Florida radio station discovers the limits of free speech in America

The only people who listen to radio anymore are the rural poor- that is why they have become conservative talk stations.

The rest of us plug our iPods into the car stereo.

"and I agree, even Hitler should be allowed to voice his opinions, no matter how vile they may be."

NO! NO! He should not! I would shed blood to make that one be silenced.

Who is to say what should be acceptable speech and what isn't? Where do you draw the line? One day, people are unhappy about hearing about gay rights--it gets censored. The next day, people are unhappy about Christianity--it gets censored.

Are you going to be the judge of what is acceptable and what isn't? If you aren't, then are you comfortable with someone else telling you what to say?

In the wonderful USA, we have a thing called "The First Amendment". Here's a link to a description of it to help you understand what it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#F...

If Hitler were alive and well today, he is more than welcome to voice his opinion.

^'d

All this violence is puzzling
Maybe the law should intervene
All this violence is threatening
Hate is in need of censoring

Ban hate and violence
For our convenience

Ban hate and violence
For our convenience

Don’t we all know the dangers
Of two conflicting viewpoints?

An active trouble may go
Fanning the flame of dissent

So much aggravation!

(Stop them, stop them! Ban them, ban them!)

To all haters: we’ll create some laws to stop you
You’re the danger, you really shouldn’t be allowed to

They piss on morality
They detest humanity
Those savages should be banned
They’re so deeply offensive
Somebody shut them up!

(Bull shit, bull shit! Damn it, damn it)

War can’t help it
They’ll still be full of hate and shit
But it’s handy
We’ll blame it on human nature

They piss on morality
They detest humanity
Those savages should be banned
They’re so deeply offensive

Somebody shut them up!

(Stop them, stop them! Ban them, ban them!)

We’ll censor the hell out of you
We’ll coerce evil out of you
We’ll cut your tongue if we have to
You’re the baddies and we hate you

We’ll censor the hell out of you
We’ll coerce evil out of you
We’ll cut your tongue if we have to
You’re the baddies and we hate you

The power isn't within the speech; it's from my interpretation. Hitler should be able to speak. But that doesn't mean I have to listen to what he says; nor does it doesn't mean I have to fall victim to his rhetoric.

Let the people judge for themselves.

No he is not and I would personally do time to see him silenced ,...I draw the LINE at Hitler thank you very much

BS some people deserve to die thats just the way it is neither he no I need or want your or society's aproval for this.

hombre76 I'm just going to play devil's advocate here for a second, not because I'm a supporter of Hitler or any such nonsense, but I'm rather curious to know exactly what Hitler said that offended you so deeply.

I mean we all know that he was responsible for the death of milions and all, but I'm curious what his offensive speech was, just for the record.

Okay, what about all the KKK members that spit his rhetoric?

yes and I "protest" the KKK the same way I would with Nazis.....with a crowbar to the head and a swiftkick out of my town.

Every word he uttered that helped his countrymen and others to justify their barbaric murder of those they deemed inferior to them.

Oh, okay. So, you want to hurt/murder people you don't agree with. I do hope you're not in any position of power. And, if you ever run for some position in office, remind me not to vote for you. =)

I wondering if you were stupid. After reading your posts you have removed all doubt.

I think religeons could be helpful, but the ditch their in now, with preists raping deaf boys and then the pope blightenly covering it up with that "You didn't see anything" magic trick. Its almost scary, since when is religeon above the law? Since when can christians decide gays can't get married even by the state? I agree that religeon is stoping progression.

"Seriously people, pull your collective heads out of the kool aid bowl, turn off the TV, disconnect from prision planet and think for yourselves just once in your life."

Uhhh...I don't see any prison planet in this thread, and I think we are all thinking for ourselves here.

The problem is that a small. hostile in-group has decided that THEY will do our thinking for us by DEMANDING, yes that is what they demanded that the radio station change their policy based on their dictates.

These are exactly the same kind of tactics for supression of free speech under the Communist rule in Russia. At least back then it was the government who dictated these rule; these groups think that they are the government.

1) I bring up prision planet because it was the most well known conspiricy site that screams "free speech violation" every time somebody tells them they're too crazy to interview on their show.

2) and customers demanding a product that they want to listion to/ support?!?!?! the unamerican-ness of it! how dare they make their opinions heard and refuse to support something they disagree with!

3) and how dare a radio station in a CAPITALIST country take the path that would bring them the most profits! I mean come on, don't they know that when they run a bussiness its better to take a moral stand instead of a monetary stand?

