey I am only ultra fabulous part of the time, and not all gays are drama queens, just some of them and youll find they iritate the rest of us.

and i appreciate your part time and respect you. even though we dont always agree you at least generally think things through. which is more than most on here do

just today. my team at work was talking about a bowling "team build" and the gay guy on the team--who normally doesn't act "stereotypically", said he really wanted to dress up in an Olivia Newton John.

the problem with many stereotypes, is that there is a very real element of truth to them.

but I still like the guy.

nice!... i can always count on you hombre for expressive comments. ain't it grand that we live in a country that still allows freedom of expression even when folks disagree? just think how boring and oppressive the world would be if everyone thought like you, diversity rulz!

what minority? the "straight" minority? the vast majority of people are straight, probably 90%.

the "conservative" minority? around 45% of Americans self classify as conservative. about 20% self classify as liberal, That leaves 40% who are neither. The vast majority of us are not LIBERAL.

go back to your circle jerk and keep telling yourself "we are the majority" but that won't make it so.

no i dont think being gay is like being black or latino, of course if one is a gay black or latino than possibly there might be a slight connection. you talking education or re-education? most folks are familiar with gay antics and although most tolerate, acceptance is an area you cant push on people who find the lifestyle not to their liking. most of the sodomy and killing because of ones sexual orientation will be found in muslim countries. sure it happens here and is reprehensible but isnt as common as some might think. and no doubt we are all feeling, thinking, breathing human beings but other than biologically we are all far from being the same.

Well you can dress up anyway you like it the fact is that we have a big problem when is comes to discrimination....When I said that I was like being "Latin and or black", was a metaphor and or how to relate to the "gay" issue...

If you're not "Gay" you'll never understand them at all....having say such..
The above issue is about been respected and treated as equal.

i dont need to understand, my feelings are that people are free to go about their lives and what happens behind closed doors isnt my affair as long as no one is hurt and children arent involved. it really isnt necessary or important that i understand things that dont interest me or that i find distasteful. although discrimination exists, it isnt as prevalent as certain leaders who make a living perpetuating it make it out to be. there is big money to be made by racism alarmists.

"there is big money to be made by racism alarmists.'

and by its deniers Glen Beck, Rush Linburgercheeze, the tea party

ahhh you forgot to include me, now i feel let down

see you are after attention congo

look what i can do

Yup just a little of the Sicilian Mafioso coming out there in Mr. Palidino when he got angry....You won't like him when he's real angry!!!!! Talkin fuckin Midevil Here!

sounds like a good governor type then