4) This situation has n relationship at all to communist russia other than you trying to connect them.

please note the massive amount of sarcasim I used throughout my response.

For the second time, this wasn't a "free speech violation" as you are claiming. This is a radio station discovering the limits of free speech in America. They have discovered what they are allowed to what can and cannot be said based on the dictates of a small, hostile in-group.

So if you scream "free speech violation" it's a conspiracy "theory?" Hey look, it's not a conspiracy theory anymore; the fact that these groups don't want anything said that THEY don't agree with. Everything that these kinds of groups do is all out in the open.

There is obviously one topic that is off the table for discussion, and I don't know what that topic is because the Jewish Federation of Sarasota Manetee has DEMANDED that the radio station remove that podcast.

how is it a limit? there's no one saying you can't say that, just somebody saying you can't say that on our medium go get your own.

and no, not every call of free speech violation/limit is a conspiracy theory. BUT the sheer amount of people falsely crying about free speech violations/limits has made it harder for honest free speech violations/limits to come to national attention. kind of like the tea party. there are honest, non-insane reasons to not agree with some of President Obama's policies, but any objection a sane person makes is lost in the storm of insane peoples complaints and honest discussion is lost.

they can demand all day, thats their free speech right. to say that they can't complain is your free speech right, but this in no way high lights a free speech issue. It can highlight a money issue (the radio station deciding if there's more profits to be had taking a stand or agreeing with them) or it can highlight the organizational and trade powers of religious groups. but free speech is not one of the problems or ideas it can highlight.

word.

i see i have a negative vote troll lurking. oh well.

The thread says "discovers the limitations of free speech" I never said it was a violation of free speech. However, in the recorded broadcast, the host says "there goes a part of your free speech."

The radio host is upset with the group's intimidation, harrassment and outrageous demands so much that he is probably going to proceed with legal action against them. He is also upset because if it wasn't for this group and their harrassment and intimidation that they would not have had to change their open debate policy.

Sure the execs caved into 3rd world threats and intimidation from a hostile anti-free speech group, that's the whole point of this post

The problem is that these "civil rights" advocacy groups are defining what the definition of "hate speech" is based on what they determine it is, and then everyone else are forced to play along with their twisted definitions.

"Hate speech" as defined by these Jewish advocacy groups didn't even exist before the 1970's until the Anti-Defamation League invented the term and then proposed their own definition and solutions. This is an easily confirmed but little known fact and I suggest you go look it up.

No, that is not what I am saying at all. Anti-free speech advocates shouldn't be able to dictate to a radio station as to what their policies should be.

The radio station originally defended the statements made on the broadcast in question as per their open debate policy, but they folded to the relentless pressure from the anti-American, anti-free speech advocates.

And how are they "anti-American, anti-free speech advocates"?

Did they try to impose legislation to get the government to silence the man?
No?
Then they are not against free speech, they are expressing their own right to free speech.

And in THEIR speech, did they say or do anything against the United States?
No?
Then they are not anti-American.

So some people did not like what the anti-Semite nutjob said, so they exercised their rights as American citizens and told the radio station, and the station exercised their right to editorial control over the content they broadcast.

What's wrong with that?

No they weren't expressing their right to free speech, they were execising the assumed right to force a radio station bow to their will through harrassment, intimidation and no doubt threats to have people fired if the station didn't obey what they demanded they do, as other groups of this ilk have done so in the past.

I hope the ****** Federation enjoy their meeting with the radio host's lawyers for dragging his name through the mud.

Groups like these are on the forefront of promoting anti-free speech legislation and there are countless versions of these groups that work together as one big gang. They are extortionists.

So, you take what they did- entirely within their rights to do- and twist it because you did not like WHAT they did.

Or who they are.

So then- you have never in your life participated in a boycott?

No, I do not like their tactics of slander, and their threats and intimidation and their proposed advocatation of free speech while at the same time trying to deny others of their free speech.

This type of gangsterism and cowardly behaviour must be exposed.

I hope this group gets their asses sued into oblivion so that they will go out of the extortion business and never be able to harrass, intimidate and threaten anyone ever again.

If this hostile in-group was an advocate of free speech then they should schedule a time slot on this program so that they can refute whatever claims that the caller made, but they will never do this because it's likely that they cannot refute whatever it was that was said and that would rather work behind the scenes with 3rd world extortion tactics.

I don't know what the original caller said, but in my experience when these groups gang up on someone like this, they cannot refute the facts or even rationally debate the issues.